PeterMac: Back to the beginning - McCann's lies
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PeterMac: Back to the beginning - McCann's lies
Let us once again look at the physical structure of the apartment
There are only three possible points of entry
1 Front door
2 Front window (into children’s bedroom)
3 Patio doors
From the statements of GM and KM and Jez and JT, and forensic teams
1 Front door is locked.
2 Front window shutters were not jemmied or forced
Therefore it must be -
3 Unlocked patio door
Possible points of exit
1 Front door
2 Front window (into children’s bedroom)
3 Patio doors
Take them one by one
1 Front door - it is locked
2 Front window - no forensic signs of exit. Lichen etc. is undisturbed
3 Patio door - GM and Jez are in the lane outside and JT sees bundleman crossing the road at the top of the road whilst all three of them are in the lane.
And from the timing of JT’s statement, if we accept any of the above, Bundleman MUST have been in the apartment whilst GM was there.
(So incidentally any idea of chloroform or other similar Disney-fantasy magic knock-out gas can be discounted)
To Carter-Ruck - have your clients explained to you how any of this can be reconciled ? If they have not done so, or are unable or unwilling to do so, then we are allowed to speculate that they have LIED, and have therefore put themselves into the frame.
I do not know the answer. I was not there.
They were, and therefore probably do.
They must have told you, or you would not in all conscience be able to continue to prevent the truth from being told.
Forgive me, but there follows a completely gratuitous inclusion of the name TONY BENNETT so that the next time they search they will find this post !!
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PeterMac, The only little 'niggle' that I have is the mention of the front door as being 'locked'... with regards to it possibly being a point of exit.
Do we know for a fact that it had been locked with the key?
The only reason I ask, is that with my front door for example, even when it is not locked with the key... I can just open it from the inside
to go out... but it can't be opened from the outside to get in... therefore 'appears' to be locked to the casual observer.
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PeterMac wrote:I snipped
Forgive me, but there follows a completely gratuitous inclusion of the name TONY BENNETT so that the next time they search they will find this post !!
Do you mean if I include Tony Bennett in each of my posts, if necessary with Latin, Dutch or French context, this will make extra work for CR? In these hard times, I think it's almost my duty!
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Mumbles wrote: PeterMac,
The only little 'niggle' that I have is the mention of the front door as being 'locked'... with regards to it possibly being a point of exit.
Do we know for a fact that it had been locked with the key?
The only reason I ask, is that with my front door for example, even when it is not locked with the key... I can just open it from the inside
to go out... but it can't be opened from the outside to get in... therefore 'appears' to be locked to the casual observer.
GM statement 4 May 2007
"Thus, at 9.05pm, Gerry entered the apartment using his key, the door being locked, ..."
At 10.00pm,. Kate went to check on the children. She went into the apartment using her key, and saw.. SNIP. The doors were locked except the one at the back as already noted above [in MO's statement]
What I wrote was based purely on what they, the only people who know the truth, actually said at the time.
I am aware that it makes no sense. That is the whole point.
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http://jatyk2.forumotion.co.uk/t693-more-nonsense-from-hounder-research#18928
Bonnybraes over on JATYK thinks she is better than British and Portuguese police, better than qualified and experienced dog handlers, criminal profilers, lawyers etc.
It's about time this case was handed over to Bonny of the Yard.
Bonny knows everything.

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TrollAng wrote:Sometime between 11am and 2pm the front door story was changed. It'd be very interesting to learn why.
I expect it was because the window wouldn't work. The police had checked it by that time. An abductor might conceivably be able to use the front door to go out, but needed a key to come in. But he or they even! managed to get in via the patio door, not leaving marks.
Another thing going back to the beginning: Cuddle Cat on a high ledge and the pink blanket still on the bed.
These were to be the two clues that told Kate immediately that Maddie had been abducted.
The family duly broadcast this story - a high ledge or a windowsill Maddie could never reach by herself - spoiling it rather later with the remark that Maddie was a screamer and no one would have been able to take her against her will.
The main problem with the whole of the fake abduction isn't so much that the McCanns had underrated the Portugese police, but hightly overrated their own intelligence and credibility. They were doctors, they said this happened, all that was left for the sardine munchers was to take this down as per instruction. The PJ were not expected to do any forensics, judging by the annoyance of the McCanns. They were expected to listen and write down what they were told.
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O'Brien also said that on the 3rd May at abour 21h05 Gerry and Jane Tanner went out at almost the same time to check the children, did she go on a detour? By the time she got to the apartments Gerry had already checked the children and was talking to Jez outside.
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from the book
patio door to check on the children she noticed the [bedroom] was further
ajar than left earlier.
how does that reconcile with the statement to the police that she entered via the front door using her key ... even allowing for confusion. distress, fatigue and the like.... it was stated in the book also that they came and went regularly through the closed but unlocked patio doors .
they appeared although on holiday to be very much creatures of routine, so it is entirely plausible that one door was regularly used. whether it is plausible that they would leave their apartment vulnerable to break -in bu using the patio door is another matter [ the patio doors locking only from the inside, they would have had to use the main door to secure the apartment against burglars and child abductors.]
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