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Post by Guest on 16.06.11 16:13

Thursday , June 16th

Maddie's parents sue Goucha, Sergeant and Hernani Carvalho


Defendants: Luis Manuel Goucha Paul Sergeant and Hernani Carvalho
Luis Manuel Goucha Paul Sergeant and Hernani Carvalho started yesterday, Wednesday, to be made defendants in a case in defamation brought by Kate and Gerry McCann.
The indictment, which was presented by the couple's lawyer in Portugal, is also aimed at the management of TVI. It was in a program presented on TVI that the alleged crime has occurred.
Asked the forensic expert and psychologist Paul Sergeant - yesterday accused constituted - has confirmed the information and stressed "that yesterday but did not provide any statements that weighs responding during the process because he knows the elements that can lead to the reopening of the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann . "
Curious detail, the process is not under judicial secrecy.
Source close to Maddie's parents confirmed the complaint and added "that other processes can still occur."

http://duartelevy.eu/2011/06/16/pais-de-maddie-processam-goucha-sargento-e-hernani-carvalho/


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Post by LittleMissMolly on 16.06.11 16:32

Ahhh ... that's obviously what the advance from the book is being spent on ... The minute they have access to funds they are off suing someone!! .....Who's next? Pat Brown?

Have the McCanns never heard of the Streisand Effect?

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Post by Mini Slueth on 16.06.11 16:46

I am having a really dim day................................so can someone tell me why they are suing this man?

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Post by Guest on 16.06.11 16:50

@Mini Slueth wrote:I am having a really dim day................................so can someone tell me why they are suing this man?

The indictment, which was presented by the couple's lawyer in Portugal, is also aimed at the management of TVI. It was in a program presented on TVI that the alleged crime has occurred

I think it's something to do with this interview they did on the TVI programme Mini Slueth. They seem to be suing the management of TVI as well judging from the article. Somewhere on the Jo Morais blog, there will be a transcript I'm sure.

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Post by LittleMissMolly on 16.06.11 16:59

Here is a slightly clearer translation, courtesy of Carmen on MM

Manuel Luis Goucha, Paulo Sargento and Hernâni Carvalho have been made arguidos yesterday, Wednesday, in a libel action started by Kate and Gerry McCann.
The criminal complaint, initiated by the couple’s lawyer in Portugal, also affects the TVI administration. It was during a talk show broadcasted by TVI that the alleged crime has occurred.
The psychologist Paulo Sargento – arguido since yesterday – confirmed the information and stated “that he did not speak yesterday but that he intends to do so during the proceedings because he has knowledge of elements which may lead to the reopening of the inquiry related to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.”
An interesting detail is that the process is not under the law of secrecy of justice.
A source close to Maddie’s parents has confirmed the complaint and added that “other complaints may still occur”.




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Post by lj on 16.06.11 17:05

Arguido, criminal complaint??

Maybe taking care of kids is now a crime in the twarped world of the McCanns?

Keep going Kate, I predicted it would all end in a giant crash.

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Post by Big Vern on 16.06.11 18:48

This could well be the straw that breaks the camel's back.
They have bitten off more than they can chew this time.
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Post by Guest on 16.06.11 18:53

@Big Vern wrote:This could well be the straw that breaks the camel's back.
They have bitten off more than they can chew this time.
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You could be right Big Vern, according to a Portuguese poster on MM Hernani was interviewed today and was quite looking forward to it.

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Post by Gillyspot on 16.06.11 22:37

The thing I find most interesting is that none of the UK media sources are covering this latest Mccann legal escapade (is it not on Reuters - I am sure it is). So the pertinent question is why is the BBC and other media ignoring it - probably for the same reason the Casey Anthony case hasn't been on our news (in fact that when I have spoken to several friends in the last week they knew nothing about the case). I wont go any further with this question except to say that I am very disappointed with our "so called independent media" as they are certainly not independent

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Post by joyce1938 on 17.06.11 10:02

well now ,could this court case open up a can of worms, and shoot maccies on the foot?and all at their requiest?and then have opposite effect to what they expect? joyce1938

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New Libel Trial Announced

Post by tellusanother1 on 17.06.11 14:59

Found this in my alerts today. Looks like the Drs. are determined to silence anyone who questions their "abduction" theory. Here is the link:

http://duartelevy.eu/2011/06/16/maddies-parents-sue-goucha-sargento-and-hernani-carvalho/

Where do you suppose they got the money to do this?


