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LISA IRWIN, 10 months: parents make tearful plea - AND - Aaliyah Lunsford, missing in U.S., aged 3: LATEST

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Re: LISA IRWIN, 10 months: parents make tearful plea - AND - Aaliyah Lunsford, missing in U.S., aged 3: LATEST

Post by dragonfly on 24.10.11 23:28

Ms Bradley and Mr Irwin's lawyer, Joe Tacopina, has defended his clients - saying that police claims that a cadaver dog had smelt the scent of a deceased body in their bedroom proved nothing.

'There is absolutely not a stitch of evidence in this case that there was an accidental death caused by Deborah,' he told Fox News.
He disputed that police dogs had sensed the smell of a deceased body, saying it was 'decomposing remains', which could include faecal matter.
Mr Tacopina stated that claims made against Ms Bradley had caused her 'great pain' and said there was a 'witch-hunt' against her.

Meanwhile, another lawyer for Baby Lisa's parents has spoken out to question the thoroughness of the police search in the family home.

Cyndy Short said that despite hours of intensive combing there was not much disturbance, which she told Good Morning America she found 'frankly surprising'.
Her words come she was forced to hit back at reports of police cadaver dog smelling the scent of a dead body on a bedroom floor in the house.
Miss Short said the cadaver dog development could be misleading detectives because the scent could be decades old.
She told Good Morning America: 'My understanding is that there are cold cases where dogs have hit on scents of decomposition that have been in the home for as long as 28 years.
'This is an old home - 63 years old. There could be a lot of other explanations for that.'
Mr Garrett said the dogs have a great accuracy record, adding: 'In studies done of cadaver dogs where the dog has direct access to the scent and it's reasonably fresh - it's above 90 per cent.'
On Friday it emerged that a cadaver dog got a 'positive hit' during a search at the home in Kansas City, Missouri, where the 11-month-old vanished three weeks ago.
Officers said that they removed items including a multi-coloured comforter, purple shorts, a Disney shirt, a glow warm toy, a 'Cars'-themed blanket, rolls of tape and a tape dispenser.
Ms Bradley had previously told police that her daughter was wearing purple shorts and a purple T-shirt when she put her to bed.
In the search warrant, officers indicated that Ms Bradley and Mr Irwin had restricted police access to their home.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2052957/Lisa-Irwin-missing-Photos-Baby-Lisas-bedroom-handprints-wall.html#ixzz1bk09hA7B


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Re: LISA IRWIN, 10 months: parents make tearful plea - AND - Aaliyah Lunsford, missing in U.S., aged 3: LATEST

Post by happychick on 25.10.11 7:11

TIMELINE: THE SEARCH FOR MISSING BABY LISA

October 3: Mother spotted on surveillance footage buying wine at grocery store with unidentified man. Claims she put Lisa to bed at 10:30pm.
October 4: Father arrives home at 4am to find Lisa missing from her cot
October 5: Couple plead for daughter’s safe return
October 6: Police claim parents are no longer cooperating
October 7: Landfill close to home searched for second time and mother claims she has been told she has failed a lie detector test
October 9: Police go back to home to re-enact possible abduction scenario
October 10: Drainage ditch searched near the couple’s home
October 11: Lisa’s 11-month birthday and local media are subpoenaed to hand over all interview footage of parents and friends to police
October 12: New York detective Bill Stanton says he has been hired by a private benefactor to work with parents
October 14: Anonymous donor offers $100,000 reward for the return of Lisa
October 17: Police dog smells scent of dead body in house
October 18: Mother admits she was drinking on night of disappearance
October 19: Officers carry out 17-hour search of house
October 21: Witnesses appear on TV claiming that they saw a man with a naked baby on the night Lisa disappeared



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Lisa Irwin's parents are STILL not helping the Police

Post by Gillyspot on 26.10.11 7:49

snipped "Just the thought of putting his clients in a room with police officers makes defense lawyer John Picerno nervous.

“My own view is that my clients should never talk to police,” Picerno said Tuesday. “I tell them, ‘The prisons are full of people who talked to the police. The police are going to do what they are going to do, with or without your cooperation and your statement.’ ” Still, defense lawyers and former investigators said that ongoing negotiations between police and attorneys for the parents of a missing 11-month-old girl over the conditions for more interviews are a routine part of the system."

Snipped "Police have issued public appeals to Bradley and Irwin for separate “unrestricted” interviews to follow up on issues raised at their last formal interrogation on Oct. 8. “We want to know what they have to say on their own,” Young said".

