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Post by Autumn on 09.02.10 13:55

According to Joana's site, the McCanns are getting ready to return to Portugal. Further updates, as and when they happen.

Joana Morais Blog - 9.2.2010



The session on Wednesday of the trial over the prohibition of Gonçalo Amaral's book 'Maddie, the Truth of the Lie' will consist on the final allegations, with the presence of Kate and Gerry McCann, the parents of the missing child in the Algarve, in 2007.

In the last hearing at the 7th Civil Court of Lisbon, in Palace of Justice will also be inquired two witnesses, requested by the defense of Guerra e Paz [War & Peace], the publishers of the book by the former Judiciary Police (PJ) Inspector Gonçalo Amaral which was taken temporarily from the market in September 9, 2009.

The McCann couple, who, according to a source close to the family, will travel to Lisbon at the end of Tuesdays afternoon and will return to London on Wednesday during the afternoon, fundamented the provisional measure [the injunction] for considering unsustainable Gonçalo Amaral's thesis reproduced in the book in which both are involved in the daughter's disappearance, simulated an abduction and concealed the cadaver.

The defense witnesses heard in court argumented that Gonçalo Amaral's thesis results from the investigation, and Kate and Gerry McCann, who were present at the hearings held from the 12 to the 14 of January, denied the existence of evidences of their daughters death in a statement given to journalists.

The parents of Madeleine McCann stressed that it wasn't them who were on trial, and also stated that they did not use the courts to silence Gonçalo Amaral.

Besides the former PJ officer and Guerra & Paz, there also a target in this process TVI, which broadcast the documentary based on the book, and the production company Valentim de Carvalho, who commercialized the video.

After the decision over the injunction, a ruling that might even be decided on Wednesday, the Judge Gabriela Cunha Rodrigues will schedule the main action sessions, in which the McCann family claims for the protection of rights, freedoms and guarantees.

In running procedures is another civil action against Gonçalo Amaral, with the accusation of declarations considered defamatory, in which the British couple ask for a compensation of, at least, 1,2 million euros.

This process, without a set date for trial, has also attached an injunction, being the court developing measures for the seizure Gonçalo Amaral's assets.

Kate and Gerry McCann also lodged a criminal complaint against the former PJ Inspector for alleged violation of the secrecy of justice in the reproduction of facts pertaining to the investigation in the book before the archival dispatch made by the prosecutor of Portimão, Magalhães Menezes.

The English child Madeleine McCann disappeared on May 3, 2007 from the bedroom of an apartment in a tourist resort in Praia da Luz, Algarve, when she was on holidays with the parents and two siblings.

In the status of coordinator of the PJ Criminal Investigation Department of Portimão, Gonçalo Amaral joined the team of investigators who tried to find out what happened to Madeleine.

Kate and Gerry McCann, who always maintained the position that Maddie was abducted, were made arguidos in September 2007, but were eventually acquitted in 2008 for lack of evidence. The case was archived, but may be reopened if there is consistent data.


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Post by bellatrix on 09.02.10 13:58

So much for those who said they wouldnt go back again.

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Post by Autumn on 09.02.10 14:01

Well whose to say that Gerry won't do another runner when the going gets tough? I expect good old Fiona will be on hand just incase kate needs to phone a friend.

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Post by baconbutty on 09.02.10 15:09

Isn't this a one-day conclusion to the hearing? If so, he's going to have to flounce round about lunchtime. big grin

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Post by figaro on 09.02.10 15:41

Well who is to say that Amaral won't do a runner?

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Post by vaguely1 on 09.02.10 16:03

as far as I remember they were all in and out like greased weasels for the last one.

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Post by Pascal on 09.02.10 16:17

@vaguely1 wrote:as far as I remember they were all in and out like greased weasels for the last one.

'greased weasels' :ambersuz: :ambersuz:

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Post by aiyoyo on 09.02.10 16:45

Are these 'greased weasels' going down the gutters after the hearing?

