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Madeleine Book out of top 100 in July (was: down to No.18 in June)

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Madeleine Book out of top 100 in July (was: down to No.18 in June)

Post by Guest on 18.06.11 20:10

It seems the book has dropped 10 places to No.18 in the official top 50 chart.

http://www.thebookseller.com/node/46066

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Re: Madeleine Book out of top 100 in July (was: down to No.18 in June)

Post by Gillyspot on 18.06.11 20:17

That'll be in the FICTION section will it. Have tried to read it and only got to about 250 pages and gave up as couldnt stand her self pitying whining.

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Re: Madeleine Book out of top 100 in July (was: down to No.18 in June)

Post by PeterMac on 19.06.11 7:06

candyfloss wrote:It seems the book has dropped 10 places to No.18 in the official top 50 chart.
Also down in price on Amazon
27 new from £7.95

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Re: Madeleine Book out of top 100 in July (was: down to No.18 in June)

Post by tiny on 19.06.11 7:47

best seller,eh

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Re: Madeleine Book out of top 100 in July (was: down to No.18 in June)

Post by PeterMac on 19.06.11 10:46

@tiny wrote:best seller,eh
But is is more than that.
However many are sold, with a retail price of £10, or £ 7.95, the seller has to make a good mark up, the publisher has to be paid, ditto everyone else in the food chain.
The amount available as royalty is vanishingly small. Possibly nothing at all.
There are sites on the net discussing how to have your own book published which raise this very issue.
The chances of their making significant amounts of money are very low indeed.


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Re: Madeleine Book out of top 100 in July (was: down to No.18 in June)

Post by HotlipsHealy on 19.06.11 10:48

But surely the money they raised from interviews to promote the book is theirs to keep? and the serialisation of the book in the Sun must have made them a pretty penny. Obviously enough to pay for more court action anyway.

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Re: Madeleine Book out of top 100 in July (was: down to No.18 in June)

Post by tiny on 19.06.11 11:02

and i reckon that the mccanns made more£££££ out of the scum newspaper than the book

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The economics of THE book

Post by pauline on 19.06.11 11:36

The McCanns will have done well out of this.

They obviously got a huge advance - various reports of what it was.

They get royalties when and if the advance is covered by sales. When an author gets a huge advance (only well known ones normally do) they do not lose out if the book flops, though the publisher will not rush to take their next book. Authors do not normally repay the part of the advance that is not covered by sales, and with all the lawyers behind them the McCanns would not have signed an unusual contract involving the possible refund of any part of the advance.

The McCanns may well not be entitled to royalties but it doesn't really matter as they got such a big advance.

Now the publisher, distributors and bookshops may not have found the book profitable. Vast quantities will been printed (though cost per book cheaper for large print run) and the publisher had other costs especially marketing.

Bookshops apparently marked the book well down to get the sales and possibly got little or no profit.

In addition the McCann's were paid for serialisation rights and interviews. Does anyone know what they charge for interviews and whether they normally charged for interviews (ie pre book)?

Now all the money from the book will presumably lodged into their 'not for profit' company?

Their company is an ordinary limited company and they will be liable for tax on any profit/surplus their company makes - but I just suspect that the company won't have any surplus to tax as it is very expensive searching for Madeleine, and paying all those lawyers.

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Re: Madeleine Book out of top 100 in July (was: down to No.18 in June)

Post by Guest on 24.06.11 10:53

The book Madeleine has dropped a further 18 places and now stands at no35 in the top 50

http://www.thebookseller.com/node/46929




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Re: Madeleine Book out of top 100 in July (was: down to No.18 in June)

Post by PeterMac on 01.07.11 7:58

Down again today.

