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Disappearance/Murder of Kate Prout

Post  candyfloss on Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:50 am

Did anyone watch Murder in Suburbia last night on CI channel? It was very interesting.

Kate Prout disappeared from her home one day and her husband was eventually charged with her murder. There was no body, and only a teeny bit of circumstantial evidence, ie her diaries and that he had been violent towards her in the past, and that she was going to divorce him and force him to sel the farm to get her half share.

The interesting bit was that Eddie the sniffer dog was brought in and signalled in the house behind the sofa and the patio door just like the MM case. The police had forensics go through the house but found nothing to incriminate him, and they suspected he must have strangled her as there was not blood etc. He was convicted of her murder on flimsy evidence. They also said his demenour was not right.



Here is some background info

Detective reveals 'frustrations' of Kate Prout murder investigation
3:50pm Friday 5th February 2010

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THE leading police officer investigating the disappearance of farmer's wife Kate Prout today revealed the "frustrating" nature of the case.

Hundreds of police combed the 270 acre farm they shared days after Kate Prout vanished following a divorce settlement row in November 2007.

Officers painstakingly searched Redhill Farm in Redmarley, Glos, for five weeks from November 14.

The search was the biggest ever mounted in Gloucestershire and involved underwater search teams, aerial surveillance and ground penetrating radar.

Officers even sifted through animal excrement in the belief she may have been fed to the pigs.

The search failed to unearth a body, but Prout was still charged with her murder on March 10, 2008. Today, after Prout was found guilty of her murder following a three week trial at Bristol Crown Court, the lead officer in the case revealed the difficulties with a 'no body' murder.

Acting Detective Superintendent Neil Kelly, from Gloucestershire Police, has led the investigation since Kate's disappearance over two years ago.

He said: "The fact that we never had a body meant we had to introduce far more circumstantial evidence to try and establish certain facts in a much more difficult way.

"It has been a very frustrating investigation in that respect. We had to prove that Kate was dead, without a body. We had to prove that someone killed her, and finally that Adrian Prout was the one who did it.

"The types of enquiries we had to undertake to prove these have been extremely challenging."

Det Supt Kelly revealed that Adrian was the number one suspect from the day Kate was reported missing, and that Prout's behaviour remained consistent after his arrest and throughout subsequent interviews
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"Adrian has always been a major suspect, the major suspect in fact," he added.

"There were some key facts that were obvious early on that could reasonably lead you to believe that Adrian Prout was the number one suspect.

"Not least is the fact he left it five days to report her missing.

"And he only did so after he was virtually persuaded to do so by a concerned relative.

"In terms of his demeanor and attitude, Adrian remained consistent throughout.

"He's been very calm, almost unconcerned throughout. In terms of what he's said, he has in part been been consistent, but in key areas, his account has changed to the extent we would say he's been lying. "One aspect is the discussion they had on the day before Kate went missing. Kate put to him her increased demand for a divorce settlement.

"He lied to us about that conversation in the beginning and when it became obvious he couldn't lie any more he gave up."

Det Supt Kelly said the row over the divorce settlement was enough to suspect Prout of his wife's murder, and his affair with housekeeper Diane Bellamy.

He added: "The fact that he was going to lose their farm was central to the whole thing.

"She upgraded her demand and it meant he would have to sell the farm and this was something he was desperate not to lose.

"Other factors included the Diane Bellamy situation. Adrian Prout was trying to minimise the significance of that relationship, but the level of contact between them was very significant."

But he added, unless Prout reveals the whereabouts of the body, it may never be known how she was killed or what happened to her since.

"The first thing we'd be keen to do is to appeal to Adrian to let us know where the body is because that would give closure for the family but in the absence of that we would only renew our search efforts given some meaningful intelligence."



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Re: Disappearance/Murder of Kate Prout

Post  Judge Mental on Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:35 am

What a shocking story, candyfloss.

