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Post by sharonl on 15.04.11 23:14

Reopening the wounds: Kate McCann visits Maddie's room twice a day and the pain is raw. But she hopes her book will revive the hunt




By Natalie Clarke
Last updated at 10:26 PM on 15th April 2011




Earlier this week, Kate McCann signed off the final chapter of her book about her lost daughter, Madeleine. It is now with the publishers, and a rush is on to have the book edited, printed and on sale by the planned publication date of May 12, which will be Madeleine’s eighth birthday.
The book, simply entitled Madeleine, gives Kate’s account, in her own words, of her daughter’s disappearance during a family holiday in Praia da Luz, Portugal, in May 2007, and the dramatic events that followed.
Four years after Madeleine’s disappearance, there is, sadly, still no prospect of an epilogue to the book anytime soon, answering that heart-rending mystery: Where is Maddie?


Anguish: Gerry and Kate McCann make an appeal for the safe return of their daughter, Madeleine

As the years have passed, the answer to that question seems more elusive than ever.
The trail seemed to go stone-cold long ago, and all new leads appear to be red herring after red herring.
Kate and Gerry McCann are desperate to reignite the search for their daughter, but where do they start?
With Kate’s book, it would seem. Close friends say the McCanns are pinning all their hopes on Kate’s story prompting someone, somewhere, to come forward with new information.
The aim of the book is two-fold: to put Madeleine’s disappearance back in the spotlight, and to raise funds so that the McCanns’ team of private investigators can continue their work in trying to find her.


Still missing: It is now almost four years since Maddie was abducted. Her family fear the case has gone cold

Reliving those first terrifying days after Madeleine vanished, and charting the dramatic events in the months that followed when even Kate and Gerry became suspects in their daughter’s disappearance, has been an intensely painful experience for Kate.
The tortured look that has been etched on the 42-year-old doctor’s face since Madeleine’s disappearance is still in evidence, and friends say she looks tired, thin and drawn.
Kate began writing the book five months ago on the computer in her study at the family home in Rothley, Leicestershire.
A family friend describes how she would write through the day, while the couple’s six-year-old twins, Sean and Amelie, were at school, and then return to her study to write late into the evening after the children had gone to bed.
‘Nothing is more important to us than finding our little girl. Our hope is that the book may prompt those who have relevant information (knowingly or not) to come forward and share it with our team.’




She turned down the offer of a ghost writer because she wanted the book to be in her own words.
Pouring intense emotion into the book has given Kate a sense of focus, as well as renewed hope that Madeleine will be found.
Meeting publishing deadlines has also given Kate a feeling that she is doing something both positive and purposeful in her struggle to discover what has happened to her hazel-eyed daughter.
The McCanns hope sales of the book will raise more than £1million for Madeleine’s fund. The book’s launch will be accompanied by several television interviews.
‘Nothing is more important to us than finding our little girl,’ Kate writes on the Find Madeleine website.

‘Our hope is that the book may prompt those who have relevant information (knowingly or not) to come forward and share it with our team.’
The publication of this book will propel the family back onto the world’s front pages and, as Kate herself remarks, they embark on this latest chapter in the Maddie story with very heavy hearts.
The McCanns’ fateful decision to leave Madeleine alone in a Portuguese holiday apartment with their then two-year-old twins, while they dined with friends at a nearby tapas bar, was one of the most controversial stories of the decade.

Criticised: Goncalo Amaral, the Policia Judiciaria inspector who led the investigation into Maddie's disappearence

There were even lingering suspicions, however unfair given that the allegations made against the couple have never been substantiated and the McCanns have been totally exonerated, that they had somehow been involved in their daughter’s disappearance.
But in the months that followed, the Portuguese policeman heading the investigation, Goncalo Amaral, became suspicious that the McCanns were somehow involved in their daughter’s disappearance. There were claims of inconsistencies in the couple’s account of what they did on the night in question, and criticism that Kate didn’t seem ‘emotional’ enough in the wake of what had happened.
Once subjective suspicion and groundless rumour were stripped away, however, Amaral’s ‘case’ against the McCanns was based almost entirely on the evidence of two springer spaniels.
When the police dogs barked after being let loose in the apartment from which Madeleine had gone missing, Amaral saw it as apparent confirmation that they had detected blood and ‘the scent of death’ at the apartment.
Amaral became convinced that Madeleine had died accidentally in the apartment, and that her parents had then staged an elaborate cover-up.
The couple were formally declared ‘arguidos’ — meaning suspects — in September 2007, four months after Madeleine’s disappearance. That ‘arguido’ status was lifted a year later.
But false suspicions about the McCanns had been stirred, and sadly opprobrium amongst some lingers to this day.
For these reasons, the launch of the book will be low-key. Kate will not be doing any signings because she has serious fears about being subjected to verbal abuse, or even physical attack.


