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CHILD KILLER VOWS: I DIDN’T TAKE MADELEINE MCCANN

Post by Guest on 26.02.12 10:08

CHILD KILLER VOWS: I DIDN’T TAKE MADELEINE MCCANN


Sunday February 26,2012


By James Murray


A PREDATORY German paedophile who will be sentenced tomorrow for abducting and murdering three boys has denied he is behind other child crimes, including the abduction of Madeleine McCann.

Today we can reveal that Scotland Yard has been in contact with German detectives questioning Martin Ney, 41.

It follows our disclosure last May that Ney looks very like the photofit of a man seen acting suspiciously hours before Madeleine vanished from a holiday apartment in Portugal in May 2007.

The photofit was drawn up by a woman who saw a man leaving the rear of the next-door apartment. She said he very “quietly” closed the gate and looked around nervously to see if he was being watched. The photofit was published in Kate McCann’s best-selling book, Madeleine.

When we asked the Yard why officers were interested in Ney, it issued a terse statement saying: “We are not prepared to discuss it.”

Ney, who faces life in prison, claims he is not guilty of a series of other child ­murders across Europe. According to the Spanish newspaper El Mundo, he would be familiar with the Algarve coastline having travelled to Portugal in the mid-Nineties.


British detectives are believed to be interested in Ney’s communications in internet chat rooms in which he used the nickname Gerd X. Although Ney claims his last child murder was in 2002, they found a posting by him in March last year which said: “Gerd X moves on to the next boy.”

In a 2002 posting he bragged: “I bought a camouflage suit to jump out of the bushes in children’s playgrounds if a beautiful boy goes past.”

The softly spoken youth worker was free to kill for 20 years. His first victim was Stefan Jahrd, 13, in 1992. Three years later he murdered Dennis Rostel, eight. Six years after that he snatched nine-year-old Dennis Kleinfrom.

Kai Thomas Breas, spokesman for the German prosecutors, told the Sunday Express: “He has said he hasn’t killed in Portugal.

“German police have been in contact with Scotland Yard. We think he had a sexual interest only in boys.”

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/304470/Child-killer-vows-I-didn-t-take-Madeleine-McCann

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Post by Guest on 26.02.12 10:15

“German police have been in contact with Scotland Yard. We think he had a sexual interest only in boys.”

Says it all really!

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Post by T4two on 26.02.12 10:20

If it wasn't so sick it would be hilarious. Message for James Murray, "If you can't do better than that ... shutup "

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Post by rainbow-fairy on 26.02.12 11:01

Well said, T4two!
Frankly, I am appalled that Madeleine's name has even been linked with this man. God, Team McCann must be desperate!
I've done a lot of research into paedophiles through my work here. It seems they fall into three categories - GA (girl-attractedd) BA (boy-attracted) and MA (minor-attracted - non-gender specific). I would put all the money I own (which isn't much, truthfully) that Martin Ney falls into the last second category - boy-attracted - kinda rules out Madeleine!
His list of victims, if not indicative itself, becomes so when you add his own sick admission to the mix - “Gerd X moves on to the next boy.”

In a 2002 posting he bragged: “I bought a camouflage suit to jump out of the bushes in children’s playgrounds if a beautiful boy goes past.”
The clue, I think, is in the word 'boy'!
I hope this is just Team McCann spin. If true, and the Yard can't do better than this, perhaps they could give me the 3.5+m review money, because I'd have a better chance of wrapping it up than them...

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Post by tigger on 26.02.12 11:05

Well RB, I'd love to give you the remit and you'd have money left over for a children's charity of your choice!

TM must be getting desperate: worth having a look at the PM sent to PeterMac by the Olive Press (topic here we go again).

So Olive Press, German news item, Gypsies and paedophiles - they will need a lot more than that to bury bad news.
What's next : revelations in the Much Dithering in the Wold weekly?

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Post by rainbow-fairy on 26.02.12 11:41

@tigger wrote:Well RB, I'd love to give you the remit and you'd have money left over for a children's charity of your choice!

TM must be getting desperate: worth having a look at the PM sent to PeterMac by the Olive Press (topic here we go again).

So Olive Press, German news item, Gypsies and paedophiles - they will need a lot more than that to bury bad news.
What's next : revelations in the Much Dithering in the Wold weekly?
Wow, I'd love the remit and the money - I'd have plenty left over that's for sure... Certainly wouldn't be hounding German paedophiles who don't even like girls! Duh...
To put this into perspective. Do ANY of these 'journalists' realise how ridiculous the stories they are printing actually are? Just to illustrate. I read this story out to my twelve year old, I'd only got as far 'abducting and murdering three boys' before he jumped in! Saying 'I very much doubt he would've gone for Maddie then'. He's twelve and dyslexic fgs, but even he can see this is ridiculous...