Snipped "The parents also have refused to allow police to have specially trained social workers reinterview their older children from previous relationships, boys ages 6 and 8 who were at the home when Lisa disappeared."

snipped "Tip rate slows
The investigation into Lisa Irwin’s disappearance entered its fourth week Tuesday.
So far, investigators have received 976 tips and cleared 793 of them. The rate of tips coming in has started to slow, Kansas City police said. Many calls now are from psychics or people offering suggestions for how police should conduct their investigation.

http://www.kansascity.com/2011/10/25/3229412/legal-dance-with-police-is-part.html#ixzz1brr5u36f

And now the psychic's come out to play too. Have Phil McCann and Jon Corner been giving their recommendations?

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Re: LISA IRWIN, 10 months: parents make tearful plea - AND - Aaliyah Lunsford, missing in U.S., aged 3: LATEST

Post by aiyoyo on 26.10.11 10:22

Jolhn Picemo: “I tell them, ‘The prisons are full of people who talked to the
police.
The police are going to do what they are going to do, with or
without your cooperation and your statement.’

It just goes to show the guilty will inadvertently self incriminate under questioning, hence only the guilty will refuse to talk or co-operate with the police. Using John Picemo's logic applied to the police, then by the same token, it goes without saying that "no innocent will refuse to talk to the Police with or without their defense lawyer's advice". Any parent who wants their missing child found would be desperate to help the police, not other way round.

This is just another eerie echo of mccanns case.

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Re: LISA IRWIN, 10 months: parents make tearful plea - AND - Aaliyah Lunsford, missing in U.S., aged 3: LATEST

Post by Marian on 28.10.11 18:39

An interesting report here with a tour of some of the family home - wonder where the idea for the T-shirts came from!

http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/missing-baby-cadaver-dog-picks-up-scent/6vjm238?from=

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Re: LISA IRWIN, 10 months: parents make tearful plea - AND - Aaliyah Lunsford, missing in U.S., aged 3: LATEST

Post by Daisy on 28.10.11 19:22

Still hardly any mainstream news on the other missing little girl - Aliayah Lunsford. She's been missing for over a month now. Yet there seems to be a virtual media blackout on her disappearence, and only community & online groups trying to raise her profile. Very weird.

Here's a couple of links to the latest news on Aliayah:

"At this point, officials with the FBI say there are few leads in the case."

"The FBI also said last week there was little hope that Aliayah was still alive."

http://www.wvmetronews.com/news.cfm?func=displayfullstory&storyid=48717

Folks Hope Social Media Will Keep Aliayah Lunsford's Story Alive

http://wdtv.com/index.php/home/local-news/9642-folks-hope-social-media-will-keep-aliayah-lunsfords-story-alive

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Aliayah-Lunsford/156048507817784

Latest news:Aliayah Lunsford Investigation Expands to Southern Lewis County
http://wboy.com/story.cfm?func=viewstory&storyid=111014

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Re: LISA IRWIN, 10 months: parents make tearful plea - AND - Aaliyah Lunsford, missing in U.S., aged 3: LATEST

Post by TheTruthWillOut on 02.11.11 19:42

This poor baby still hasn't been found sad I have followed this case closely from the beginning and have noticed a lot of similarity's with the McCann case with respect to the parents and familiy's behaviour and actions.


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Post by Daisy on 02.11.11 19:52

Noooo! that's surely got to be photoshopped? Do you have a link to the original source of the pic?

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Post by delly55 on 02.11.11 20:07

That looks shopped to me! Well I really hope it is!

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Post by TheTruthWillOut on 02.11.11 20:41

Sorry guy's! I have just checked the source I got the pic from (Websleuths) and it is photoshopped. They have now removed it.

I will edit my post.

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Post by Guest on 09.12.11 17:14

Lisa Irwin Case: Detective Corrects Quotes
December 08, 2011 06:10 AM EST

In the case of Lisa Irwin, it's been reported that a private investigator spoke with law enforcement about items the cadaver dogs hit to the scent of death. This article is meant to correct the numerous misquoted reports for Mr. Rugen of Rugen Team Investigations, LLC.

It was mistakenly reported by several online sources that Ron Rugen shared that he talked to law enforcement about Lisa Irwin. It was widely written that he was told about items that were removed from the home of Deborah Bradley and Jeremy Irwin. However, this is not true. Although the private investigator does have credible information his quote is actually as follows:

"A source close to law enforcement tells me that cadaver dog in the Lisa Irwin missing baby case hit on a blanket, a toy, and her clothes last reported wearing. If true, that means the fluid that secretes from the body upon death were possibly on those items."


It's great that Ron Rugen chose to provide this quote exclusively for Gather to help clear things up. It's easy to misreport details when so many sources have mixed up the actual wording.

Lisa Irwin is still missing

The little girl is still missing, but there are a lot of clues in the case for detectives to sort through. It seems that the physical search for the missing infant has ended, and the investigation is under way. Hopefully investigators find out what happened to the little girl.

Chelsea Hoffman, the author of "Ladykiller" and three other novels, can be followed and contacted directly by clicking here.

http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474980874216

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