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Post by tigger on 04.11.11 21:20

These are two articles:one about Jamie Pyatt, Sun journalist and one by him.

http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16103268


Published: 23 Sep 2011
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3830431/Madeleine-McCann-troll-grovels-to-Kate-and-Gerry.html

Then there was the journalist who had worked with Clarrie on the Soham murders, possibly already in PdL.
I'll continue tomorrow, but this Pyatt looks an awful lot like the fat man in the playground photo.








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Post by uppatoffee on 04.11.11 23:58

Do you mean the man with the very bendy knees Tigger? I thought he was coloured!

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Post by tigger on 05.11.11 6:49

@uppatoffee wrote:Do you mean the man with the very bendy knees Tigger? I thought he was coloured!

No, I don't think he was coloured, looks a lot like him though, it's just because this blessed woman Lori ? was on the scene very quickly and I'd seen something on a forum that she was there before the 3rd of May. So if she was there before zero hour, could he have a connection with Lori?

Meanwhile to carry on about checking fora and journalists:

quote from link below:
DUARTE Levy writes on the case of Madeleine McCann. He alleges that that Clarence Mitchell, the McCanns’ PR adviser, is “using the Government’s services to keep watch on journalists and forum participants.” Says Mr Levy:

Clarence Mitchell, the McCann’s PR adviser and spokesman, continues to make use of the British government’s services despite having officially resigned from his position as director of the Media Monitoring Unit*. The accusation comes from a Home Office source who has stated that the outgoing director had called upon his former service to keep a watch not only on several journalists but also on the behaviour of participants in a list of forums and blogs considered to be “highly detrimental to the image of the McCanns and that of the British government”.

Can what Mr Levy alleges be true? And if it is, why would it be a big deal for the McCanns’ spokesman to keep an eye on the web, and get what help he can? Mr Levy continues:

Clarence Mitchell, a former journalist for the Daily Express and the BBC, was seconded by the Foreign Office to act as a liaison officer between the media and Madeleine’s parents. Through the intermediary of the respective British embassies, it was he who organised the McCann’s visits to the Vatican, Madrid, Berlin, Amsterdam and Rabat.

Since the very early days, media monitoring has been an important part of Clarence Mitchell’s work. While the McCann’s were in Praia da Luz, it was he who decided to separate journalists according to nationality: the British first, and the Portuguese last.

Today, the McCann’s PR campaign relies more than ever on monitoring public opinion: over the past few days several UK forums and blogs have been shut down due to “anti-McCann” comments. Amongst them is the Mirror newspaper’s forum, which erased all comments about the case without warning when the participants started to debate Home Office interference.

No response from Mr Mitchell is quoted in Mr Levy’s email to us. But why did the Daily Mirror close its forum? Anyone from those forums care to tell us what they know? unquote


http://www.anorak.co.uk/179916/madeleine-mccann/madeleine-mccann-duarte-levy-clarence-mitchell-and-the-daily-mirror.html/

Considering this was published in feb 2008, it's rather amazing that this gag is still firmly in place. So if I got this right, the government paid for the monitoring of fora from the start.

Then I'm looking for a video from a young blonde journalist(e) who went out to PdL and on arriving decided all was not well with the fairy tale, stated so clearly on video and never heard of again.


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Post by TheTruthWillOut on 05.11.11 19:50

@tigger wrote:
@uppatoffee wrote:Do you mean the man with the very bendy knees Tigger? I thought he was coloured!

No, I don't think he was coloured, looks a lot like him though, it's just because this blessed woman Lori ? was on the scene very quickly and I'd seen something on a forum that she was there before the 3rd of May. So if she was there before zero hour, could he have a connection with Lori?

Meanwhile to carry on about checking fora and journalists:

quote from link below:
DUARTE Levy writes on the case of Madeleine McCann. He alleges that that Clarence Mitchell, the McCanns’ PR adviser, is “using the Government’s services to keep watch on journalists and forum participants.” Says Mr Levy:

Clarence Mitchell, the McCann’s PR adviser and spokesman, continues to make use of the British government’s services despite having officially resigned from his position as director of the Media Monitoring Unit*. The accusation comes from a Home Office source who has stated that the outgoing director had called upon his former service to keep a watch not only on several journalists but also on the behaviour of participants in a list of forums and blogs considered to be “highly detrimental to the image of the McCanns and that of the British government”.

Can what Mr Levy alleges be true? And if it is, why would it be a big deal for the McCanns’ spokesman to keep an eye on the web, and get what help he can? Mr Levy continues:

Clarence Mitchell, a former journalist for the Daily Express and the BBC, was seconded by the Foreign Office to act as a liaison officer between the media and Madeleine’s parents. Through the intermediary of the respective British embassies, it was he who organised the McCann’s visits to the Vatican, Madrid, Berlin, Amsterdam and Rabat.

Since the very early days, media monitoring has been an important part of Clarence Mitchell’s work. While the McCann’s were in Praia da Luz, it was he who decided to separate journalists according to nationality: the British first, and the Portuguese last.

Today, the McCann’s PR campaign relies more than ever on monitoring public opinion: over the past few days several UK forums and blogs have been shut down due to “anti-McCann” comments. Amongst them is the Mirror newspaper’s forum, which erased all comments about the case without warning when the participants started to debate Home Office interference.

No response from Mr Mitchell is quoted in Mr Levy’s email to us. But why did the Daily Mirror close its forum? Anyone from those forums care to tell us what they know? unquote


http://www.anorak.co.uk/179916/madeleine-mccann/madeleine-mccann-duarte-levy-clarence-mitchell-and-the-daily-mirror.html/

Considering this was published in feb 2008, it's rather amazing that this gag is still firmly in place. So if I got this right, the government paid for the monitoring of fora from the start.

Then I'm looking for a video from a young blonde journalist(e) who went out to PdL and on arriving decided all was not well with the fairy tale, stated so clearly on video and never heard of again.


Hi tigger.

Your last sentence gave me a flashback. Not sure if this the video you talk about but remember it because it was two women from my local radio station and they sound like something really fishy is going on.



Sorry if it's not the one you are on about, but think it is interesting none the less.

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That is the one more or less.

Post by tigger on 05.11.11 21:09

Thanks! That was the video I had in mind or at least part of it. I think the one I saw dealt only with Lethbridge, not her dark haired friend.
But she does intimate that 'things aren't what they seem'.

I started this topic because I'm truly amazed that the government led monitoring of fora started so early!

