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Post by rainbow-fairy on Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:34 am

Another excellent blog entry from Joana Morais;

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2011/12/mccann-spin-gypsy-link-to-maddie.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+JoanaMorais+%28Joana+Morais%29

I hope the link works, it was directed to my blackberry through Feedburner, so possibly may need a tweak?

Seems the McScams are McSpinning again...

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Post by PeterMac on Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:50 am

Here is the original link.
Jon Clarke is the same one who told us about the Angolan bouncer who 'fled to Spain' and knew that Madeleine "might" be in the USA. (If you remember the angolan bouncer actually plays basketball for Huelva.)

http://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2011/12/13/gypsy-link-to-maddie/

Gypsy link to Maddie
DECEMBER 13, 2011 • LEAD, NATIONAL NEWS • 1 COMMENTS
(1 votes, average: 1.00 out of 5)

BRITISH detectives are to return to Spain to investigate a possible gypsy link in the disappearance of Maddie McCann.
A team from Scotland Yard have already spent three days looking into claims that the youngster was smuggled into Spain and taken to Barcelona.

They met with both Spain’s UDYCO organised crime unit and detective Dave Edgar, who has spent years investigating the Spanish claims.
Now they are reported to be returning to investigate the theory that she was snatched by a child kidnap gang run by gypsies.
Portuguese police have already investigated a report by holidaymaker Andre van Wyk that he had seen a girl resembling Madeleine being taken in a cart to a gypsy camp near Portimao, about 16kms from where Maddie disappeared.
Days later a British holidaymaker Jean Godwin saw a girl – ’100 per cent Madeleine’ – being dragged around by ‘gypsy women’ 35kms away.
Her information was followed up by both detective Edgar working for the McCann’s and Portuguese police, but nothing was ever conclusive.
The latest development is part of an on-going ‘investigative review’ into the girl’s disappearance in Portugal in 2007, ordered by Prime Minister David Cameron last year.
Last week, the McCann’s spokesman Clarence Mitchell said: “Kate and Gerry welcome the on-going work by the Metropolitan Police and they are pleased that the investigative review is making progress.”

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Post by PeterMac on Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:55 am

But I just love the stereotyping. Gypsies have to use a "cart". (No gypsy has a car or caravan in Disney universe.) And the girl has to be "dragged around".

And the report does not say "Portuguese police have already investigated a report by holidaymaker Andre van Wyk., but found it to be a load of tosh like all the other ones". The sentence is left hanging. Deliberately.

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Post by rainbow-fairy on Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:16 am

@PeterMac wrote:But I just love the stereotyping. Gypsies have to use a "cart". (No gypsy has a car or caravan in Disney universe.) And the girl has to be "dragged around".

And the report does not say "Portuguese police have already investigated a report by holidaymaker Andre van Wyk., but found it to be a load of tosh like all the other ones". The sentence is left hanging. Deliberately.
Mais oui, PeterMac! I'd lay a fair amount down that the 'fat gypsy ladies' seen 'dragging her around'( coz gypsies are all brutes!) had huge gold hoop earrings, long flowery skirts and headscarves - carrying hedgehogs back to the 'cart' to cook for tea. Daddy gypsy wouldn't be there, he'd be off collecting scrap, tarmaccing drives or beating horses! Yep, the stereotyping is like something out of the Daily Mail...
It's ironic too because all the gypsies I've ever known have white Transit vans not carts *tongue firmly in cheek here*

Thank you for the original link, too, PeterMac. The Angolan bouncer sounds as though he'd be quite at home in Broadmoor...

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Post by aquila on Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:44 am

@rainbow-fairy wrote:
@PeterMac wrote:But I just love the stereotyping. Gypsies have to use a "cart". (No gypsy has a car or caravan in Disney universe.) And the girl has to be "dragged around".