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Post by Autumn on 09.02.10 18:40

Excellent post on Joana's site - I would love to see this on a huge poster outside the Lisbon Courtroom tomorrow.

Bridget said:-

The McCanns need to understand something.

They are not victims. They are perpetrators. I don't give a monkey's left one if they claim they are innocent. They are not. No process has rendered them innocent. A process is shelved because at the moment there is insufficient evidence to guarantee a conviction. They have not been found guilty of anything, but neither have they been cleared of anything.

There is, however, such a thing as moral responsibility. I wasn't responsible for their child, you weren't, Mark Warner wasn't, nor were their friends. Whatever has happened to their child happened because of them. They can piss off with their assertions that suggesting she is dead harms the search for her. s***. And what search would that be? The one they never made because it was dark out ? The one being conducted by a detective so dense that he couldn't find his own arse if we all shouted directions ?

They may not like the fact that people point the finger at them, but it's their own fault for treating their children with such casual and callous disregard.

Neglected children aren't all tottering around council flats, with stinking nappies and a diet of turkey twizzlers. People who neglect children come in all shapes and sizes. All that separates Kate McCann from Matt Lucas' portrayal of Vicky Pollard is Kate's taste for chardonnay and the fact that Matt is clearly the more feminine of the two.

They can sue whomever they like, threaten anyone who expresses a view which displeases them, but it will never ever make them innocent. To achieve that, they would have to turn back time and spend 3rd May 2007 being parents. It's a bit late to start now. They should take their sneering self-satisfaction, and their goading ''you can't touch us - the files say we're innocent'' and piss off home, because sooner or later this charmed existence of theirs will collapse like the house of cards it so obviously is. They hate Amaral not because he isn't looking for their daughter, but because he looked at them and saw them for what they are. Arrogant, child-neglecting scum, using someone else's money to attempt to polish a turd.

clapping clapping thumbsup Brilliant, Bridget!!!!!!

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Post by vaguely1 on 09.02.10 18:44

what a vile post.

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Post by figaro on 09.02.10 19:00

It's rather base isn't it?

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Post by vaguely1 on 09.02.10 19:01

Thank you, that was exactly the word I was looking for.

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Post by Get'emGonçalo on 09.02.10 21:16

The McCann's life as they knew it will never be the same again, that's for sure.

They took blatant risks with their childrens' lives and Maddie has paid the ultimate price.

I can understand people feeling disgusted and angry about that.

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Post by marigold on 09.02.10 21:55

@Autumn wrote:Excellent post on Joana's site - I would love to see this on a huge poster outside the Lisbon Courtroom tomorrow.

Bridget said:-

The McCanns need to understand something.

They are not victims. They are perpetrators. I don't give a monkey's left one if they claim they are innocent. They are not. No process has rendered them innocent. A process is shelved because at the moment there is insufficient evidence to guarantee a conviction. They have not been found guilty of anything, but neither have they been cleared of anything.

There is, however, such a thing as moral responsibility. I wasn't responsible for their child, you weren't, Mark Warner wasn't, nor were their friends. Whatever has happened to their child happened because of them. They can piss off with their assertions that suggesting she is dead harms the search for her. s***. And what search would that be? The one they never made because it was dark out ? The one being conducted by a detective so dense that he couldn't find his own arse if we all shouted directions ?



















They may not like the fact that people point the finger at them, but it's their own fault for treating their children with such casual and callous disregard.

Neglected children aren't all tottering around council flats, with stinking nappies and a diet of turkey twizzlers. People who neglect children come in all shapes and sizes. All that separates Kate McCann from Matt Lucas' portrayal of Vicky Pollard is Kate's taste for chardonnay and the fact that Matt is clearly the more feminine of the two.