So what is it?
Did GB or TB sell the crown jewels? Did Tony have an affair with Caplin? (who cares!) . This cover up seems out of all proportion to whatever it may have been. There is more than a hint of paedophilia in the affair, but hushing that up would be easy enough? I expect not only the Catholic Church keeps a slush fund. Difficult people can have accidents.
Basically, the world has been led by industrialists for at least a hundred years now. Politicians have to do their bidding whilst trying to keep voters happy.
But this seems to be primarily a British problem, handled incompetently imo whichever way you look at it.
And pray Gordon, do tell us, why was it a matter of 'national security?' I gather you are not a patient man, or a tolerant one, yet when Kate writes:
'Left a message for Gordon Brown to phone us ...' , you phoned the next day, personally. I'm thinking that wouldn't be because you like them so much.
I've never even seen a photograph of you with the famous couple, you never know, might have won you that election if you had.



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Post by TheTruthWillOut on 05.11.11 21:38

@tigger wrote:Thanks! That was the video I had in mind or at least part of it. I think the one I saw dealt only with Lethbridge, not her dark haired friend.
But she does intimate that 'things aren't what they seem'.

I started this topic because I'm truly amazed that the government led monitoring of fora started so early!

So what is it?
Did GB or TB sell the crown jewels? Did Tony have an affair with Caplin? (who cares!) . This cover up seems out of all proportion to whatever it may have been. There is more than a hint of paedophilia in the affair, but hushing that up would be easy enough? I expect not only the Catholic Church keeps a slush fund. Difficult people can have accidents.
Basically, the world has been led by industrialists for at least a hundred years now. Politicians have to do their bidding whilst trying to keep voters happy.
But this seems to be primarily a British problem, handled incompetently imo whichever way you look at it.
And pray Gordon, do tell us, why was it a matter of 'national security?' I gather you are not a patient man, or a tolerant one, yet when Kate writes:
'Left a message for Gordon Brown to phone us ...' , you phoned the next day, personally. I'm thinking that wouldn't be because you like them so much.
I've never even seen a photograph of you with the famous couple, you never know, might have won you that election if you had.



It is all very dodgy isn't tigger. Tell you what though..............I'd love to know what Klara Lethbridge means when she says "I have to be so careful about what I'm saying" and "It is not as straight forward as it seems".


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Post by tigger on 06.11.11 10:57

I've snipped the article to shorten it. The salient points:
Ross Hall, I believe, is the partner of Lori Campbell who alerted Leicester Police to Murat on the 6th of May.
Lori Campbell who worked with Clarrie on the Soham murders (photograph of Maddie (photoshopped) in football shirt was available pretty soon)
At the time, it looks as if the McCanns had a different solicitor, how many are they employing?
Ross Hall is the same who was arrested in September for hacking gate?
How soon was Lori Campbell in PdL?

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McCanns' PR steps down The Guardian
Ben Dowell
Thursday 13 September 2007 15.51 BST



Kate and Gerry McCann, the parents of the missing four-year-old Madeleine McCann, are looking for a new full-time public relations adviser after their current PR, Justine McGuinness, decided to step down.


A spokeswoman for the McCanns' solicitors, Kingsley Napley, confirmed that Ms McGuinness was stepping down from her role as the couple's PR.


The couple are thought to be looking for a "big hitter", according to one source familiar with the situation, to work as their full-time PR representative as the investigation into their daughter's disappearance enters a new phase.

Ms McGuinness, a 37-year-old former Liberal Democrat parliamentary candidate, was selected through a headhunter to oversee the PR campaign to aid the search for the couple's daughter.

But it is now thought that the McCanns are looking for a different kind of PR advice after they became suspects in the inquiry into their daughter's disappearance and media coverage has become more negative.

The couple are understood to be consulting a number of senior industry figures about their media strategy, with the leading candidate thought to be former News of the World and Hello! editor Phil Hall.

Mr Hall today admitted to MediaGuardian.co.uk that he had been "speaking regularly" to the couple since their daughter disappeared on May 3 in the Algarve in Portugal.

The newspaperman turned PR executive said: "I have spoken to them a number of times and offered advice and [help] assessing the situation and what they are doing going forward and whether they need someone full time or part time."

Asked if he was being lined up to be their full time PR representative, Mr Hall said: "We are discussing the way forward. I have not been hired ... and I gather they are talking to other people."

Asked if he was being paid by the McCanns for his advice he insisted that he was not, adding: "What, when they call up, do I ask them, 'how much?' Of course not. They are very nice people."

Before Ms McGuinness's arrival in Portugal, the McCanns' media relations were handled by a team from the British government led by Sheree Dodd, a former tabloid journalist.

Then Clarence Mitchell, an ex-BBC news presenter, became the voice of the McCanns before Ms McGuinness took over.

Friends and family have also been quoted in newspapers, including Mr McCann's sister Philomela, who is quoted in today's Sun newspaper describing moves by the Portuguese authorities to examine Kate McCann's private diary as "just another way to stick the knife in".

If Mr Hall or a figure like him is hired, it will mark a new phase of the couple's campaign to prove their innocence.

It will also be the second of two high-profile so-called PR "fire-fighting" signings for Mr Hall.



Mr Hall moved into PR in 2005 when he quit his job as Trinity Mirror's editorial director, after losing out to Richard Wallace in the race for the Daily Mirror editor's chair.

He joined Trinity Mirror in 2003 from the Press Association, where he headed the news agency's contract publishing arm.

He quit his job at PA in January 2003 to join Trinity Mirror as the editorial director.

Mr Hall edited the News of the World for five years before leaving in 2000 to make way for Rebekah Wade. He became the editor of Hello! in January 2001 and helped land a number of scoops, including the rights to Victoria Beckham's official autobiography, Learning to Fly.

The McCanns' legal firm, Kingsley Napley, declined to comment on Mr Hall's professional involvement with its clients.
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Lori Campbell, the Mirror and the Libel writ

Post by tigger on 06.11.11 11:24

By John Blacksmith
Saturday, 17 September 2011 at 15:56

Have you read the libel writ which the McCanns issued against Goncalo Amaral and which is now winding its way through the Portuguese justice system?

No, thought not. Nor have we. The Mirror group has, though, because the McCanns gave it to them. They won't publish it as a whole so that we can see its contents for ourselves – oh, no, no, just the bits they feel that we should read. Nor will they ever put in print why they accepted it or who exactly discussed it with them and what terms were agreed for its use and who chose the bits to highlight and the bits to leave out. That's the sort of stuff that we, the people who pay them, are not allowed to know.

