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What's in the book?

Post by Tony Bennett on 12.05.11 12:35

Unfortunately perhaps but early comments have been focussed on these three sentences on page 129 of the book:

"I asked Gerry apprehensively if he'd had any really horrible thoughts or visions of Madeleine. He nodded. Haltingly, I told him about the awful pictures that scrolled through my head of her body, her perfect little genitals torn apart".

The events of 3 May up to including the alleged 'discovery' that Madeleine was missing are dealt with fairly sketchily on pages 62 to 72. In summary, Dr K McCann has made an attempt to 'square' all the discrpancies about that day's events that we have been discussing, I would say not very successfully...I am sure there'll be much discussion about this in the ways to come. The way the complete contradiction between the evidence of Dr D Payne and Dr K McCann about his visit to the apartment has been dealt with is crafty i.e. well crafted, but really only papers over the series of sharp contradictions about this event (if it ever really happened).

There's not much about their private investigations, though Kevin Halligen gets a mention.

NOTE: Tony Bennett has now commented on the whole of Chapter 19 (pages 280-300 inc.) further down this thread on PAGE 5 - Admin.

Dr Kate writes (p. 283):

"We had one particularly bad experience with a man named Kevin Halligen (or Richard, as we knew him). Halligen was the CEO of a private-investigation foirm calld Oakley International which was hired by Madeleine's Fund for six months from the end of March 2008..."

She then refers to three 'phases' of the Halligen investigation, saying only that during the third phase, "...we began to have concerns".

Later (p. 284), she admits:

"Several months later, one of the investigators subcontracted by Oakley contacted us to demand paymet for his services. We had already settled Oakley's bill for this work months before, but apparently the company had not paid him. He was not the only one...We were upset..."

There is no mention whatsoever of any attempt by wither the McCanns or by the Find Madeleine Fund to sue Halligen for his obviously fraudulent conduct.


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Re: What's in the book?

Post by The Shelfstacker on 12.05.11 13:46

One wonders what CEOP would make of page 129. Or the NSPCC.

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Re: What's in the book?

Post by Guest on 12.05.11 14:12

littlepixie, I have also quoted your post in this thread, as it applies in here, and also carries a screenshot of the page

@littlepixie wrote:Has anyone seen Renoirs post on MM Page 119 of Kate McCanns book " "Haltingly, I told him about the awful pictures that scrolled through
my head of her body, her perfect little ge****ls torn apart".

Words fail me. I feel sick. The woman needs taking into custody.


It is on page 129 (not 119) - Admin.

I have to say I am totally shocked and appalled by this. What ever possessed her to put such things into a book, that she says she wanted Madeleine to read. How does this square with .............. Whoever she's with I hope she's giving them her tuppence worth???(Or words to that effect)

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Post by Get'emGonçalo on 12.05.11 14:15

Kate wants Maddie to read a book about her genitals and her mum's sex life.

She's only 8 years old.

No wonder Kate didn't bat an eyelid about what Dr Gaspar said in her statement to the police about David Payne making sexual gestures about Maddie.

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Post by Guest on 12.05.11 14:16

That is totally upsetting, can't find the words, and to have to read that on what would have been Madeleine's 8th birthday Crying or Very sad

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Re: What's in the book?

Post by littlepixie on 12.05.11 14:44

Thanks for the correction to the Page number. I felt a mixture of sadness, anger and sickness when I read the page and thought about the Gaspar statement. I am convinced that what Mrs McCann describes on Page 129 could be the reason Madeleines body had to be hidden.

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The Book

Post by maebee on 12.05.11 14:50

Pages from the book:

page 79: (re: Yvonne Martin) "(...) and I still don't really know who she is and what she was trying to achieve".

page 97: (re: father Pacheco coming to meet them on the evening of may 5th) "My first impression was of a very cheery chap. Nothing wrong with that, but at the time his smiling face seemed out of place in the grief-laden atmosphere of our apartment".

page 98: (re: speaking outside the church) "I know I was crying (...) and every word came from the heart"

Page 119: (beware ) "Haltingly, I told him about the awful pictures that scrolled through my head of her body, her perfect little genitals torn apart".



