McCanns were broke in 2007

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Re: McCanns were broke in 2007

Post  pennylane on Mon Jun 06, 2011 5:55 pm

Doctors have many ways of making money. I'll bet the McScams never stopped bringing in the bucks for one second.

Wonder what the incentives/remunerations were for being on the subcommittee of COMARE?



GM's name remained on the members list for quite some time before it was whooshed I recall.

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Re: McCanns were broke in 2007

Post  Anna on Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:00 pm

I can't believe that a doctor in his position was only living from one month to the next and wouldn't have anything in the bank for rainy days. Most people, surely, have at least a couple of months back-up. He also worked at Spire Hospital which is private and would pay more per hour than Glenfield.

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Re: McCanns were broke in 2007

Post  pauline on Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:54 pm

Anna wrote:I can't believe that a doctor in his position was only living from one month to the next and wouldn't have anything in the bank for rainy days. Most people, surely, have at least a couple of months back-up. He also worked at Spire Hospital which is private and would pay more per hour than Glenfield.



I've worked in finance for many years and believe me you cannot assume people have money because they are professional and on an appropriate salary. Sometimes its the people with modest incomes who have significant savings because they don't spend. People are different. Generous people regardless of their actual income in my experience rarely have much saved. As I have posted earlier, I think the IVF treatments could have left the McCanns with a loan other than the mortgage loan on their house.

Does anyone know what the takehome pay of a married man would be on £75000 after tax and national insurance?

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Re: McCanns were broke in 2007

Post  Kololi on Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:54 pm

I may not be remembering this correctly but I do recall something whereby after the original fund was set up a second fund was mentioned. I think it was going to be a seprate fund from Madeleine's money and it was going to be a "fighting fund" for their legal expenses etc.

If I am remembering wrong than apologies but I am sure there was talk about such a thing by Mr McCann.

It does appear that many people have had a share of Madeleine's fund for one reason or another. Whether that is wrong or right depends on how the individual views what counts as a cost in searching for Madeleine.

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Re: McCanns were broke in 2007

Post  Guest on Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:39 am

pauline wrote:

I think the IVF treatments could have left the McCanns with a loan other than the mortgage loan on their house.



How do you know that they even had to pay for their IVF?

They could have entered into a funded program for research purposes and got it all done for free.

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Post  pauline on Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:09 am

Can someone who has the book say if they mention the cost of the IVF treatments.

Its an interesting suggestion that they could have got free treatment by participating in a research project.

I have always assumed they paid the normal (large) fees.

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Post  Guest on Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:14 am

In this country, in certain areas the first cycle of IVF was free. If you needed a second cycle you had to pay for it.

But we know they had theirs done in Holland. I wonder why that was?

Even if they said they paid XYZ in the book for IVF, I wouldn't believe them.

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Post  pauline on Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:21 am

Stella wrote:In this country, in certain areas the first cycle of IVF was free. If you needed a second cycle you had to pay for it.

But we know they had theirs done in Holland. I wonder why that was?

Even if they said they paid XYZ in the book for IVF, I wouldn't believe them.


I think they needed a no of treatments for madeleine, maybe less for the twins. I understand as you say you get one free treatment in the Uk, then you have to pay. Couples often travel because particularly if treatment in your own country hasn't worked you look at success rates overseas and go there. In our family, there was no success in Ireland and thousands spent (no free treatment here) - so my relative went to Prague for treatment because this doctor had I think a slightly different method and a statistically better success rate. She now has a 9 month old daughter.

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Chapter 2: 'Madeleine'

Post  Tony Bennett on Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:39 pm

pauline wrote:Can someone who has the book say if they mention the cost of the IVF treatments.

Its an interesting suggestion that they could have got free treatment by participating in a research project. I have always assumed they paid the normal (large) fees.

The IVF treatment is mentioned in Chapter 2 of the book, the chapter itself is also titled simply: 'Madeleine'.

There is no mention whatsoever of any costs and no mention at all about any period of time spent in Holland.

Dr Kate says they were living in Queniborough at the time. Gerry played squash and joined Rothley Park Golf Club.

Dr Kate says (p. 21): "Eventually I saw a doctor [about not becoming pregnant], underwent tests and was diagnised with endometriosis..."

She then had "...over a year of surgery with laser treatment and hormonal injections, all to no avail".

They took the decision to 'try IVF'.

She went into 'the hospital' for pregnany tests. The name of the hospital is not given (p. 22).

She refers to the 'IVF team' (p. 23), and refers to such procedures as 'defrosted embryos' not having survived and 'beginning new cycles' etc.

Gerry decided not to go to an important cardiology conference in Berlin as he needed to produce a new sperm sample for fertilisation at the same time as the Berlin conference. He told Dr Kate: "The IVF is more imprtant" (p. 24).

She fell pregnant after being implanted with more embryos (p. 24) and then (p. 25): "My pregnancy was totally without complication".

She speaks about being awake all night after Madeleine was born on 12 May (p. 27) and then later in the day she says her father drove at speeds of up to over 100mph to reach the [still unnamed] hospital maternity ward, in order to "get there by visiting time". She does not say how many days she spent in hospital.

I can find nothing in this chapter or eslewhere about paying for any IVF treatment nor about any period around this time (or any other time) when they were supposed to be in Holland.

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Post  Guest on Tue Jun 07, 2011 1:19 pm

There is an article somewhere that says in 2004, whilst still in Holland, "Kate fell pregnant again through IVF" with the twins. This is why I was under the impression that Madeleine was also created in Holland, as Gerry was working there at the time.

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