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any chance of the publishers being connected?
tigger on Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:29 pm
I don't know how this works in different countries, but I imagine that it's cheaper to have translations printed and distributed by the host country so to speak. So the interviews in papers may certainly be slanted to singing from the given song sheet?
It was the same in Holland and Belgium, no hard questions, same old whine, badly translated: When Kate said 'it is a cross I have to bear' (the Tony Blair school of humility) is was translated as a 'burden' she had to bear. Quite a difference.
It was the same in Holland and Belgium, no hard questions, same old whine, badly translated: When Kate said 'it is a cross I have to bear' (the Tony Blair school of humility) is was translated as a 'burden' she had to bear. Quite a difference.
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crispyroll on Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:47 pm
Maybe it is very far fetched but I have been thinking that it is absoluteley not normal with the whole Press. It is impossible that there seems to be not one journalist left who questions the MCanns.
Could it be that the Press has been asked by the Police forces to be supportive to the McCanns so that the McCanns would go on giving interviews and sitting on TV sofas and one day they will be catched?
Could it be that the Press has been asked by the Police forces to be supportive to the McCanns so that the McCanns would go on giving interviews and sitting on TV sofas and one day they will be catched?
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Did she speak to SY?
pauline on Tue Sep 13, 2011 7:36 pm
I find it very hard to believe she spoke to SY and got such a comment.
After all there is no phone no on which you can contact the SY review team.
if she phoned, she would have been put onto the Press office. She would have got a statement that there is an ongoing review of the case which is going to take some time, and that therefore they could not comment. At best she would have got a sentence about the terms of reference.
After all there is no phone no on which you can contact the SY review team.
if she phoned, she would have been put onto the Press office. She would have got a statement that there is an ongoing review of the case which is going to take some time, and that therefore they could not comment. At best she would have got a sentence about the terms of reference.
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Re: Mccann progaganda for the german launch of Madeleine
Invinoveritas on Tue Sep 13, 2011 7:43 pm
Here we go:
Liebe Frau ....
herzlichen Dank für Ihre Mail.
Zunächst einmal möchte ich Ihnen sehr deutlich versichern, dass der stern sich bei Interviews keine Fragen vorschreiben oder verbieten lässt. Darüber hinaus gab es weder von den Eltern McCann noch von sonst irgendjemandem Vorschriften über Fragen oder Inhalte des Gesprächs.
Ich bin mir der verschiedensten Gerüchte, Vorwürfe und Anschuldigungen in diesem Fall bewusst. Auch ich recherchiere im Internet und lese Foren.
Der stern verlässt sich jedoch nicht auf Recherchen aus der Ferne. Wie schon mehrfach im Laufe der Jahre ist auch in diesem Fall ein Kollege nach Portugal gefahren. Wie bei allen anderen Reportagen sind es unsere Nachforschungen, die in die Geschichten einfließen.
Mein Kollege hat vor Ort mit mehreren portugiesischen Ermittlungsbeamten gesprochen, ebenso mit Beteiligten in Praia da Luz. Ich habe Informationen mit Beamten von Scotland Yard abgeglichen. Das eindeutige Ergebnis aller Recherchen: Es gibt im Moment keine Beweise und keine Hinweise darauf, was mit Madeleine McCann passiert ist. Das heißt, es gibt kein Wissen darüber, ob sie tot oder lebendig ist oder wer an ihrem Verschwinden beteiligt war.
Weder die portugiesischen Ermittler noch Scotland Yard hält jedoch die Eltern in irgendeiner Weise beteiligt an ihrem Verschwinden. Das Buch von Herrn Amaral wird in Portugal als wenig hilfreich angesehen, die meisten seiner Anschuldigungen entbehren jeglicher Grundlage.
Die McCanns – und das haben sie in vielen Interviews immer wieder gesagt – haben einen Fehler gemacht, als sie ihre Kinder allein in dem Ferienappartement schlafen ließen. Sie bereuen dies zutiefst. Mit dieser Schuld müssen sie leben.
Die Familie versucht, ihre Tochter wiederzufinden. Aufgeben werden sie nicht, solange es keinen Hinweis gibt auf das, was an dem 3. Juli in Praia da Luz passiert ist.
Und solange das Interesse an der Suche nach Madeleine McCann in der Öffentlichkeit vorhanden ist oder für den Fall, dass neue Hinweise ans Licht kommen, wird der stern weiter über den Fall berichten.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Cornelia Fuchs
Dr. Mrs....
Thank you for your mail.