This is the same Mirror group which employed the nasty little snitch Lori Campbell, whose denunciation of Robert Murat – for all the world like some horrible Soviet grass sending a Kulak to the camps under Stalin – diverted the Portuguese police effort when it might have been successfully concentrating on certain more likely suspects. The same Lori Campbell who helped Kate McCann secretly spread a pack of lies to the world not just about the police investigation in August 2007 but the scene of the disappearance itself on the night of May 3; the same Lori Campbell whose husband, an exceptionally murky figure behind his aliases, has been arrested on suspicion of major involvement in the hacking scandal. One wonders how lovable Lori would like it if people started going on television now and, instead of respecting her husband's legal rights, tell the world what a suspiciously dodgy bastard he obviously is, as she did to Murat. Lori Campbell and her husband are not bad apples: no, they are quintessentially typical examples of what the the modern tabloid journalist has become.

How did we ever allow information to be rationed and manipulated in this way? And how did the Mirror, once supposedly a socialist voice for the British working man, come to this – secretly at the service of a couple of Portuguese police suspects? How had a supposed newspaper fallen into the game of withholding the news from its readers, as in the case of the libel writ, rather than providing it? What happened to the idealism that was claimed to drive it – Forward with the People! was its motto – after World War II?

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Journalism according to Swedish author the late great Stieg Larsson

Post by russiandoll on 03.01.12 17:02

From "The Girl Who Kicked The Hornets' Nest " :

" Then I can sum up everything I said in two sentences. Your job as a journalist is to question and scrutinize most critically. And never to repeat claims uncritically, no matter how highly placed the sources in the bureaucracy. Don't ever forget that. You're a terrific writer but you talent is worthless if you forget your job description."

and this one:
" Think like a reporter. Investigate who's spreading the story, why it's being spread, and ask yourself whose intertests it might serve."

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Great Thread

Post by Cristobell on 19.01.12 20:20

I am ploughing my way through this forum, and as someone warned me when I joined, there is a lot to read. Much of this stuff brings to mind the film 'In The Loop' and shenanigans that go on behind closed doors that we the masses, are not allowed to know.

Many thanks for the video links, I had seem them before, but they seem all the more poignant now.

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Post by Advocatus on 19.01.12 20:52

@tigger wrote:
@uppatoffee wrote:Do you mean the man with the very bendy knees Tigger? I thought he was coloured!

No, I don't think he was coloured, looks a lot like him though, it's just because this blessed woman Lori ? was on the scene very quickly and I'd seen something on a forum that she was there before the 3rd of May. So if she was there before zero hour, could he have a connection with Lori?

Meanwhile to carry on about checking fora and journalists:

quote from link below:
DUARTE Levy writes on the case of Madeleine McCann. He alleges that that Clarence Mitchell, the McCanns’ PR adviser, is “using the Government’s services to keep watch on journalists and forum participants.” Says Mr Levy:

Clarence Mitchell, the McCann’s PR adviser and spokesman, continues to make use of the British government’s services despite having officially resigned from his position as director of the Media Monitoring Unit*. The accusation comes from a Home Office source who has stated that the outgoing director had called upon his former service to keep a watch not only on several journalists but also on the behaviour of participants in a list of forums and blogs considered to be “highly detrimental to the image of the McCanns and that of the British government”.

Can what Mr Levy alleges be true? And if it is, why would it be a big deal for the McCanns’ spokesman to keep an eye on the web, and get what help he can? Mr Levy continues:

Clarence Mitchell, a former journalist for the Daily Express and the BBC, was seconded by the Foreign Office to act as a liaison officer between the media and Madeleine’s parents. Through the intermediary of the respective British embassies, it was he who organised the McCann’s visits to the Vatican, Madrid, Berlin, Amsterdam and Rabat.

Since the very early days, media monitoring has been an important part of Clarence Mitchell’s work. While the McCann’s were in Praia da Luz, it was he who decided to separate journalists according to nationality: the British first, and the Portuguese last.

Today, the McCann’s PR campaign relies more than ever on monitoring public opinion: over the past few days several UK forums and blogs have been shut down due to “anti-McCann” comments. Amongst them is the Mirror newspaper’s forum, which erased all comments about the case without warning when the participants started to debate Home Office interference.

No response from Mr Mitchell is quoted in Mr Levy’s email to us. But why did the Daily Mirror close its forum? Anyone from those forums care to tell us what they know? unquote


http://www.anorak.co.uk/179916/madeleine-mccann/madeleine-mccann-duarte-levy-clarence-mitchell-and-the-daily-mirror.html/

Considering this was published in feb 2008, it's rather amazing that this gag is still firmly in place. So if I got this right, the government paid for the monitoring of fora from the start.

Then I'm looking for a video from a young blonde journalist(e) who went out to PdL and on arriving decided all was not well with the fairy tale, stated so clearly on video and never heard of again.


DUARTE Levy writes on the case of Madeleine McCann. He alleges that that Clarence Mitchell, the McCanns’ PR adviser, is “using the Government’s services to keep watch on journalists and forum participants.” Says Mr Levy:


If this dodgy chancer with the superglued syrup is accessing govt/police/sis databases then it is highly illegal! If said dodgy chancer from Friern Barnet (come to think of it his Twilight Zone barnet does have that look of Friern about it) is tapping away on top secret computers then he is obviously an asset of mi5/6 as the wriggling greasemonger contaminates all cities and all countries all the s*dding time!

Outed! He is agent .007!!! lol4 lol4 lol4

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Post by Cristobell on 19.01.12 21:03

@Advocatus wrote:
@tigger wrote:
@uppatoffee wrote:Do you mean the man with the very bendy knees Tigger? I thought he was coloured!

No, I don't think he was coloured, looks a lot like him though, it's just because this blessed woman Lori ? was on the scene very quickly and I'd seen something on a forum that she was there before the 3rd of May. So if she was there before zero hour, could he have a connection with Lori?

Meanwhile to carry on about checking fora and journalists:

quote from link below:
DUARTE Levy writes on the case of Madeleine McCann. He alleges that that Clarence Mitchell, the McCanns’ PR adviser, is “using the Government’s services to keep watch on journalists and forum participants.” Says Mr Levy:

Clarence Mitchell, the McCann’s PR adviser and spokesman, continues to make use of the British government’s services despite having officially resigned from his position as director of the Media Monitoring Unit*. The accusation comes from a Home Office source who has stated that the outgoing director had called upon his former service to keep a watch not only on several journalists but also on the behaviour of participants in a list of forums and blogs considered to be “highly detrimental to the image of the McCanns and that of the British government”.