The first of many: The McCanns give a statement to the media in Portugal in the days immediately after Maddie was abducted

‘Kate doesn’t want to give anyone the opportunity to have a go at her during any promotional tour,’ a friend told the Mail. ‘Just writing the book has been emotional enough.’
As an example of the deep unpleasantness the McCanns have to deal with, you have to go no further than an organisation called The Madeleine Foundation, which has a website demanding answers from the McCanns to some 163 questions concerning the case.
The group, which comprises 28 members but claims it has thousands of supporters who have looked at the website, has already written to the McCanns’ publishers, Transworld, requesting answers to its 163 questions and is planning to step up its campaign to coincide with the publication of the book.
Around the time Kate McCann was finishing her book this week, the organisation was taking delivery of 10,000 leaflets entitled ‘What happened to Madeleine McCann: 50 facts about the case that the British media are not telling you.’

It now plans to distribute them to homes and shops across the country. The leaflet is divided into four sections: 1) Major contradictions in the statements of the McCanns and their friends. 2) The highly trained police dogs who detected the scent of a corpse. 3) Strange things the McCanns have said and done. 4) How the McCanns wasted public money on useless private detectives.


Crime scene: The bedroom from where Maddie was snatched

In 2009, 30,000 similar leaflets were distributed around the country — including Kate and Gerry’s home town — before the McCanns' lawyers, Carter-Ruck, obtained a High Court undertaking from the group’s secretary, retired solicitor Tony Bennett, to halt the leafleting.
He also agreed to stop sales of a book he had written, entitled What Really Happened To Madeleine McCann: 60 Reasons To Suggest She Was Not Abducted.
‘Many people subscribe to the view, to one degree or another, that we are not being told the whole truth,’ says Mr Bennett, seemingly oblivious to the pain he is causing the couple.
Just as cruel as The Madeleine Foundation are a number of internet sites established with the sole purpose, it would seem, of smearing the couple. Online comments from the public on such sites are often poisonous in the extreme — vitriol likely to intensify after the book goes on sale.
The McCanns have taken successful legal action to prevent the publication in Britain of Amaral’s book about the case, The Truth Of The Lie, in which he repeats his hypothesis that the McCanns were involved, but key extracts of the book are available online, fuelling the McCanns’ torment still further.
It has, of course, been impossible for Kate and Gerry to lead a normal life after all they have been through.
For the first few years after Madeleine disappeared, Kate was a virtual recluse. She gave up her part-time position as a GP at a practice in Melton Mowbray, closeting herself away in the family’s smart new-build home in a quiet cul-de-sac.

Feeling the strain: From the moment her daughter went missing, Kate McCann has been under constant pressure

She felt too depressed and anguished to venture far, and found it hard to deal with the stares she would get when she was out and about.

Over the past year or so, however, she has begun to circulate more often. Each morning, she prepares breakfast for the twins before seeing them off to their Roman Catholic primary school.
The school still holds a place for Madeleine, who was enrolled to become a pupil there in September 2007. Such details are a heart-breaking reminder of the little girl the McCanns have lost.
Once the twins are at school, Kate goes for a long run around the country lanes close by. At weekends, she is often seen out and about with the twins in the village, taking them to swimming and dancing lessons at a local leisure centre.
She also sets aside time twice a day to sit quietly in Madeleine’s bedroom, which friends say brings her comfort and solace. The twins sometimes play in the room, but it is off-limits to visitors.
Gerry, 41, works long hours as a heart specialist at a teaching hospital in Leicester, often cycling to work and back.
Most Sundays, the family walk together to Mass at their local Roman Catholic church, where prayers continue to be said for Madeleine’s safe return to her family.
Kate and Gerry do not socialise much these days, but remain close to their friends, David and Fiona Payne, who were part of the group dubbed the ‘Tapas Nine’ after they dined together on the night Madeleine vanished.
Friends say that Kate and Gerry remain close, although the agony of losing Madeleine has inevitably placed strains upon them.
In the past year, Kate has made a couple of trips alone back to Praia da Luz, staying with the local Anglican priest, Haynes Hubbard, and his wife, Susan, who have become close friends. Kate feels closer to her daughter there.

