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Who has Made Money out of Madeleine

Post by PeterMac on 06.02.12 12:15

Following a question posted by 'aquila', if it has not been done before we could start to list the people who are known to have made money out of Madeleine.
I do not include Police officers, who get paid whatever they are doing, or other people who would simply be doing what they normally do anyway.=
These are people who are benefitting specifically from the reported disappearance.
I shall start it off, and we can fill in the details, and reasons, as we go.

Very close
The parents
The Tapas 7
The kid who did the web site

Lawyers
Carter-Ruck
Extradition lawyers
Lawyers for the “Fund”
Auditors for the “Fund”
International lawyers


Press (have also lost some money)
Sun
Mail
Express
Olive Press
Sky
etc etc

Individuals
Mitchell
McGuiness
M3, including Jimenez Raso - now in prison
Halligen - now in prison
Edgar

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Re: Who has Made Money out of Madeleine

Post by jd on 06.02.12 12:32

Who has Suffered?

Madeleine McCann
Honest citizens of the public who care about her and the obvious truth

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Re: Who has Made Money out of Madeleine

Post by Ross on 06.02.12 12:40

@jd wrote:Who has Suffered?
Truth and integrity?

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Re: Who has Made Money out of Madeleine

Post by ufercoffy on 06.02.12 12:41

Mike Gunnill.

I can't imagine he did what he did for no fee.

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Post by Guest on 06.02.12 12:53

Agreed Ufercoffy and that also goes for all the what I call professional trolls like Sans_Souci.

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Re: Who has Made Money out of Madeleine

Post by ufercoffy on 06.02.12 12:56

Robert Murat.

Goncalo Amaral and anyone else who wrote a book about Madeleine including Steve Marsden and Rosiepops and her own mother who wrote a child porn book.

Oprah Winfrey.

Piers Morgan.

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Re: Who has Made Money out of Madeleine

Post by Daisy on 06.02.12 12:59

Who supplies all the 'find Madeleine' merchandise? I don't suppose the 'good quality wristbands', T.shirts & the rest are donated for free? So someone's making money here.

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Re: Who has Made Money out of Madeleine

Post by TheHare on 06.02.12 13:10

I suppose to be fair, you should add a bunch of authors on both sides of the divide, including Dr Amaral, his publishers, the TV company responsible for the documentary etc, Pat Brown etc.

The key point comes down to truth and integrity. Those authors didnt claim that the proceeds from their work would be used for any charitable purpose.

I remember Esther McVey making asurances that every penny donated would be spent on searching for a missing child. Likewise, Mr Mitchell assured radio listeners that they need not be worried that donations would be spent on lawyers. As the funds own accounts indicate that very little was spent on direct search activities, I would would argue that the public where misinformed, and possibly deliberately so.

I guess you could add channel 4, the producers of the original mockumentary, various actors etc. I'm sure Oprah Winfrey and Piers Morgan made a few bucks out hosting interviews etc

The commercialisation of a missing child is beyond contempt really, but I guess its a bit of a catch 22 situation. Should Dr Amaral keep silent, and give up a fight he believes in because a side effect of telling the world results in profits from the book ? What compensation is adequate for the loss of a career and reduced pension etc.

I suspect Mark William Thomas made a few bob providing his input. Its rather a long list really.

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Re: Who has Made Money out of Madeleine

Post by jd on 06.02.12 13:25

I suppose to be fair, you should add a bunch of authors on both sides of the divide, including Dr Amaral, his publishers, the TV company responsible for the documentary etc, Pat Brown etc

I don't think you can ever say Pat Brown has made money from this! They banned her book! And Amaral has had his pension and houses taken by the mccanns, and the profits he may make from his book the mccanns are claiming all of this too!! The TV company who made the documentary put the £10,000 in themselves and wasn't it under the guidance of jon corner!

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Re: Who has Made Money out of Madeleine

Post by TheHare on 06.02.12 13:35

@jd wrote:
I suppose to be fair, you should add a bunch of authors on both sides of the divide, including Dr Amaral, his publishers, the TV company responsible for the documentary etc, Pat Brown etc

I don't think you can ever say Pat Brown has made money from this!

If Pat had simply wanted to diseminate information, she could have published the ebook for free. The fact that she chose to sell it through amazon (who incidentally I no longer purchase from as a result of them withdrawing Pats book), indicates she at least hoped to make something from the sale of the book.

Its not meant as a critisism, and I fully support Dr Amarals decision to publish too.