First of all I would like to assure you very clearly that in Stern interviews we do not accept that we are not allowed to ask questions or that questions are prohibited. Alsothere were no rules on questions or content of the conversation by the McCanns nor by anyone else.
I am aware of the various rumors, allegations and accusations in this case. I also do some research into the Internet and read the forums.
The stern doeesn´t just do from a distance. Many times over the years a colleague has driven in this case to Portugal. As with all other reports and investigations, which are included in the stories.
My colleague has spoken on the ground with several Portuguese investigators, as well as with participants in Praia da Luz. I've compared information with officials from Scotland Yard. The unique result of all investigations: There is no evidence and no evidence at the moment of what happened to Madeleine McCann. This means that there is no knowledge as to whether she is alive or dead or who was involved in her disappearance.
Neither the Portuguese investigators nor Scotland Yard think that the parents are involved in her disappearance in any way whatsoever. Mr Amaral's book is considered of little help in Portugal , most of his allegations are unfounded.
The Mcanns have said again and again in many interviews - that they have made a mistake, as they left their children alone in the apartment to sleep. They regret this deeply. They have to live with this guilt.
The family are trying to find her daughter. They will not give up, as long as there is no indication on what happened on 3 July in Praia da Luz. As long as there is public interest or in the event that new information should come to light the stern will continue reporting on the case.
With kind regards
Cornelia Fuchs
does this read right crispyroll?
Liebe Frau ....
herzlichen Dank für Ihre Mail.
Zunächst einmal möchte ich Ihnen sehr deutlich versichern, dass der stern sich bei Interviews keine Fragen vorschreiben oder verbieten lässt. Darüber hinaus gab es weder von den Eltern McCann noch von sonst irgendjemandem Vorschriften über Fragen oder Inhalte des Gesprächs.
Ich bin mir der verschiedensten Gerüchte, Vorwürfe und Anschuldigungen in diesem Fall bewusst. Auch ich recherchiere im Internet und lese Foren.
Der stern verlässt sich jedoch nicht auf Recherchen aus der Ferne. Wie schon mehrfach im Laufe der Jahre ist auch in diesem Fall ein Kollege nach Portugal gefahren. Wie bei allen anderen Reportagen sind es unsere Nachforschungen, die in die Geschichten einfließen.
Mein Kollege hat vor Ort mit mehreren portugiesischen Ermittlungsbeamten gesprochen, ebenso mit Beteiligten in Praia da Luz. Ich habe Informationen mit Beamten von Scotland Yard abgeglichen. Das eindeutige Ergebnis aller Recherchen: Es gibt im Moment keine Beweise und keine Hinweise darauf, was mit Madeleine McCann passiert ist. Das heißt, es gibt kein Wissen darüber, ob sie tot oder lebendig ist oder wer an ihrem Verschwinden beteiligt war.
Weder die portugiesischen Ermittler noch Scotland Yard hält jedoch die Eltern in irgendeiner Weise beteiligt an ihrem Verschwinden. Das Buch von Herrn Amaral wird in Portugal als wenig hilfreich angesehen, die meisten seiner Anschuldigungen entbehren jeglicher Grundlage.
Die McCanns – und das haben sie in vielen Interviews immer wieder gesagt – haben einen Fehler gemacht, als sie ihre Kinder allein in dem Ferienappartement schlafen ließen. Sie bereuen dies zutiefst. Mit dieser Schuld müssen sie leben.
Die Familie versucht, ihre Tochter wiederzufinden. Aufgeben werden sie nicht, solange es keinen Hinweis gibt auf das, was an dem 3. Juli in Praia da Luz passiert ist.
Und solange das Interesse an der Suche nach Madeleine McCann in der Öffentlichkeit vorhanden ist oder für den Fall, dass neue Hinweise ans Licht kommen, wird der stern weiter über den Fall berichten.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Cornelia Fuchs
Dr. Mrs....
Thank you for your mail.
First of all I would like to assure you very clearly that in Stern interviews we do not accept that we are not allowed to ask questions or that questions are prohibited. Alsothere were no rules on questions or content of the conversation by the McCanns nor by anyone else.
I am aware of the various rumors, allegations and accusations in this case. I also do some research into the Internet and read the forums.
The stern doeesn´t just do from a distance. Many times over the years a colleague has driven in this case to Portugal. As with all other reports and investigations, which are included in the stories.
