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Who is this girl?

Post by ufercoffy on 12.07.11 10:33



Just found this photo of a little girl with Madeleine and wonder who she is.

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Re: Who is this girl?

Post by MrsC on 12.07.11 10:44

That little girl is Madeline O'Brien, a child actress, she played Amanda MCready in Gone Baby Gone.

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Post by ufercoffy on 12.07.11 11:44

Thank you MrsC thumbsup


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Post by lj on 12.07.11 15:13

Oh mrsC that's a scary avatar!!

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Post by ufercoffy on 12.07.11 15:15

@lj wrote:Oh mrsC that's a scary avatar!!

What's scary, lj, is that it morphed from Bet Lynch into Kate McCann affraid

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Post by lj on 12.07.11 15:18

spit coffee spit coffee

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Post by MrsC on 12.07.11 16:31

@ufercoffy wrote:
@lj wrote:Oh mrsC that's a scary avatar!!

What's scary, lj, is that it morphed from Bet Lynch into Kate McCann affraid

It's always a pleasure and so heartwarming to see someone enjoying life to the full, with not a care in the world - poor Bet just had to make way for it.

I can't understand why Mrs McCann wanted this fabulous pic removed from the public domain!?

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Post by ufercoffy on 12.07.11 16:37

@MrsC wrote:I can't understand why Mrs McCann wanted this fabulous pic removed from the public domain!?

Indeed.

It's no worse than this one is it?



So Kate burst into laughter when promoting her book about her missing daughter, and here she beams at the thought of Madeleine's online shop bearing good quality wristbands.

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Post by lj on 12.07.11 17:13

exalt $$$$$$ exalt

The difference between the photos is that esp Katey learnt that it pays to whine and sulk.

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the one on the right

Post by tigger on 12.08.11 17:55

@ufercoffy wrote:

Just found this photo of a little girl with Madeleine and wonder who she is.

The one on the right is supposed to be Madeleine, but is one of those I really doubt. The coloboma is duly shopped in though. But I still don't think that's Maddie.
There is yet another one that everyone seems to believe, there are two Everton shirt photos. Two different girls, I swear. The other, blonder girl has a very knowing sort of smile, she freaks me out actually, she looks like a mini-woman who's a little too worldly.

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Post by Daisy on 12.08.11 19:45

I know exactly what you mean tigger. 'Madeleine' has many different looks. I don't believe the photos are all of the same girl either. And yes, 'Madeleine' has been clearly sexualised in some of the pics; the lollipop one doesn't appear like any three year old that I've ever known.

I've taken hundreds of photos of my children/grandchildren, more so the grandchildren. I've captured their whole childhoods thus far, and of course they change, but I can still recognise them, I can still see the same child, not so with the Madeleine pics.

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Post by Miraflores on 12.08.11 21:16

[quote="tigger"]
@ufercoffy wrote:



The one on the right is supposed to be Madeleine, but is one of those I really doubt. The coloboma is duly shopped in though. But I still don't think that's Maddie.


Personally I do think that the one on the right is Madeleine - you can see the resemblance to Kate clearly - but as she is as a nearly 4 year old rather than the just 3 year old picture which we normally see. I also think that she does have a fleck/coloboma/whatever in her eye, and those photos you see without it are the ones which have been photoshopped. Why the McCanns did this, is something of a mystery to me, if they really wanted their daughter to be found. Of course, such old photos are now irrelevant.

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Re: Who is this girl?

Post by jd on 12.08.11 21:23

Im confused with this topic. The child on the left is clearly not Maddie and someone has said that little girl on the left is Madeline O'Brien, a child actress, she played Amanda MCready in Gone Baby Gone.

Was the picture on the left published by the Mccanns at some point as a pic of Maddie?

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Re: Who is this girl?

Post by Guest on 12.08.11 21:40

@Daisy wrote:I know exactly what you mean tigger. 'Madeleine' has many different looks. I don't believe the photos are all of the same girl either. And yes, 'Madeleine' has been clearly sexualised in some of the pics; the lollipop one doesn't appear like any three year old that I've ever known.

I've taken hundreds of photos of my children/grandchildren, more so the grandchildren. I've captured their whole childhoods thus far, and of course they change, but I can still recognise them, I can still see the same child, not so with the Madeleine pics.

I agree with you, Daisy. Of them all that's the one that deeply disturbs me.


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Post by Daisy on 12.08.11 23:27

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@Daisy wrote:I know exactly what you mean tigger. 'Madeleine' has many different looks. I don't believe the photos are all of the same girl either. And yes, 'Madeleine' has been clearly sexualised in some of the pics; the lollipop one doesn't appear like any three year old that I've ever known.

I've taken hundreds of photos of my children/grandchildren, more so the grandchildren. I've captured their whole childhoods thus far, and of course they change, but I can still recognise them, I can still see the same child, not so with the Madeleine pics.

I agree with you, Daisy. Of them all that's the one that deeply disturbs me.


Exactly Molly, anybody tuned into symbolism will see how very wrong this picture is. It's coming to something when the most subtle part is the eye liner & lipstick.

And why would she have a lollipop and giant cornetto at the same time?

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Re: Who is this girl?

Post by ROSA on 12.08.11 23:38

A sexy 3 yr old?

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Madeleine on the right?

Post by tigger on 13.08.11 9:05

[quote="Miraflores"]
@tigger wrote:
@ufercoffy wrote:



The one on the right is supposed to be Madeleine, but is one of those I really doubt. The coloboma is duly shopped in though. But I still don't think that's Maddie.