I find this last page extremely disturbing. It is just unbelievable that she could commit those thoughts to paper where the twins will one day be able to read it. KM is one seriously disturbed woman.

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Oh my God... I say I say...

Post by The Rooster on 12.05.11 14:57

That´s dreadful. Beyond belief.

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Re: What's in the book?

Post by Guest on 12.05.11 15:07

I have merged the topic "the Book" by maebee, in latest news, with this one as they are both the same.

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Re: What's in the book?

Post by maebee on 12.05.11 15:27

candyfloss wrote:I have merged the topic "the Book" by maebee, in latest news, with this one as they are both the same.

Thanks candy. Sorry for opening a duplicate thread. I didn't see this one. To be honest, I've been literally shaking since I first saw page 129. To put these thoughts so graphically into a book that all her family (including the twins) can read is beyond belief. I just cannot get my head around it.

Someone on another board said "Maybe this is the way Kate found Madeleine"

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Re: What's in the book?

Post by Guest on 12.05.11 15:28

@Tony Bennett wrote:Unfortunately perhaps but early comments have been focussed on these three sentences on page 129 of the book:

"I asked Gerry apprehensively if he'd had any really horrible thoughts or visions of Madeleine. He nodded. Haltingly, I told him about the awful pictures that scrolled through my head of her body, her perfect little genitals torn apart".



I am in a state of disbelief with that comment. No mother on this planet would ever consider this, let alone write about it. That woman has serious problems.

How can they claim Madeleine is still alive, then come out with something like that?

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Re: What's in the book?

Post by PeterMac on 12.05.11 15:56

I am not going to quote it again, but I refer to it.
Some time ago Mitchell said they had been advised not to show emotion in public because the alleged abductor might find it exciting, or words to that effect.
Now they say they WANT him to read what is little less than pederast pornography. They WANT that same person to read about their sex lives, and how her disappearance has adversely affected them, and incredibly they WANT their 8 year old daughter to do the same.
Are they reading it aloud to the twins when they put them to bed, instead of Peter Rabbit ?
What has Mitchell got to say now ?
And how do they maintain that Madeleine has come to no harm when Kate is now saying that very obviously for years they have known, like everyone else, that even in their strange invented Disney scenario she would have been, how shall we say, severely and seriously ill-treated, and that their own decision to go public on the eye defect would have signed her death warrant.



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What's in the book?

Post by Marian on 12.05.11 17:27

When it comes to marking the anniversaries of Madeleine's disappearance, I thought it would be difficult for the McCanns to come up with anything worse than last year's video with those disquieting images. Well, they have certainly trumped it with the publication of this book. I can only wonder what planet they and their supporters are on and for much longer they will be allowed to carry on their charade.

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Re: What's in the book?

Post by PeterMac on 12.05.11 17:56

I wonder if the Sun or the Mail will be publishing that particular sentence ?
And if not, why not ?
If it is OK for an 8 year old to read, - because they have said they hope Madeleine will read the book - then it must be OK for Sun and Mail readers too.

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Post by maebee on 12.05.11 17:58

@PeterMac wrote:I wonder if the Sun or the Mail will be publishing that particular sentence ?
And if not, why not ?
If it is OK for an 8 year old to read, - because they have said they hope Madeleine will read the book - then it must be OK for Sun and Mail readers too.

I believe it has been edited in The Sun. It has now disappeared from MCF and MM.

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Re: What's in the book?

Post by Cheshire Cat on 12.05.11 19:11

@maebee wrote:
@PeterMac wrote:I wonder if the Sun or the Mail will be publishing that particular sentence ?
And if not, why not ?
If it is OK for an 8 year old to read, - because they have said they hope Madeleine will read the book - then it must be OK for Sun and Mail readers too.

I believe it has been edited in The Sun. It has now disappeared from MCF and MM.

Very shocked to read that and the other similarly shocking extracts earlier in the week. The Gaspar statement and Yvonne Martin statements both express concerns about DAPy Doc, concerns which have multiplied in light of the Paedo Porn written by KM.

As these written words are very much on-line, shouldn't CEOP be notified? (With Gamble gone they might not fall on deaf ears!)

