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Is everybody feeling positive about tomorrow?

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Re: Is everybody feeling positive about tomorrow?

Post by Still Here on 11.01.10 21:32

According to some people, the reason for GA keeping certain information to himself was to ensure that the outcome of any future investigations would not be affected.

Let's be honest, this case has gone nowhere for over two-and-half years. It has been screaming out for factual evidence. What has been the holdup? For goodness sake, let's hear the truth over the next few days.

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Re: Is everybody feeling positive about tomorrow?

Post by Autumn on 11.01.10 22:00

@Still Here wrote:According to some people, the reason for GA keeping certain information to himself was to ensure that the outcome of any future investigations would not be affected.

Let's be honest, this case has gone nowhere for over two-and-half years. It has been screaming out for factual evidence. What has been the holdup? For goodness sake, let's hear the truth over the next few days.

I think we would all like to hear the truth, which is exactly why we must all hope that justice prevails and Senor Amaral is allowed to tell the world 'The Truth About The Lie'.
You ask why the holdup - I think that the 'Article by Paulo Sargento' thread may provide you with the answer.

Best Wishes for tomorrow to a courageous man, Goncalo Amaral thumbsup

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Re: Is everybody feeling positive about tomorrow?

Post by Patientlywaiting on 11.01.10 23:16

I am positive about tomorrow. Nothing can excuse and there is no fundament for the couple´s demand to stop the aknowledgement, circulation, distribution and sale of Gonçalo Amaral´s book.
Of course, the book is not good to these parents and they prefer GA to be quiet, the same their utterly negligent attitude of leaving the children alone was not good AT ALL for Madeleine and SHE also would prefer them to be QUIET AT HOME KEEPING THEIR CHILDREN SAFE.
THE HUGE DIFFERENCE HERE is that the parents can sue, can threaten, can show their unpleasentness for the outcoming of a tragedy which IS THEIR OWN FAULT. Madeleine can´t. And, not satisfied because their daughter couldn´t have voice in the mess they did, they also want to shut up all the ones who have been trying to give her voice, simply seeking the truth about what happened that bloody night of the 3rd May 07.

So, I am positive about tomorrow. I wish I could be the same positive about the strongness of the proof I am hoping and waiting GA to have. So strong and factual that should be the piece master to frame these parents and put them answering all the questions they were never able to answer.
This is my best wish for the near time about this case, because the book, IMO, will go on being sold and known. Freedom of speech will win in court. Anyway, unlike the parents that seem to be more worried with the irrelevant or acessory, I hope more: The factual truth. The relevant on this case.

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Re: Is everybody feeling positive about tomorrow?

Post by Pascal on 11.01.10 23:22

@Still Here wrote:According to some people, the reason for GA keeping certain information to himself was to ensure that the outcome of any future investigations would not be affected.

Let's be honest, this case has gone nowhere for over two-and-half years. It has been screaming out for factual evidence. What has been the holdup? For goodness sake, let's hear the truth over the next few days.

Oh yes please.

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Re: Is everybody feeling positive about tomorrow?

Post by Guest on 11.01.10 23:26

It will indeed be a very dangerous road that the Portugues will embark on if Mr Amaral loses tomorrow. Who has the right to tell another country to ban one it's citizens books, sold in their own country, when it hasn't even been sold in this country. Moreover, a book that was on sale for over a year, which they claim they never read. A very dangerous precedent indeed. Therefore I hope and pray and send all good wishes to Mr Amaral for tomorrow.

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Re: Is everybody feeling positive about tomorrow?

Post by Ruby on 12.01.10 0:07

@vaguely1 wrote:I think that Portugal is mentioned in Tony's OP.

If not it's mentioned somewhere. Not PDL specifically.

I'd never seen the two linked before, until your post on page 1.

Is this an official link being given??

Found this:

down’s syndrome woman names paedophile ring
Hollie tells police she was abused by sheriff
Published: 18/11/2009


Anne Greig with daughter Hollie when she was a youngster
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Grampian Police have reinterviewed a disabled woman who claims she was abused as a child by an Aberdeen paedo-phile ring which included a senior police officer and a leading Scottish sheriff.

Hollie Greig, 29, who has Down’s Syndrome, claims she was abused for 14 years from the age of six, and has given police the names of some of the men she says assaulted her.

