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Post by PeterMac on 07.07.11 15:45

p.298 “You’ll recall that, back in October [2007] we had supplied the Portuguese public prosecutor with a list of people from whom we felt statements should have been taken. In response the Portuguese police had decided to come to Leicester to be present while the British police interviewed Fiona, Dave, Russ, Matt Rachael and Dianne, as well as many other individuals whose testimony had never been sought. The questions to be asked were those Gerry and I had suggested to the prosecutor (obvious and pertinent ones, I hasten to add), with a few additions from the PJ."

This was October 2007.
The McCanns were arguidos from 7 September 2007 until 21 July 2008.
Can we believe that the principal suspects in a case would have had contact of any sort with the prosecutor, let alone suggesting questions, or that he, or the PJ would have taken the slightest notice of them ?
Do we have a list of the "many other individuals".

The next paragraph is telling. “It just so happened that the PJ’s trip to the UK coincided with our visit to Brussels.“ You bet it did.

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Post by ufercoffy on 07.07.11 15:50

@PeterMac wrote:Can we believe that the principal suspects in a case would have had contact of any sort with the prosecutor, let alone suggesting questions, or that he, or the PJ would have taken the slightest notice of them

Yes Sir, I do believe it. These are the McCanns we're talking about here.

They are a different kind of principal suspect.

They have an official spokesman and the protection of 3 prime ministers aswell as a local police force who advertise their fund on the police website.

That's for starters.

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Post by Guest on 07.07.11 16:09

@PeterMac wrote:p.298 “You’ll recall that, back in October [2007] we had supplied the Portuguese public prosecutor with a list of people from whom we felt statements should have been taken. In response the Portuguese police had decided to come to Leicester to be present while the British police interviewed Fiona, Dave, Russ, Matt Rachael and Dianne, as well as many other individuals whose testimony had never been sought. The questions to be asked were those Gerry and I had suggested to the prosecutor (obvious and pertinent ones, I hasten to add), with a few additions from the PJ."

This was October 2007.
The McCanns were arguidos from 7 September 2007 until 21 July 2008.
Can we believe that the principal suspects in a case would have had contact of any sort with the prosecutor, let alone suggesting questions, or that he, or the PJ would have taken the slightest notice of them ?
Do we have a list of the "many other individuals".

The next paragraph is telling. “It just so happened that the PJ’s trip to the UK coincided with our visit to Brussels.“ You bet it did.

Here is the list PeterMac............................

3030 to 3034 Letter regarding rogatory content from Carlos Abreu

TRANSLATIONS BY ALBYM

11-Processo Vol 11(cont'd) Pages 3030-3034
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11_VOLUME_XIa_Page_3031

11_VOLUME_XIa_Page_3032

11_VOLUME_XIa_Page_3033

11_VOLUME_XIa_Page_3034

Faxed from Society of Attorneys 16 Oct 2007 to Ministerio Publico in Portimao.

GERALD PATRICK MCCANN and KATE MARIE HEALY, better identified in the documents referenced above, approach, very respectfully, to set forth and request, Sir, the following:

1 - Since the applicants stopped being considered witnesses, moving to suspects of the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, witnesses central to the discovery of truth were not questioned, or re-questioned.

2 - With the recent investigations, witness interviews and interrogations of the applicants, new questions were raised and doubts aroused, broadening, in this way, the object of the investigation, as well as matters of fact considered relevant to the investigations.

3 - Indeed, the Investigation departed from confining itself to the disappearance of the minor, proceeding to embrace other matters, allegedly connected with her.

4 - It is therefore essential to hear these witnesses who can explain facts now very relevant, such as the way the couple treated their children, their personality and routine and, even, the reactions manifested by them after the disappearance and the consequent psychological and emotional state.