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Re: What's in the book?

Post by tiny on 12.05.11 19:17

who was the last person out of the tapas pals who was the last to see Madeleine,in light of that vile sentence kate wrote and the gasper's statement i think this is important.

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Re: What's in the book?

Post by Tony Bennett on 12.05.11 19:28

@tiny wrote:who was the last person out of the tapas pals who was the last to see Madeleine,in light of that vile sentence kate wrote and the gasper's statement i think this is important.
tiny, if I may say so, I think it is as well to dismiss from your mind the notion that we have anything approaching an accurate account from the McCanns and the 'Tapas 7' of the events of the afternoon and evening of 3 May 2007.

Coupled with the evidence of a death in the apartment, we perhaps need to look at events earlier in the week to explain what happened to Madeleine.

But you're right, the last person to see the missing or dead person alive is usually the key in the case of missing personss or unexplained deaths.

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Re: What's in the book?

Post by tiny on 12.05.11 19:33

thanks tony,so all this that was suposed to have happend on the thursday(abduction) was staged and what happend to Madeleine could have happend a day or so earlier

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Re: What's in the book?

Post by PeterMac on 12.05.11 19:38

Which is why the one who was supposed to have made the visit after Gerry was veryt quick to say he didn't actually look inside the room, but merely listened. Far too dangerous to be the last person.
Which then leaves us with Gerry as the last person,
Except that according to all her statements and now confirmed in the book Gerry did NOT make the visit he said he did. Otherwise it would be impossible for Kate to say that the door was open wider than "When WE had left it".
The book has been proof read by them, and by lawyers, and this has been left in.
It must therefore be accurate (musn't it ?)
It follows that Kate is saying clearly that Gerry did not make that visit and is therefore lying.
Why have they left that in. Why did they not alter the wording to something more woolly?
And that leaves K and G as the last ones, jointly, to see Madeleine at 8:30 ish. I do not include the word "alive' for obvious reasons.

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Post by Guest on 12.05.11 19:48

@PeterMac wrote:Which is why the one who was supposed to have made the visit after Gerry was veryt quick to say he didn't actually look inside the room, but merely listened. Far too dangerous to be the last person.
Which then leaves us with Gerry as the last person,
Except that according to all her statements and now confirmed in the book Gerry did NOT make the visit he said he did. Otherwise it would be impossible for Kate to say that the door was open wider than "When WE had left it".
The book has been proof read by them, and by lawyers, and this has been left in.
It must therefore be accurate (musn't it ?)
It follows that Kate is saying clearly that Gerry did not make that visit and is therefore lying.
Why have they left that in. Why did they not alter the wording to something more woolly?
And that leaves K and G as the last ones, jointly, to see Madeleine at 8:30 ish. I do not include the word "alive' for obvious reasons.


Ah but in the Piers Morgan interview on CNN (on again at 8pm tonight - sky 501) she is now very quick to say and include Matt in the scenario. She says something like, could Matt have left the door open wider than we had left it. She had never mentioned this before in all the interviews they've done.

I'm just off to watch it again, as there is something else that has piqued my interest. winkwink

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Re: What's in the book?

Post by Letterwriter on 12.05.11 20:05

The sentence on p119 is something I wish I could "unread". Unfortunately, I think it will be difficult to get it out of my head.

It's on page 129 of the book for future reference - Admin.

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CHAPTER 11

Post by Tony Bennett on 12.05.11 22:32

SUMMARY AND CRITIQUE OF KATE'S BOOK

I will try and post a 'summary of critique' of each chapter of Dr Kate's book over the next few days.

I'll begin with Chapter 12, titled 'Morocco':

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SUMMARY AND CRITIQUE

Chapter 12 ‘ Morocco’

p. 179

The chapter begins with the McCanns flying out to Rabat, Morocco, on Sunday 12 June.

Dr Kate was ‘terrified’ flying in a small ‘pre-war propeller plane’ because the jet for Morocco had broken down.