My colleague has spoken on the ground with several Portuguese investigators, as well as with participants in Praia da Luz. I've compared information with officials from Scotland Yard. The unique result of all investigations: There is no evidence and no evidence at the moment of what happened to Madeleine McCann. This means that there is no knowledge as to whether she is alive or dead or who was involved in her disappearance.
Neither the Portuguese investigators nor Scotland Yard think that the parents are involved in her disappearance in any way whatsoever. Mr Amaral's book is considered of little help in Portugal , most of his allegations are unfounded.
The Mcanns have said again and again in many interviews - that they have made a mistake, as they left their children alone in the apartment to sleep. They regret this deeply. They have to live with this guilt.
The family are trying to find her daughter. They will not give up, as long as there is no indication on what happened on 3 July in Praia da Luz. As long as there is public interest or in the event that new information should come to light the stern will continue reporting on the case.
With kind regards
Cornelia Fuchs
does this read right crispyroll?
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crispyroll on Tue Sep 13, 2011 7:54 pm
Yes it does, invinoveritas. Thank you very much for the translation!
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Re: Mccann progaganda for the german launch of Madeleine
Molly on Tue Sep 13, 2011 8:21 pm
I can't imagine that the PJ's can say anything else, innocent until proven guilty and their evidence wasn't enough to get a conviction at that time. I doubt SY can say much more either, they're at the very opening of the investigation. It's just the same story with the media everywhere, the McCann's are just controlling everyone through CR. It's almost unbearable to watch.
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crispyroll on Tue Sep 13, 2011 8:28 pm
Molly, yes it is absoluteley unbearable. If the press tell so much nonsense in this case it will do that in others cases too. I will stop reading any newspaper and magazine. It is as waste of time for me. I have to ask myself reading any article if its is true or not. No thank you.
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They're not giving sources
tigger on Tue Sep 13, 2011 8:42 pm
They talk about investigators in Portugal and 'participants' whoever they may be. Bar staff? As pointed out above, SY have no direct line and give a standard response of ongoing investigation.In fact they gave a response to MM that in a homicide investigation etc. etc. I cannot believe that all of them said there was no evidence of McCanns' involvement. If Stern reporters actually bothered to look into the matter properly, they would see there's a lot of evidence.
I do think publishers are having a hard time and need their investments promoted - perhaps CR too, has a few continental contacts?
I would think the books will have little success in these countries. Unless they can find a Hungarian paedophile to headline for a few weeks, that translation might as well be landfill.
But in the UK, even Paxman seemed to have been got at. Although he cleverly let Gerry talk most of the interview. You don't see that one often on youtube.
Basically the McCanns are like a patient the doctors don't want to get better and don't want to die, as long as they're breathing, there's money for everyone. CR, publishers, newspapers, you name it.
I do think publishers are having a hard time and need their investments promoted - perhaps CR too, has a few continental contacts?
I would think the books will have little success in these countries. Unless they can find a Hungarian paedophile to headline for a few weeks, that translation might as well be landfill.
But in the UK, even Paxman seemed to have been got at. Although he cleverly let Gerry talk most of the interview. You don't see that one often on youtube.
Basically the McCanns are like a patient the doctors don't want to get better and don't want to die, as long as they're breathing, there's money for everyone. CR, publishers, newspapers, you name it.
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Re: Mccann progaganda for the german launch of Madeleine
Invinoveritas on Tue Sep 13, 2011 9:08 pm
tigger , I translated Beteiligte as participants, I think a better word is "the involved"
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Re: Mccann progaganda for the german launch of Madeleine
jd on Tue Sep 13, 2011 9:22 pm
crispyroll wrote:Molly, yes it is absoluteley unbearable. If the press tell so much nonsense in this case it will do that in others cases too. I will stop reading any newspaper and magazine. It is as waste of time for me. I have to ask myself reading any article if its is true or not. No thank you.
If there is money to be made then the press will go with the story, they are not interested if it is a lie or not, bit like Carter Ruck will represent anything so long as they get paid their huge rates. People like Clarence Mitchell or Max Clifford will back and support anyone who will give them the publicity in the media and the money. I personally think Mitchell had enough though after the hoax India sighting sham. Papers like NOTW used to set up stories (some very big ones) if they felt the story would sell & continue to sell and all parties gained financially, usually at the cost of some poor innocent being. Normally the truth in each story is very simple but the confusion and conspiracy keeps it alive and money continued to be made for everyone
the McCanns should be take this lie detector test:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14900800
The number of times the McScams blink in interviews starts me off. And when the big lie is said then they have the half a second eyelid close
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