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Post by ROSA on 25.06.11 1:37


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Re: MadeleineBook.com

Post by Miraflores on 25.06.11 10:27

If you follow this link go to the reviews about the book. It takes you to the Amazon book reviews. Find the one written by S Grace - there are more than 4000 replies to his review. This must be a record in itself, but what is interesting, if you have been following it, is that there are a couple of people who initially bought the McCann's story of the abduction who have now had their eyes opened and begun to question. It's been a very interesting debate, although I personally haven't been able to read them all - I had to stop a couple of days ago because I was busy with other things.

I am just reading the book right now, having borrowed it from the library. I am about half way through and am not convinced by Kate's story yet. At times I find it quite boring. Do we really need to know that the plane going to Morocco was small, with no cabin service, so Kate was glad she had a butty at the airport and other such trivia?

As has been said before, there is very little about Madeleine in it - it's mostly about how all the world is out of step with the McCann's.

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Re: MadeleineBook.com

Post by ROSA on 25.06.11 13:44

Hello Miraflores
You have the book can you tell me if there are any photos of Maddie in PDL during their holiday there ?
Thankyou in advance
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Post by Guest on 25.06.11 13:53

Now that is a very interesting question ROSA, I would like to know the answer to that one too.

Was there any new photo's of Madeleine taken in Portugal between 29th April - 3rd May, that has previously not been released !!!

If not, why not. This was a book about Madeleine.

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Post by Miraflores on 25.06.11 14:22

Good question Rosa and Stella.

The answer is No.

There is a picture of Madeleine attributed to the week before they went to Portugal and a number of unattributed pictures, some from babyhood onwards and some with Sean and Amelie and all look to be well before the holiday. There is the 'age-progressed' picture. But the holiday itself - not one! Not the famous 'last photo' nor the 'tennis court' one.

There is a picture which shows Kate and Gerry coming out of church, where Gerry is wearing a green t-shirt with Madeleine's picture on, with the eye which they never made much of. It's not terribly clear in the book but I recognise the t-shirt from other pictures.

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Post by ROSA on 25.06.11 14:30

OMG that is strange thankyou so much Miraflores
i have to think hard about this i want to know why
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Post by Guest on 25.06.11 14:45

Thank you Miraflores for that confirmation.

This has to be hugely significant.

At the very least I expected to see the last photo and the tennis balls photo again, but if they are missing I can only assume that there is a very good reason for this.

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Post by ROSA on 25.06.11 15:14

Can anyone post the photos of Maddie from the book here please
i think looking at the photos Kate (choose) for her book will answer the question i have a idea that all the photos of Maddie in PDL could be Photos of the child they were signing into creche
There has to be a very big reason why Kate has no photos of Maddie in PDL on the last ever FAMOUS family holiday with her in her book

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Post by Guest on 25.06.11 15:21

That's what I'm wondering ROSA. But we do not have the copyright to insert all of those other pictures here.

But the next time you're near a book shop, flick through the book. Apparently there are lots of unsold copies everywhere just begging for some kind of good use.

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Re: MadeleineBook.com

Post by ROSA on 25.06.11 15:26

i will do that Stella
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a slip up? the child in the last photo wears a pink outfit

Post by ROSA on 25.06.11 15:50

candyfloss wrote[quote]

she was wearing an outfit I'd bought especially for her holiday: a peach-coloured smock top from Gap and some white broderie anglaise shorts from Monsoon.
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The outfit is pink
Why was this so important to Kate and why then did she get it wrong ?

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The photos in the book

Post by PeterMac on 25.06.11 18:05

For the record here they are
Two blocks of photos in the book between pps 120-121, and pps 264-265

p1 - 5 photos “Carefree days in Devon, New Zealand, at our wedding in Liverpool and on honeymoon in Lake Tahoe”
p2 /3 - 7 photos “The arrival of Madeleine , followed by Sean and Amelie made our lives complete”
p 4 - 3 photos, “Our wonderful family and friends...”
p5 - 2 photos “With Michelle in 1997 and Fiona on her wedding day in Umbria in 2003”
p6/7 - 7 photos “ Our family of five. Life doesn’t get any better than this” Picture of family and of the children
p 8 - 1 photo, Madeleine with ice cream round her mouth “April 2007: the week before we left for Portugal”

Part 2
P1 - 2 photos, Apartment and Aerial view of Ocean club
P2, - 4 photos, car surrounded by journalists, Kate stern, Kate smiling, press conference
P3, - 3 photos Outdoor press statement, sitting with photo of M, press crush round car in Rothley
p 4 - 2 photos, coming away from Church in PdL, rocky sea shore
p 5 - 3 photos, Fatima, crossing themselves, meeting Pope
p 6 - 2 photos, age progression, Kate at same age
p 7, - 4 photos photo fits including measleman
p8, - 2 photos, JTs bundle man, one in colour, one BW pencil sketch,

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Re: MadeleineBook.com

Post by pauline on 25.06.11 18:14

Unbelievable no photo from the PDL holiday.