At a hotel in Rabat a camera crew was waiting for them.

p. 180

They had questions about a statement by Mari Olli, a Norwegian who swore she’d seen Madeleine in Marrakesh and had rung the Spanish police. Dr Kate explains how the Spanish and Portuguese police did nothing about it. The CCTV camera in the shop wasn’t checked in time. Dr Kate insists in the book that the girl Mari Olli saw could really be Madeleine.

They spent that night at the British Ambassador’s Morocco residence.

The following day the McCanns met several ‘important and powerful figures’, the Chief of Police and two government Ministers among them - they ‘must have had permission from the King of Morocco’.

p. 181

Later that day the McCanns met a ‘crowd of children’ who were waving placards with Madeleine on them; this had been organised by the government. The McCanns met with some Muslim leaders and asked them to pray for Madeleine which they agreed to do. Telling a slight white lie, they said they ‘lived in Leicester’, where there are a lot of Muslims. (There aren’t many Muslims in Rothley).

p. 182

Clarence was out there with them and they had to say goodbye to Clarence who had to go back to his job at the Media Monitoring Unit for a while.

p. 183

On 22 June Justine McGuiness arrived. Dr Kate recounts the story of the Dutch newspaper publishing a report of how Madeleine might be buried at Odiaxere, which turned out to be false.

In one of many passages in this book about Dr Kate’s emotions, she says: “…cold hard reality was hitting me with a sickening thud” and she goes on to refer to her “suffocating fear”.

p. 184

On 17 June there was a report in the Portuguese press claiming that the PJ said that ‘the crime scene was contaminated by the McCanns and their friends’. Dr Kate says: “I was livid” and “…this hurt badly”. (In fact, around 16-18 people tramped round the alleged scene of the crime - their apartment - before the police arrived).

Dr Kate reports how Gerry reacted with fiery indignation and rang John Buck, the Ambassador, Bill Henderson, the Consul, Bob Small from leicestershire C.O.D. and Ricardo Paiva demanding ‘an explanation and redress’.

pp. 185-6

Alex Woofall told them all not to talk to any reporter because ‘there was nothing to be gained’ by doing so. That led to the ‘Pact of Silence’ story which Dr Kate says was the first negative story about them. She complains that someone had given all their friends their mobile ’phone numbers, Dr Kate says it could only be someone in the PJ.

pp. 186-7

The McCanns are approached by Danie Krugel who speaks of his ‘matter orientation system’. He needs some of Madeleine’s hairs to establish where she is. The McCanns are ‘excited’ and arrange to get five hairs and two eyelashes from Madeleine pillow and clothing and they are duly despatched to Mr Krugel. He comes back soon and pinpoints Madeleine as still in Praia da Luz, but says he needs to come to the Algarve to get a more precise location. The McCanns agree. Krugel doesn’t let anyone examine his machine ‘to protect my trade secrets’.

p. 188

Dr Kate raises with police inspector Luis Neves the significance of her friends Fiona, Rachael and Russell all saying they reported seeing Robert Murat hanging around the Ocean Club on the night Madeleine was reported missing. Luis Neves reacts and gets agitatated, snapping: ‘No, Kate!’

The chapter ends with more emotion: “There were so many unanswered questions going round and round my brain; so many days when all I wanted to do was pull the duvet over my head and for it all to go away”.

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Post by Tony Bennett on 12.05.11 23:27

SUMMARY AND CRITIQUE

Chapter 13 ‘ The Tide Turns’

p. 189

On 5 July the McCanns discuss with Inspector Luis Neves their outrage with the ‘Pact of Silence’ article and the leaks of their friends’ mobile ’phone nos. to the police.

p. 190

Dr Kate agonises over the press involvement: “No longer was it about our lovely missing daughter; it was becoming the Kate and Gerry show”.

p. 191

We hear how the McCanns suddenly learnt about all the world’s ‘missing, exploited and trafficked children’ and started campaigning: they felt “…a moral obligation to try to do something to make Europe a safer place for all children”

p. 192

Gerry spent almost an hour on the ’phone to important people in Washington and afterwards Dr Kate says Gerry was ‘almost radiant’ (but obviously not quite) at the prospect of a trip to Washington.

p. 193

The attempt by a Dutch man to extort money, his arrest and prosecution is covered in some detail.

