Why were both Murat's and Gerry McCann's mobiles switched off for the SAME 32 hours on 2 and 3 May 2007?

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Re: Why were both Murat's and Gerry McCann's mobiles switched off for the SAME 32 hours on 2 and 3 May 2007?

Post  DCB1 on Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:42 am

There is a lot of information about phone and texts here: http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/PJ/PHONE_TEXTS.htm

Scroll nearly down to the bottom and arbiter says this:

"This is where I think we are:

May 2nd
Gerry had his phone switched off all day until probably 15.50
Vodapone his phone receives the 12 SMS messages stacked up for him on the network.
The last one of those was a "2 hourly" Voicemail reminder of previous new voicemails.
The other 11 are "new voice mail" alerts.
Gerry was left 11 voicemail calls from between 08.07 to 13.59
Some of them only minutes apart e.g. 9.10 - 9.13 - 9.18
Gerry rang his Voicemail using 91121 at 15.50
He listened briefly for 11 seconds and ended the call
He switched his phone off
He still had Voicemail he hadn't listened to
He was sent more "2 hourly" reminders
He switched his phone on again at 20.14 and rang his voicemail on 91121
Again it was a short duration, but no more reminders were sent him after this
He must have deleted them

So I believe that Gerry was got 11 voicemail messages on the morning of 2nd May.

He said he got calls from work, but I don't think he ever said these were calls from work."

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Re: Why were both Murat's and Gerry McCann's mobiles switched off for the SAME 32 hours on 2 and 3 May 2007?

Post  vaguely on Fri Jan 08, 2010 11:16 am

so does that mean they weren't off for the same 32 hours?

Also, does your phone register as off when the battery is flat and on again as soon as it's charged??

In relation to mobile phone records - certainly used to be the case that the owner of the phones consent made no difference to police obtaining them. The police still have to go through quite a lengthy procedure to get hold of the records. Not sure if this has changed.

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Re: Why were both Murat's and Gerry McCann's mobiles switched off for the SAME 32 hours on 2 and 3 May 2007?

Post  Perelli on Fri Jan 08, 2010 11:51 am

All the telephone activity is on Pamalam’s site.

According to the Ping Charts these are the times when the mobile phone belonging to Dr. Gerald McCann was activated on the 2nd May 2007:

Before 3.49.05 the phone was activated at 11 different times, then at

15.50.38
17.49.26
19.49.34
20.14.30

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z10/rangeeni/phonemapAP13344.jpg

3rd May

No activation until 12.24.40 then at
21.14.49
23.17.04
23.40.00
23.52.18

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z10/rangeeni/phonemapAP13345.jpg

All of the activations took place in PDL, there are times when the phone was not activated but that doesn’t mean that it was “turned off” though, does it?

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Re: Why were both Murat's and Gerry McCann's mobiles switched off for the SAME 32 hours on 2 and 3 May 2007?

Post  vaguely on Fri Jan 08, 2010 12:06 pm

I don't know. I'm sure 'turned off' probably encompasses more than someone physically turning their phone off.

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Post  noirtopic on Fri Jan 08, 2010 12:14 pm

vaguely wrote:I don't know. I'm sure 'turned off' probably encompasses more than someone physically turning their phone off.


I would of thought it could, what do we know about the signal to mobiles around the MW complex? There could be areas where mobiles cant be used and everything will then automatically go to voice mail.

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Re: Why were both Murat's and Gerry McCann's mobiles switched off for the SAME 32 hours on 2 and 3 May 2007?

Post  vaguely on Fri Jan 08, 2010 12:20 pm

Which is why it's both leading and difficult to take someone's phone records in isolation and either read things in to them, or write things off based on what little information there is.

I think that there were recommendations made about what needed to be checked out in relation to the phone records, and it appears that this has been done to no great conclusion.

People add their own thoughts and theories in to a lot of this stuff and now I'm not sure if the recommendations were made by a phone expert or a forum member. (on the link given by DCB)

I wish people would stop presenting things as 'fact' and adding their own spin on them. It makes evidence useless.

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Re: Why were both Murat's and Gerry McCann's mobiles switched off for the SAME 32 hours on 2 and 3 May 2007?

Post  mark on Fri Jan 08, 2010 12:40 pm

'So where is the proof to show the thread has any credibility?

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Re: Why were both Murat's and Gerry McCann's mobiles switched off for the SAME 32 hours on 2 and 3 May 2007?

Post  WhatsinaName on Fri Jan 08, 2010 12:48 pm

Do I get it right the phones weren't BOTH turned off for the same 32 hours?
What's the significance if they were?

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Re: Why were both Murat's and Gerry McCann's mobiles switched off for the SAME 32 hours on 2 and 3 May 2007?

Post  vaguely on Fri Jan 08, 2010 12:51 pm

No, I think from the records that GMs was turned back on.

Not certain.

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Post  noirtopic on Fri Jan 08, 2010 1:18 pm

From the records GMs was switched back on.

We have no signal for Orange in our backroom and everything goes straight to voice mail. Also it depends on the network, some are better than others.

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