I just think that the issue is a bit more complex than simply who made money, or who exploited a particular situation to make money

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Post by jd on 06.02.12 13:54

The fact is Pat has not made money from her book so you can't put this in the same breath as the money the mccanns have made

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Re: Who has Made Money out of Madeleine

Post by Invinoveritas on 06.02.12 17:07

let us not forget the huge marketing industry known as the Internet, who must have made millions out of all, whether pro or anti Madeleine and also the electricity companies

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Re: Who has Made Money out of Madeleine

Post by aquila on 06.02.12 18:01

Thanks PeterMac for this thread.

I can't think of anyone else to add but I'm sure there's more. Is a trademark paid for? I still don't get the point of the trademark but I'm not savvy in these things.

Anyway, what this thread shows is there are a lot of bucks being made and we still have no clear idea of what happened to Madeleine. So for all GM's strategy/jargon/business-speak it ain't helping Madeleine is it? and it probably hasn't cost the MC's very much financially (in my humble opinion of course).

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Re: Who has Made Money out of Madeleine

Post by zodiac on 01.03.12 11:34

@aquila wrote:Thanks PeterMac for this thread.

I can't think of anyone else to add but I'm sure there's more. Is a trademark paid for? I still don't get the point of the trademark but I'm not savvy in these things.

Anyway, what this thread shows is there are a lot of bucks being made and we still have no clear idea of what happened to Madeleine. So for all GM's strategy/jargon/business-speak it ain't helping Madeleine is it? and it probably hasn't cost the MC's very much financially (in my humble opinion of course).

Gained, in my humble opinion, given iirc they can use the private ltd company know as the Fund how they wish.

I was shocked when I saw this below:

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From holes in his shoes to cr-uck! Gives new meaning to: From rags to riches imo!

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Re: Who has Made Money out of Madeleine

Post by aiyoyo on 19.03.12 12:11

Let me just say that of all people, her parents should be the last people to make money out of her, yet they are the ones who made the most money of the back of her name!

The rest of them namely tapas 7, their bunch of lawyers, their publicist, PR, and newspapers, who made money out of her is incidental since they piggy backed onto the mccanns.

Her perpetrators should not profit from their crime, that is not to say her parents were her perpetrators (in case CR and mccanns are reading) but they were nonetheless suspects yet to be exonerated in a Court of Law. They should either get themselves eliminated or come clean about their Fund contributed in the main by young children and pensioners.
I term begging for money to be put in envelopes and sent to them more sinful and more evil than the selling of merchandise or suing the papers. The former is called deliberately conning the vulnerable and kind hearted young and old for their selfish end, and that is beyond evil.


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A new film about paedophiles and Madeleine Mccann

Post by Guest on 30.03.12 11:38

READY for a new film about Madeleine McCann? The List has an interview with Markus Schleinzer – writer and director of Michael:

His debut film is “based on Madeleine McCann and Josef Fritzl cases”.

Madeleine McCann went misisng. We do not know what happened to her. Josef Fritzl imprisoned and raped his children.

Schleinzer has spent 17 years in the Austrian film industry as a casting director, working for filmmakers such as Michael Haneke (The Piano Teacher, The White Ribbon), Jessica Hausner (Lovely Rita, Lourdes) and Ulrich Seidl (Dog Days). His debut feature, Michael, which he wrote and directed, was the only German-language film in competition at Cannes in 2011. Inspired by the Natascha Kampusch and Josef Fritzl cases, and the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, it observes the last five months in the relationship between a 35-year-old paedophile (Michael Fuith) and a 10-year-old boy (David Rauchenberger) whom he keeps in his locked basement.

On high-profile paedophile cases

Oh?

“When I began writing the script for Michael in late 2008, you couldn’t pick up a paper or switch on the TV, without noticing the Madeleine McCann or the Josef Fritzl cases. I was disgusted by the way the tabloid press used these stories to make money. I wanted to make a film about paedophilia which wasn’t easy to consume.”

The tabloid press, it could be argued, raised the profile of the cases. But they wer very different. Fritzl came to media attention after his crimes wer exposed. We do not know what happend to the media’s Our Maddie. Her story has been one of speculation. There is not proof paedos wer involved in her vanishing.

But, still, if her name can help your film to get noticed…

http://www.anorak.co.uk/312471/madeleine-mccann/a-new-film-about-paedophiles-and-madeleine-mccann.html/

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Whose lives have been affected?

Post by aquila on 21.05.12 16:07

I'm adding to PeterMacs topic - I hope this is ok PM.

I was wondering yesterday about all the humble people who have been affected as a result of Madeleine's disappearance. People who have suffered invasion of their privacy, people who have their right to freedom of speech threatened, people who have found themselves transferred to different jobs as a consequence of being in contact with the disappearance of Madeleine.