She and Gerry have been bitterly frustrated by the lack of progress made by private detectives.
One particularly inept Spanish outfit, Metodo 3, promised to have Madeleine home by Christmas. That was the Christmas of 2007.
Another detective, Kevin Halligen, is alleged to have conned the McCanns out of £300,000 and is currently fighting extradition to the U.S. on other fraud claims.
But the McCanns are said to be happy with their current team, led by former British police detectives Dave Edgar and Arthur Cowley.
Various individuals continue to emerge, claiming to know Madeleine’s whereabouts. In February, Marcellino Italiano, an Angolan-born nightclub bouncer, claimed she had been snatched by an Algarve-based paedophile ring which smuggled her into America.
To the McCanns’ intense frustration, the Madeleine police files have been officially abandoned.
The couple are calling for the case to be reopened, and have launched an online petition in support of that call, which they are asking supporters to sign. When they have 50,000 signatures on it, they will take their case to the Home Secretary.
For now, however, they are hoping Kate’s book will succeed where every other attempt to find Madeleine has not, prompting someone finally to come forward with the crucial piece of information that will unlock the mystery.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1377420/Kate-McCann-hopes-book-revive-hunt-Madeleine.html#ixzz1JdHV0BrE

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Re: Reopening the wounds:

Post by Guest on 15.04.11 23:24

Thanks sharonl thumbsup

How many times are we going to hear this same old story.

Err but when did this happen, I have not heard that Mr Amaral's book has been banned in Britain???????

The McCanns have taken successful legal action to prevent the publication in Britain of Amaral’s book about the case, The Truth Of The Lie, in which he repeats his hypothesis that the McCanns were involved, but key extracts of the book are available online, fuelling the McCanns’ torment still further.

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Re: Reopening the wounds:

Post by sharonl on 15.04.11 23:28

Candyfloss

There is so much wrong with that article.

No doubt we will be replying to it but that could take a while.

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Re: Reopening the wounds:

Post by maebee on 16.04.11 0:05

@sharonl wrote:Candyfloss

There is so much wrong with that article.

No doubt we will be replying to it but that could take a while.

Hi Sharon,

I agree that there is a lot wrong with the article. i.e.

The McCanns have taken successful legal action to prevent the publication in Britain of Amaral’s book about the case, The Truth Of The Lie.


But the Mail have sneaked a lot into this article:
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The McCanns’ fateful decision to leave Madeleine alone in a Portuguese holiday apartment with their then two-year-old twins, while they dined with friends at a nearby tapas bar, was one of the most controversial stories of the decade.



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But in the months that followed, the Portuguese policeman heading the investigation, Goncalo Amaral, became suspicious that the McCanns were somehow involved in their daughter’s disappearance. There were claims of inconsistencies in the couple’s account of what they did on the night in question, and criticism that Kate didn’t seem ‘emotional’ enough in the wake of what had happened.



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When the police dogs barked after being let loose in the apartment from which Madeleine had gone missing, Amaral saw it as apparent confirmation that they had detected blood and ‘the scent of death’ at the apartment.



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Amaral became convinced that Madeleine had died accidentally in the apartment, and that her parents had then staged an elaborate cover-up.



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As an example of the deep unpleasantness the McCanns have to deal with, you have to go no further than an organisation called The Madeleine Foundation, which has a website demanding answers from the McCanns to some 163 questions concerning the case.
The group, which comprises 28 members but claims it has thousands of supporters who have looked at the website, has already written to the McCanns’ publishers, Transworld, requesting answers to its 163 questions and is planning to step up its campaign to coincide with the publication of the book.
Around the time Kate McCann was finishing her book this week, the organisation was taking delivery of 10,000 leaflets entitled ‘What happened to Madeleine McCann: 50 facts about the case that the British media are not telling you.’

