Why Madeleine is dead

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Re: Why Madeleine is dead

Post  rose58 on Sat May 28, 2011 6:53 pm

Did they honestly alert to cadaver? I thought both dogs alerted to blood? If that's the case then how the hell do we know what they alerted to? I know people say dogs don't lie but they don't talk either do they? EXCUSE THE CAPITALS FOR A REPLY BUT THE FONT COLOUR FUNCTION IS NOT WORKING FOR MENO ONE HAS SAID BOTH ALERTED TO CADAVER, ONE IS A CADAVER DOG AND ONE  IS A BLOOD DOG - AS FOR THEM BOTH ALERTING TO BLOOD, THAT IS NOT TRUE, EDDIE ALERTED TO AREAS KEELA DIDNT ALERT TO SO YOU ARE WRONG THERE


You don't do doggy language do you Rose me old petal?  STUPID STATEMENT AND NO NEED TO GET PERSONAL


Alternatives ....(for the open mind)


1. the dogs were wrong - YOU WOULD HAVE TO SHOW PROOF THAT THEY HAVE BEEN WRONG IN THE PAST

2. the dogs indicted to blood only - AS STATED BEFORE, THIS IS INNACURATE

3. the dogs were trying to please their master for a bone - NO COMMENT TO THIS PEURILE STATEMENT

4. cadaver (if thats what it was) has been suspiciously placed there for motives unknown? - EQUALLY PEURILE STATEMENT


There you go, that she keep you going for a few days! - I HAVE PLANS FOR A FEW DAYS AND THEY DON'T INCLUDE REPLYING TO YOUR PEURILE POSTS ANY MORE, THANK YOU AND DON'T SPEAK TO ME AGAIN 

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Re: Why Madeleine is dead

Post  RBxHN on Sat May 28, 2011 7:33 pm

Bugger!

I take it Im off the christmas card list then?

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Re: Why Madeleine is dead

Post  candyfloss on Sat May 28, 2011 7:43 pm

You might find this programme of interest RBxHN it was on last night, on CI channel 553 Sky, and repeated tonight at 02.00am

Bloodwork

Saturday 02:00

Canine Crimesolvers:

Dog handlers search for the body of a girl killed by a friend's dad. Her murderer boasted her body would never be found. Can dogs give her parents something to bury?

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Post  Marian on Sat May 28, 2011 8:27 pm

It may be just me but I get the impression from both RBxHN's user name and his screen avatar that he has blundered his way here from a fantasy role playing game website.


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Re: Why Madeleine is dead

Post  RBxHN on Sat May 28, 2011 8:32 pm

candyfloss wrote:You might find this programme of interest RBxHN it was on last night, on CI channel 553 Sky, and repeated tonight at 02.00am

Bloodwork

Saturday 02:00

Canine Crimesolvers:

Dog handlers search for the body of a girl killed by a friend's dad. Her murderer boasted her body would never be found. Can dogs give her parents something to bury?


I think there are many cases where dogs have picked up scents which have led to dead bodies. I cannot remember where but I read an independent report by police dog handler who critized the way in which the dogs were handled in this particular case. Very interesting and well worth a read...........if I can find it.
But I will look.

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Re: Why Madeleine is dead

Post  rose58 on Sat May 28, 2011 11:02 pm

RBxHN Today at 7:33 pm

Bugger!

I take it Im off the christmas card list then?


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was that a reply to me?i dont care if i am off your xmas card list i was talking about cadaver odour and how it permeates this case cheers

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Re: Why Madeleine is dead

Post  Garth on Sun May 29, 2011 7:59 am

Good Morning
 
Rose, I think you haven't read RBxHN's post wrong.
 
Try pointing your gun before firing it!

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Re: Why Madeleine is dead

Post  Garth on Sun May 29, 2011 8:25 am

For both dogs to alert to blood only, then both dogs would have alerted in exactly the same place.

Agree?

As the report confirms, whilst on some checks they both indicated in the same place (where you are correct in assuming only blood was found) there were other places where only the cadavour dog alerted. Therefore we are safe to conclude that in these locations the dog was alerting to cadavour odour and not blood.

Agree?

From the files:

1 - Apartment 5A, of the resort 'Ocean Club', place from where the child disappeared.

- cadaver odour dog:
*in the couple’s bedroom, in a corner, close to the wardrobe;
*in the living room, behind the sofa, close to the lateral window of the apartment;

- blood dog:
* in the living room, behind the sofa, close to the lateral window of the apartment (exactly as it was signalled by the cadaver odour dog);

2 – Area of the backyard, close to the apartment 5A:

- cadaver odour dog:
* in a flowerbed, commented by the dog handler the lightness of the scent detected;

6 – In the clothes and belongings of the Family MCCANN

- cadaver odour dog:
* in two pieces of clothing belonging to KATE HEALY
* in a piece of clothing of the minor MADELEINE
* in the plush toy, possibly belonging to MADELEINE (it was detected cadaver odour, when the plush was inside the residence – at the date occupied by the family)

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For the purpose of this exercise, I will agree.
 
Questions
 
Gerry carried her apparently, so why have they not identified any scent on his clothes?
 
Which two peices of clothing? We need to know as its very important. Some of us dont just accept is you see.
 
Are we suggesting that Madeleine was playing with a toy whilst she was dead?
 
Are we also suggesting Madeleine was placed in the bush to make the garden look pretty?
 
So, if she died from a heavy blow with a sharp weapon (for blood spatters to be up the curtain) then me thinks (and going eon the cadavarine found in the wardrobe) they must have automatically bundled her into the wardrobe to hide the body, thrown in a toy for good measure. And then when GM returned to get rid of her, he must have thought the safest way to evade must be through the sliding patio doors (you know, and into the lit street where people we wandering around) but, and wait, must have been spooked so hastily threw her in the bush (lol) and when all clear, decided to pick her up and walk down the street past the entrance (hoping noone would do a babycheck) and then nonchalantly amble his way to the place where he was spotted by the Smiths!
 
Of course it doesnt end there, he then finds a place to hide the body (freezer in some unsuspecting persons home) run back, change his clothes and dispose of them ( so noone would find any cadaverine because they were very clever these McCanns - oh and havent been found) and return to the table as if nothing had happened.
 
And still it doesnt end. A discovery, a campaign for four years and eventually a reinvestigation into their daughters disappearance.
 
Amazing isnt it?
 
I think Kate wrote the wrong book. She should have wrote, how to murder your child and get away with it. Im sure it would prove to be a childrens best seller!

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Re: Why Madeleine is dead

Post  Garth on Sun May 29, 2011 8:26 am

And people on here wonder why the McCanns think their nut jobs?
 
  

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Re: Why Madeleine is dead

Post  Garth on Sun May 29, 2011 8:31 am

Of course, we must ALSO remember, that the McCanns allowed their friends to check on their daughter.
 
Imagine if they came back and said she wasnt there? They'd all run back and find her bundled in a blood stained wardrobe. How do you exlain that mini accident?
 
Oh, dont tell me, you think the friends would go along with a cover up knowing this?
 
I'll get me coat!

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