Can what Mr Levy alleges be true? And if it is, why would it be a big deal for the McCanns’ spokesman to keep an eye on the web, and get what help he can? Mr Levy continues:

Clarence Mitchell, a former journalist for the Daily Express and the BBC, was seconded by the Foreign Office to act as a liaison officer between the media and Madeleine’s parents. Through the intermediary of the respective British embassies, it was he who organised the McCann’s visits to the Vatican, Madrid, Berlin, Amsterdam and Rabat.

Since the very early days, media monitoring has been an important part of Clarence Mitchell’s work. While the McCann’s were in Praia da Luz, it was he who decided to separate journalists according to nationality: the British first, and the Portuguese last.

Today, the McCann’s PR campaign relies more than ever on monitoring public opinion: over the past few days several UK forums and blogs have been shut down due to “anti-McCann” comments. Amongst them is the Mirror newspaper’s forum, which erased all comments about the case without warning when the participants started to debate Home Office interference.

No response from Mr Mitchell is quoted in Mr Levy’s email to us. But why did the Daily Mirror close its forum? Anyone from those forums care to tell us what they know? unquote


http://www.anorak.co.uk/179916/madeleine-mccann/madeleine-mccann-duarte-levy-clarence-mitchell-and-the-daily-mirror.html/

Considering this was published in feb 2008, it's rather amazing that this gag is still firmly in place. So if I got this right, the government paid for the monitoring of fora from the start.

Then I'm looking for a video from a young blonde journalist(e) who went out to PdL and on arriving decided all was not well with the fairy tale, stated so clearly on video and never heard of again.


DUARTE Levy writes on the case of Madeleine McCann. He alleges that that Clarence Mitchell, the McCanns’ PR adviser, is “using the Government’s services to keep watch on journalists and forum participants.” Says Mr Levy:


If this dodgy chancer with the superglued syrup is accessing govt/police/sis databases then it is highly illegal! If said dodgy chancer from Friern Barnet (come to think of it his Twight Zone barnet does have that look of Friern about it) is tapping away on top secret computers then he is obviously an asset of mi5/6 as the wriggling greasemonger contaminates all cities and all countries all the s*dding time!

Outed! He is agent .007!!!



Well you have certainly spoiled my fond memories of the suave Sean Connery there Advoca! lol

I have always tried to look at this case with an open mind, a sort of anything's possible, and after wading through so much information, I reached my own conclusions. I only gave scant regard to the wilder conspiracy theories, always bearing in mind the philosophy of 'keep it simple stupid' (either Zen or Clinton) - but I am now having to re-think it all over again, and I haven't dared look at the 'what 5A was used for' thread!

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Post by Advocatus on 19.01.12 21:11

@tigger wrote:Thanks! That was the video I had in mind or at least part of it. I think the one I saw dealt only with Lethbridge, not her dark haired friend.
But she does intimate that 'things aren't what they seem'.

I started this topic because I'm truly amazed that the government led monitoring of fora started so early!

So what is it?
Did GB or TB sell the crown jewels? Did Tony have an affair with Caplin? (who cares!) . This cover up seems out of all proportion to whatever it may have been. There is more than a hint of paedophilia in the affair, but hushing that up would be easy enough? I expect not only the Catholic Church keeps a slush fund. Difficult people can have accidents.
Basically, the world has been led by industrialists for at least a hundred years now. Politicians have to do their bidding whilst trying to keep voters happy.
But this seems to be primarily a British problem, handled incompetently imo whichever way you look at it.
And pray Gordon, do tell us, why was it a matter of 'national security?' I gather you are not a patient man, or a tolerant one, yet when Kate writes:
'Left a message for Gordon Brown to phone us ...' , you phoned the next day, personally. I'm thinking that wouldn't be because you like them so much.
I've never even seen a photograph of you with the famous couple, you never know, might have won you that election if you had.



Ever heard of this resort - where the east coast American political and elite class go to let off steam? See the recent movie by Polanski, based on an ex-prime minister hiding out in the same very PRIVATE place?

http://longisland.about.com/od/wheretoeatdrink/a/hamptonsnightlife.htm


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Post by Guest on 19.01.12 21:13

@Cristobell wrote:
@Advocatus wrote:
@tigger wrote:
@uppatoffee wrote:Do you mean the man with the very bendy knees Tigger? I thought he was coloured!

No, I don't think he was coloured, looks a lot like him though, it's just because this blessed woman Lori ? was on the scene very quickly and I'd seen something on a forum that she was there before the 3rd of May. So if she was there before zero hour, could he have a connection with Lori?

Meanwhile to carry on about checking fora and journalists:

quote from link below:
DUARTE Levy writes on the case of Madeleine McCann. He alleges that that Clarence Mitchell, the McCanns’ PR adviser, is “using the Government’s services to keep watch on journalists and forum participants.” Says Mr Levy:

Clarence Mitchell, the McCann’s PR adviser and spokesman, continues to make use of the British government’s services despite having officially resigned from his position as director of the Media Monitoring Unit*. The accusation comes from a Home Office source who has stated that the outgoing director had called upon his former service to keep a watch not only on several journalists but also on the behaviour of participants in a list of forums and blogs considered to be “highly detrimental to the image of the McCanns and that of the British government”.

Can what Mr Levy alleges be true? And if it is, why would it be a big deal for the McCanns’ spokesman to keep an eye on the web, and get what help he can? Mr Levy continues:

Clarence Mitchell, a former journalist for the Daily Express and the BBC, was seconded by the Foreign Office to act as a liaison officer between the media and Madeleine’s parents. Through the intermediary of the respective British embassies, it was he who organised the McCann’s visits to the Vatican, Madrid, Berlin, Amsterdam and Rabat.

Since the very early days, media monitoring has been an important part of Clarence Mitchell’s work. While the McCann’s were in Praia da Luz, it was he who decided to separate journalists according to nationality: the British first, and the Portuguese last.

Today, the McCann’s PR campaign relies more than ever on monitoring public opinion: over the past few days several UK forums and blogs have been shut down due to “anti-McCann” comments. Amongst them is the Mirror newspaper’s forum, which erased all comments about the case without warning when the participants started to debate Home Office interference.