Mark Warner staff - moved to other places (I can somehow understand MW's decision to do that)

Priests - moved to other parishes - I have quite a lot of thoughts on this one which range from the church protecting a priest/protecting the church (a church is an employer) to why didn't the church leave the priest in situ to comfort the humble people of PDL in their time of need? The humble people who searched for Madeleine and I go round in circles.

The people of PDL who have suffered loss of income and an eerie notoriety of being known for apartment 5a.

The children who ask mummy and daddy if they are going to get snatched from their beds

There are many ordinary people who have been adversely affected. There are other not so ordinary people who have made money from it.

The search for Madeleine with all its millions, its experts and its high profile has not found Madeleine. It has however IMO affected a lot of people. That's what a trademark does.

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Post by PeterMac on 21.05.12 17:48

The Swiss man and his family hunted down in Bern on the strength of an alleged sighting 4 years ago and who had all his personal details splashed across the papers of the world, with the clear implication that he was suspected of one or more dreadful crimes for which he had to prove his innocence.

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Re: Who has Made Money out of Madeleine

Post by aquila on 21.05.12 18:08

@PeterMac wrote:The Swiss man and his family hunted down in Bern on the strength of an alleged sighting 4 years ago and who had all his personal details splashed across the papers of the world, with the clear implication that he was suspected of one or more dreadful crimes for which he had to prove his innocence.

Disgusting isn't it. A website that shows a paypal account and a telephone number to call if you have information...who'd want to do that!!!!!!!!!!!!. The most you're going to get for being an honest person is to have your gizzards picked out with a fish fork in the media and STILL the PR and legal machines go on and on with no care for how it affects the lives of ordinary people.

I hope the PR and legal folk don't choke on the bones of their sea bass. I rather doubt they will.

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Post by tigger on 21.05.12 18:26

@PeterMac wrote:The Swiss man and his family hunted down in Bern on the strength of an alleged sighting 4 years ago and who had all his personal details splashed across the papers of the world, with the clear implication that he was suspected of one or more dreadful crimes for which he had to prove his innocence.

When that was in the news I had a friend on the phone - she's average, reads DM etc. I ranted a bit about the sighting, threw some facts in the mix.
'They've almost cleared that man, haven't they?' she said. I started to explain that this man had been slandered, connected to paedophilia - there may now be a police record on this affair - etc.
But - it was in the DM - so it must be true. Even the apostles didn't have such an uphill task!

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Post by friedtomatoes on 21.05.12 18:40

The list is endless, truly unprecedented and bizarre! That the mccanns dont seem to give two hoots is telling. They seem to be fuelling it all. I have yet to see them apologise to innocent people who were caught up in this sordid saga

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Post by aquila on 21.05.12 19:22

@friedtomatoes wrote:The list is endless, truly unprecedented and bizarre! That the mccanns dont seem to give two hoots is telling. They seem to be fuelling it all. I have yet to see them apologise to innocent people who were caught up in this sordid saga

I don't happen to think the McCann's are a stand alone item. I think they've been swamped with an amazing amount of publicity that sticks in my gut.

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Post by friedtomatoes on 21.05.12 19:27

@aquila wrote:
@friedtomatoes wrote:The list is endless, truly unprecedented and bizarre! That the mccanns dont seem to give two hoots is telling. They seem to be fuelling it all. I have yet to see them apologise to innocent people who were caught up in this sordid saga

I don't happen to think the McCann's are a stand alone item. I think they've been swamped with an amazing amount of publicity that sticks in my gut.

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if u have watched the al jazeera documentary called the mccans versus the media this is true, and its the one thing that makes me quiver sometimes to the idea they were victims but on balance having read and seen everything i dont believe them

kates book was the last straw and some of the lies she wrote

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Post by aquila on 21.05.12 19:43

@friedtomatoes wrote:
@aquila wrote:
@friedtomatoes wrote:The list is endless, truly unprecedented and bizarre! That the mccanns dont seem to give two hoots is telling. They seem to be fuelling it all. I have yet to see them apologise to innocent people who were caught up in this sordid saga

I don't happen to think the McCann's are a stand alone item. I think they've been swamped with an amazing amount of publicity that sticks in my gut.

yes
if u have watched the al jazeera documentary called the mccans versus the media this is true, and its the one thing that makes me quiver sometimes to the idea they were victims but on balance having read and seen everything i dont believe them

kates book was the last straw and some of the lies she wrote

please post the link for the al jazeera documentary.

for what it's worth, I don't believe the McCanns even though I want to.

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Post by Guest on 21.05.12 19:48

I presume this is the documentary. http://mccannfiles.com/id110.html

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