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Post by aquila on 25.02.12 22:16

@admin wrote:
@aquila wrote:I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post this link. If I've got it wrong please delete it Moderators.

I'm posting the link to Gerry's blogs. I think it needs to be read as a whole and not snipped (I'll put the link up in forensic linguistics for that if it's ok to do that). Look at the entry for 20 May....17 days after Madeleine went missing...and there is no evidence of any strife as their day begins when they wake up at 6.30am with them all waking up around the same time. Now if the McCanns can do that 17 DAYS after Madeleine went missing it's pretty poor bloody show that they can sue people for lack of sleep, anxiety, fear etc.

Could a moderator let me know what I'm allowed to link to from another site?

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id13.html

Mccannfiles is an excellent and trusted site and there's no problem posting a link to it here.

In fact whenever anything is posted about Maddie it is good to post a source link please.

And if you or anyone else finds a good 'Maddie site;' then it can be added to the list on this link
http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t2287-links-to-other-blogs-and-sites


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Re: TB and Amaral - how we can help?

Post by russiandoll on 26.02.12 16:37

Miraflores wrote:
A lot of children with dark haired parents start out blond but then get darker as they grow older. I think Madeleine was probably getting darker but we don't really know because most of the photos we see are her as a two-three year old rather than nearly four.

evidence from photos of the darkening hair, a lot of light brown gradually mixing in with the blonde and on the photo of her coming out of the playhouse soon after arriving in PDL, only last third of her hair is fair, roots and most of the length a lot darker, still unable to post photos sorry, but there are a few similar, the Donegal ones especially. And the famous tennis ball photo.

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Post by tigger on 26.02.12 18:58

@russiandoll wrote:Miraflores wrote:
A lot of children with dark haired parents start out blond but then get darker as they grow older. I think Madeleine was probably getting darker but we don't really know because most of the photos we see are her as a two-three year old rather than nearly four.

evidence from photos of the darkening hair, a lot of light brown gradually mixing in with the blonde and on the photo of her coming out of the playhouse soon after arriving in PDL, only last third of her hair is fair, roots and most of the length a lot darker, still unable to post photos sorry, but there are a few similar, the Donegal ones especially. And the famous tennis ball photo.

since she was wearing make up in so many photos, I wouldn't be surprised if her hair was dyed - a hair colour changing naturally isn't like growing out colouring. (last third of her hair is fair?) What do you think?

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Post by aquila on 26.02.12 21:13

@tigger wrote:
@russiandoll wrote:Miraflores wrote:
A lot of children with dark haired parents start out blond but then get darker as they grow older. I think Madeleine was probably getting darker but we don't really know because most of the photos we see are her as a two-three year old rather than nearly four.

evidence from photos of the darkening hair, a lot of light brown gradually mixing in with the blonde and on the photo of her coming out of the playhouse soon after arriving in PDL, only last third of her hair is fair, roots and most of the length a lot darker, still unable to post photos sorry, but there are a few similar, the Donegal ones especially. And the famous tennis ball photo.

since she was wearing make up in so many photos, I wouldn't be surprised if her hair was dyed - a hair colour changing naturally isn't like growing out colouring. (last third of her hair is fair?) What do you think?

don't forget that 'delightful' photograph of the crimped hair that was released for the world to see when everyone was looking for her.

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Post by Kololi on 26.02.12 21:15

Many many years ago my mum used to plait my hair overnight to get that effect.

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Post by ShuBob on 26.02.12 23:10

@Kololi wrote:Many many years ago my mum used to plait my hair overnight to get that effect.

Did she also put make-up on you and make you pose suggestively for photographs?

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Post by listener on 26.02.12 23:25

@ShuBob wrote:

Did she also put make-up on you and make you pose suggestively for photographs?

Just what kind of parents would do that - or even think about doing it! Feel kind of sick

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Post by Spaniel on 26.02.12 23:28

@Kololi wrote:Many many years ago my mum used to plait my hair overnight to get that effect.
I thought you were a male Kololi, or was your mum a modern thinking woman?

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Post by Kololi on 27.02.12 7:38

@Spaniel wrote:
@Kololi wrote:Many many years ago my mum used to plait my hair overnight to get that effect.
I thought you were a male Kololi, or was your mum a modern thinking woman?

lol!