Logically you would have had pics of madeleine in PDL at the end of the first block of pics.

And surely the editor/other advisors on the book would have asked for such pics?

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Photos in the book

Post by juliet on 25.06.11 19:29

It has been suggested often that every one of the PdL playground photos show evidence of being Photoshopped.

For example, in the one where Madeleine is apparently jumping, with Gerry bent down, she has two left feet and part of one leg seems to be missing. IIRC it was said (on 3 Arguidos, in long discussions) that the shadows were all wrong and there is a weird line behind Sean that doesn't make sense. Also the dark-skinned man in the background has his foot turned out to an impossible angle.

RE the photos of PdL which Kate McCann certainly wouldn't have wanted to put in the book are those of David Payne clutching his daughter and another girl (the Tanner child?).

You can see from the girl's stretched smile and tense hands that she does NOT want to be held by him, especially as he seems to be squeezing very hard. These photos are horrible, yet I haven't seem them discussed - and do wonder if it has been confirmed who the girl is.

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Re: MadeleineBook.com

Post by ROSA on 26.06.11 0:41

@PeterMac wrote:For the record here they are
Two blocks of photos in the book between pps 120-121, and pps 264-265

p1 - 5 photos “Carefree days in Devon, New Zealand, at our wedding in Liverpool and on honeymoon in Lake Tahoe”
p2 /3 - 7 photos “The arrival of Madeleine , followed by Sean and Amelie made our lives complete”
p 4 - 3 photos, “Our wonderful family and friends...”
p5 - 2 photos “With Michelle in 1997 and Fiona on her wedding day in Umbria in 2003”
p6/7 - 7 photos “ Our family of five. Life doesn’t get any better than this” Picture of family and of the children
p 8 - 1 photo, Madeleine with ice cream round her mouth “April 2007: the week before we left for Portugal”

Part 2
P1 - 2 photos, Apartment and Aerial view of Ocean club
P2, - 4 photos, car surrounded by journalists, Kate stern, Kate smiling, press conference
P3, - 3 photos Outdoor press statement, sitting with photo of M, press crush round car in Rothley
p 4 - 2 photos, coming away from Church in PdL, rocky sea shore
p 5 - 3 photos, Fatima, crossing themselves, meeting Pope
p 6 - 2 photos, age progression, Kate at same age
p 7, - 4 photos photo fits including measleman
p8, - 2 photos, JTs bundle man, one in colour, one BW pencil sketch,
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Lack of "holiday" photos in the book

Post by Marian on 26.06.11 11:37

This point was first raised a month ago but I can't readily find the title of the topic. It's odd yes but to me it doesn't seem as strange as some of the many other oddities of this case. People are saying that the photos supposedly taken on holiday would be shown to be fakes if printed in a book with earlier photos definitely of Madeleine. I feel that there are some people whose trust in the McCanns is so strong that they wouldn't see anything amiss if the McCanns claimed that photos of a donkey were of their daughter! The various photos genuine and otherwise are already widely available and have created massive interest so I personally don't feel that, had they all been in the book, it would have made any difference.

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Re: MadeleineBook.com

Post by Miraflores on 26.06.11 14:25

I've read the book now. I am still no wiser as to what they have actually done to search for Madeleine! This reminds me of the early Jane Hill interview where Kate McCann said that she hadn't searched for Madeleine but had been working very hard. Doing what?

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Re: MadeleineBook.com

Post by dragonfly on 26.06.11 15:08

@Miraflores wrote:If you follow this link go to the reviews about the book. It takes you to the Amazon book reviews. Find the one written by S Grace - there are more than 4000 replies to his review. This must be a record in itself, but what is interesting, if you have been following it, is that there are a couple of people who initially bought the McCann's story of the abduction who have now had their eyes opened and begun to question. It's been a very interesting debate, .

far to much to read on the thread over 400 pages but I thought r s corbin summed it up well


I think that on the night that Gerry invited the dancer to the table, and Kate stormed off claiming her husband was not paying her enough attention. She was in the room from 22:16 -22:17 minutes before Madeline started crying for 75 minutes. (Her phone records put her there.) She made 6 calls to same number. She claims to have slept in the spare bedroom which is the kids room, there is no spare. Something happened that night, and thats when the conspiracy began.