No response from Mr Mitchell is quoted in Mr Levy’s email to us. But why did the Daily Mirror close its forum? Anyone from those forums care to tell us what they know? unquote


http://www.anorak.co.uk/179916/madeleine-mccann/madeleine-mccann-duarte-levy-clarence-mitchell-and-the-daily-mirror.html/

Considering this was published in feb 2008, it's rather amazing that this gag is still firmly in place. So if I got this right, the government paid for the monitoring of fora from the start.

Then I'm looking for a video from a young blonde journalist(e) who went out to PdL and on arriving decided all was not well with the fairy tale, stated so clearly on video and never heard of again.


DUARTE Levy writes on the case of Madeleine McCann. He alleges that that Clarence Mitchell, the McCanns’ PR adviser, is “using the Government’s services to keep watch on journalists and forum participants.” Says Mr Levy:


If this dodgy chancer with the superglued syrup is accessing govt/police/sis databases then it is highly illegal! If said dodgy chancer from Friern Barnet (come to think of it his Twight Zone barnet does have that look of Friern about it) is tapping away on top secret computers then he is obviously an asset of mi5/6 as the wriggling greasemonger contaminates all cities and all countries all the s*dding time!

Outed! He is agent .007!!!



Well you have certainly spoiled my fond memories of the suave Sean Connery there Advoca! lol

I have always tried to look at this case with an open mind, a sort of anything's possible, and after wading through so much information, I reached my own conclusions. I only gave scant regard to the wilder conspiracy theories, always bearing in mind the philosophy of 'keep it simple stupid' (either Zen or Clinton) - but I am now having to re-think it all over again, and I haven't dared look at the 'what 5A was used for' thread!


Advocatus, I have told you before not to state things as facts, if they are not proven. There is noooo evidence that he wears a superglued syrup laugh If he does it is well within the bounds of responsible grooming! titter

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Post by Cristobell on 19.01.12 21:18

I am sitting here giggling Candyfloss - he was a sight wasn't he? It's a wonder someone didn't ask him 'if everything was alright with his hair' - I couldn't take me eyes off it, missed everything he said, lol.

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Post by Advocatus on 19.01.12 21:26

@tigger wrote:I've snipped the article to shorten it. The salient points:
Ross Hall, I believe, is the partner of Lori Campbell who alerted Leicester Police to Murat on the 6th of May.
Lori Campbell who worked with Clarrie on the Soham murders (photograph of Maddie (photoshopped) in football shirt was available pretty soon)
At the time, it looks as if the McCanns had a different solicitor, how many are they employing?
Ross Hall is the same who was arrested in September for hacking gate?
How soon was Lori Campbell in PdL?

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McCanns' PR steps down The Guardian
Ben Dowell
Thursday 13 September 2007 15.51 BST



Kate and Gerry McCann, the parents of the missing four-year-old Madeleine McCann, are looking for a new full-time public relations adviser after their current PR, Justine McGuinness, decided to step down.


A spokeswoman for the McCanns' solicitors, Kingsley Napley, confirmed that Ms McGuinness was stepping down from her role as the couple's PR.


The couple are thought to be looking for a "big hitter", according to one source familiar with the situation, to work as their full-time PR representative as the investigation into their daughter's disappearance enters a new phase.

Ms McGuinness, a 37-year-old former Liberal Democrat parliamentary candidate, was selected through a headhunter to oversee the PR campaign to aid the search for the couple's daughter.

But it is now thought that the McCanns are looking for a different kind of PR advice after they became suspects in the inquiry into their daughter's disappearance and media coverage has become more negative.

The couple are understood to be consulting a number of senior industry figures about their media strategy, with the leading candidate thought to be former News of the World and Hello! editor Phil Hall.

Mr Hall today admitted to MediaGuardian.co.uk that he had been "speaking regularly" to the couple since their daughter disappeared on May 3 in the Algarve in Portugal.

The newspaperman turned PR executive said: "I have spoken to them a number of times and offered advice and [help] assessing the situation and what they are doing going forward and whether they need someone full time or part time."

Asked if he was being lined up to be their full time PR representative, Mr Hall said: "We are discussing the way forward. I have not been hired ... and I gather they are talking to other people."

Asked if he was being paid by the McCanns for his advice he insisted that he was not, adding: "What, when they call up, do I ask them, 'how much?' Of course not. They are very nice people."

Before Ms McGuinness's arrival in Portugal, the McCanns' media relations were handled by a team from the British government led by Sheree Dodd, a former tabloid journalist.

Then Clarence Mitchell, an ex-BBC news presenter, became the voice of the McCanns before Ms McGuinness took over.

Friends and family have also been quoted in newspapers, including Mr McCann's sister Philomela, who is quoted in today's Sun newspaper describing moves by the Portuguese authorities to examine Kate McCann's private diary as "just another way to stick the knife in".

If Mr Hall or a figure like him is hired, it will mark a new phase of the couple's campaign to prove their innocence.

It will also be the second of two high-profile so-called PR "fire-fighting" signings for Mr Hall.



Mr Hall moved into PR in 2005 when he quit his job as Trinity Mirror's editorial director, after losing out to Richard Wallace in the race for the Daily Mirror editor's chair.

He joined Trinity Mirror in 2003 from the Press Association, where he headed the news agency's contract publishing arm.

He quit his job at PA in January 2003 to join Trinity Mirror as the editorial director.

Mr Hall edited the News of the World for five years before leaving in 2000 to make way for Rebekah Wade. He became the editor of Hello! in January 2001 and helped land a number of scoops, including the rights to Victoria Beckham's official autobiography, Learning to Fly.

The McCanns' legal firm, Kingsley Napley, declined to comment on Mr Hall's professional involvement with its clients.
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A spokeswoman for the McCanns' solicitors, Kingsley Napley, confirmed that Ms McGuinness was stepping down from her role as the couple's PR.


Excellent sleuthing tigger!

I wonder if we all know who exactly WHO Kinsley Napley ARE?

Steve Marsden in "Faked Abduction" lays it all out very very neatly indeed! lol4



High-ranking MP from Leicester in paedophile allegations
  Annabel on Thu 8 Oct - 8:36
8.10.09
High-ranking MP from Leicester in paedophile allegations
Thirteen years before the Madeleine McCann story, Leicestershire Constabulary found itself in the middle of another controversial story. Greville Janner QC MP was accused of sodomising Paul Winston.