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Post by Guest on 17.06.11 15:08

@tellusanother1 wrote:Found this in my alerts today. Looks like the Drs. are determined to silence anyone who questions their "abduction" theory. Here is the link:

http://duartelevy.eu/2011/06/16/maddies-parents-sue-goucha-sargento-and-hernani-carvalho/

Where do you suppose they got the money to do this?



Have merged this with the same topic started yesterday tellusanotherone thumbsup

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Post by tellusanother1 on 17.06.11 15:19

Thanks! Missed the link on that one! Too early in the morning apparently Wink .

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Post by Guest on 17.06.11 15:56

Spudgun saying this on twitter.............


spudgun01 Mike Spudgun
Apparently the #McCanns are objecting to comments made about 'Cuddle Cat' and Madeleines blanket on a TV discussion show.....
1 hour ago »

spudgun01 Mike Spudgun
http://t.co/xa4hvQI "knows details which could lead to the re-opening of the investigation into Madeleine McCann's disappearance" #McCanns
1 hour ago »

spudgun01 Mike Spudgun
@ @Katycakes1 For 'search', read 'cover-up'!!
1 hour ago »
Katycakes1 Katycakes

by spudgun01
@ @spudgun01 yes, proceeds from book can be spent on loads of legal action for McCanns as Government happy to pay £3 million + for 'search'
1 hour ago »

spudgun01 Mike Spudgun
http://t.co/oQucg3W This is where the #McCanns £2m book proceeds is going. Trying to stifle truth and Justice.
1 hour ago »

spudgun01 Mike Spudgun
@ @DavidAllenGreen How about privileged, contrived, fabricated and false for starters.
1 hour ago »

RealHumptyB Humpty Bumpty
by spudgun01
Anyone wanting to know truth about #McCann case should start by reading this book and watching this film... http://tinyurl.com/lyz285
3 hours ago »

Qaudrille Rocki Stone
by spudgun01
#mccanns deny secret meeting http://t.co/V3llIUf
2 hours ago »

spudgun01 Mike Spudgun
http://t.co/xtUR9kn The TAPAS 'rehearsal' meeting referred to in the FINAL Portuguese report, the one the #McCanns insist CLEARS them.
1 hour ago »

spudgun01 Mike Spudgun
http://t.co/W2Tfyn7 J.K. Rowlings new "Mystery" project. Perhaps it's a "Where's Maddy" book. Madeleine #McCanns
2 hours ago


https://twitter.com/#!/spudgun01

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Post by lj on 17.06.11 16:30

candyfloss wrote:Spudgun saying this on twitter.............


spudgun01 Mike Spudgun
Apparently the #McCanns are objecting to comments made about 'Cuddle Cat' and Madeleines blanket on a TV discussion show.....
1 hour ago »

spudgun01 Mike Spudgun
http://t.co/xa4hvQI "knows details which could lead to the re-opening of the investigation into Madeleine McCann's disappearance" #McCanns
1 hour ago »

spudgun01 Mike Spudgun
@ @Katycakes1 For 'search', read 'cover-up'!!
1 hour ago »
Katycakes1 Katycakes

by spudgun01
@ @spudgun01 yes, proceeds from book can be spent on loads of legal action for McCanns as Government happy to pay £3 million + for 'search'
1 hour ago »

spudgun01 Mike Spudgun
http://t.co/oQucg3W This is where the #McCanns £2m book proceeds is going. Trying to stifle truth and Justice.
1 hour ago »

spudgun01 Mike Spudgun
@ @DavidAllenGreen How about privileged, contrived, fabricated and false for starters.
1 hour ago »

RealHumptyB Humpty Bumpty
by spudgun01
Anyone wanting to know truth about #McCann case should start by reading this book and watching this film... http://tinyurl.com/lyz285
3 hours ago »

Qaudrille Rocki Stone
by spudgun01
#mccanns deny secret meeting http://t.co/V3llIUf
2 hours ago »

spudgun01 Mike Spudgun
http://t.co/xtUR9kn The TAPAS 'rehearsal' meeting referred to in the FINAL Portuguese report, the one the #McCanns insist CLEARS them.
1 hour ago »

spudgun01 Mike Spudgun
http://t.co/W2Tfyn7 J.K. Rowlings new "Mystery" project. Perhaps it's a "Where's Maddy" book. Madeleine #McCanns
2 hours ago


https://twitter.com/#!/spudgun01

WOW and spudgun is normally very held back when it comes to criticizing the McCanns.

