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The McCanns Mark 1000 Days

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Re: The McCanns Mark 1000 Days

Post by vaguely1 on 27.01.10 21:22

@Autumn wrote:
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@Autumn wrote:Celebration, Big Celeb Party Bash, Star-Studded Event - whichever words you choose to descibe this sick party, it is in very bad taste.

Will they mention the many children who died in Haiti and release some lanterns in their memory?

Would it upset you if they don't?


As I do not believe the McCanns have given a second's thought to the many children who died in the Holocaust or Haiti, I have no expectations that they will save any of their lanterns to release on behalf of them.


Okay. Are you releasing lanterns for the Holocaust or Haiti then? Seems like a bit of a waste of money personally.

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Re: The McCanns Mark 1000 Days

Post by Autumn on 27.01.10 21:34

@vaguely1 wrote:
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@Autumn wrote:Celebration, Big Celeb Party Bash, Star-Studded Event - whichever words you choose to descibe this sick party, it is in very bad taste.

Will they mention the many children who died in Haiti and release some lanterns in their memory?

Would it upset you if they don't?


As I do not believe the McCanns have given a second's thought to the many children who died in the Holocaust or Haiti, I have no expectations that they will save any of their lanterns to release on behalf of them.


Okay. Are you releasing lanterns for the Holocaust or Haiti then? Seems like a bit of a waste of money personally.


This isn't about lanterns, as you well know. More about faded, washed-up 'celebs' looking for some camera time and a boost to their non-existant 'careers'.
Fiona (the hatchet) face of ULay - need I say more?

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Re: The McCanns Mark 1000 Days

Post by vaguely1 on 27.01.10 21:40

You don't want the spare lanterns I have left over from Christmas then? I could do you a cut price deal on them - throw in a couple of glow sticks.....maybe a light up toilet seat?

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Re: The McCanns Mark 1000 Days

Post by vaguely1 on 27.01.10 21:51

Actually, I don't think Christopher Biggins was there -



Autumn, these lanterns aren't going to last forever.......

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Re: The McCanns Mark 1000 Days

Post by Kololi on 27.01.10 22:47

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Mrs McCann looks dreadful and I am not meaning that in an awful "gosh that same old dress again" way. She has lost so much weight and looks tired. Mr McCann, to me, doesn't look no different at all from when they first appeared on tv when it happened.

Let's hope that those of us, myself included, who are a tadge cynical about this dinner and the whole affair have to eat humble pie and that the money raised from this odd event does good for Madeleine and the other two charities benefiting.

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Re: The McCanns Mark 1000 Days

Post by Pascal on 27.01.10 23:49

Kate McCann has lost so much weight, she looks ill and fit to break in two.

No matter what has happened, she has still lost her daughter.

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Re: The McCanns Mark 1000 Days

Post by Autumn on 28.01.10 2:34

Hi Kololi and Pascal

Wondering what your thoughts are concerning Mark William Thomas's comments about re-opening the investigation, go back to square one and examine everything in the police files in close detail? Whichever side of the camp you are in, I cannot see why anyone would not wish for this to happen - he believes the answer lies within the files and, given that there have been no developments, surely he makes a fair point?

From what I have seen of them, I believe Gerry has taken to the 'celeb' lifestyle like a duck to water - I am not being flippant when I say that I would not be surprised to see him turn up on on GMTV in the celeb Doc Slot.
As for kate, she seems to going through the motions, existing rather than living - she does not appear to be narcissistic like Gerry and has enough grasp on reality to know that her life is a sham. Kate is trapped within her own hell - there can be no release for her until she takes control.

Hope that makes some sense.

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Re: The McCanns Mark 1000 Days

Post by Cath on 28.01.10 9:58

I'm starting to doubt the answer lies in the files.
There's been too many mistakes early on during the investigation.
But it can't harm to re-open the case, as long as it's a new, fresh team. Rebelo's team was almost the same team as the initial team. They might have overlooked things twice (or triple etc.).

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Re: The McCanns Mark 1000 Days

Post by Kololi on 28.01.10 15:05

Hi Autumn
I think it wouldn't do no harm at all to re-open the investigation.

If it happened it might be wise to use an independent team with no connections to the past investigating teams or the McCanns. Of course the big question would be whether the McCanns and their holidaying pals would be willing enough to fully co-operate in whatever way the investigating team felt would be most productive. If that means that they have to take a back seat and allow the investigating team to take the lead rather than them direct and manipulate it then so be it.

It may prove useful or it could be a waste of time, money and resources. If it was the latter it would only be on a par with the efforts of the McCann's private investigation in my very humble opinion.

I do agree too that it appears that it is Kate who shows physical signs of suffering and if she is living in a living hell then maybe justice has been served in an odd sort of way. Let's hope that Madeleine's living hell doesn't or didn't last as long.

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Celebrities, if not a celebration

Post by Tony Bennett on 28.01.10 17:47

@Pascal wrote:Ok correct me if I'm wrong - who apart from the press have called this event a 'celebration'? If the McCanns have then, I'll agree, it is sick. But have they? Who are the 'stars' that make it a 'star studded event' anyway.?

Getting angry over this won't help anyone.
Well, I'm not sure that I've seen anyone actually call it a celebration.

But they sure did invite an awful lot of celebrities

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Re: The McCanns Mark 1000 Days

Post by vaguely1 on 28.01.10 18:05

Such is the nature of charity events. Pointless inviting people with no influence or no money.