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Post by PeterMac on 26.02.12 12:00

This all smacks of something going on in the background and about to be revealed.
TM - v - TB is not being reported so it can't be that.

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Post by Gillyspot on 26.02.12 12:39

candyfloss wrote:[
When we asked the Yard why officers were interested in Ney, it issued a terse statement saying: “We are not prepared to discuss it.”


If the newspaper is reporting the above truthfully then SY were or are interested in this man so are looking at the abduction angle.

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Post by rainbow-fairy on 26.02.12 12:42

@PeterMac wrote:This all smacks of something going on in the background and about to be revealed.
TM - v - TB is not being reported so it can't be that.
Absolutely agree, PeterMac... Follows the pattern doesn't it?
Yes, I believe something is afoot...

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Post by tigger on 26.02.12 12:55

@rainbow-fairy wrote:
@PeterMac wrote:This all smacks of something going on in the background and about to be revealed.
TM - v - TB is not being reported so it can't be that.
Absolutely agree, PeterMac... Follows the pattern doesn't it?
Yes, I believe something is afoot...

So far we've got the Olive Press, the Daily Star, the Sunday Express - a front page today with the German.
As the one is so long ago and the German killed all his victims - are they going to concede Madeleine is probably dead? Convert the Fund altogether to: think about what they can do if it is at all feasible and if there is enough money left in the fund and if not we will need more because we might possibly find a way to help other children?

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Post by rainbow-fairy on 26.02.12 13:09

@Gillyspot wrote:
candyfloss wrote:[
When we asked the Yard why officers were interested in Ney, it issued a terse statement saying: “We are not prepared to discuss it.”


If the newspaper is reporting the above truthfully then SY were or are interested in this man so are looking at the abduction angle.
I really don't think this is truthful or accurate reporting. Are we really expected to believe that the Met, with their reputations, are really linking a boy-loving paedophile with Maddies disappearance? I can certainly believe they are following all angles (after all, they would be neglectful otherwise), but I just don't believe for one minute this 'gentleman' would be considered a likely candidate. It'd be like arresting a CND member for selling nuclear bombs. Serial murderers, paedophile or not, generally stick to a type of victim. There seems to be no indications that Martin Ney was into girls. Indeed, if his online boast had said '...jump out of the bushes when beautiful children go past' I might think differently, but he was VERY clear... 'Beautiful boys'
Doesn't wash with me... SY will need to do much better than this if they are going to attempt a whitewash... If a twelve year old boy can tell this is a nonsense story, I can't see many people falling for it (not even your average Sun reader! Actually, then again...)

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Post by Smokeandmirrors on 26.02.12 13:22

I really couldn't care less if every paedo in the world was put before a firing squad because they are subhuman scum, but I sincerely hope they aren't going to fit a known paedo up for this just to justify the expenditure or to "close" the matter. Ordinarily anything that takes one more sicko out of circulation is worth it even if you do use "dodgy" means. This is one case I wouldn't like to see this happening, if nothing else I really think the public deserve better than all the b-s sinking without a trace, I still think Team Mc need to be held account for some of their actions, regardless of the official outcome.

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Post by rainbow-fairy on 26.02.12 13:51

@Smokeandmirrors wrote:I really couldn't care less if every paedo in the world was put before a firing squad because they are subhuman scum, but I sincerely hope they aren't going to fit a known paedo up for this just to justify the expenditure or to "close" the matter. Ordinarily anything that takes one more sicko out of circulation is worth it even if you do use "dodgy" means. This is one case I wouldn't like to see this happening, if nothing else I really think the public deserve better than all the b-s sinking without a trace, I still think Team Mc need to be held account for some of their actions, regardless of the official outcome.
Absolutely, Smokeandmirrors. I'm working on putting up a new topic a little later today. All I'll say for now is, some of the things I've discovered have made me sick to the stomach.
I so agree though about fitting up paedophiles. It would be an absolute insult to Maddies memory to hang her demise on someone already serving time for paedophilia/murder. This will not help anyone, the actual culprit needs to be apprehended. I've always thought Team McCann would love the case to be put at the door of Raymond Hewlett. Perfect target - dead - so can't defend himself. No, Maddie deserves the TRUTH. Maddie deserves JUSTICE.
Kate and Gerry McCann deserve - all they get, frankly. They deserve never a peaceful day or night. Whichever way events happened in PdL, they ARE culpable. If Maddie WAS abducted by a paedophile, with all the horrors that entails, K+G are to blame as much as the kidnapper. Had they been on benefits they already would've been charged, jailed and lost the twins to Social Services. If Maddie WASN'T abducted by a paedophile, or nice lady who wanted her as her own, that opens up a whole new level of culpability. Either way, the McCanns are guilty. They haven't been found guilty, true, but they are. Abduction or no, they have broken the law and it puzzles me that they have been as good as rewarded by some quarters for acts that, if 99% of people committed them, would be charged (and rightly so)