They can sue whomever they like, threaten anyone who expresses a view which displeases them, but it will never ever make them innocent. To achieve that, they would have to turn back time and spend 3rd May 2007 being parents. It's a bit late to start now. They should take their sneering self-satisfaction, and their goading ''you can't touch us - the files say we're innocent'' and piss off home, because sooner or later this charmed existence of theirs will collapse like the house of cards it so obviously is. They hate Amaral not because he isn't looking for their daughter, but because he looked at them and saw them for what they are. Arrogant, child-neglecting scum, using someone else's money to attempt to polish a turd.

clapping clapping thumbsup Brilliant, Bridget!!!!!!

Yes fantastic, to the point post. How bloody dare they tell us WE have to keep searching for Maddie when THEY can't be bothered. How dare they expect US to cough up when THEY don't contribute a penny themselves. Why don't they sell their large house in Rothley, that should raise a few bob. Of course, it would be pointless and they know that but to keep 'the business' going they pester the public with their farsical abduction story and begging bowls for more MONEY. The words BASE and VILE are perfect adjectives for this pair.

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Post by Autumn on 10.02.10 20:33

Exactly and how dare Gerry McCann tell the world that the laws of democracy are there to protect the vunerable, Madeleine and the twins are vunerable.

Yes, Gerry, they were vunerable because you left them alone and frightened while you and your equally neglectful spouse cared only about drinking with your mates.

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Post by Get'emGonçalo on 10.02.10 21:11

At least they've said they want the whole process reviewed by the police.

Looks like they've seen sense at last. Pity it took them nearly 3 years.

A step in the right direction...

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Post by marigold on 10.02.10 21:58

jkh wrote:At least they've said they want the whole process reviewed by the police.

Looks like they've seen sense at last. Pity it took them nearly 3 years.

A step in the right direction...

Yes they say that but do they mean it, I think it's empty words from them, easy to say outside the court room and touting for sympathy. The police would just come to the same conclusion and make them arguidos again. They would have to do the reconstruction and answer the questions, something they don't want to do at any cost as it would show them up for the liars they are.

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Post by marigold on 10.02.10 22:03

@Autumn wrote:Exactly and how dare Gerry McCann tell the world that the laws of democracy are there to protect the vunerable, Madeleine and the twins are vunerable.

Yes, Gerry, they were vunerable because you left them alone and frightened while you and your equally neglectful spouse cared only about drinking with your mates.

He does have such a cheek doesn't he. Spouting off about children's vulnerability after he and the other retrobate left their vulnerabale children on their own for hours on end. You would think he would be a bit embarrassed to mention children being vulnerable after his behaviour towards his own but he is so far up his own a**e that it doesn't occur to him.

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Post by Get'emGonçalo on 10.02.10 22:25

@marigold wrote:
jkh wrote:At least they've said they want the whole process reviewed by the police.

Looks like they've seen sense at last. Pity it took them nearly 3 years.

A step in the right direction...

Yes they say that but do they mean it, I think it's empty words from them, easy to say outside the court room and touting for sympathy. The police would just come to the same conclusion and make them arguidos again. They would have to do the reconstruction and answer the questions, something they don't want to do at any cost as it would show them up for the liars they are.

Course they don't mean it.

But wouldn't it be good if the PJ called their bluff and formally asked them if they wanted the case reopened? Do it, PJ, do it!

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Post by vaguely1 on 10.02.10 22:28

I truly hope that they do re-open/review the case.

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Post by Ariel on 10.02.10 23:09

@figaro wrote:It's rather base isn't it?
To say the least. Rolling Eyes

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Post by Ariel on 10.02.10 23:18

Marigold wrote,


Yes fantastic, to the point post. How bloody dare they tell us WE have to keep searching for Maddie when THEY can't be bothered. How dare they expect US to cough up when THEY don't contribute a penny themselves. Why don't they sell their large house in Rothley, that should raise a few bob. Of course, it would be pointless and they know that but to keep 'the business' going they pester the public with their farsical abduction story and begging bowls for more MONEY. The words BASE and VILE are perfect adjectives for this pair.
That house really annoys you doesn't it?

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Post by bellatrix on 10.02.10 23:35

lol!