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Post by Kololi on 27.02.12 7:50

@ShuBob wrote:
@Kololi wrote:Many many years ago my mum used to plait my hair overnight to get that effect.

Did she also put make-up on you and make you pose suggestively for photographs?

Shubob, come on be a little fair. She wasn't posing suggestively in that photo and little girls, even way back when I endured the fancy hairdo fuss, used to wear make-up for such things as dance shows. Some little girls like to be fancy.

Is the general consensus then that all children should be dressed like Oliver Twist or, here's that film again, the Boys from Brazil. Dull, uniform and with no individuality allowed? Is every modern day majorette a lady of the night waiting to happen???

My only give on this topic is that there was really no need to boast about where her new little outfit had been bought - didn't see the point of that at all - otherwise I would say reading some thoughts about this in other threads, I am damn glad I wasn't the child of some of you lot.


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Re: TB and Amaral - how we can help?

Post by tigger on 27.02.12 8:06

Hi Kololi, It isn't the hair - although I think that may be dyed - and the crimped hair photo, it's the more subtle make up she's wearing in so many shots. Either eyeliner or mascara, bit of lippy, this is in e.g. the kitchen photos, the one with the scarf, the swimming pool, the floor, the ice cream etc. etc. Far, far too many and not applied by a toddler. I wouldn't even mind the blue eyeshadow photo if she didn't look so drugged on it.
There are 'natural' photos and 'unnatural' ones. The closed lips smile is totally artificial, Maddie looks normal when she shows her little baby teeth in a wide smile.
I'm not too sold on the clothes either, several strappy dresses, the pink one in PdL with a cut to suggest a bra-like top. I haven't seen her in trousers much, which is more usual for a toddler imo. Dresses only for special occasions.
Imo she was made into a mini-me - read the topic on 'Was Kate obsessed with beautiful children?' .

Both Gerry and Kate must have been dying their hair for decades. Gerry is a natural red-head - you don't turn brown in adulthood, Kate has roots showing of a mousy brown - so I wouldn't be surprised if Maddie's hair was dyed.

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Post by aiyoyo on 27.02.12 8:19

@aquila wrote:
@tigger wrote:
@russiandoll wrote:Miraflores wrote:
A lot of children with dark haired parents start out blond but then get darker as they grow older. I think Madeleine was probably getting darker but we don't really know because most of the photos we see are her as a two-three year old rather than nearly four.

evidence from photos of the darkening hair, a lot of light brown gradually mixing in with the blonde and on the photo of her coming out of the playhouse soon after arriving in PDL, only last third of her hair is fair, roots and most of the length a lot darker, still unable to post photos sorry, but there are a few similar, the Donegal ones especially. And the famous tennis ball photo.

since she was wearing make up in so many photos, I wouldn't be surprised if her hair was dyed - a hair colour changing naturally isn't like growing out colouring. (last third of her hair is fair?) What do you think?

don't forget that 'delightful' photograph of the crimped hair that was released for the world to see when everyone was looking for her.

I dont remember a "crimped" hair photo? Can someone post it up please? Thanks in advance.

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Post by aiyoyo on 27.02.12 8:23

@tigger wrote:Hi Kololi, It isn't the hair - although I think that may be dyed - and the crimped hair photo, it's the more subtle make up she's wearing in so many shots. Either eyeliner or mascara, bit of lippy, this is in e.g. the kitchen photos, the one with the scarf, the swimming pool, the floor, the ice cream etc. etc. Far, far too many and not applied by a toddler. I wouldn't even mind the blue eyeshadow photo if she didn't look so drugged on it.
There are 'natural' photos and 'unnatural' ones. The closed lips smile is totally artificial, Maddie looks normal when she shows her little baby teeth in a wide smile.
I'm not too sold on the clothes either, several strappy dresses, the pink one in PdL with a cut to suggest a bra-like top. I haven't seen her in trousers much, which is more usual for a toddler imo. Dresses only for special occasions.
Imo she was made into a mini-me - read the topic on 'Was Kate obsessed with beautiful children?' .

Both Gerry and Kate must have been dying their hair for decades. Gerry is a natural red-head - you don't turn brown in adulthood, Kate has roots showing of a mousy brown - so I wouldn't be surprised if Maddie's hair was dyed.