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Post by T4two on 26.02.12 14:20

@Gillyspot wrote:
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When we asked the Yard why officers were interested in Ney, it issued a terse statement saying: “We are not prepared to discuss it.”


If the newspaper is reporting the above truthfully then SY were or are interested in this man so are looking at the abduction angle.

Since when did newspapers or any of the other UK media care about reporting truthfully? Aren't they all just pushing their own agenda? - the truth seems to be of secondary importance or even of no interest whatsoever. So, what agenda is the Express following with James Murray? IMO this 'story' is just that, a 'story', a complete fabrication which has been tacked together to allow them to print their almost traditional Sunday 'Maddy story', because it's either do that, or put in a freebie to keep circulation figures up. The second part of the agenda is to continue their tactic of provocation of Scotland Yard in the hope that someone somewhere will issue a denunciation from which they can glean some kind of information about what is going on. Fact is that nobody has the faintest idea what Scotland Yard are doing and true to form Scotland Yard are saying nothing. That is why I take the bit about Scotland Yard issuing a terse statement etc with a bucket load of salt. It isn't actually a lie - if you or I were to call Scotland Yard and ask them what they are up to, the answer would no doubt be the same - but I do not think for one second that it was said in connection with Ney.

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Post by Guest on 26.02.12 19:04

candyfloss wrote:

It follows our disclosure last May that Ney looks very like the photofit of a man seen acting suspiciously hours before Madeleine vanished from a holiday apartment in Portugal in May 2007.

The photofit was drawn up by a woman who saw a man leaving the rear of the next-door apartment. She said he very “quietly” closed the gate and looked around nervously to see if he was being watched. The photofit was published in Kate McCann’s best-selling book, Madeleine.


This reads like yet another non-story being spun by we-can-guess-who for reasons which will probably become clear.. ie. there is something else going on and this is an attempt at misdirection.

I found the comment about the man seen quietly closing the gate interesting- that seems like it is a reference to carol Tranmer's statement.

As far as I know Carol's photofit was never made public as she disputed that the one she was shown in the rogatory interview wasn't the one she gave to the mysterious policeman from Reading who visited her to get her description and construct a photofit.

So what photofit is in kate's bewk and which one is it - the wrong one with the sunglasses that Carol Tranmer says wasn't hers?

This is Tasmin Silence's photofit which the police seemed to think was Carol's as well...


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Post by Invinoveritas on 27.02.12 18:07

just for information this is the verdict from the German court:

Vor Martin N., der es über fast zwei Jahrzehnte hinweg als "Maskenmann" zu schrecklicher Berühmtheit brachte, liegt nun eine unabsehbar lange Zeit, die er hinter Gittern wird verbringen müssen. Dass er jemals wieder in Freiheit gelangt, ist zwar nicht ganz ausgeschlossen, aus heutiger Sicht allerdings unwahrscheinlich.

to cut it short, he was convicted of having abducted, sexually abused and murdered three young boys and also having sexually abused other boys, he has been given a life long sentence after which he will be evaluated every year or so as to whether he can be released back into society, he only went after boys and not girls as some of the UK Tabloids would like us to believe

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Post by rainbow-fairy on 27.02.12 19:44

@Invinoveritas wrote:just for information this is the verdict from the German court:

Vor Martin N., der es über fast zwei Jahrzehnte hinweg als "Maskenmann" zu schrecklicher Berühmtheit brachte, liegt nun eine unabsehbar lange Zeit, die er hinter Gittern wird verbringen müssen. Dass er jemals wieder in Freiheit gelangt, ist zwar nicht ganz ausgeschlossen, aus heutiger Sicht allerdings unwahrscheinlich.

to cut it short, he was convicted of having abducted, sexually abused and murdered three young boys and also having sexually abused other boys, he has been given a life long sentence after which he will be evaluated every year or so as to whether he can be released back into society, he only went after boys and not girls as some of the UK Tabloids would like us to believe
Thank you Invinoveritas, just as I thought - into boys and about as likely to be Maddies abductor as one of my young sons! Ie, no chance - how gullible do our papers think we are, for goodness sake???

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