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Post by Guest 12.10.10 16:20

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Post by Guest 12.10.10 16:26

The 319 numbers come from here, these are the reference numbers associated with OC [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
The 200 numbers come from here, these are the reference numbers associated with MW [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]


If you study the pattern of the first set of OC numbers in relation to the second set of MW ones, for the first 4 pages, one follows on from the next in running order with OC reference numbers. But once the OC number sequence changes from 319 to 336, the MW reference numbers no longer follow on in sequence. Very strange. It’s almost as if page 5 to 7 has been printed from a different system?

If the PJ only released things relating to Gerry and the others, why did they allow so many other guest lists to be released? Or are some of the other guests actively involved in the same investigation?


31945 BERRY 200 63 984 list 1 1st
31946 MACKENZIE 200 64 106 list 1 2nd
31947 THORNHILL 200 64 248 list 1 3rd this then becomes a booking for HANDY
31948 OLDFIELD 200 64 293 list 1 4th
31949 OBRIEN 200 64 293 list 1 5th
31950 PAYNE 200 64 293 list 2 1st
31951 MCCANN 200 64 293 list 2 2nd
31952 MANN 200 64 857 list 2 3rd
31953 COX 200 65 354 list 2 4th
31954 HESELTON 200 65 411 list 2 5th
31955 PATEL 200 65 500 list 3 1st
31956 TOTMAN 200 65 597 list 3 2nd
31957 REAP 200 65 692 list 3 3rd
31958 IRWIN 200 65 950 list 3 4th
31959 HYND 200 65 988 list 4 1st
31960 TAYLOR 200 66 256 list 4 2nd
31961 O’DONNELL 200 66 496 list 4 3rd
31962 BURLTON 200 66 679 list 4 4th
31963 JANCZUR 200 67 104 list 4 5th
31964 CLIFFORD 200 67 546 list 5 1st

1st number sequence then changes to 336 numbers

33641 NEWMAN 200 89 781 list 5 5th
33642 EDMONDS 200 60 880 list 6 1st
33643 NAYLOR 200 70 278 list 7 1st
33644 WEINBURGER 200 69 329 list 5 4th
33645 SPERREY 200 69 982 list 6 3rd
33646 BRAIN & HURNE 200 70 053 list 6 4th
33647 THORNHILL 200 69 160 list 5 3rd
33648 FOSTER 200 89 948 list 6 2nd
33649 CARPENTER 200 69 133 list 5 2nd

List 7 missing names could be on a list 8 somewhere that’s not included in the files for;

Mills
McCormack
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Post by Guest 12.10.10 16:31

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What I also noticed about list number 5, which is the link above ending in 338, the typeface for "Ocean" Club, top left, has suddenly changed in font style compared with all the other lists. winkwink
Something very fishy there if you ask me.
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Post by Guest 13.10.10 11:42

Can anyone explain why the name "Markwarner" in the Agencia column for McCann and Naylor, would change appearance on the 5th? It looked perfectly fine on all the lists prior to that date.


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Other examples where the name Markwarner appears differently on some reports.

Mackenzie G31
1st MARKUARtwr
5th MARKwARNER

Mann 0008
1st MARKWAINIR
5th MAR)<WARNER

Handy G30
3rd M4RKWARNER

Berry G606
4th MARhWARNER

David GP03
6th MARKHARNER


Sabotage or skulduggery bomb
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Post by Guest 13.10.10 12:26

hi Stella

Next to Naylor it says owner BGK do you know who that is? Sorry if it has been mentioned, but sometimes I miss things. You may see what I'm thinking of?

















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Post by Guest 13.10.10 13:27

[quote="candyfloss"] hi Stella

Next to Naylor it says owner BGK do you know who that is? Sorry if it has been mentioned, but sometimes I miss things. You may see what I'm thinking of?

Sorry, doh got the initials the wrong way around daft blushing1 Scrub that :lol:

















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Post by Guest 13.10.10 14:32

I believe it is an abbreviation of 'booking'
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Post by Jill Havern 13.10.10 14:57

Stella wrote:McCann and Naylor

This Naylor person - would it be Dr Robert Naylor who works in the Cardiology dept at Leicester Royal Infirmary?

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Post by Guest 13.10.10 15:09

Stella wrote:I believe it is an abbreviation of 'booking'

Thanks Stella, course it is doh, I am really losing the plot. daft I took it to mean a person with those initials owned that apt, then rented it out!! Consequently, I have spent all morning on a wasted exercise, I think I need some time in a home for the bewildered blushing1
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Post by Guest 13.10.10 15:22

jkh wrote:
Stella wrote:McCann and Naylor

This Naylor person - would it be Dr Robert Naylor who works in the Cardiology dept at Leicester Royal Infirmary?

I believe so jkh, but not 100% sure. I know that Naylor is a very popular name in that part of the country, but what a coincidence eh! ?

There is another coincidence, that a Nicola Naylor had something to do with the McCann's.

