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Re: *NEW!* Judge Tugendhat will hear McCanns' CONTEMPT application 10.30am Wednesday 8 February

Post  HFS on Fri Jan 27, 2012 4:16 pm

I'm sorry, I'm a bit confused here now.
This trial is about Contempt of Court, am I right about that?
And when that's done it's still possible Mr Bennett will have to go to Court for libel?

A conviction for Contempt of Court might help the McCanns/CR when they file a complaint about libel after that.
So are you, Mr Bennett, intending on fighting the Contempt of Court and wouldn't that make it more expensive for you in case you lose? (I'm thinking of you paying for CR's costs as well)

ETA I forgot to ask: is Mr Smethursts case finished now? Sorry if it's already posted, I may have missed it.

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Re: *NEW!* Judge Tugendhat will hear McCanns' CONTEMPT application 10.30am Wednesday 8 February

Post  kikoraton on Fri Jan 27, 2012 4:39 pm


"2,000 pages of Carter-Ruck's 5 Lever Arch files"
Who has been paying Adam and Isabel to compile this stuff? Does it represent the vast majority of their work?
It's an important question, because if it has cost a vast sum of money, has it come from the "Fund to find Madeleine" or have the McCanns other wealthy patrons?

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Re: *NEW!* Judge Tugendhat will hear McCanns' CONTEMPT application 10.30am Wednesday 8 February

Post  Miraflores on Fri Jan 27, 2012 4:52 pm

kikoraton wrote:
"2,000 pages of Carter-Ruck's 5 Lever Arch files"
Who has been paying Adam and Isabel to compile this stuff? Does it represent the vast majority of their work?
It's an important question, because if it has cost a vast sum of money, has it come from the "Fund to find Madeleine" or have the McCanns other wealthy patrons?


Ah, you haven't read the book. In that Kate assures us that Carter-Ruck continue to work for them behind the scenes for nothing!

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Post  Tony Bennett on Fri Jan 27, 2012 11:26 pm

HFS wrote:I'm sorry, I'm a bit confused here now. This trial is about Contempt of Court, am I right about that?

Yes, and if I can explain that, the McCanns asked me to give several Undertakings to the court not to do this and that. And I gave that series of Undertakings to the Court. The McCanns are bringing this back to Court basically because they say that a certain number of my publications over the past two years (articles and forum posts) have breached those Undertakings. If the Court decided that I have acted contemptuously, i.e. defiantly broken my Undertakings without reasonable excuse, they will punish me somehow. Their powers are mainly to imprison, to fine, and to seize assets - and to impose a costs order.

And when that's done it's still possible Mr Bennett will have to go to Court for libel?

Indeed, The McCanns could at any time thereafter sue me for libel damages as well - even if the Court has already puninshed me for contempt of Court.

A conviction for Contempt of Court might help the McCanns/CR when they file a complaint about libel after that.

Possibly. That's a legal question I can't answer.

So are you, Mr Bennett, intending on fighting the Contempt of Court and wouldn't that make it more expensive for you in case you lose? (I'm thinking of you paying for CR's costs as well).

I believe I have a valid defence to the McCanns' contempt of court application. So I will present that defence to the Court.

ETA I forgot to ask: is Mr Smethursts case finished now? Sorry if it's already posted, I may have missed it.

No. The issue of what Mr Smethurst can reasonably claim by way of costs against me is yet to be decided. There will be a further hearing about this in a few weeks' time. I have also agreed in principle, and subject to the forum-owner's agreement, to seek to remove postings by others on this forum which Mr Smethurst considers have libelled him. I have just been provided with a list of the postings to which he objects - and it is my intention over the next few days to remove all those postings as per my agreement.

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A gigantic search

Post  Tony Bennett on Fri Jan 27, 2012 11:36 pm

kikoraton wrote:"2,000 pages of Carter-Ruck's 5 Lever Arch files".

Who has been paying Adam and Isabel to compile this stuff? Does it represent the vast majority of their work?
It's an important question, because if it has cost a vast sum of money, has it come from the "Fund to Find Madeleine" - or have the McCanns other wealthy patrons?
kikoraton, you'll recall that on many occasions the McCanns have referred to how they wish to be as 'open and transparent' as possible regarding the way the Fund money is spent, the conduct of their private investigations, their search for Madeleine, who is funding them etc., etc. To fulfil those statements, a good start would be for both the McCanns and Carter-Ruck to give a full account of just who is funding this truly vast operation of:

* visiting this forum and our website, almost daily for months,

* analysing hundreds, quite possibly thousands, of posts for possible libels,

* seeking counsel's opinion on whether post 'x' or 'y' is libellous or not, or has breached an undertaking ir not,

* seeking client's instructions,

* instructing Mike Gunnill to use deception to get hold of a copy of '60 Reasons', then sending down a courier to collect a book and an incriminating envelope, and taking a statement from him,

* collating all that information,

* photocopying it,

* making up multiple bundles of Lever Arch files, all bound in Carter-Ruck livery,

* writing all the letters.

Without doubt it's a gigantic search for possible libels.

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Re: *NEW!* Judge Tugendhat will hear McCanns' CONTEMPT application 10.30am Wednesday 8 February

Post  littlepixie on Fri Jan 27, 2012 11:59 pm

I find it all really strange Tony. If they take you to Court and take every penny you have it will NOT make any difference whatsoever to what happened to their daughter.

