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Re: Martin Grime facts and explanations

Post  lj on Mon May 30, 2011 11:27 pm

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littlepixie wrote:Does it mean the religious paraphenalia that is around cuddlecats neck? I have always had an uneasy feeling about the interest in Fatima. When I researched the shrine it details what is child abuse.

"According to Lúcia's account, Mary exhorted the children to do penance
to save sinners. They wore tight cords around their waists to cause
pain, abstained from drinking water on hot days, and other works of
penance.





I think that's exactly what it is ... I'm not Catholic but in rosary terms 'The Third Glorious Mystery' is connected with Our Lady of Fatima.

Rosaries are made out of all sorts of material (I have one that I inherited that was carved from animal bones during WW1) ... but this one is wood thumbsup







I visited both Lourdes and Fatima several times, huge difference in "ambiance". I was explained by a real catholic that Lourdes is for the "healing", also meant in spiritual sense, Fatima is for penance.

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Re: Martin Grime facts and explanations

Post  Guest on Tue May 31, 2011 11:16 am

an update to the report on page 1 :

Eddie the cadaver dog also signalled to the fire bucket, that contained the hidden key-card which was buried in sand.

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Re: Martin Grime facts and explanations

Post  candyfloss on Tue May 31, 2011 11:20 am

Stella wrote:an update to the report on page 1 :

Eddie the cadaver dog also signalled to the fire bucket, that contained the hidden key-card which was buried in sand.



And here's confirmation.................

At 04h50, a new inspection was performed by Eddy on the parking level -4 where the above car
key was concealed in an area far distant from the vehicle.
At 04h51, it was verified that the dog 'marked' the area of a sandbox [bucket of sand] of the Fire
System where the car key had been concealed beneath the sand.
... the present document has been duly signed:


http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/EDDIE-KEELA.htm

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Re: Martin Grime facts and explanations

Post  Guest on Tue May 31, 2011 2:27 pm

Here, Martin Grime confirms that Eddie has been alerting to the scent of cadaver, during his inspections:

“My professional opinion as regards to the EVRD's alert indications is that it is
suggestive that this is 'cadaver scent' contaminant”.


http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm#mg2473

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Re: Martin Grime facts and explanations

Post  Guest on Wed Jun 01, 2011 8:44 am

More on this subject can be read here in our library
http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t2043-evrd-and-csi-dogs


As a reminder for myself. The basic difference between a dog alerting to blood and a dog alerting to cadaver, is;

One will freeze on the spot, with their nose as close to the source of the blood as possible, but not touching. (Keela)

The other by barking when alerting to the scent of cadaver. (Eddie)

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Re: Martin Grime facts and explanations

Post  AskTheDogsSandra on Wed Jun 01, 2011 9:50 am

Stella wrote:More on this subject can be read here in our library
http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t2043-evrd-and-csi-dogs


As a reminder for myself. The basic difference between a dog alerting to blood and a dog alerting to cadaver, is;

One will freeze on the spot, with their nose as close to the source of the blood as possible, but not touching. (Keela)

The other by barking when alerting to the scent of cadaver. (Eddie)


You say Eddie alerts to both blood and cadaver....... so does that mean Eddie alerts to blood by freezing on the spot the same as Keela, so that his alerts can be differentiated, or does he just bark regardless of blood or cadaver?

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Re: Martin Grime facts and explanations

Post  LittleMissMolly on Wed Jun 01, 2011 10:02 am

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Stella wrote:More on this subject can be read here in our library
http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t2043-evrd-and-csi-dogs


As a reminder for myself. The basic difference between a dog alerting to blood and a dog alerting to cadaver, is;

One will freeze on the spot, with their nose as close to the source of the blood as possible, but not touching. (Keela)

The other by barking when alerting to the scent of cadaver. (Eddie)


You say Eddie alerts to both blood and cadaver....... so does that mean Eddie alerts to blood by freezing on the spot the same as Keela, so that his alerts can be differentiated, or does he just bark regardless of blood or cadaver?


My understanding is that he freezes for blood - just as Keela does - and barks for cadaver odour

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Re: Martin Grime facts and explanations

Post  Me on Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:33 pm

Just a thought from reading another forum.

The DNA which was tested by FSS, when was it collected from the apartment? It wasn't tested until August, was it collected in August or around 4/5th May?

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Re: Martin Grime facts and explanations

Post  candyfloss on Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:50 pm

Hi Me,

From the ticker running across the top of this forum it looks like August

."...PJ Case Files: "Between 15h00 on August 4th 2007 and 06h30 on August 5th 2007, the following samples were recovered in the living room of apartment 5A at the OCEAN CLUB where a murder probably took place.".....

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Re: Martin Grime facts and explanations

Post  candyfloss on Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:56 pm

I think those DNA samples taken in August (i.e blood specks and blood under tiles) were after the dogs went in. Earlier samples must have been taken when the forensice team went in on 4th May. Will have a look.

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