It now plans to distribute them to homes and shops across the country. The leaflet is divided into four sections: 1) Major contradictions in the statements of the McCanns and their friends. 2) The highly trained police dogs who detected the scent of a corpse. 3) Strange things the McCanns have said and done. 4) How the McCanns wasted public money on useless private detectives.



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Many people subscribe to the view, to one degree or another, that we are not being told the whole truth,’ says Mr Bennett



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She felt too depressed and anguished to venture far, and found it hard to deal with the stares she would get when she was out and about

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One particularly inept Spanish outfit, Metodo 3, promised to have Madeleine home by Christmas. That was the Christmas of 2007.



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Another detective, Kevin Halligen, is alleged to have conned the McCanns out of £300,000 and is currently fighting extradition to the U.S. on other fraud claims.

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Post by PeterMac on 16.04.11 7:46

I agree. The article as a whole says a lot of things which have not been put together in that way before, nor put to that target audience in that way. I wouldn't be too hard on it. The journo. will have been under considerable constraints, and to have squeezed in all those details and got them past the sub-editor is quite remarkable. IMHO

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Post by Cheshire Cat on 16.04.11 8:51

@PeterMac wrote:I agree. The article as a whole says a lot of things which have not been put together in that way before, nor put to that target audience in that way. I wouldn't be too hard on it. The journo. will have been under considerable constraints, and to have squeezed in all those details and got them past the sub-editor is quite remarkable. IMHO

I agree with Peter - remarkable to see the headings of the leaflet in the Mail ! Harks back to the early days when the Express reported the findings of the dogs but packaged it in an article that looked as if they were being sympathetic to the McCanns.

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Post by sharonl on 16.04.11 9:06

I would suggest that we contact the journalist and the editor of the Dail Mail, politely saying something along the lines of “In the interest of good investigative journalism, we would like to make the following comments on your article which we appears to be incorrect in certain areas, here are the facts backed up with evidence for your future reference".

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Post by Guest on 16.04.11 9:09

I think the Mail are definitely slipping in things which they would never have done previously. In the past they would have just said the MF were harrassing the McCanns etc., but now they actually are printing the questions the MF are asking i.e. this bit would never have appeared before........

Around the time Kate McCann was finishing her book this week, the organisation was taking delivery of 10,000 leaflets entitled ‘What happened to Madeleine McCann: 50 facts about the case that the British media are not telling you.’

It now plans to distribute them to homes and shops across the country. The leaflet is divided into four sections: 1) Major contradictions in the statements of the McCanns and their friends. 2) The highly trained police dogs who detected the scent of a corpse. 3) Strange things the McCanns have said and done. 4) How the McCanns wasted public money on useless private detectives
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Readers are going to read this and think hmmmmmmmm. The MF will get a lot more hits yet again thumbsup I agree with maebee they have slipped a lot into this article.

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Post by PeterMac on 16.04.11 9:09

And the references to The Madeleine Foundation, together with the information that there is a website; references to the leaflets, 50 facts, 60 reasons, Mr Amaral's book, the reference to Carter-Ruck, alerting people to where their money has been wasted or spent and so on are all, so far as I can see, accurate. For anyone interested a simple google seach will find them.
All in all I think it is a very interestingly written article. Although the article uses some words critical of the MF, it does not seem to dwell on that. The few comments so far are to be expected. I wait to see if my slightly critical one will get through.

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Post by sharonl on 16.04.11 9:17

candyfloss wrote:

Readers are going to read this and think hmmmmmmmm. The MF will get a lot more hits yet again .

This started late last night, we should also have to remember to also thank the Daily Mail

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Mail article like Janus, facing both ways

Post by Tony Bennett on 16.04.11 9:45

@PeterMac wrote:I agree. The article as a whole says a lot of things which have not been put together in that way before, nor put to that target audience in that way. I wouldn't be too hard on it. The journo. will have been under considerable constraints, and to have squeezed in all those details and got them past the sub-editor is quite remarkable. IMHO
In line with the comments by PeterMac above, Cheshire Cat and others, here is an observation just published by 'frencheuropean' on the MM forum:

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The Daily Mail article is like Janus, with two faces.

