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Briton Michael Garveigh accused in US of impersonating MI5 agent

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Post by kikoraton on 24.09.11 12:36

"your comment was made without any malice"
Thank you, Stella. That is for certain.

I've wrestled for some days now with the conundrum: if the McCs didn't go on a normal family holiday and happen to lose a child, then within a very few hours dream up a way-out, and get away with it..........................
but on the other hand if they had a certain person helping them manipulate the creche records within 20 hours of arrival, and another supplying a substitute called Mad'lene, which is what I firmly believe, then WHO WERE THEIR CO-CONSPIRATORS? Was there any link that tied them all together? A business project based on remunerative medical/pharmaceutical research, or on the terrible demand for child-pornography? Or freemason loyalty? Or murky political favours?

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Post by kikoraton on 25.09.11 19:53

No ideas? Well, Cheshire Cat and Stella are doing terrific work on making sense out of the guest-lists for the OC. Have a look at their thread (CC's, I think, although there are two for deeper study). We've always known there were a high number of (a) medics and research types and (b) finance/banking types there. Just coincidence, that these two professions love the pleasures of the OC? Perhaps, or perhaps not. Some of them, you would think, would be more at home in a 5***** hotel or resort, than in the OC.
It was a pre-Bank Holiday week. A week away, plus a long weekend to throw off the travel-tiredness and do the washing. And Gerry did say, did he not, that he wasn't there to enjoy himself? So quite possibly it was a working week, with a chance for families to relax while the professionals attended conferences, brain-storming sessions etc. Possibly, but we can't be certain.
In any case, what happened to Madeleine could be unconnected with the "conference". Even if she suffered from a long-standing condition which was the cause of her medical records not being released, it doesn't mean that she was the object of some clinical study connected with the "conference", and that that in turn led to her death.
So my tentative conclusion, would be that the McCs took advantage of the "conference" (still in quotations because we're not sure it happened) to do their own thing, which IMO involved a pre-meditated death/disappearance of Maddie, followed immediately on the morning of 29 April by the deception process which required Robert Naylor's and another person's help in the falsification of the creche records.
And furthermore, equally IMO, it needed Robert Murat to be present to allow his mobile and landline phones to be used, in an apparently innocent fashion, to carry out the communications needed for the cover-up and removal of Maddie's body.

ETA: I'll copy this to a more appropriate thread. I did it here because I was still fretting about who, exactly, were the McCs co-conspirators. OK?

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Post by worriedmum on 31.01.14 22:59

Just bumping this,not seen it before now, I have just seen it on Kikoratton's page ...

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Post by haroldd2 on 31.01.14 23:34

@kikoraton wrote:So the Michael Garveigh whose case was discussed in the Times in 2009 (well picked up by Gillyspot), was indeed the correct age for the son of  John Garveigh. Sounds like you got your man, Gillyspot!
And John Garveigh is not his name by birth. He's the son of Goldmann and Zimmermann xxxxxx. But so tewwibly British sounding, nowadays!!
I shall have to dust off my xxxxxxx theory which I quickly put aside, feeling ashamed of it. But now we have Oppenheimer, Goldmann - any others, or shall I put it back in the box again?
No, don't do that! Take a look at Mark Adrian Chitty and Andrew Donald Searle and some of their fellow directors on the companies they are or have been directors of.

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Post by worriedmum on 01.02.14 0:01

Harold,not sure what I am meant to be looking for, is there something you want to point out?

I did find this video which I don't remember seeing before

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpUgjZoO5y0  the commentary beneath surprised me.



Also,what is Kate doing?Is that an ATM?

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Post by Rasputin on 01.02.14 6:09

Sadly I'm getting a validation error on the above link , anyone else having difficulty with it?

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Post by Guest on 01.02.14 11:15

I can see the video but there's no commentary beneath.

Worriedmum, what did it say?

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Post by Silver Shuffle on 01.02.14 11:31

Director and founder of Mark Warner Holidays and close friend of the McCanns Mark Chitty checks Kate McCanns bag as both she and Gerry McCann prepare to leave the relative safety of the Ocean Club compound.

