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Re: McCanns Easter break Donegal 2007

Post  Marian on Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:01 pm

Here's the link to the photo opposite the betting shop. I can't post photos either! Perhaps someone could put them side by side; thank you.

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Irland.jpg

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Re: McCanns Easter break Donegal 2007

Post  Daisy on Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:46 pm

Now dealing with the discrepencies. How many people attended the "gathering"?

Gerry & Kate McCann:

" "There were 27 of us in all and we took three cottages in Dunloe",

"Madeleine's aunt, Philomena McCann, revealed last year that 46 family and friends enjoyed the holiday in Donegal"(staying in B&B's)

27? 46? Whatever. Either way, such a huge gathering of family and close friends but only 2 photographs?

Wonder if the Paynes or any other members of the Tapas group were there?

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Re: McCanns Easter break Donegal 2007

Post  Lady-Heather on Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:51 pm

According to the mccannfiles http://www.mccannfiles.com/id226.html Jo Peoples leases a pub called The Fishermans Pub. This one is listed as being on Main St too, at http://www.travelireland.org/donegal/donegal-pubs.html . I can see the odd little building now with the Guinness sign, next to a little chapel or church? It's not on a corner though as you say, whereas the Toland pub is. All quite odd IMO!

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Re: McCanns Easter break Donegal 2007

Post  Daisy on Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:05 pm

Lady-Heather wrote:According to the mccannfiles http://www.mccannfiles.com/id226.html Jo Peoples leases a pub called The Fishermans Pub. This one is listed as being on Main St too, at http://www.travelireland.org/donegal/donegal-pubs.html . I can see the odd little building now with the Guinness sign, next to a little chapel or church? It's not on a corner though as you say, whereas the Toland pub is. All quite odd IMO!


Very odd!

Quoting Joe Peoples: "The bar hasn't got a name as such because the older people would still
call it McCann's and the younger people would call Joe's."
Read more: http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/family-visited-donegal-at-easter-13439658.html#ixzz1afdQn2yy


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Brilliant observation.

Post  tigger on Thu Oct 13, 2011 5:39 pm

Marian wrote:Here's a reminder of a photo supposedly taken on this holiday in Donegal. It didn't appear anywhere till 2008 and, in my opinion, looking at the apparent ages of the twins, that may be when it was actually taken!

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/family.jpg


There is another one from Donegal as well, unless the twins and Maddie are able to shrink like Alice in Wonderland this ain't gonna work.
Yes, so clever of you, of course this could have been taken in 2008 with either a stand-in for Maddie ( when smiling and with a similar hairdo, it's not easy to distinguish similar people) or Maddie photoshopped in, judging by the body I'd say at least 6 or 7 years old. Twins 3 - 4 yrs. That works fine.
So we have either two sets of twins and two Maddies, or we have a later date and a stand in.
Maddie is holding the icecream in a weird position, it will hit her nose by the looks of it.

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Re: McCanns Easter break Donegal 2007

Post  Marian on Thu Oct 13, 2011 6:31 pm

It seems very odd that, if these photos were really taken in 2007, only a month before Madeleine "disappeared", that they were not released then. I'm trying to visualise the face of the "tennis ball" girl and finding it hard to believe they could be the same child. The strange way that the ice cream is being held has been commented on before; it is possible with the thumbs at the back to support it but a child might find it difficult.

Now we have the puzzle over whether the McCann family pub actually exists, this is so bizarre!

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donegal photo

Post  russiandoll on Thu Oct 13, 2011 6:53 pm

i think maddie looks very like the poolside girl maybe a little older.
how do we know there arent more photos of this break? because they choose to release only one or two does not mean more are not in existence. not sure of point being made here...

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Re: McCanns Easter break Donegal 2007

Post  Daisy on Thu Oct 13, 2011 7:32 pm

Do the McCanns still have relatives in Donegal? I haven't come across one interview or quote from any family member in Ireland. It's always Mr Peoples and he's either being deliberately misquoted or he's making the story up as he goes along. He changes his mind from one interview to another (often in the same newspaper!).

"According to the current owner (Joe Peoples) of McCann's bar on the main street in the
middle of the village of St Johnston, the family were regular visitors
to the area although they no longer had relatives in Donegal."

http://www.independent.ie/world-news/europe/girls-family-were-regular-visitors-to-donegal-village-643445.html

Local publican Joe Peoples said: "They called into the pub on their way to the airport."

"I believe they spent a while in Crolly as well. They have quite a few
relations there
. They still keep very much in touch with the place
because of the family connections."

http://www.donegaldemocrat.ie/news/local/lovely_maddy_spent_easter_in_donegal_1_1983059

http://newsoutlines.blogspot.com/2007/05/maddy-cops-we-cant-be-sure-she-is-alive.html



Phil McCann: “But we still
have friends in St Johnston and we
go back a lot." (note she says 'friends' & not relatives)

: http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/donegal-town-promises-to-keep-praying-for-madeleine-14288826.html#ixzz1a1gZBlzO

Again in the Belfast Telegraph:

"The McCanns left Donegal in 1967, and Maddy’s father Gerry was born
later in England, but the family still have relatives and friends in the
county."

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/donegal-trip-too-painful-for-mccanns-13386703.html

Sorry if this info appears messy and disjointed, it's tricky trying to pull it all together in a coherent way; there's so many holes and contradictions in the the whole Donegal connection, it's not funny.

There's plenty more examples but I'll leave it there for now and go back to trying to locate this elusive Joe Peoples bar/Joe's bar/Peoples bar/Mccanns bar

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Re: McCanns Easter break Donegal 2007

Post  Daisy on Thu Oct 13, 2011 7:47 pm

russiandoll wrote:i think maddie looks very like the poolside girl maybe a little older.
how do we know there arent more photos of this break? because they choose to release only one or two does not mean more are not in existence. not sure of point being made here...


It's not merely a lack of photos though russiandoll. We have no right to demand to see private photos, I know that. (although this trip took place just 7 weeks before Madeleine disappeared and undoubtedly these would have been some of the last photos taken of her). No, it's all the other inconsistencies that are bothering me. And the fact that I can't find this bloody pub!

Edit: Sorry make that 3 weeks not 7


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Re: McCanns Easter break Donegal 2007

Post  Marian on Thu Oct 13, 2011 9:48 pm

Yes there could have been other photos taken in Donegal (nobody has suggested otherwise) but I'm surprised that it took a year to release just a couple of them. Such recent photos would have been very relevant in May 2007. There is also the problem that so few photos have been issued of the PDL holiday itself. Apart from the grainy airport mobile phone footage there are none of the whole family, not even any of the three children together and those that there are are all of very doubtful authenticity.

The mysterious Joe Peoples definitely sounds like a friend of the McCanns with his constantly changing stories.

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