Hundreds of Leicestershire villagers offer prayers for return of Madeleine
from this is Leicestershire

Another family friend Nicola Naylor, of Syston, said: "I hope she is returned home soon and is being kept safe and well. We're not giving up hope of that."
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Post by Cheshire Cat 16.10.10 18:59

I spend quite a bit of time looking at the guest lists and the name that always stands out for me is Weinberger. Paul Weinberger's presence, based on his career and expertise, leads me to suspect that a group of people were present in the Ocean Club to discuss the launch of an innovative new medical product or 'spin out' company. Perhaps Gerry McCann was there not to enjoy himself (as he stated on the airport bus) but as the inventor or co-inventor of an innovative medical product that needed the backing of venture capital and business know-how, in order to succeed. The common ground between McCann and Weinberger is in the field of diagnostics and Weinberger has business and regulatory knowledge (there is tons of material about Weinberger on the internet!).

There were also a couple of bankers present and I found an interesting snippet about Michal Janczur who was a city of London banker in May 2007 (he since seems to have set his own limited company up). The snippet is from his MySpace page. Like many he probably set this up and then forgot all about it in favour of Facebook. He had two children at the Ocean Club which would mean that the MySpace page dates from a period before the Ocean Club trip. I wonder if the meeting at the Ocean Club was a business opportunity for Michal Janczur?

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Assuming the group of Doctors and business people were there for business and not pleasure, the planned discussions / conference must have been stopped in its tracks on the weekend of 29/30 April. I guess the weekend was a time to relax a little and enjoy some golf before the work of the week ahead. If something happened to Madeleine on the weekend of 29/30 April and the meeting had to be cancelled, what were all these people told had happened? If the scenario was one of a business meeting and not a holiday does this make Brian Kennedy's presence at the Ocean Club more likely?

The big cover-up seems to be portraying the McCann's as part of a small group of Brits abroad and covering up the real reason for the larger group being at the O.C.

Once this fantasy holiday had been dreamed up it was far eaisier to tap into the psyche of ordinary folk back home in the UK.




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Post by Guest 17.10.10 11:31

There were also rumours around that they were there to try and resurrect the failed Leicester Pathways Bid so some kind of business meeting seems highly likely imo
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Post by Guest 17.10.10 12:37

I've always believed it was an event that was being protected, not the McCann's.

The forensic findings in the car confirms this imo, otherwise the men in black would have played a greater role in clearing everything up, to ensure nothing forensically was found.
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Post by Guest 17.10.10 12:44

This was first pointed out by the poster Santacoloma, so all credit goes to them for this one.

Why did the name McCann not come before all the other Mc’s on this alphabetical list?
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Post by Guest 18.10.10 15:03

Is this evidence of gremlins in the OC computer system skull or possibly something more?


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But when the report is run on the 6th, from entries made on the 5th, we now see a very different name staying in that apartment.

Dr Pawer G20 23/04/07 to 11/05/07 DONOS (report run on the 6th)
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But low and behold, when the report is run again on the 7th, from entries made on the 6th, it is back to the original name???

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Computer systems do not normally switch 2 characters into 1 all by themselves. lol4
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Post by Shibboleth 18.10.10 15:05

They do if it has been handwritten, then scanned in and OCR software used.
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Post by Guest 18.10.10 15:08

Well I think it is probably safe to say that this is down to human intervention, the question is why?
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Post by Shibboleth 18.10.10 15:28

If the typist has been reading something handwritten, and is not familiar with British names, then maybe they just misread it as Pawer. Especially if the writing was sloppy or scribbled. An l followed by an m, in a manuscript, could easily be mistaken for a w.
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Post by Guest 18.10.10 15:38

The thing is, reservation names are not written out every day, they are taken from the first booking. The system just prints everything off from the original booking, unless a booking is manually changed. It is impossible for a computer system to spew out incorrect information, such as a change of name, all of it's own accord. nah
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Post by Guest 18.10.10 15:46

I've just thought, no one over here knows how these reports work, so let me explain.

These particular lists are used by the tapas restaurant to confirm who is a guest and also used to keep a running tab of individuals expenditure for the duration of their holiday. Anything charged to the room appears on the right hand side of those reports.

This guy is booked in for 19 days, is there as a single person and does not spend a penny. thinking
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Post by Judge Mental 18.10.10 15:51

Stella wrote:I've always believed it was an event that was being protected, not the McCann's.

The forensic findings in the car confirms this imo, otherwise the men in black would have played a greater role in clearing everything up, to ensure nothing forensically was found.

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Post by Cheshire Cat 18.10.10 17:07

I have read up on the failed Pathways bid and I feel doubtful that this was the reason for the Doctors, experts and business people to have gathered at the Ocean Club at the end of April 2007.
For me, the characters present and the curtain of secrecy indicate that an important meeting was indeed scheduled for that fateful week but I am inclined to believe it was to discuss some other commercial venture. Here is one suggestion:

Paul Weinberger was present at the Ocean Club and he was at the time Director of Clinical Development at Enigma Diagnostics. Enigma has an exclusive licence from the Defence Science Technology Laboratory to manage a portfolio of patents which represent over 15 years of UK Ministry of Defence funded research.