But I have to agree this shows them exactly for what they are: rücksichtslose attention and money w Hores. Indeed yes, proceeds from book can be spent on loads of legal action for McCanns as Government happy to pay £3 million + for 'search'

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Post by russiandoll on 10.06.14 13:28

It looked on the face of it as if this might have been related to an interview alongside GA, but appears not to be.  I watched an interview where Carvalho was imo out of order for stating the following:



   HC: I cannot agree with that... I believe it was Gerry. Gerry said, "If you think the girl is dead then show me her body".

   His belief is afaik mistaken, that or he was making mischief with his remark knowing well that it was not true. The only place I have read any reference to a remark such as " show me/ bring me/ find me the body" was when the Public Prosecutor said that there would not be any charges against the McCanns without Maddie's body as evidence.

 Much as I dislike Gerry McCann, I do not think that this remark should be attributed to him as a sign of his arrogance/ being sure a body will never be found, as happens repeatedly on this forum and other social media, unless it is sourced. I stand to be corrected if it turns out that GM said these words or similar.

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Post by noddy100 on 10.06.14 14:03

What info could he gave that would assist re opening?
And I thought it was re opened

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Post by Snifferdog on 10.06.14 14:30

@russiandoll wrote:It looked on the face of it as if this might have been related to an interview alongside GA, but appears not to be.  I watched an interview where Carvalho was imo out of order for stating the following:



   HC: I cannot agree with that... I believe it was Gerry. Gerry said, "If you think the girl is dead then show me her body".

   His belief is afaik mistaken, that or he was making mischief with his remark knowing well that it was not true. The only place I have read any reference to a remark such as " show me/ bring me/ find me the body" was when the Public Prosecutor said that there would not be any charges against the McCanns without Maddie's body as evidence.

 Much as I dislike Gerry McCann, I do not think that this remark should be attributed to him as a sign of his arrogance/ being sure a body will never be found, as happens repeatedly on this forum and other social media, unless it is sourced. I stand to be corrected if it turns out that GM said these words or similar.
IIRC Gerry said to Sandra Fulgueras (spelling?): "Find the body and prove we killed her."

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Post by AndyB on 10.06.14 14:33

@russiandoll wrote:It looked on the face of it as if this might have been related to an interview alongside GA, but appears not to be.  I watched an interview where Carvalho was imo out of order for stating the following:



   HC: I cannot agree with that... I believe it was Gerry. Gerry said, "If you think the girl is dead then show me her body".

   His belief is afaik mistaken, that or he was making mischief with his remark knowing well that it was not true. The only place I have read any reference to a remark such as " show me/ bring me/ find me the body" was when the Public Prosecutor said that there would not be any charges against the McCanns without Maddie's body as evidence.

 Much as I dislike Gerry McCann, I do not think that this remark should be attributed to him as a sign of his arrogance/ being sure a body will never be found, as happens repeatedly on this forum and other social media, unless it is sourced. I stand to be corrected if it turns out that GM said these words or similar.

"Find the body and prove we killed her"

The article has disappeared now but I found this archive of the Express, which made the original claim
http://web.archive.org/web/20071221085316/http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/19042/Find-the-body-and-prove-we-killed-her

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Post by russiandoll on 10.06.14 14:34

Thanks for that information, will try to find it. I have a vague memory of words from GM to an interviewer along the lines of  " If we killed... where is the body? " now you have mentioned it, but it was not worded like the challenge of " Find and prove..."

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Post by Snifferdog on 10.06.14 14:41

Russiandoll it was an interview with Sandra and the McCanns. It was one of the very few videos I have seen of them and I remember being astounded at his audacity. Sorry I cannot post a link.

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Post by Snifferdog on 10.06.14 14:49

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NES_NR0IOxA

Ok not sure but think this is the one or if I did it correctly. Otherwise just type into search Find the body and prove we killed her. Should get you there.

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Post by AndyB on 10.06.14 14:57

@russiandoll wrote:Thanks for that information, will try to find it. I have a vague memory of words from GM to an interviewer along the lines of  " If we killed... where is the body? " now you have mentioned it, but it was not worded like the challenge of " Find and prove..."
You may well be right and the Express has put their spin on it. I'm getting my information from
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id29.html and
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/5sep7/Express-13-09-07.htm

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Post by fossey on 10.06.14 14:58

@Snifferdog wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NES_NR0IOxA

Ok not sure but think this is the one or if I did it correctly.  Otherwise just type into search Find the body and prove we killed her.  Should get you there.
That's not the one.

The actual one where he said it as far as i know has been WHOOSHED.

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Post by Snifferdog on 10.06.14 15:27

Im sorry about that.  sad  I was unable to watch the video to check if it was the correct one.

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