pp. 193-4

The McCanns get an invitation to lunch from Sir Clement Freud, who has a house in Praia da Lyz. The McCanns accept and all go along with Trish and Sandy Cameron and Justine McGuiness. They all go along at mid-day. Clement Freud opened the meeting by asking Dr Kate: “Can I interest you in a strawberry vodka?” Dr Kate says: “Er, OK then, That would be nice” She enthuses about the lunch: “Lunch was bloody marvellous: watercress and egg salad followed by a chicken and mushroom risotto - the best risotto we’ve ever tasted before or since. Clement cheered us up with his lugubrious wit…” They later kept in touch by e-mail.

p. 195

Dinner at Ricardo Paiva’s house: “…it was a good evening, though I found it hard to allow myself to really relax and enjoy it. Ricardo made us a great martini and his wife had prepared a fantastic meal”.

The McCanns move to the villa on 2 July.

p. 196

Dr Kate writes of the ‘confrontation’ between Robert Murat and Fiona, Rachael and Russell on 11 July at Portimao Police Station as to whether he was outside the Ocean Club the night Madeleine was reported missing. Dr Kate says they were sitting so close their knees were practically touching each other; Murat eyeballed each of them intently as they were speaking.

pp. 196-7

Gerry gets invited by the Rupert Murdoch-owned Sun newspaper to a ‘Bravery Awards’ police ceremony in London. He is applauded there. Before that, he spends the afternoon having a tour of CEOP HQ.

On July 15 and 16 Danie Krugel is in town with his ‘matter orientation system’ which he claims is ‘80% successful’. They are not sure about him but want to make sure ‘no stone is left unturned’. Dr Kate says she is “…so destroyed, so consumed by our pain and fear…we felt our role as [Sean and Amelie’s] parents had been compromised’.

pp. 198-9

Dr Kate: “Maternal guilt often weighed heavily on my shoulders…I was so engulfed by Madeleine that I worried I might not have enough love left over for Sean and Amelie. Something else to beat myself up about”.

Wednesday 18 July marked ‘a turning point’. Speaking of the PJ investigation, she writes: “…their lack of progress whipped up a storm of fury in me that was completely out of character. It seems to me now as if for several months I was possessed by some demonic alien that infiltrated my thoughts and filled me with anger and hatred. I needed a face on which to pin all this rage, someone to blame. And although, as I now know, the PJ had no case against Murat, they handed him to me on a plate. Since they had insinuated throughout that he might be the person responsible for the unimaginable fear and pain suffered by our little girl, is it any wonder I felt as I did?”

Later in the meeting the PJ said that Danie Krugel’s machine had come up with a ‘static signal’ that suggested that Madeleine might be dead and buried on the beach, close to the Rocha Negra cliff. This ‘plunged me into despair’. “There would be endless tears, out-of-control hysteria and feverish sessions of prayer. And there would be several visits to ‘my rocks’ - a quiet part of the beach away from the promenade...here I would simply sob to a friend on the ’phone for hours on end…I still go back there on my visits to Praia da Luz to be on my own”.

p. 200

On 20 July the PJ asked the National Policing Improvements Agency for ‘advisory assistance’. A Serious Organised Crime Officer, Jose de Freitas, who was bilingual, came over to Portugal to help with the enquiry. “We found out later (much later) that the UK team had been instructed by the PJ to proceed on the basis that Madeleine had been killed and her body dumped”.

p. 201

Dr Kate: “At this stage, I was also still giving some credence to the information [sic] we were receiving from psychics, some of whom were suggesting that we should scour nearby territory again”.

On 22 July the Sunday Express ran the headline: ‘MADDY’S PARENTS TO FACE INQUIRY’. It was “incredibly hurtful…”

Dr Kate: “However unwittingly, we’d given this predator an opportunity”.

p. 202

“We had not been there for Madeleine. And, as I’ve said before and will say again, our guilt over that is a heavy cross we will bear for the rest of our lives…the abductor must have been smiling smugly to himself and thinking: ‘Keep blaming the parents, just leave me out of it, hidden and anonymous, to carry on doing what I do - stealing children”.

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Post by ROSA on 12.05.11 23:59

i hope Maddie reads it!

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