Personally I do think that the one on the right is Madeleine - you can see the resemblance to Kate clearly - but as she is as a nearly 4 year old rather than the just 3 year old picture which we normally see. I also think that she does have a fleck/coloboma/whatever in her eye, and those photos you see without it are the ones which have been photoshopped. Why the McCanns did this, is something of a mystery to me, if they really wanted their daughter to be found. Of course, such old photos are now irrelevant.

A few months ago, in an interview with Piers Morgan, Gerry M. stated clearly that the coloboma didn't exist, just a fleck which you could only see when you are very close. I'm afraid you've got it wrong, all the ones with the coloboma are photoshopped.
I have my doubts about this picture because the right half of her face is much fatter than the left. Her right eye looks swollen and lower than the left eye. In fact, the little girl looks ill. the expression on her face worries me too. She looks sad and the smile is rather sad too.

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Post by Miraflores on 13.08.11 9:41

A few months ago, in an interview with Piers Morgan, Gerry M. stated clearly that the coloboma didn't exist, just a fleck which you could only see when you are very close. I'm afraid you've got it wrong, all the ones with the coloboma are photoshopped.
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have my doubts about this picture because the right half of her face is
much fatter than the left. Her right eye looks swollen and lower than
the left eye. In fact, the little girl looks ill. the expression on her
face worries me too. She looks sad and the smile is rather sad too.
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We are going to have to agree to disagree here tigger. It's only recently that the McCanns have started denying the coloboma. As for faces being asymmetrical - well mine is too, and one of my eyes is lower than the other. That's quite normal, I think.

Perhaps Piers Morgan was primed to ask this question, so that the denial of the coloboma could be worked in? And we are all so stupid of course that we will immediately forget all those 'look' posters.

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Post by Marian on 13.08.11 10:03

I was about to say that this image of Madeleine (the one on the right of course) is one of the most natural ones I've seen, far removed from those in make-up and posing provocatively. However, the coloboma which she didn't have is clearly showing (you need to enlarge the image) so it's not as nature intended after all!

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Post by Miraflores on 13.08.11 10:46

However, the
coloboma which she didn't have is clearly showing (you need to enlarge
the image) so it's not as nature intended after all!

That's the problem - the waters have been so muddied that we don't know whether Madeleine had a coloboma or not.

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Post by juliet on 13.08.11 12:13

In that weird photo of the child with icecream, the hand is not linked to the arm. The angle is all wrong



And that arm looks like a woman's, not a child's.



There are so many photos which are quite sinister. Don't the McCanns see that?

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Post by tigger on 13.08.11 12:23

@Miraflores wrote:
However, the
coloboma which she didn't have is clearly showing (you need to enlarge
the image) so it's not as nature intended after all!

That's the problem - the waters have been so muddied that we don't know whether Madeleine had a coloboma or not.

She didn't, I knew that long before that interview and so did quite a few others. The little film where she's biting her lip, if you enlarge it, no coloboma, but in the still photograph on their own site you can't miss it. It's much more difficult to photoshop a digital film.
Not only that, the coloboma moves around, sometimes at 6 o'clock, then again at 7. All impossible. The coloboma had a function: they wouldn't need to see children themselves for them to be eliminated from any enquiry.
Now, I think they're playing it down because they need lots of sightings to keep the public interested. See the Leh sighting in India.
How would the fund keep going otherwise?

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I think you've got it.

Post by tigger on 13.08.11 12:31

@juliet wrote:In that weird photo of the child with icecream, the hand is not linked to the arm. The angle is all wrong



And that arm looks like a woman's, not a child's.



There are so many photos which are quite sinister. Don't the McCanns see that?

Yes, I think that's not a child's arm, photoshopped again to get the cornet in and enhance the pose. Tell tale fat on upper arm, impossible in a child of 3/4.

I've always been amazed at how they don't see it.
Kate has seen fit to publish the blue eyeshadow picture even in the byewk! first she said it was 'after Madeleine had raided her make up box'. Well, that didn't go down so well with other mothers of 3 yr. olds. No way would a child get make up on like that.
In the book it's changed to: 'a professional beautician who was visiting did it'.

I'm just wondering if some of this protection they've got comes from publishing photographs which are familiar to some people. A message to say what?
Maddie is wearing make-up in so many photographs - it really is creepy.

If SY is worth their salt, they'll have an expert on this sort of thing.


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Post by Guest on 13.08.11 12:36

Hi tigger,

[quote tigger]
In the book it's changed to: 'a professional beautician who was visiting did it'.

I hadn't heard this before, is it possible for you to put up the relevant bit from the book?

Why would a professional beautician visit, perhaps for the docu in the house?

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I'll try.

Post by tigger on 13.08.11 12:47

candyfloss wrote:Hi tigger,

[quote tigger]
In the book it's changed to: 'a professional beautician who was visiting did it'.

I hadn't heard this before, is it possible for you to put up the relevant bit from the book?

Why would a professional beautician visit, perhaps for the docu in the house?

I will try, don't have the book of course. But can only get it in reference library here. It'll be about Tuesday.

There was quite a reaction when that photo first got published and I expect she had some advice, hence in the change in the book. But why have that in the book at all? When she knows it is not liked by the public. And NO photographs from PdL (because too many people would be pointing out traces of photoshopping and too many would see that the pool girl and the tennis girl cannot be contemporary?).

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