The story came out during the trial of Frank Beck in Leicester in 1994. Beck died under suspicious circumstances and Janner never had to take the stand. A booklet was produced and is reproduced below.

It is worth repeating the text because one can see many parallels between that case and the Madeleine McCann case.

There are Freemasons involved in the cover-up. Sir David Napley of Kingsley Napley represented Janner and Michael Caplan QC of Kingsley Napley represented the McCanns soon after they fled Portugal in September 2007. Many believe that Michael Caplan QC represented the McCanns because he had successfully defended Augusto Pinochet against extradition. However, it is not widely known that Augusto Pinochet was a high-ranking Freemason. Of course, Janner is a Freemason as well.

This is a rather depressing story. It shows how the establishment work and long before the Internet was as powerful as it is today we have to ask just how many stories like this have been covered up? Former soccer star Justin Fashanu claimed to have had sex with MPs. He ended up dead, just as Stephen Milligan MP did after allegedly trying to gag Fashanu.

It seems that politicians can evade having to face the music but rich people in the music industry are not so lucky as Jonathan King, Tam Paton and Paul Gadd have found to their cost.

Is there any wonder the McCann case is treading water?

http://gerrymccan-abuseofpower-humanrights.blogspot.com/
http://madeleinefoundation.org/main/2009/10/greville-janner-qc-mp/


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Post by Advocatus on 19.01.12 21:29

candyfloss wrote:
@Cristobell wrote:
@Advocatus wrote:
@tigger wrote:
@uppatoffee wrote:Do you mean the man with the very bendy knees Tigger? I thought he was coloured!

No, I don't think he was coloured, looks a lot like him though, it's just because this blessed woman Lori ? was on the scene very quickly and I'd seen something on a forum that she was there before the 3rd of May. So if she was there before zero hour, could he have a connection with Lori?

Meanwhile to carry on about checking fora and journalists:

quote from link below:
DUARTE Levy writes on the case of Madeleine McCann. He alleges that that Clarence Mitchell, the McCanns’ PR adviser, is “using the Government’s services to keep watch on journalists and forum participants.” Says Mr Levy:

Clarence Mitchell, the McCann’s PR adviser and spokesman, continues to make use of the British government’s services despite having officially resigned from his position as director of the Media Monitoring Unit*. The accusation comes from a Home Office source who has stated that the outgoing director had called upon his former service to keep a watch not only on several journalists but also on the behaviour of participants in a list of forums and blogs considered to be “highly detrimental to the image of the McCanns and that of the British government”.

Can what Mr Levy alleges be true? And if it is, why would it be a big deal for the McCanns’ spokesman to keep an eye on the web, and get what help he can? Mr Levy continues:

Clarence Mitchell, a former journalist for the Daily Express and the BBC, was seconded by the Foreign Office to act as a liaison officer between the media and Madeleine’s parents. Through the intermediary of the respective British embassies, it was he who organised the McCann’s visits to the Vatican, Madrid, Berlin, Amsterdam and Rabat.

Since the very early days, media monitoring has been an important part of Clarence Mitchell’s work. While the McCann’s were in Praia da Luz, it was he who decided to separate journalists according to nationality: the British first, and the Portuguese last.

Today, the McCann’s PR campaign relies more than ever on monitoring public opinion: over the past few days several UK forums and blogs have been shut down due to “anti-McCann” comments. Amongst them is the Mirror newspaper’s forum, which erased all comments about the case without warning when the participants started to debate Home Office interference.

No response from Mr Mitchell is quoted in Mr Levy’s email to us. But why did the Daily Mirror close its forum? Anyone from those forums care to tell us what they know? unquote


http://www.anorak.co.uk/179916/madeleine-mccann/madeleine-mccann-duarte-levy-clarence-mitchell-and-the-daily-mirror.html/

Considering this was published in feb 2008, it's rather amazing that this gag is still firmly in place. So if I got this right, the government paid for the monitoring of fora from the start.

Then I'm looking for a video from a young blonde journalist(e) who went out to PdL and on arriving decided all was not well with the fairy tale, stated so clearly on video and never heard of again.


DUARTE Levy writes on the case of Madeleine McCann. He alleges that that Clarence Mitchell, the McCanns’ PR adviser, is “using the Government’s services to keep watch on journalists and forum participants.” Says Mr Levy:


If this dodgy chancer with the superglued syrup is accessing govt/police/sis databases then it is highly illegal! If said dodgy chancer from Friern Barnet (come to think of it his Twight Zone barnet does have that look of Friern about it) is tapping away on top secret computers then he is obviously an asset of mi5/6 as the wriggling greasemonger contaminates all cities and all countries all the s*dding time!

Outed! He is agent .007!!!



Well you have certainly spoiled my fond memories of the suave Sean Connery there Advoca! lol

I have always tried to look at this case with an open mind, a sort of anything's possible, and after wading through so much information, I reached my own conclusions. I only gave scant regard to the wilder conspiracy theories, always bearing in mind the philosophy of 'keep it simple stupid' (either Zen or Clinton) - but I am now having to re-think it all over again, and I haven't dared look at the 'what 5A was used for' thread!


Advocatus, I have told you before not to state things as facts, if they are not proven. There is noooo evidence that he wears a superglued syrup laugh If he does it is well within the bounds of responsible grooming! titter


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Post by Cristobell on 19.01.12 21:33

Excellent sleuthing indeed, and I am startled to read what you have found out too Advoca. Apologies for mispelling your name, I am struggling with the format of the board at the mo. Also is there a way to reply without copying everything? I have to scroll all the way back to page one the way that I am doing it...........

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@Cristobell wrote:Excellent sleuthing indeed, and I am startled to read what you have found out too Advoca. Apologies for mispelling your name, I am struggling with the format of the board at the mo. Also is there a way to reply without copying everything? I have to scroll all the way back to page one the way that I am doing it...........

Don't know if I know what you mean Cristobell, but there is a post reply box and the end of every page, unless of course you want to quote someone's post then you have to go back to that, and then press the quote button in the box of the post you are replying to.

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Post by Advocatus on 19.01.12 21:40

@Cristobell wrote:Excellent sleuthing indeed, and I am startled to read what you have found out too Advoca. Apologies for mispelling your name, I am struggling with the format of the board at the mo. Also is there a way to reply without copying everything? I have to scroll all the way back to page one the way that I am doing it...........