And the report does not say "Portuguese police have already investigated a report by holidaymaker Andre van Wyk., but found it to be a load of tosh like all the other ones". The sentence is left hanging. Deliberately.
Mais oui, PeterMac! I'd lay a fair amount down that the 'fat gypsy ladies' seen 'dragging her around'( coz gypsies are all brutes!) had huge gold hoop earrings, long flowery skirts and headscarves - carrying hedgehogs back to the 'cart' to cook for tea. Daddy gypsy wouldn't be there, he'd be off collecting scrap, tarmaccing drives or beating horses! Yep, the stereotyping is like something out of the Daily Mail...
It's ironic too because all the gypsies I've ever known have white Transit vans not carts *tongue firmly in cheek here*

Thank you for the original link, too, PeterMac. The Angolan bouncer sounds as though he'd be quite at home in Broadmoor...

do gypsies have a yellow brick road? forgive me there, I woke up and mixed up the stereotyping of gypsies with a Disney film...

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Post by PeterMac on Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:11 am

No. They lay Yellow brick roads, with inadequate foundation material, which break up immediately after a little girl and a lion and a tin man and a scarecrow have walked over them !

I am very surprised that no one was described as being swarthy, or smelling of garlic, or muttering, or walking with a limp, or stooping, or unshaven, or furtive.
Standards are slipping !
Both gypsy and reporter's.

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Post by aquila on Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:19 am

@PeterMac wrote:No. They lay Yellow brick roads, with inadequate foundation material, which break up immediately after a little girl and a lion and a tin man and a scarecrow have walked over them !

I am very surprised that no one was described as being swarthy, or smelling of garlic, or muttering, or walking with a limp, or stooping, or unshaven, or furtive.
Standards are slipping !
Both gypsy and reporter's.

I'm laughing my socks off here....I think that would have been a great description of T9....

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Post by rainbow-fairy on Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:06 am

@aquila wrote:
@PeterMac wrote:No. They lay Yellow brick roads, with inadequate foundation material, which break up immediately after a little girl and a lion and a tin man and a scarecrow have walked over them !

I am very surprised that no one was described as being swarthy, or smelling of garlic, or muttering, or walking with a limp, or stooping, or unshaven, or furtive.
Standards are slipping !
Both gypsy and reporter's.

I'm laughing my socks off here....I think that would have been a great description of T9....
Too true, aquila... And thank you for the laughs PeterMac Wink

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Post by PeterMac on Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:49 am

The original was from the Sun a long time ago.
I suspect the gypsies might have moved on by now. They do that, you know.

"“POLICE last night had a new lead in the search for missing Madeleine McCann, that gypsies may have snatched her. A holidaymaker revealed he spotted a fair-skinned little blonde girl in the back of a horse-drawn cart three weeks ago. Retired pilot Andre van Wyk, 66, told how a woman in the cart quickly covered the sleeping youngster’s face with a shawl. He was so suspicious he trailed the cart to a gipsy camp ten miles from where Maddie, four, vanished 48 days ago in Portugal’s Algarve.” – The Sun, June 20, 2007 "

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Post by Me on Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:53 am

@PeterMac wrote:No. They lay Yellow brick roads, with inadequate foundation material, which break up immediately after a little girl and a lion and a tin man and a scarecrow have walked over them !

I am very surprised that no one was described as being swarthy, or smelling of garlic, or muttering, or walking with a limp, or stooping, or unshaven, or furtive.
Standards are slipping !
Both gypsy and reporter's.

In order for the tabloid rags ' "create an article about foreigners / Maddie" machine to work surely we need to add the following before the system will spit out an article suitable for printing:

fat
lazy
sardine munchers
boozy lunches
bungled


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Post by Daisy on Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:14 pm

When I first saw the title of this thread I thought it was about Gerry's key witness Jes Wilkins - the executive producer of My Big Fat Gypsy Weddings and the upcoming My Big Fat Gypsy Christmas.