One turned in direction of the poor McCanns, whose daughter was abducted - and the other one in direction of the deceptive McCanns whose daughter died by accident and who invented the whole abduction story to cover their involvement in her death.

After having said that, the readers have the choice to follow the people who believe in the first scenario and whose the main feeling is the pity for the suffering parents, or the second one, whose the main feeling is the indignation increasing each time the McCanns beg for more money to carry on their trickery.

OK, the article is apparently pro-McCann, but they spread out, bit by bit, little pebbles to guide people in the right direction.

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[ P.S. The Mail journalist, Natalie Clarke, who contacted me on Thursday, was neutral and unemotive in her questioning of me about the work of The Madeleine Foundation. She did not put any question to me about any alleged hurt and pain caused to the McCanns by our work. The leaflets have been going out for the past few days, with some good results being reported already ]

[ P.P.S. The Mail and Google have combined gloriously to provide this priceless Google Alert, just released in the past few minutes: ]


Kate McCann hopes book will revive hunt for Madeleine | Mail Online
Reopening the wounds: Kate McCann visits Maddie's room twice a day and the pain is .... 50 facts about the case that the British media are not telling you. ...
www.dailymail.co.uk/.../Kate-McCann-hopes-book-revive-hu...

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Post by PeterMac on 16.04.11 11:10

Interesting set of comments developing on the DM article (11:10am Sat)

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Post by PeterMac on 16.04.11 13:39

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DM still accepting comments, and some even more interesting ones have been allowed through. Including mine and yours TB. (if you are Tony, Essex.)

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Facts instead of smoke and mirrors

Post by Tony Bennett on 16.04.11 15:01

@PeterMac wrote:13:37
DM still accepting comments, and some even more interesting ones have been allowed through. Including mine and yours TB. (if you are Tony, Essex.)
'Tony from Essex' is not me in fact.

What is just as interesting as the comments being allowed through is the anount of support (green arrows) and opposition (red arrows) to the comments.

That most definitely tells a story.

The response to the new '50 FACTS' thread opened by me at 8am today here:

http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t2320-50-facts

...is also instructive; 663 hits so far in 7 hours. But not only that, it is clear from the 'views' for other articles in the Research Library that new visitors are clicking on to some of the other articles as well. That can't be bad, and shows that the Daily Mail's article is prompting new interest in the facts behind Madeleine's disappearance instead of the smoke and mirrors from the McCann camp.

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Post by Get'emGonçalo on 16.04.11 15:05

I've distributed the first batch, Tony, will be glad to receive some more at your convenience.

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Post by Tony Bennett on 16.04.11 15:11

Get 'em Gonçalo wrote:I've distributed the first batch, Tony, will be glad to receive some more at your convenience.

Thank you, and thank you also for your private comments on the success of your first batch of deliveries. I'll be bundling up many packages, including yours, during tomorrow.

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Post by littlepixie on 16.04.11 17:33

There is another Tony Bennett from Harlow who is "asking that the parents be left alone to carry on searching" on the comments section.

Is that you Tomy?

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Post by poppydog on 16.04.11 17:45

There's currently a thread on Mumnet, Am I being unreasonable section. Loads of very harmless posts are being removed quickly, simply for expressing disgust at the negligence level of the McCanns. What power these people have!

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Post by MikeyB on 16.04.11 17:53

@littlepixie wrote:There is another Tony Bennett from Harlow who is "asking that the parents be left alone to carry on searching" on the comments section.

Is that you Tomy?

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Going green!

Post by Tony Bennett on 16.04.11 19:44

Neither of the two comments below are from me, but one of them (the first) is from another member of this forum:

Why does everybody ignore the cadaver and blood dog's findings in this case? They have NEVER been wrong...EVER.
- Tony, Essex, 16/4/2011 10:19


Leave the parents alone, and let them continue searching for their daughter.
- Tony Bennett, Harlow Essex, 16/4/2011 12:36


The first one of those two has now been whoosh...clunked by the Daily Mail - but not before over 120 green arrows had appeared alongside!