And it has been called a celebration. By people on here.

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Find Madeleine Fund is not a charity

Post by Tony Bennett on 28.01.10 18:39

@vaguely1 wrote:Such is the nature of charity events. Pointless inviting people with no influence or no money.

And it has been called a celebration. By people on here.
Um, the Find Madeleine Fund is NOT a charity. It is a PRIVATE TRUST with 6 Trustees, four of whom I believe are the McCanns and relatives of theirs.

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Re: The McCanns Mark 1000 Days

Post by vaguely1 on 28.01.10 18:47

Um, it was a charity dinner. Involving two charities.

was it not?

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At least 50% did NOT go to charities

Post by Tony Bennett on 28.01.10 18:50

@vaguely1 wrote:Um, it was a charity dinner. Involving two charities. Was it not?
IF 'Missing People' and 'Missing People Europe' are charities, then it involved two charities and a private trust. The private trust got 50% of the proceeds, the other two organisations 25% each

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Re: The McCanns Mark 1000 Days

Post by vaguely1 on 28.01.10 18:53

Okay - then my point stands.

Not worth inviting unknown or penniless people to an event aimed at raising publicity and money.

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Re: The McCanns Mark 1000 Days

Post by vaguely1 on 28.01.10 18:56

registered charity 1020419 (missing people)

Missing Children Europe Winner of the EV Awards Charity of the year.


Both good charities.

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Re: The McCanns Mark 1000 Days

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Post by Tony Bennett on 28.01.10 20:30

Can you tell me what they've actually achieved?

Wasn't Stephen Gately, the bloke who died after a drunken night out with his bloke and another bloke, associated with one of them?

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Re: The McCanns Mark 1000 Days

Post by bellatrix on 28.01.10 20:50

So what if he was?

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Re: The McCanns Mark 1000 Days

Post by vaguely1 on 28.01.10 20:51

@Tony Bennett wrote:
Can you tell me what they've actually achieved?

Wasn't Stephen Gately, the bloke who died after a drunken night out with his bloke and another bloke, associated with one of them?

Are you upset with these charities purely because they benefited from the evening, or because they have been associated with a *gasp* homosexual?

I'm having difficulty working out what to attribute your curmudgeonliness to.

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More info re 'Missing People' wanted

Post by Tony Bennett on 28.01.10 21:09

@vaguely1 wrote:
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Can you tell me what they've actually achieved?

Wasn't Stephen Gately, the bloke who died after a drunken night out with his bloke and another bloke, associated with one of them?

Are you upset with these charities purely because they benefited from the evening, or because they have been associated with a *gasp* homosexual?

I'm having difficulty working out what to attribute your curmudgeonliness to.
I'm not in the least 'upset' with these charities.

I genuinely want to know what good they are doing.

Don't you know?

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Re: The McCanns Mark 1000 Days

Post by vaguely1 on 28.01.10 21:18

Yes, and I'm not going to tell you because you're grumpy.

I'm not doing grumpy tonight.

Have a cup of tea and put your feet up

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Re: The McCanns Mark 1000 Days

Post by twinkle on 28.01.10 22:47

@Autumn wrote:Hi Kololi and Pascal

Wondering what your thoughts are concerning Mark William Thomas's comments about re-opening the investigation, go back to square one and examine everything in the police files in close detail? Whichever side of the camp you are in, I cannot see why anyone would not wish for this to happen - he believes the answer lies within the files and, given that there have been no developments, surely he makes a fair point?

From what I have seen of them, I believe Gerry has taken to the 'celeb' lifestyle like a duck to water - I am not being flippant when I say that I would not be surprised to see him turn up on on GMTV in the celeb Doc Slot.
As for kate, she seems to going through the motions, existing rather than living - she does not appear to be narcissistic like Gerry and has enough grasp on reality to know that her life is a sham. Kate is trapped within her own hell - there can be no release for her until she takes control.

Hope that makes some sense.

I think it would be a great idea to re-open the case Autumn.
Like you say whichever view you take it can only help surely?
Maybe fresh eyes, without the baggage of the previous investigation, could bring new leads.
Kate is suffering, an event like this however it keeps Maddie's profile high must be extremely difficult for her to attend.

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Re: The McCanns Mark 1000 Days

Post by littlepixie on 28.01.10 23:34

@Autumn wrote:
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@vaguely1 wrote:I'm sure those charities will benefit greatly. This is good news.

Well, imo, it isn't good news that these charities feel the need to align themselves to Rothley's very own KING AND QUEEN in order to raise money.


With hindsight, I can see how my comments may have upset others and apologise for any offence caused. As stated in an earlier post, I was commenting on the McCanns' public image NOT their actions.

My brother is buried less than a stones throw from the grave of one of the Moors Murder Victims. I was there the day she was buried some 20 odd years after Brady and Hindley hid her in a secret grave. They refused for all those years to tell her family where she was buried and denied her a decent Christian burial. They couldn't even remember where they buried poor Keith Bennett.

IF the McCanns hid Maddies body and are refusing to tell where she is and are refusing her a decent burial and a death certificate then I see similarities between them and Brady and Hindley.

They are worse in some ways if guilty of the above because they were her parents.

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Re: The McCanns Mark 1000 Days

Post by bellatrix on 29.01.10 0:20

Absolutely NO similarities imo

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