5 - So, and because it is believed essential and indispensable for the establishment of the facts and consequent discovery of the truth, they come to request the hearing of the following groups of witnesses, all present and with direct knowledge of the facts:

Group 1 (persons with whom the couple dined every night during the holidays)


David Payne, with address at ...> (Leicester) (0,774,884 ####)

Fiona Payne to address in ...> (Leicester) (0,779,627 ####)

Diane Webster, with address at ...> (Renhold, Bedford) (0,123,477 ####)

Russell O'Brien, with address at ...> (Exeter) 0,771,325 ####)

Jane Tanner, with address at ...> (Exeter) (6,780,858 #####)

Rachael Oldfield, with address at ...> (London) (0,777,159 ####)

Matthew Oldfield, with address at ...> (London) (0,777,159 ####)

Group 2 (independent customers and employees of the Ocean Club who saw the behavior of Kate and Gerry on the day of the disappearance):

Dan Smith, with address at ...> (Ocean Club, c / o Mark Warner)

Steve Carpenter, with address at ...> (Ware, Herts) (0,781,577 ####)

Carolyn Carpenter, with address at ...> (Ware, Herts)

Jeremy Wilkins, with address at ...> (London)

Catriona Baker, with address at ...> (Surrey) (0,785,823 ####)

Group 3 (people who saw and/or spoke with Kate and Gerry at the time they noticed Madeleine's disappearance):

Patricia Cameron, with address at ...> (Dumbarton) (079,122 ####)

Paul Seddon, with address at ...> (Salford) (079,262 #####)

Michelle Thompson, with address at ...> (Liverpool) (0,151,280 ####)

Emma Kinghts, with address at ...> (Ocean Club, c / o Mark Warner) (3,519,614 ####)

Alan Pike, with address at ...> (Skipton) (0,781,212 ####)

Group 4 (people who knew the daily routine of Kate and Gerry and their relationship with their children before coming to Portugal):

Janet Kennedy, with address at ...> (Rothley, Leics) (0,118,230 ####)

Amanda Coxon, with address at ...> (Leicestershire) (0,794,042 ####)

Karen McCalman, with address at ...> (Leicesterhire) (0,116,269 ####)

Patricia Cameron, with address at ...> (Dumbarton) (0791 202 ####)

Sharon Lewin, with address at ...> (Leicester) (0,788,780 ####)

Hayley Plummer, with address at ...> (Syston) (0,778,987 ####)

Group 5 (persons closely involved in the routine of Kate and Gerry in Portugal after the disappearance of Madeleine and their emotional state)

Sandy Cameron, with address at ...> (Dumbarton) (0,793,399 ####)

Michael Wright, with address at ...> (Skipton) (0,777,556 ####)

Clarence Mitchell, with address at ...> (Bath) (0,779,628 ####)

Linda McQueen, with address at ...> (Merseyside) (0,780,956 ####)

Nicky Gill, with address at ...> (Liverpool) (079,004 ####)

Justine McGuiness, with address at ...> (Dorchester) (0,780,109 ####)

Group 6 (Professionals who can confirm that there was no abnormality in the way Kate and Gerry treated their children):

Dr. Phil Hussey, with address at ...> (Leics) (0,116,260 ####)

Dr Ian Schofield, with address at ...> (Mountsorrel) (0,116,230 ####)

6 - It is certain that some of these witnesses have already been heard, at least once, in the investigation.

7 - But, at that time, the direction of the investigation was apparently different, [that being] the reason why some of these witnesses were not heard on the matters mentioned above, currently considered relevant to the prosecution of the investigation and who already were, furthermore, the object of actual proceedings, namely the questioning and the interrogations of the applicants.

We submit that, their testimony [being] essential to the discovery of the truth, and given that the witnesses designated above actually live in the United Kingdom, where they will be found, (except Dan Smith and Emma Knights who will be found in Portugal), it is requested further, under Arts. 229 and following of CPP, 145 and following of Law 14-4/99 of 31 August (Law of International Legal Assistance in Criminal Matters) and 3 and following of the European Convention on Mutual Legal Support in Criminal Matters, that a Rogatory Letter be expedited for them to be heard in the United Kingdom.

They ask that the request be granted

The Advocates
CARLOS PINTO DE ABREU
ROGERIO ALVES


http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MCCANNS-WANTED.htm

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Re: Can this really be correct ?

Post by Guest on 07.07.11 16:18

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MCCANNS-WANTED.htm

The questions they wanted to ask are on the above link also to the various groups of people listed. A long list worth a look. Too long to copy and paste.

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Post by PeterMac on 07.07.11 17:16

Thanks for that. I had not realised it was such a long list.

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Post by PeterMac on 07.07.11 17:30

Can't find my way round. Did those questions get asked of all those people ? Can you give me a start.

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