Don't worry, people call me all sorts of names all the time!lol4

Best way is to maybe just cut and paste what you are interested in (on a long post day)

Then hit the reply button, paste it in, then make your comments, all sorts of ways really, opera was useless for me, Firefox seems to work thumbup

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@Cristobell wrote:Excellent sleuthing indeed, and I am startled to read what you have found out too Advoca. Apologies for mispelling your name, I am struggling with the format of the board at the mo. Also is there a way to reply without copying everything? I have to scroll all the way back to page one the way that I am doing it...........

Don't know if I know what you mean Cristobell, but there is a post reply box and the end of every page, unless of course you want to quote someone's post then you have to go back to that, and then press the quote button in the box of the post you are replying to.

That works well too, get rid of the start and end HTML bits, then insert your comments in the colour of you choice from the palette box at the top...

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from the sister blog of Little Morsals

Post by tigger on 05.09.12 7:11

http://mccanncase.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/another-olive-sighting-of-madeleine.html
Click the link for more information on JC.


Wednesday, 29 August 2012
Another Olive Sighting of Madeleine McCann
Was Madeleine McCann in Ibiza? Asks The The Olive Press who has sprung another sighting, this time on a flight from Ibiza to Germany. The first obstacle is that the family must have a passport for the child in question to board a flight with them in the first place. Or are we to believe that this family – who have two older children and therefore not a childless couple seeking to start a family at any cost – bought Madeleine along with a new identity for her?

But with the obvious aside...

...According to the 'sighter' Frank Bode:

She didn’t seem to fit with her family at all.
Her father and her two brothers are clearly German
Her mother appeared to be British
They all spoke German except for the girl who he clearly heard speaking British English.
Girl seemed totally out of place, nervous, stuttering, just not normal.
Her mother, who bore no resemblance to the girl, was strange woman and didn’t talk the entire trip

If Madeleine had been abducted -- as stated by the McCann couple -- then it’s doubtful she would be speaking ‘British English’ after five years with a foreign family. Five years is long enough for a child to adapt to their surroundings and more importantly, speak their language.

Frank Bode surmises that the mother appeared to be British yet he also states that she did not talk throughout the entire trip. So other than her appearance (which as we know can be deceiving at the best of times), what on earth made him think that she was anything but German? He doesn't say.

What of the fathers’ appearance? Did he look German or British to Frank Bode? This is important because that may put some perspective on the mothers’ appearance through the eyes of Bode. But let’s not get hung up on detail...the father spoke German so that is that...at least according to Frank Bode and the Olive Press article.

As for “out of place, nervous, stuttering, just not normal” – God forbid the girl may simply be shy by nature or nervous of flying. Whichever, it seems too flimsy an argument to warrant printing a photograph of the child in question for the world to ogle.

But there is something that’s bothering me about The Olive Press...it may just be a strange coincidence...




The publisher and editor at Olive Press is Jon Clarke (photo above). According to his bio at the journalisted: in 2002 he started working as a freelancer for the Telegraph, Times, Mirror, Sun, Sunday Times, Mail and Mail on Sunday and it seems by the wording ‘to date’ he’s still employed by those newspapers, albeit freelance.

What is interesting is that he became Publisher/Editor at The Olive Press in 2007! I would be very interested to know which month of 2007 because according to journalisted he has written more about Madeleine than anything else. I suspect all his McCann articles will be ‘pro abduction’.


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Post by bobbin on 05.09.12 7:55

@tigger wrote:http://mccanncase.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/another-olive-sighting-of-madeleine.html
Click the link for more information on JC.


Wednesday, 29 August 2012
Another Olive Sighting of Madeleine McCann
Was Madeleine McCann in Ibiza? Asks The The Olive Press who has sprung another sighting, this time on a flight from Ibiza to Germany. The first obstacle is that the family must have a passport for the child in question to board a flight with them in the first place. Or are we to believe that this family – who have two older children and therefore not a childless couple seeking to start a family at any cost – bought Madeleine along with a new identity for her?

But with the obvious aside...

...According to the 'sighter' Frank Bode:

She didn’t seem to fit with her family at all.
Her father and her two brothers are clearly German
Her mother appeared to be British
They all spoke German except for the girl who he clearly heard speaking British English.
Girl seemed totally out of place, nervous, stuttering, just not normal.
Her mother, who bore no resemblance to the girl, was strange woman and didn’t talk the entire trip

If Madeleine had been abducted -- as stated by the McCann couple -- then it’s doubtful she would be speaking ‘British English’ after five years with a foreign family. Five years is long enough for a child to adapt to their surroundings and more importantly, speak their language.

Frank Bode surmises that the mother appeared to be British yet he also states that she did not talk throughout the entire trip. So other than her appearance (which as we know can be deceiving at the best of times), what on earth made him think that she was anything but German? He doesn't say.

What of the fathers’ appearance? Did he look German or British to Frank Bode? This is important because that may put some perspective on the mothers’ appearance through the eyes of Bode. But let’s not get hung up on detail...the father spoke German so that is that...at least according to Frank Bode and the Olive Press article.

As for “out of place, nervous, stuttering, just not normal” – God forbid the girl may simply be shy by nature or nervous of flying. Whichever, it seems too flimsy an argument to warrant printing a photograph of the child in question for the world to ogle.

But there is something that’s bothering me about The Olive Press...it may just be a strange coincidence...




The publisher and editor at Olive Press is Jon Clarke (photo above). According to his bio at the journalisted: in 2002 he started working as a freelancer for the Telegraph, Times, Mirror, Sun, Sunday Times, Mail and Mail on Sunday and it seems by the wording ‘to date’ he’s still employed by those newspapers, albeit freelance.

What is interesting is that he became Publisher/Editor at The Olive Press in 2007! I would be very interested to know which month of 2007 because according to journalisted he has written more about Madeleine than anything else. I suspect all his McCann articles will be ‘pro abduction’.


This is worthy of following up, IMO. Perhaps PeterMac can help here, he seems to know this Jon Clarke.
With Rebecca Brooks and her now exposed methods of dealing, I am suddenly thinking of the BBC Panorama video where Jon Corner states that maybe it's Kate and Gerry that will be the 'story'.
Too many people, with too many links, too many coincidences are being discovered. Catriona Baker, friends with Jon Corner's daughter, himself, the godparent of the twins, etc. etc.
It will be interesting to discover just 'when' Jon Clarke became settled in position in the Algarve, with control of the media serving the British population.

