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Re: McCanns Easter break Donegal 2007

Post  Daisy on Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:29 pm

Marian wrote:Yes there could have been other photos taken in Donegal (nobody has suggested otherwise) but I'm surprised that it took a year to release just a couple of them. Such recent photos would have been very relevant in May 2007. There is also the problem that so few photos have been issued of the PDL holiday itself. Apart from the grainy airport mobile phone footage there are none of the whole family, not even any of the three children together and those that there are are all of very doubtful authenticity.

The mysterious Joe Peoples definitely sounds like a friend of the McCanns with his constantly changing stories.


Thank you for noting the mysteriousness of Joe Peoples Marian, that means it's not me going mad.

Who is he? I really don't know. I've spent a fair bit of my precious time trying to find out but to no avail. I know there's a lot more falsehoods apparently attributed to Mr Peoples but I'm concerned I'm making it all too confusing, (it is!) so I'll leave the rest til tomorrow.

Like I posted earlier, the only Joe Peoples I could find running a business in the tiny village of St Johnston (population in 2006 - 479) is Joseph Peoples Funeral Director & a Joe Peoples - senior staff member Donegal County Council

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Re: McCanns Easter break Donegal 2007

Post  tumbleweed on Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:50 pm

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=St+Johnston,+donegal&hl=en&ll=54.934531,-7.462861&spn=0.000633,0.001742&safe=active&hnear=St+Johnston,+County+Donegal,+Ireland&t=h&z=20&vpsrc=6&layer=c&cbll=54.934531,-7.462861&panoid=mdBTm_5APWkk8OmzYsouQw&cbp=12,19.94,,0,2.42

I was very curious about this topic and did a little searching and found this. It's a "Joe's Bar" about 14k away, but not in St. Johnston and not on a corner. It clearly says "Joe's Bar" on the window, though.


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Re: McCanns Easter break Donegal 2007

Post  Marian on Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:10 pm

According to the link below, there are four bars or pubs in St Johnston!

http://www.yelp.ie/biz/fishermans-inn-st-johnston

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Re: McCanns Easter break Donegal 2007

Post  Lady-Heather on Fri Oct 14, 2011 9:08 am

From the position on the map shown in the yelp.ie link above, it appears that the closest visible pub - going by Google street view - is probably the odd little pub with the beer barrels and Guiness sign.

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Re: McCanns Easter break Donegal 2007

Post  candyfloss on Fri Oct 14, 2011 9:30 am

tumbleweed wrote:http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=St+Johnston,+donegal&hl=en&ll=54.934531,-7.462861&spn=0.000633,0.001742&safe=active&hnear=St+Johnston,+County+Donegal,+Ireland&t=h&z=20&vpsrc=6&layer=c&cbll=54.934531,-7.462861&panoid=mdBTm_5APWkk8OmzYsouQw&cbp=12,19.94,,0,2.42

I was very curious about this topic and did a little searching and found this. It's a "Joe's Bar" about 14k away, but not in St. Johnston and not on a corner. It clearly says "Joe's Bar" on the window, though.


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Re: McCanns Easter break Donegal 2007

Post  Guest on Fri Oct 14, 2011 10:00 am

The pub is called fishermanns . there is no accurat adress but there is a phonenumber.

http://www.localbusinesspages.ie/area.asp?county=Donegal&area=Saint%20Johnston

http://www.stjohnstonandcarrigans.com/joepeoplescricket.htm

Also refered to as peoples bar

People's Bar of Óstan Thóriagh

The People's Bar social scene at the hotel captures the very essence of Tory Island folklore. What you witness is not only to be seen to be believed but is every bit as genuine as the personalities of the people of Tory themselves. The social scene has not been manufactured or devised to promote a fairytale image of Tory Island for you to take home - it is Tory Island folklore.

http://www.hoteltory.com/

Found under Water, Environment & Emergency Services
His mail adress?`jpeoples@donegalcoco.ie
http://www.donegalcoco.ie/council/seniorstaff/

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Re: McCanns Easter break Donegal 2007

Post  Lady-Heather on Fri Oct 14, 2011 10:45 am

Found this too, which suggests it's called Joe's bar. I think this poor pub is going through some identity crisis:

http://www.cro.ie/search/CompanySearch.aspx

You need to type in 'number' 380962 and make sure you select the 'search for' - "Both" option.


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Post  russiandoll on Fri Oct 14, 2011 10:49 am

Get your point now ....of course it would have made perfect sense to put an up to date photo of Maddie in the public domain....it smacks of the same odd behaviour after she disappeared, releasing one where she looked much younger. I was clearly tired when I came here last night.......not to see the obvious point being made!

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Re: McCanns Easter break Donegal 2007

Post  TheTruthWillOut on Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:20 pm

I decided to compare this picture:


With Google Streetview images. I think it is interesting? We have a red painted house, "Tully Bookmakers" appears dark green with gold letters and "Edward Boyle &" is visible, and the reported date of this picture is mid-April 2007?


This picture now has the red house now painted cream/beige? The sign's letters look completely different and "Edward Boyle &" is covered. Which would all be fine except, the Grey 4X4 in the foreground is, I believe, a Nissan Quasqai which wasn't launched in the UK/Ireland until late Feb 2007.


In this picture the house is still not red. On the left hand side of the picture you will see, I believe, a white Ford Kuga 4X4, which wasn't launched in the UK/Ireland until April 2008.


A closer look at the "Tully Bookmaker" sign. The same sign and colours as the one above with the grey 4X4.

To conclude: between late Feb 2007 to at least April 2008 the Tully bookmakers and it's neighbour don't appear to have changed.

That means the photo of the children at the beginning of this post must have been either:
1, Taken before Feb 2007 or sometime after April 2008.
2, Be Photoshopped
3, Or it is the wrong location. (I don't believe this)

My money would be on number 2. But *why* Photoshop it? It just baffles me. confused

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Re: McCanns Easter break Donegal 2007

Post  Daisy on Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:32 pm

tumbleweed wrote:http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=St+Johnston,+donegal&hl=en&ll=54.934531,-7.462861&spn=0.000633,0.001742&safe=active&hnear=St+Johnston,+County+Donegal,+Ireland&t=h&z=20&vpsrc=6&layer=c&cbll=54.934531,-7.462861&panoid=mdBTm_5APWkk8OmzYsouQw&cbp=12,19.94,,0,2.42

I was very curious about this topic and did a little searching and found this. It's a "Joe's Bar" about 14k away, but not in St. Johnston and not on a corner. It clearly says "Joe's Bar" on the window, though.


Thanks tumbleweed and welcome. Yes, I agree with Lady heather, this is most likely the place, but not on a street corner hmmm. Is there anyway you can show a close up of the "Joe's Bar" sign? No probs if not, I know I couldn't.

@ Moa, I don't believe the Fisherman's Inn is the same place, nor the hotel that you linked to, that appears to be on an island.

@ Lady Heather. That link is very useful, cheers. Although I'm confused as to why 2 businesses would have the same number?

NameNumberAddressType
JOE'S BAR380962MAIN STREET ST. JOHNSTON LIFFORD CO. DONEGALB
KEVIN WALSH HAULAGE LIMITED380962CARBED CARROWMORE LACKEN BALLINA CO. MAYOC



Check out the effective date on company details, does this mean the Bar was only registered in 2009?

ypeBusiness Name
Number380962
NameJOE'S BAR
AddressMAIN STREET
ST. JOHNSTON
LIFFORD
CO. DONEGAL
Registered06/03/2009
StatusNormal

Effective date: 06/03/2009

http://www.cro.ie/search/CompanyDetails.aspx?id=380962&type=B

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