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Post by rainbow-fairy on Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:35 pm

Gosh, was that Jez?!? I've got the DVD - obviously I haven't read the back properly, oops Sad
There was quite a bit of ill-feeling over the portrayal of some subjects in the series, 'setting up' for the cameras if you like... It made me laugh, how such a big thing was made of the 'pixellated faces' of some of the gypsy men, but nothing said about the pixellated policemen! Double standards? Surely not!
But, being a 'friend' of Kate and Gerry I guess he's no stranger to double standards and fibs both big and small...
I'm now wondering why Mr Wilkins doesn't speak to his gypsy contacts? If Maddie had really been taken by a gypsy, they'd be able to find out! Very few travellers are true strangers to other travellers. Its such a load of nonsense I'd be happy to bet my life savings she wasn't 'taken' by gipsies... Granted, I'd only lose £150, but still... Wink

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Post by Ollie on Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:49 pm

@rainbow-fairy wrote:Gosh, was that Jez?!? I've got the DVD - obviously I haven't read the back properly, oops Sad
There was quite a bit of ill-feeling over the portrayal of some subjects in the series, 'setting up' for the cameras if you like... It made me laugh, how such a big thing was made of the 'pixellated faces' of some of the gypsy men, but nothing said about the pixellated policemen! Double standards? Surely not!
But, being a 'friend' of Kate and Gerry I guess he's no stranger to double standards and fibs both big and small...
I'm now wondering why Mr Wilkins doesn't speak to his gypsy contacts? If Maddie had really been taken by a gypsy, they'd be able to find out! Very few travellers are true strangers to other travellers. Its such a load of nonsense I'd be happy to bet my life savings she wasn't 'taken' by gipsies... Granted, I'd only lose £150, but still... Wink

What a brilliant suggestion rainbow-fairy!

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Post by rainbow-fairy on Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:47 pm

@Ollie wrote:
@rainbow-fairy wrote:Gosh, was that Jez?!? I've got the DVD - obviously I haven't read the back properly, oops Sad
There was quite a bit of ill-feeling over the portrayal of some subjects in the series, 'setting up' for the cameras if you like... It made me laugh, how such a big thing was made of the 'pixellated faces' of some of the gypsy men, but nothing said about the pixellated policemen! Double standards? Surely not!
But, being a 'friend' of Kate and Gerry I guess he's no stranger to double standards and fibs both big and small...
I'm now wondering why Mr Wilkins doesn't speak to his gypsy contacts? If Maddie had really been taken by a gypsy, they'd be able to find out! Very few travellers are true strangers to other travellers. Its such a load of nonsense I'd be happy to bet my life savings she wasn't 'taken' by gipsies... Granted, I'd only lose £150, but still... Wink

What a brilliant suggestion rainbow-fairy!
Well, let's be fair, they've tried everything else, they searched and searched and searched! Knocked on doors and dug through earth with their bare hands - they've searched everywhere! Oops, reality check, that must've been somebody else, they sat on beds all night long Wink or did they? The 'truthful book' says they 'resumed their search at about 4am' yet the 'truthful baggage' admitted on camera they never searched at all... no wonder us mere mortals can't believe a word they say!

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Post by Marian on Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:50 pm

I reckon the gypsies should see a solicitor about the way they've been libelled. I can recommend a firm that's so generous that it does a lot of work for its clients without charging them anything!!

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Post by rainbow-fairy on Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:49 pm

@Marian wrote:I reckon the gypsies should see a solicitor about the way they've been libelled. I can recommend a firm that's so generous that it does a lot of work for its clients without charging them anything!!
Ah yes! Now, what are they called again? Oh, the name is on the tip of my tongue - what was it again? Carting Muck? No, that's not right (though it sounds about right Wink), Farting Cluck??? No, its no good, its gone... I'll sleep on it. To be sure it'll come to me by the morning!
By the way, if everyone sued who'd been libelled and used and abused by the Mc Scams, the court pages would rival War & Peace for length...

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