Mark Chitty made himself indispensible to the McCanns as their sometime escort and bodyguard during the McCanns extended stay at his companies holiday camp. The McCanns were not charged by Mark Warner Holidays for their overstay accomodation or for their food and neither were the McCanns charged for any of the intensive childcare facilites the McCanns made use of after Maddies disappearence.

Mark Chitty ensured a regular supply of luxury saloons - usually Mercedes estates - were always on hand to transport the McCanns to their police appointments in Portimao.

The McCanns made several trips from the Ocean Club to rendezvous at one or other of the several villas belonging to their friends who lived in and around the town of Luz.

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Post by Silver Shuffle on 01.02.14 11:32

the above was under the Video...

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Post by Guest on 01.02.14 11:37

Thanks for that - the weird thing is that the commentary is there now for me on the YouTube link but there was absolutely nothing the first time!

I wonder if the McCanns knew "close friend" Mark Chitty before the holiday.......no wonder they lingered on in PDL (like the smell of sea bass?) if it's true that they were getting everything for nothing.

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Post by Silver Shuffle on 01.02.14 11:40

I would suppose Mark Chitty would have wanted to do "damage Limitation".... which seeing the latest reports, hasn't been very successful. Wonder who the friends in the Villas were, and they always had Transport.

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Post by Guest on 01.02.14 12:15

Mark Chitty provided the transport too according to the commentary.

I can think of one person with a villa in PDL - a certain solicitor - but officially he didn't meet the McCanns until after they'd left the country.

I don't recall them ever saying they have friends in the area.

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Post by Woofer on 01.02.14 12:34

@Silver Shuffle wrote:I would suppose Mark Chitty would have wanted to do "damage Limitation".... which seeing the latest reports, hasn't been very successful. Wonder who the friends in the Villas were, and they always had Transport.

Yes, that makes sense - but why check her bag?  That`s weird.

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Post by Newintown on 01.02.14 12:43

@Woofer wrote:
@Silver Shuffle wrote:I would suppose Mark Chitty would have wanted to do "damage Limitation".... which seeing the latest reports, hasn't been very successful. Wonder who the friends in the Villas were, and they always had Transport.

Yes, that makes sense - but why check her bag?  That`s weird.

A "listening in" device or whatever they're called, maybe?   But I don't know who would have planted it besides the police, the police would have had to have access to the McCanns' baggage, which probably would have been difficult.

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Post by Guest on 01.02.14 12:49

I was about to say that, Newintown.

I can't think of any other reason why Kate would have agreed to have her bag checked like lesser mortals.

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Post by Lance De Boils on 01.02.14 13:58

Was he definitely checking her bag, or could he have been putting something into her bag?

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Post by worriedmum on 01.02.14 18:07

Or did it mean 'check' as in 'check in'?

IS that an ATM in the white building? Kate has something small and black in her hand before she walks around the car to get in it.

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Post by j.rob on 20.02.15 18:41

@Silver Shuffle wrote:Director and founder of Mark Warner Holidays and close friend of the McCanns Mark Chitty checks Kate McCanns bag as both she and Gerry McCann prepare to leave the relative safety of the Ocean Club compound.

Mark Chitty made himself indispensible to the McCanns as their sometime escort and bodyguard during the McCanns extended stay at his companies holiday camp. The McCanns were not charged by Mark Warner Holidays for their overstay accomodation or for their food and neither were the McCanns charged for any of the intensive childcare facilites the McCanns made use of after Maddies disappearence.

Mark Chitty ensured a regular supply of luxury saloons - usually Mercedes estates - were always on hand to transport the McCanns to their police appointments in Portimao.

The McCanns made several trips from the Ocean Club to rendezvous at one or other of the several villas belonging to their friends who lived in and around the town of Luz.

Amazing how child abuse/neglect can land you all sorts of freebies not to mention public funding.

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