That photo in question was supposedly taken at grandma's house or that is the impression I got because the journalist was given the photo by grandma allegedly. The eerie drugged like eyes freak me out. Maddie most certainly didn't look happy in that photo IMO.

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Post by Juliette on 27.02.12 8:45

@aquila wrote:
@tigger wrote:
@russiandoll wrote:Miraflores wrote:
A lot of children with dark haired parents start out blond but then get darker as they grow older. I think Madeleine was probably getting darker but we don't really know because most of the photos we see are her as a two-three year old rather than nearly four.

evidence from photos of the darkening hair, a lot of light brown gradually mixing in with the blonde and on the photo of her coming out of the playhouse soon after arriving in PDL, only last third of her hair is fair, roots and most of the length a lot darker, still unable to post photos sorry, but there are a few similar, the Donegal ones especially. And the famous tennis ball photo.

since she was wearing make up in so many photos, I wouldn't be surprised if her hair was dyed - a hair colour changing naturally isn't like growing out colouring. (last third of her hair is fair?) What do you think?

don't forget that 'delightful' photograph of the crimped hair that was released for the world to see when everyone was looking for her.





From Mccannfiles
On 06 May 2007, during a Sky News broadcast, Ian Woods said: "The McCann family also released new photographs of Maddie to help jog the memories of anyone who may have seen her.

"They were taken just a few days ago during what should have been a relaxing family holiday.

"Two of them were taken inside the apartment from which she was abducted. She was wearing white pyjamas when she was last seen."

If Ian Woods, who is rumoured to be Gerry McCanns' favourite media reporter, was in receipt of such specific information then we can only presume that the information had come from the McCann family themselves or possibly one of their holidaying friends.
After all, who else would know where the pictures had been taken?
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id280.html

Also interesting as they are the only photos said to be of Madeleine with crimped hair and what look to be hair extensions. Hair also looks hi-lighted in my opinion.




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Re: TB and Amaral - how we can help?

Post by tigger on 27.02.12 9:17

In the top one she looks ill to me, more like a teen who's had a hard night drinking than a toddler.

NO way are those photographs taken during the PdL holiday. In the first place her hair would stay crimped for weeks, this looks like a professional job, not a bit of hair plaiting . Part of her hair is still straight, you might be right about the extensions and it may have been taken whilst they were doing it?
Or more likely and quicker, the electric hair crimper.
Have you noticed the eyeliner? Once again, why?

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Post by aquila on 27.02.12 9:47

Hi Tigger, we are way off topic but let's go with it and hope a moderator puts it into the correct section.

The problem I have with the released photographs is they all show Madeleine so differently. We have the iconic trade-marked photo and then a pile of others that don't add up.

I'll get to the point. If you have a child with hair as straight as a poker and that is your child's natural hair, firstly why would you even want to crimp your child's hair? It's not normal IMO to change a 3 year old's hair. Secondly, why would that photograph be released in the search for your missing daughter?

Could it possibly be to warn people who have seen those photographs before?

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Post by Nina on 27.02.12 11:40

@aquila wrote:Hi Tigger, we are way off topic but let's go with it and hope a moderator puts it into the correct section.

The problem I have with the released photographs is they all show Madeleine so differently. We have the iconic trade-marked photo and then a pile of others that don't add up.

I'll get to the point. If you have a child with hair as straight as a poker and that is your child's natural hair, firstly why would you even want to crimp your child's hair? It's not normal IMO to change a 3 year old's hair. Secondly, why would that photograph be released in the search for your missing daughter?

Could it possibly be to warn people who have seen those photographs before?

Off topic so deleted.

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Post by Guest on 27.02.12 11:45

Could we please get back onto the topic title as this seems to have turned into another photo thread. thanks

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Post by tigger on 27.02.12 13:17

candyfloss wrote:Could we please get back onto the topic title as this seems to have turned into another photo thread. thanks
Considering I started this topic, I'm fully to blame. Logged on this morning, saw the photo posts - got onto my hobby horse without engaging brain....

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Post by Guest on 27.02.12 13:21

@tigger wrote:
candyfloss wrote:Could we please get back onto the topic title as this seems to have turned into another photo thread. thanks
Considering I started this topic, I'm fully to blame. Logged on this morning, saw the photo posts - got onto my hobby horse without engaging brain....

That's ok tigger we all do it. So easy to get sidetracked.

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