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Post by Ruby on 11.02.10 1:31

Personally I couldn't give a monkey's if they lived in a cave, but the Daily Mail for 11th Feb will be the first issue worth reading in a very long time:

police DID say investigate Kate and Gerry McCann' after Madeleine's disappearance
By Vanessa Allen
Last updated at 11:53 PM on 10th February 2010
Comments (0) Add to My Stories Gerry McCann was made a suspect in his daughter Madeleine's disappearance after a British expert said he should be investigated for 'homicide', a Portuguese court heard yesterday.
Criminal profiler Lee Rainbow recommended that police on the Algarve investigate the doctor and his wife Kate because of 'contradictions' in his statement.
The report by Mr Rainbow, of the National Policing Improvement Agency, was sent to Portugal in June 2007, a month after the three-year-old disappeared.
Kate and Gerry McCann outside court in Lisbon yesterday. They are suing Mr Amaral for libel over his allegations that the couple faked Madeleine's death
It was dramatically produced yesterday by lawyers for a disgraced Portuguese detective whose campaign of vilification the McCanns are trying to stop.
The couple want Gonzolo Amaral to be legally barred from accusing them of being involved in Madeleine's disappearance.
The detective was sacked from the investigation after he made an outspoken attack on English police, accusing them of failing to investigate the McCanns. He has since retired from the police force.
His lawyer Antonio Cabrita, reading from a Portuguese translation of the previously- confidential report, said: 'The family is a lead that should be followed.
The McCanns want Gonzolo Amaral (pictured yesterday) to be legally barred from accusing them of being involved in Madeleine's disappearance
'The contradictions in Gerald McCann's statement might lead us to suspect a homicide. This is a lead that should be investigated.'
The lawyer added: 'Portuguese police had only considered the abduction theory. It was British police who said they must consider homicide as well.'
Mr Cabrita did not outline what ' contradictions' had been found in Mr McCann's statements and refused to give any further details after the Lisbon hearing.
Mr Rainbow, 37, leads a team of five criminal profilers at the NPIA, and specialises in sex crimes and murders.

The Home Office agency, which describes itself as 'part of the police service', aims to improve police use of information, evidence and science and to support operations.
It is understood to have provided Portuguese police with a 'checklist' of how to proceed.
A spokesman said last night: 'In disappearance cases it is common for the NPIA to advise officers to consider the possibility of the involvement of family and close friends.
'This is good practice for investigating cases. The NPIA gave similar generic advice to Portuguese police.'
Mr Rainbow, who has worked on major investigations including the Ipswich prostitute murders and the disappearance of Shannon Matthews, did not say there was any evidence the McCanns were involved.
But his confidential report appears to have been a turning point in the Portuguese investigation.
Madeleine's distraught parents were named as official suspects a few weeks later, despite Portuguese police failing to find any evidence against them.
The report by Mr Rainbow, of the National Policing Improvement Agency, was sent to Portugal in June 2007, a month after three-year-old Madeleine disappeared
Mr and Mrs McCann, both 41, listened intently as Mr Cabrita said Mr Amaral should be allowed to repeat his claims that they were involved in Madeleine's disappearance.
The 50-year-old ex-detective has alleged in a new book that she died in a 'tragic accident' and her parents faked an abduction.
Lawyers for the McCanns say he is using the book and the court case to take 'revenge' on them for the end of his career.

Mr and Mrs McCann, from Rothley, Leicestershire, are suing Mr Amaral for libel over his allegations and are seeking £1.2million in damages and compensation.
They have won an injunction which bars him from repeating his allegations but he is trying to overturn it, claiming it affects his right to freedom of speech.
The hearing ended yesterday, and the judge will give her verdict next Thursday.

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Post by vaguely1 on 11.02.10 7:20

They can produce 100 statements stating the obvious - but it's still Amaral that wrote the accusatory book when no one's been charged.

I'm gobsmacked that someone actually had to write to them to tell them to investigate the parents a month down the line.

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