David Payne claims to have checked on Kate at 6:30 at Gerry request, what so special about today that a man that has left his 3 children alone night after night, is worried about them being with their mother. Could it be they they need a independant sighting of Maddie.

I believe that it was not Maddy but one of the other Tapas 7 children in the creche that day. As hard as it sounds, she was in the cupboard where the dogs noticed and moved later.
They then came up with this abduction story which has not one single shread of evidence to back it up.

The fact that Maddy cried for 75 minutes the night before and the evidence of Ocean club staff that they did not see anyone leaving table proves that they were not checking those children at all.

Gerry checks at 9, Oldfield checks at 9:30 and Kate at 10. all using the entrance further away, hoping to be seen and get witnesses to them checking.

Jane Tanner see man carrying baby, and see Gerry talking to tennis friend. They do not see her, because she was not there.

Kate finds Maddy missing and leaves oither children to go back to bar. She can leave the babies because she knows their is no kidnapper and that they are in no danger.

Jane Tanner and Oldfield claim to be in flat tending to vomiting child, but Ocean club say no sheet change for that flat, Those sheets probarly used to wrap Maddy in. Why do none of the friends say in their statement that the 1st thing they did was check their children, maybe because they knew no abduction took place.

Tanner then claims to come out of her flat and hear commotion, her 1st thought is off man carrying child, but don't ring police for another 30 minutes.

Gerry and Kate do no searching for child, because they know exactly where she is. Kate says she knew that the room was a crime scene, so why allow her friends to contaminate it.

Gerry calls Kate 4 times in 20 minutes before police arrive, where was he? Not with Kate and not searching! These calls later erased from both phones.

Later on 3 of the Tapas 7 pick out Robert Murat, as a patsy, but the Portugeuse police are so convinved this is nonsense, they make them repeat their claims in front of him, which none of them do. Jane Tanner tries to add fire to the Robert Murat story, by picking him out as man who carried baby, but again retracts that, and later draws a e fit of a man who looks nothing like him.

The McCanns refuse reconstruction, because would prove their timeline is not possible.

Rachael Oldfield says in a interview that there was enough medics to resuccetate a child (Why say that?)

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Re: MadeleineBook.com

Post by Guest on 26.06.11 15:33

@Marian wrote:
The various photos genuine and otherwise are already widely available and have created massive interest so I personally don't feel that, had they all been in the book, it would have made any difference.

But there has only ever been 3 which specifically relates to their holiday in Portugal, that we have been encouraged to see.

1. The play area
2. The pool
3. The tennis balls

But where are all the OTHER ones which the McCann's must have taken? The ones on the beach? Practising for the end of week show? Having breakfast or lunch?

Where are all David's, Fiona's, Jane's, Rachel's, Bridget O'Donnells and all the other tennis pics?

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Post by pauline on 26.06.11 15:43

Exactly Stella!

In the old days you had to buy rolls of film. With digital cameras you can take unlimited shots. Only criteria is to have the battery charged.

as you say their friends must have taken lots of pics in which madeleine was included.

I think this is really significant and helps the theory that it was not madeleine on that holiday (I am not convinced yet but I cannot think of any reason to exclude holidays pics). I also cannot understand why the publisher did not insist on holiday pics - in fact a separate section headed - the last pics - would have been emotive and a marketing ploy.


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Post by Guest on 26.06.11 15:49

Very emotive Pauline, I agree.

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No "last photos" in the book

Post by Guest on 26.06.11 16:32

Yes it seems strange that the McCanns missed out on a "good marketing ploy" on this occasion; we all know how efficient the coloboma story was!

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Re: MadeleineBook.com

Post by ROSA on 26.06.11 23:38

Stella wrote:
@Marian wrote:
The various photos genuine and otherwise are already widely available and have created massive interest so I personally don't feel that, had they all been in the book, it would have made any difference.

But there has only ever been 3 which specifically relates to their holiday in Portugal, that we have been encouraged to see.

1. The play area
2. The pool
3. The tennis balls

But where are all the OTHER ones which the McCann's must have taken? The ones on the beach? Practising for the end of week show? Having breakfast or lunch?

Where are all David's, Fiona's, Jane's, Rachel's, Bridget O'Donnells and all the other tennis pics?
http://forum2.aimoo.com/MadeleineMcCann/m/Individual-Topics/Photos-in-Files-1-970840.html
Gerry handed a disc of photos you can see in the pjfiles they are all in black scale i dont know why but they are the adults playing tennis adults on the beach with kids unseen photos of the kid mccanns call madeleine they are very interesting have a look

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Re: MadeleineBook.com

Post by ROSA on 09.07.11 4:13

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Post by ROSA on 09.07.11 4:20

Maddie. La verità della menzogna [Perfect Paperback]
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