Paul Weinberger has been involved in many projects and the RANGER project is detailed below. It was submitted to the EC in April 2007. The RANGER consortium also included the Health Protection Agency [Note: COMARE is part of HPA].

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The EC issued the following Call under the Health priority in 2007: “HEALTH-2007-2.3.3-4: Innovative point-of-care diagnostic tests for influenza. The objective is to develop and validate affordable, reliable, and rapid diagnostic tests for influenza infections with designated viruses. Research outcomes should be applicable to surveillance and early detection of an epidemic outbreak and suitable for point-of-care use in both developed and developing countries, addressing early biological markers and/or late surveillance.”

Enigma [lead partner and coordinators] decided to submit a proposal to the specified EC call as it provided an opportunity to fund the development of a clinical diagnostic system to complement its existing defence sector system. The project was called Ranger (“Rapid, robust and scalable platform technology for fully automated reference laboratory grade Polymerase Chain Reaction (PCR) based diagnostics regardless of global setting”) and was submitted to the EC in April 2007. The project was accepted for funding and received a grant of €3 million against a total project plan of €4.1 million and 24 month duration. The project started in January 2008.

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3, October 2007
ENIGMA DIAGNOSTICS ANNOUNCES A EUROPEAN COMMISSION AWARD
OF €3MILLION TO FUND THE DEVELOPMENT OF A POINT OF CARE
PLATFORM FOR THE RAPID DIAGNOSIS OF INFLUENZA INFECTIONS
A fully automated, portable solution for in-clinic and out-reach influenza testing
Porton Down, UK, Enigma Diagnostics, the life sciences company developing rapid
molecular diagnostics and detection systems, announces a €3 million award from the
European Commission Framework 7 programme to the RANGER consortium. The
award will fund the development and validation of a fully automated, low cost system for
the rapid diagnosis of influenza infections and subtypes.
The RANGER consortium, which is coordinated by Enigma Diagnostics, comprises
leading technology companies including Applied Biosystems, Sagentia, Tico Europe,
Bruhn Newtech Group, Bioplastics BV and PERA who will contribute to the development
of the instrument and assays. The consortium also includes the Health Protection
Agency, the UK’s national reference laboratory for influenza diagnostics, and the Queen
Sirikit National Institute of Child Health who will evaluate and validate the system.
The system will be based on Enigma’s proprietary and fully-automated instrumentation
technology, which integrates sample preparation with real-time polymerase chain
reaction (PCR) to detect viral RNA in a full range of clinical samples. The simple-to-use,
portable system will provide rapid results direct to medical staff in a near-patient or outreach
environment in both the developed and developing world.
By providing laboratory standard, high specificity and sensitivity PCR results in a
decentralised setting, the system will advance the diagnosis of early stage viral
infections and the surveillance of disease outbreaks.
Enigma is also separately developing real-time PCR-based diagnostics systems
targeting chlamydia, gonorrhoea and other sexually transmitted infections.
John McKinley, Chairman of Enigma Diagnostics, said: “The award of this grant and the
strength of our consortium partners is a great endorsement of Enigma’s technology. It is
also a strategically important milestone for the company as it demonstrates the utility of
our real time PCR in what is an extremely challenging area of diagnosis. We are
confident we will be able to deliver a system that rapidly and simply delivers laboratory
quality results at the point of care”
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Post by Shibboleth 18.10.10 17:34

Stella wrote:The thing is, reservation names are not written out every day, they are taken from the first booking. The system just prints everything off from the original booking, unless a booking is manually changed. It is impossible for a computer system to spew out incorrect information, such as a change of name, all of it's own accord. nah

Yes, I see your point. Why would someone go to the trouble of manually changing something that updates itself automatically? Unless they were going to change it, thought better of it, tried to change it back, but mucked it up. thinking
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Post by Guest 19.10.10 8:19

Exactly Shibboleth

Unless they were going to change it, thought better of it, tried to change it back, but mucked it up.


or, if you wanted to hide someone within a system, on any particular day. You could go in and change their name, so when someone did a search or printed stuff off on that day. Bingo !!! they exist no more.

Every system has a report that is used for an audit trail. On this report it shows every transaction that is made. If someone had asked for that report, you could find exactly who changed it and when. But I doubt the PJ ever did.
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Post by Guest 19.10.10 15:37

This is a really odd one !

The Totman’s arrived on the 28th for 7 nights and stayed in G4M
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Mrs R Totman
Mr J Totman (believed to be Dr Julian Totman, a GP in Salisbury)
Miss L Totman age 2
Mstr W Totman age 3

But there is a rather interesting comment at the foot of their booking which says;

Please note that activity list will only be showing 2nd week, but guest requires 2 weeks childcare from 28th April.

Now why would someone need 2 weeks childcare for a 1 week holiday ?

shhhh don't mention a possible private apartment laughat
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