It will not make one iota of difference to the "search" for her.

The Police will still think what they think and the Public will still think what they think.

Long gone are the days when the Majority would be cowed by the actions of those who think they have power over a single individual.

They are fooling themselves and wasting lots of money doing it.

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Post  pauline on Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:12 am

littlepixie wrote:I find it all really strange Tony. If they take you to Court and take every penny you have it will NOT make any difference whatsoever to what happened to their daughter.

It will not make one iota of difference to the "search" for her.

The Police will still think what they think and the Public will still think what they think.

Long gone are the days when the Majority would be cowed by the actions of those who think they have power over a single individual.

They are fooling themselves and wasting lots of money doing it.


Little pixie - a brilliant summing up.

Their motives are not to help the search for Madeleine but

1) to shut Tony up
and
2) if possible, get money out of him

It is ALL about money.

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It is all Goncalo Amaral's fault

Post  Tony Bennett on Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:19 am

littlepixie wrote:I find it all really strange Tony. If they take you to Court and take every penny you have it will NOT make any difference whatsoever to what happened to their daughter.

But the McCanns insist, via Iasbel Hudson's Affidavit to the Court, that my activities are actively 'harming the search for Madeleine', precisely the same claim they made in the libel writ issued in July 2009 in Lisbon against Dr Goncalo Amaral, though of course he was also accused of directly causing the following:

* Dr Gerald and Dr Kate McCann both suffering from 'permanent anxiety'

* Dr Gerald and Dr Kate Mccann both suffering from insomnia

* Dr Gerald and Dr Kate McCann both suffering from lack of appetite

* Dr Gerald and Dr Kate McCann both suffering from irritability

* Dr Gerald and Dr Kate McCann both suffering 'indefinable fear'

* Dr Kate McCann being 'deeply and seriously depressed'

* Dr Gerald and Dr Kate McCann both being 'totally destroyed'

* Dr Gerald and Dr Kate McCann both being 'irreparably damaged', and

* Dr Gerald and Dr Kate McCann both being 'totally destroyed from a moral, social, ethical, emotioanl and family point of view'.

Well, that is what the writ specified, according to a number of news reports not denied by the McCanns.

None of these sufferings, it seems, were caused by the loss of their daughter, nor anxiety about whatever fate befell Madeleine. They were purely caused by Dr Goncalo Amaral.

It will not make one iota of difference to the "search" for her.

The McCanns disagree with you there, littlepixie. Indeed, I think that may be the ONLY reason why they have set Carter-Ruck on a 6-month trawl through articles and postings on our website and on this forum.

The Police will still think what they think...

Or whatever David Cameron has told them to think

...and the Public will still think what they think.

Long gone are the days when the Majority would be cowed by the actions of those who think they have power over a single individual. They are fooling themselves and wasting lots of money doing it.

It is always good to see your posts on here, littlepixie, thank you again for your past and present support - and also for those delicious sandwiches


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Re: *NEW!* Judge Tugendhat will hear McCanns' CONTEMPT application 10.30am Wednesday 8 February

Post  Pershing36 on Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:20 am

I am afraid I don't seem to be able to offer you anything but saying "Good Luck". Hope it all goes well for you.

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Re: *NEW!* Judge Tugendhat will hear McCanns' CONTEMPT application 10.30am Wednesday 8 February

Post  aiyoyo on Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:02 am

Tony Bennett wrote:
littlepixie wrote:I find it all really strange Tony. If they take you to Court and take every penny you have it will NOT make any difference whatsoever to what happened to their daughter.

But the McCanns insist, via Iasbel Hudson's Affidavit to the Court, that my activities are actively 'harming the search for Madeleine', precisely the same claim they made in the libel writ issued in July 2009 in Lisbon against Dr Goncalo Amaral, though of course he was also accused of directly causing the following:

* Dr Gerald and Dr Kate McCann both suffering from 'permanent anxiety'

* Dr Gerald and Dr Kate Mccann both suffering from insomnia

* Dr Gerald and Dr Kate McCann both suffering from lack of appetite

* Dr Gerald and Dr Kate McCann both suffering from irritability

* Dr Gerald and Dr Kate McCann both suffering 'indefinable fear'

* Dr Kate McCann being 'deeply and seriously depressed'

* Dr Gerald and Dr Kate McCann both being 'totally destroyed'

* Dr Gerald and Dr Kate McCann both being 'irreparably damaged', and

* Dr Gerald and Dr Kate McCann both being 'totally destroyed from a moral, social, ethical, emotioanl and family point of view'.

Good grief! All the manifest symptoms of a mental person. In this case, a deranged person with a cause.


Well, that is what the writ specified, according to a number of news reports not denied by the McCanns.

None of these sufferings, it seems, were caused by the loss of their daughter, nor anxiety about whatever fate befell Madeleine. They were purely caused by Dr Goncalo Amaral.

It will not make one iota of difference to the "search" for her.

The McCanns disagree with you there, littlepixie. Indeed, I think that may be the ONLY reason why they have set Carter-Ruck on a 6-month trawl through articles and postings on our website and on this forum.

The Police will still think what they think...

Or whatever David Cameron has told them to think

...and the Public will still think what they think.

Long gone are the days when the Majority would be cowed by the actions of those who think they have power over a single individual. They are fooling themselves and wasting lots of money doing it.

It is always good to see your posts on here, littlepixie, thank you again for your past and present support - and also for those delicious sandwiches

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