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There is a Little Girl Missing

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Re: There is a Little Girl Missing

Post by bunny on Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:51 pm

They had to do their own flyers because the PJ would not release a photofit.
What difference does it make what photo they used? They probably were not even aware of that photo in the heat of the moment.

And why "so called" last photo? what evidence or links do you have to make you believe it wasnt the last photo?

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Re: There is a Little Girl Missing

Post by Autumn on Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:04 pm

why did they choose to use a photo of Madeleine for a poster, aged 2 - why not use a recent photo from Kate's camera ?

Very interesting articles about the 'last photo'

Mccanfiles - http://www.mccannfiles.com/id280.html

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Re: There is a Little Girl Missing

Post by aliberte2 on Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:18 pm

@Autumn wrote:I would have told the truth.

The so-called 'last photo' was not released to the public until 3 wks after her disappearance, following Gerry's return from the UK. How is that the PJ's fault?

And if you were telling the truth?

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Re: There is a Little Girl Missing

Post by aliberte2 on Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:19 pm

@Autumn wrote:why did they choose to use a photo of Madeleine for a poster, aged 2 - why not use a recent photo from Kate's camera ?

Very interesting articles about the 'last photo'

Mccanfiles - http://www.mccannfiles.com/id280.html

Because it is a better photo of her face and eye defect?

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Re: There is a Little Girl Missing

Post by Autumn on Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:20 am

Oh yes, the eye defect that the PJ warned the McCanns not to mention incase it put Madeleine at risk.

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Re: There is a Little Girl Missing

Post by aliberte2 on Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:34 am

@Autumn wrote:Oh yes, the eye defect that the PJ warned the McCanns not to mention incase it put Madeleine at risk.

She Was Already in the Arms of an Abductor; Far More Important to Spread Whatever Readily Identifable marks necessary to Identify Her.
Perhaps if the PJ had Done their Job to Spread the Picture to Begin with the McCanns Wouldn't Have Done it on Their Own.
Again, you Don't Believe She was Abducted so the Eye Defect Doesn't matter.

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Re: There is a Little Girl Missing

Post by Cath on Tue Feb 16, 2010 8:28 am

The eye defect the PJ itself published on their website of missing persons (and photo). Including a birth mark that's not been mentioned by the McCanns.

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Re: There is a Little Girl Missing

Post by Autumn on Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:00 am

@aliberte2 wrote:
@Autumn wrote:Oh yes, the eye defect that the PJ warned the McCanns not to mention incase it put Madeleine at risk.

She Was Already in the Arms of an Abductor; Far More Important to Spread Whatever Readily Identifable marks necessary to Identify Her.
Perhaps if the PJ had Done their Job to Spread the Picture to Begin with the McCanns Wouldn't Have Done it on Their Own.
Again, you Don't Believe She was Abducted so the Eye Defect Doesn't matter.

What evidence do you have to back up your belief that 'she was already in the arms of an abductor'?

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Re: There is a Little Girl Missing

Post by Cath on Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:16 am

Simple Autumn.
Either she's died at the apartment in which case telling about the eye deflect couldn't do any harm, or she was in the hands of an abductor in which case spreading her description would be of the utmost importance.

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Re: There is a Little Girl Missing

Post by Autumn on Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:32 am

It is not absolutely certain that she had an eye defect - again, this may have been a ruse to make her a more marketable product. As the LP refused the PJ's request for Maddie's medical records, the columba could not be verified.

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Re: There is a Little Girl Missing

Post by vaguely1 on Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:37 am

@Autumn wrote:It is not absolutely certain that she had an eye defect - again, this may have been a ruse to make her a more marketable product. As the LP refused the PJ's request for Maddie's medical records, the columba could not be verified.

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Re: There is a Little Girl Missing

Post by Cath on Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:46 am

@Autumn wrote:It is not absolutely certain that she had an eye defect - again, this may have been a ruse to make her a more marketable product. As the LP refused the PJ's request for Maddie's medical records, the columba could not be verified.

Funny first you're complaining they've told people about the eye defect.
Now you're telling it's not certain she had an eye defect?
Wouldn't anybody who really knew her have told that to the police or a newspaper?

Now when did the PJ request for Madeleine's medical records and when did LP deny that?