Hollie and her mother, Anne, have been campaigning since 2000 when police were first informed of the alleged abuse, for criminal proceedings to be taken against those she says were involved.

The abuse is alleged to have taken place in Aberdeen, and Hollie and her mother claim to have made a statement at Bucksburn police station in July 2000 naming a senior police officer, who has since died, and a sheriff who still serves.

The Press and Journal knows the identities of both men but has decided not to make them public at this stage.

No charges have ever been brought, although Hollie received £13,500 compensation from the Criminal Injuries Compensation Authority in April this year.

It is understood that followed evidence from a Grampian detective inspector who described Hollie as “a truthful witness to the best of her ability and an entirely innocent victim”.

Last night, Mrs Greig, 58, said her daughter has had nightmares and suffered panic attacks since she first told her mother about the alleged abuse nine years ago.

“We’ve been battling this for a long time now and we are angry with the way things were handled right from the start,” she said.

“We were practically forced out of our home in Aberdeen and fled to Shropshire when this whole thing came to light. During these past nine years myself and Hollie have been called liars and had to put up with constant insults but we will continue to fight despite the endless brick walls we hit.”

Mrs Greig said she ordered two psychological reports on Hollie to dismiss claims she had invented the allegations.

“Hollie was asked to draw pictures and describe sexual acts to see if there was any signs she might be lying.

“Both reports, carried out by two separate doctors, came back saying that 100% she was telling the truth and had been sexually abused.”

Mrs Greig said Hollie’s campaign would continue until justice has been done. “All Hollie wants is justice. She says this has ruined her childhood. She doesn’t trust anyone and I’m the only person she can be around for any length of time.”

Mrs Greig said two officers from Grampian Police visited Hollie in September and spent three-and-a-half hours interviewing her at a special facility in Shrewsbury.

Hollie and her mother, who moved to Shropshire to escape the alleged abuse, have enlisted a group of high-profile supporters, including, it is understood, singer Annie Lennox, to support their demand for a prosecution.

Mrs Greig claims that two of the alleged abusers moved to Portugal a number of years ago and that she went to her local police station in Shrewsbury to pass on that information when news broke of the kidnapping of Madeleine McCann.

Madeleine, who was three at the time, was kidnapped from her family’s holiday apartment at Praia da Luz, in the Algarve, in 2006. Police believe she was taken by a paedophile.


One of Hollie’s supporters wrote to the Crown Office in Edinburgh earlier this year querying the decision not to prosecute and received a reply from Andrew McIntyre, Head of Victims and Diversity, setting out the criteria for determining whether to bring charges.

His reply suggested that, in Hollie’s case, the decision was based on the lack of independent corroboration. Mr McIntyre gave an assurance that police were continuing to investigate “aspects of the case” and said that the ongoing inquiries prevented him from commenting further.

Grampian Police last night confirmed the force was investigating an allegation of historic sex abuse.

A Crown Office spokes-woman said late last night: "We have not received any report from the police.

“If we do receive a report it will be carefully considered in due course."



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Re: Is everybody feeling positive about tomorrow?

Post by aliberte2 on 12.01.10 1:14

I Don'T Know What to Think about Tomorrow. I wish Dr. Amaral the Absolute Best of Luck. It is a Free Speech Issue and the McCanns were wrong to Try and Stop the Book.

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Re: Is everybody feeling positive about tomorrow?

Post by Cath on 12.01.10 8:35

Inyx wrote:
@Ruby wrote:
candyfloss wrote:
@Autumn wrote:Trying to stay positive too but, having also lost faith in the justice system, all we can do is hope and pray that Mr Amaral has a fair hearing and justice prevails. Does anyone know what time the hearing is due to start?

Hi Autumn, last time it was supposed to start at 10 - 10.30ish, so I would think it might probably be around the same time. Just me guessing though.

I have heard 9:30 Portuguese time (if that is different to UK) from a friend in PT.

I've found it and it's indeed 9:30 Portuguese time, that's 10:30 UK time

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=nl&sl=pt&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Faeiou.visao.pt%2Fmadeleine-casal-mccann-presente-no-julgamento-de-proibicao-de-venda-de-livro-de-goncalo-amaral%3Df543725

Sh!t. Sorry I messed that up.

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/

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