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13 'Mail' comments reproduced here (out of 165)

Post by Tony Bennett on 17.04.11 0:26

The Daily Mail has allowed 165 comments to remain and a reasonably fair selection I think.

I've selected a few comments for interest:


I want to read the book when it comes out. Kate says it will be a "Version of the truth", not "The Truth", we note. I am still waiting to see the evidence for an abduction'.

- PeterMac, Ronda, Spain, 16/4/2011 11:09 Rating PLUS 286

A forum member

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I wouldn't wish to take on the emotions of Kate or her husband for a billion pounds.

- Philip Hughes, Croydon, UK, 15/4/2011 23:29 Rating PLUS 905

The second most popular comment

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Goncalo Amarals book was never banned in Britain. It was only banned in Portugal, and it has since been un-banned. Please try to get your facts right!!!

- Chrissie, Aberdeen, 15/4/2011 23:33 Rating: PLUS 733

The third most popular comment

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want to read the book, and have ordered my copy, to see what evidence there was for the abduction.

- PeterMac, Ronda, Spain, 16/4/2011 10:14 Rating: PLUS 134

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I'd rather read Amaral's book.

- PQ, Malibu, 16/4/2011 10:26 Rating: PLUS 291

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Let me just remind you all of the fact that the Mccans refused to answer 48 pertinent questions in regards to Maddy’s dissaperance.... here is the article in case you've all forgotten. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1041635/The-48-questions-Kate-McCann-wouldnt-answer--did.html


- Marie Knows Best, Manchester, 16/4/2011 11:04 Rating: PLUS 322

They have NOT been exonerated. Get your facts right, DM.

- Kara, Lancashire, UK, 16/4/2011 11:46 Rating: PLUS 409

One of the highest ratings

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Perhaps Kate will explain her reasons for refusing to answer the questions which may have assisted the police in the search for Madeleine......

- R. Hodgson, Leicester, 16/4/2011 14:13 Rating: PLUS 94

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What is the difference between a version of the truth and the truth. I don't like the way they seem to talk in riddles.

- MaryM, Manchester, 16/4/2011 13:48 Rating: PLUS 54

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"The Madeleine Foundation seems to be a rather sinister, vicious bunch of malicious interfering obsessives - I felt a bit unclean just being it its website." I tried to have a look at their website but my virus scanner warned me for a malicious script and stopped me from opening it. You'd better check your computer for any malware. I hope this family will get closure, the sooner the better.

- Barbra, Holland, 16/4/2011 12:12 Rating: MINUS 128

The opinions of Barbra - rated down

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And what hapenned to my family: Gonçalo Amaral (brother in law) , my sister Sofia Leal and my litle nieces Rita and Inês? Please think on them also?

- Armanda Leal, Portugal, 16/4/2011 12:46 Rating: PLUS 240

An anguished appeal from Goncalo Amaral's sister-in-law

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I had a look at the Madeleine Foundation internet site and have to say I disagree with the statement that it is cruel and I certainly do not think it's sole purpose is to smear the McCann's. I was asking some of those questions way back, and would love to know the answers, this is not an open and shut case and should not be treated as such!

- Debbie, Somewhere England, 16/4/2011 12:59 Rating: PLUS 308

One of thousands who's had a look at our website today

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The very same dogs were also wrong at the Haut de la Garenne as well you know Tony Bennett now stop stalking this family and telling complete and utter lies about them.

- Charlie, Salisbury Wiltshire., 16/4/2011 13:30 Rating: MINUS 24

A McCann-believer?

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The McCanns did NOT leave their children alone any more than a parent who is downstairs when their children are in bed or outside on a summer evening. Were they expected to stay in the apartment all night with a takeaway and the tv? They were on holiday in a relaxed atmosphere, the apartment was within sight and children were regularly checked. It must be wonderful to be able to sit in such effortless judgement on other people knowing you have never made a mistake in your life. A great many people must look at this case and think there but for the grace of God go I or someone I know.

- David, Harrogate UK, 16/4/2011 11:59 Rating: MINUS 689

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