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Re: There is a Little Girl Missing

Post by Autumn on Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:04 pm

Inyx wrote:
@Autumn wrote:It is not absolutely certain that she had an eye defect - again, this may have been a ruse to make her a more marketable product. As the LP refused the PJ's request for Maddie's medical records, the columba could not be verified.

Funny first you're complaining they've told people about the eye defect.
Now you're telling it's not certain she had an eye defect?
Wouldn't anybody who really knew her have told that to the police or a newspaper?

Now when did the PJ request for Madeleine's medical records and when did LP deny that?

By all means check, but Im sure that the LP refused to pass on Kate, Gerry's and Maddie's medical records - they also witheld the McCanns financial details concerning their credit cards.

Apart from the McCanns' family and friends, has an independant witness come forward to verify Maddie's eye defect?

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Re: There is a Little Girl Missing

Post by jmbd on Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:06 pm

Is there a valid reason to doubt the mark in her eye?

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Re: There is a Little Girl Missing

Post by vaguely1 on Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:07 pm

@Autumn wrote:
Inyx wrote:
@Autumn wrote:It is not absolutely certain that she had an eye defect - again, this may have been a ruse to make her a more marketable product. As the LP refused the PJ's request for Maddie's medical records, the columba could not be verified.

Funny first you're complaining they've told people about the eye defect.
Now you're telling it's not certain she had an eye defect?
Wouldn't anybody who really knew her have told that to the police or a newspaper?

Now when did the PJ request for Madeleine's medical records and when did LP deny that?

By all means check, but Im sure that the LP refused to pass on Kate, Gerry's and Maddie's medical records - they also witheld the McCanns financial details concerning their credit cards.

Apart from the McCanns' family and friends, has an independant witness come forward to verify Maddie's eye defect?

There are photographs of her eye which independently corroborate its existence. It's not like a major physical deformity - she wasn't missing a limb or anything. Why would people come forward to say "Oh yes, she had that fleck in her eye" when the police already know about it?

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Re: There is a Little Girl Missing

Post by jmbd on Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:10 pm

Photo shopped.

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Re: There is a Little Girl Missing

Post by Autumn on Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:13 pm

Hmmmmm but then again, there are photos that do not show the eye defect - there was a photo in a newspaper that carried a photo of Maddie, complete with eye defect, except it was in the wrong eye!
Im not sure what to make of it but not totally convinced that she had an eye defect.

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Re: There is a Little Girl Missing

Post by vaguely1 on Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:15 pm

@Autumn wrote:Hmmmmm but then again, there are photos that do not show the eye defect - there was a photo in a newspaper that carried a photo of Maddie, complete with eye defect, except it was in the wrong eye!
Im not sure what to make of it but not totally convinced that she had an eye defect.

Okay, so you would rather believe it's made up or implanted just for photographs than believe that it fitted the newspaper layout better to reverse the image?


ETA, all those black people that were whited out for advertising campaigns etc....do you think that in reality they were already white?

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Re: There is a Little Girl Missing

Post by vaguely1 on Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:17 pm

Okay. I'm going to pretend you're being serious.

So working on the basis that it doesn't exist, and that nobody who ever met her has come forward and said "Actually her eye isn't like that - her parents carry a contact lens around with them for photo opportunities"

Why make it up?

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Re: There is a Little Girl Missing

Post by jmbd on Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:41 pm

"Apart from the McCanns' family and friends, has an independant witness come forward to verify Maddie's eye defect?"

Why would anyone need to come forward to verify it? Is it newsworthy or even necessary?

Now if it was made up for marketing reasons there would be many people who could come forward and say "hold on Mccanns, I met Madeleine many times and never saw it".

Strange to put yourself in a situation to be easily proved wrong.

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Re: There is a Little Girl Missing

Post by Autumn on Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:50 pm

As I have said, I simply do not know - it has been discussed on other forums and something I have pondered on occasionally.

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Re: There is a Little Girl Missing

Post by jmbd on Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:54 pm

Well a lot of things have been discussed on other forums - most of it just plain and simply incorrect.

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Re: There is a Little Girl Missing

Post by jmbd on Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:57 pm

Making things up and inventing things back in the heady days of 2007 was a way of life to a lot of people. Some people keep repeating them, other people have moved with the times and facts that have been released.

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Re: There is a Little Girl Missing

Post by Autumn on Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:13 pm

So what, in your opinion, are the facts?

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Re: There is a Little Girl Missing

Post by jmbd on Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:17 pm

That Madeleine has a mark in her eye.

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