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Post by Nina on 05.09.12 8:43

@bobbin wrote:
@tigger wrote:http://mccanncase.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/another-olive-sighting-of-madeleine.html
Click the link for more information on JC.


Wednesday, 29 August 2012
Another Olive Sighting of Madeleine McCann
Was Madeleine McCann in Ibiza? Asks The The Olive Press who has sprung another sighting, this time on a flight from Ibiza to Germany. The first obstacle is that the family must have a passport for the child in question to board a flight with them in the first place. Or are we to believe that this family – who have two older children and therefore not a childless couple seeking to start a family at any cost – bought Madeleine along with a new identity for her?

But with the obvious aside...

...According to the 'sighter' Frank Bode:

She didn’t seem to fit with her family at all.
Her father and her two brothers are clearly German
Her mother appeared to be British
They all spoke German except for the girl who he clearly heard speaking British English.
Girl seemed totally out of place, nervous, stuttering, just not normal.
Her mother, who bore no resemblance to the girl, was strange woman and didn’t talk the entire trip

If Madeleine had been abducted -- as stated by the McCann couple -- then it’s doubtful she would be speaking ‘British English’ after five years with a foreign family. Five years is long enough for a child to adapt to their surroundings and more importantly, speak their language.

Frank Bode surmises that the mother appeared to be British yet he also states that she did not talk throughout the entire trip. So other than her appearance (which as we know can be deceiving at the best of times), what on earth made him think that she was anything but German? He doesn't say.

What of the fathers’ appearance? Did he look German or British to Frank Bode? This is important because that may put some perspective on the mothers’ appearance through the eyes of Bode. But let’s not get hung up on detail...the father spoke German so that is that...at least according to Frank Bode and the Olive Press article.

As for “out of place, nervous, stuttering, just not normal” – God forbid the girl may simply be shy by nature or nervous of flying. Whichever, it seems too flimsy an argument to warrant printing a photograph of the child in question for the world to ogle.

But there is something that’s bothering me about The Olive Press...it may just be a strange coincidence...




The publisher and editor at Olive Press is Jon Clarke (photo above). According to his bio at the journalisted: in 2002 he started working as a freelancer for the Telegraph, Times, Mirror, Sun, Sunday Times, Mail and Mail on Sunday and it seems by the wording ‘to date’ he’s still employed by those newspapers, albeit freelance.

What is interesting is that he became Publisher/Editor at The Olive Press in 2007! I would be very interested to know which month of 2007 because according to journalisted he has written more about Madeleine than anything else. I suspect all his McCann articles will be ‘pro abduction’.


This is worthy of following up, IMO. Perhaps PeterMac can help here, he seems to know this Jon Clarke.
With Rebecca Brooks and her now exposed methods of dealing, I am suddenly thinking of the BBC Panorama video where Jon Corner states that maybe it's Kate and Gerry that will be the 'story'.
Too many people, with too many links, too many coincidences are being discovered. Catriona Baker, friends with Jon Corner's daughter, himself, the godparent of the twins, etc. etc.
It will be interesting to discover just 'when' Jon Clarke became settled in position in the Algarve, with control of the media serving the British population.

Hi Bobbin, he isn't settled in the Algarve, he is settled in southern Spain, near Ronda.

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Post by bobbin on 05.09.12 8:48

@Nina wrote:
@bobbin wrote:
@tigger wrote:http://mccanncase.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/another-olive-sighting-of-madeleine.html
Click the link for more information on JC.


Wednesday, 29 August 2012
Another Olive Sighting of Madeleine McCann
Was Madeleine McCann in Ibiza? Asks The The Olive Press who has sprung another sighting, this time on a flight from Ibiza to Germany. The first obstacle is that the family must have a passport for the child in question to board a flight with them in the first place. Or are we to believe that this family – who have two older children and therefore not a childless couple seeking to start a family at any cost – bought Madeleine along with a new identity for her?

But with the obvious aside...

...According to the 'sighter' Frank Bode:

She didn’t seem to fit with her family at all.
Her father and her two brothers are clearly German
Her mother appeared to be British
They all spoke German except for the girl who he clearly heard speaking British English.
Girl seemed totally out of place, nervous, stuttering, just not normal.
Her mother, who bore no resemblance to the girl, was strange woman and didn’t talk the entire trip

If Madeleine had been abducted -- as stated by the McCann couple -- then it’s doubtful she would be speaking ‘British English’ after five years with a foreign family. Five years is long enough for a child to adapt to their surroundings and more importantly, speak their language.

Frank Bode surmises that the mother appeared to be British yet he also states that she did not talk throughout the entire trip. So other than her appearance (which as we know can be deceiving at the best of times), what on earth made him think that she was anything but German? He doesn't say.

What of the fathers’ appearance? Did he look German or British to Frank Bode? This is important because that may put some perspective on the mothers’ appearance through the eyes of Bode. But let’s not get hung up on detail...the father spoke German so that is that...at least according to Frank Bode and the Olive Press article.

As for “out of place, nervous, stuttering, just not normal” – God forbid the girl may simply be shy by nature or nervous of flying. Whichever, it seems too flimsy an argument to warrant printing a photograph of the child in question for the world to ogle.

But there is something that’s bothering me about The Olive Press...it may just be a strange coincidence...




The publisher and editor at Olive Press is Jon Clarke (photo above). According to his bio at the journalisted: in 2002 he started working as a freelancer for the Telegraph, Times, Mirror, Sun, Sunday Times, Mail and Mail on Sunday and it seems by the wording ‘to date’ he’s still employed by those newspapers, albeit freelance.

What is interesting is that he became Publisher/Editor at The Olive Press in 2007! I would be very interested to know which month of 2007 because according to journalisted he has written more about Madeleine than anything else. I suspect all his McCann articles will be ‘pro abduction’.


This is worthy of following up, IMO. Perhaps PeterMac can help here, he seems to know this Jon Clarke.
With Rebecca Brooks and her now exposed methods of dealing, I am suddenly thinking of the BBC Panorama video where Jon Corner states that maybe it's Kate and Gerry that will be the 'story'.
Too many people, with too many links, too many coincidences are being discovered. Catriona Baker, friends with Jon Corner's daughter, himself, the godparent of the twins, etc. etc.
It will be interesting to discover just 'when' Jon Clarke became settled in position in the Algarve, with control of the media serving the British population.

Hi Bobbin, he isn't settled in the Algarve, he is settled in southern Spain, near Ronda.

Aah, thank you Nina for the correction, and that of course will explain better why PeterMac knows him.

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