Madeleine by Kate McCann (Hardcover - 12 May 2011)
Buy new: £20.00 £10.00
27 new from £7.50 8 used from £9.56

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Re: Madeleine Book out of top 100 in July (was: down to No.18 in June)

Post by PeterMac on 03.07.11 8:20

Down yet again.
Sunday 3 July

Madeleine by Kate McCann (Hardcover - 12 May 2011)
Buy new: £20.00 £10.00
29 new from £6.00 9 used from £8.50

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Re: Madeleine Book out of top 100 in July (was: down to No.18 in June)

Post by PeterMac on 09.07.11 8:47

Down yet again.
Saturday 9th July

Madeleine by Kate McCann (Hardcover - 12 May 2011)
Buy new: £20.00 £10.00
31 new from £5.75 11 used from £8.99


coming soon - to a land-fill site near you !

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Re: Madeleine Book out of top 100 in July (was: down to No.18 in June)

Post by ROSA on 09.07.11 8:51

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Re: Madeleine Book out of top 100 in July (was: down to No.18 in June)

Post by Guest on 09.07.11 8:54

@PeterMac wrote:Down yet again.
Saturday 9th July

Madeleine by Kate McCann (Hardcover - 12 May 2011)
Buy new: £20.00 £10.00
31 new from £5.75 11 used from £8.99


coming soon - to a land-fill site near you !

Why does the 'used' copies cost more than the new ones ?

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Post by PeterMac on 09.07.11 9:14

Stella wrote: Why do the 'used' copies cost more than the new ones ?
Because the act of reading it adds intellectual content.

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Re: Madeleine Book out of top 100 in July (was: down to No.18 in June)

Post by Mini Slueth on 09.07.11 9:50

@PeterMac wrote:
Stella wrote: Why do the 'used' copies cost more than the new ones ?
Because the act of reading it adds intellectual content.

Brilliant petermac!!

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Re: Madeleine Book out of top 100 in July (was: down to No.18 in June)

Post by puzzled on 09.07.11 11:04

@PeterMac wrote:

coming soon - to a land-fill site near you !

The sad thing about it is, it's a waste of a perfectly good tree!

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Re: Madeleine Book out of top 100 in July (was: down to No.18 in June)

Post by pauline on 09.07.11 14:21

In todays Irish Times (known as the paper 'of record) Kate's book is No.1 in the non fiction paperback section having sold 931 copies in the last week.

I think it has been No.1 in this category for some weeks now.

And i haven't seen any price reductions yet - it sells for between €14.99 and €15.99.

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Re: Madeleine Book out of top 100 in July (was: down to No.18 in June)

Post by Gillyspot on 09.07.11 15:50

It's still at No1 in the non fiction (god I wanted to move them over one space to be in the fiction section!) in Smiths today and priced at £14.


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Re: Madeleine Book out of top 100 in July (was: down to No.18 in June)

Post by PeterMac on 12.07.11 10:55

Today Tuesday 12 July

"Madeleine by Kate McCann (Hardcover - 12 May 2011)
Buy new: £20.00 £10.00
30 new from £5.75 14 used from £8.00"


So why would anyone, Irish or not, buy one at £ 14 ?

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Re: Madeleine Book out of top 100 in July (was: down to No.18 in June)

Post by Guest on 12.07.11 11:03

According to the bookseller.com Madeleine the book is no longer in the top 50.

http://www.thebookseller.com/node/48006

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Re: Madeleine Book out of top 100 in July (was: down to No.18 in June)

Post by PeterMac on 20.07.11 12:46

All time low today, Weds 20 July

Madeleine by Kate McCann (Hardcover - 12 May 2011)
Buy new: £20.00 £10.00
35 new from £5.75 13 used from £5.50

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Re: Madeleine Book out of top 100 in July (was: down to No.18 in June)

Post by pauline on 20.07.11 12:55

Any book slips down the best sellers list after a while and it is quite normal for books to be discounted to move stocks.

What i would like to know if whether the reportedly very big advance is going into the Fund or just the royalties, and of course there mightn't be any royalties as royalties are only paid when the advance is cleared by sales.

And if the advance goes into the Fund - will it be spent on more lawyers?

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What is the fund for?

Post by Marian on 20.07.11 13:20

That's a good question Pauline. I didn't know that any advance payment is taken out of the royalties. It's debatable whether the Fund had any worthwhile purpose right from the start but now it's even stranger that the McCanns are still actively touting for donations.


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