The interesting bit was that Eddie the sniffer dog was brought in and signalled in the house behind the sofa and the patio door just like the MM case.

A shiver of deja vu there big grin

Officers even sifted through animal excrement in the belief she may have been fed to the pigs.

Detective Superintendent Neil Kelly, from Gloucestershire Police sounds like a chap who would go the whole hog.

Tenacious and diligent, just like the PJ! None of the namby pamby business we saw going on in Canynge Road recently, after Ms Yeates was murdered. Eddie the dog wasn't invited there.

One has just been thinking that one must start a few threads for the unsing heroes in this case. All the maligned and denigrated need threads of their own where we can write our messages of thanks and send supportive messages.

Just as the townsfolk of Praia da Luz have not been given thanks from the McCanns, neither has Grime, Eddie and Keela; nor Paiva, Rainbow and Harrison. Perhaps we can send thanks and some good will in these directions, with little messages for them to treasure and remember the McCann case by.

For example: ''Dear Mr Rainbow, Thank you for your clear and concise wording in the police files. We have finally found one of the pots of gold we were looking for. You will have all our support when this case gets back on the road again. We know you cannot reply to us, because this is an ongoing case, but was Stuie OK with everything you came up with?''

Thank you so much for bringing us this story candyfloss. At least we know this deceased woman has justice now. But of course, the McCanns have not hogged this story by saying they know Eddie the cadaver dog was doing everything he could to find out what happened to their daughter Madeleine. They do not like Eddie and Keela at all.

Circumstantial evidence was something we always held very dear in court. There is a lot of myth perpetuated amongst criminals and wrongdoers with regard to circumstantial evidence. It is painful to one's ears to have somebody screeching that something is only cirumstantial. One could cite many cases where circumstantial evidence has successfully condemned many people to spending the rest of their miserable lives in prison.


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Re: Disappearance/Murder of Kate Prout

Post  candyfloss on Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:41 am

Yes it was a bit deja vu I must say. I positively shivered when Eddie barked behind the sofa. I was just saying to hubby, how there was much less evidence in this case than the McCanns and yet Prout was convicted. i don\'t know

It will probably be repeated in the next couple of days, well worth a watch.

Perhaps I should move this to the main forum for discussion?

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Post  Guest on Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:46 am

I would really like to watch this candyfloss, what is the CI channel please?, as I will look out for it.

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Post  Judge Mental on Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:47 am

Definitely. This is an excellent story which one hadn't seen.

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Post  Guest on Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:50 am

candyfloss wrote:
Perhaps I should move this to the main forum for discussion?


I agree, I think it's also worth a little teaser in the library section, just to point out to everyone who says, no body, no conviction !!, we can stick this right up their where the sun don't shine.

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Post  candyfloss on Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:02 am

Stella wrote:I would really like to watch this candyfloss, what is the CI channel please?, as I will look out for it.


Hi Stella,

CI is Crime and Investigation Network channels.

It was on the Crime channel Sky 553. I've quickly looked at the schedule but it doesn't seem to be on in next few days and a new episode is on on Thursday. But they always get repeated, if I see it I will let you know.

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Re: Disappearance/Murder of Kate Prout

Post  Guest on Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:25 am

Thank you very much candyfloss, I would really appreciate that. I have Sky and don't know how I've missed that channel. I'm still looking out for the program called CSI The Body Farm, which was in about 5 episodes, which I'm sure Mitchell got pulled from air after only 2 episodes. I was so angry. I was discussing the first two episodes and was discussing how informative it was on a thread, as it showed you all about blood spatter directions in relation to the heights of walls and furniture and things and what it can tell you. I was comparing this to the wall in 5a and low and behold, the rest of the episodes got pulled from Channel 5. So I wonder if it might appear on that channel some time. Will have to see if it is an american channel or British? If it's American, I might be in luck !!

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Re: Disappearance/Murder of Kate Prout

Post  PeterMac on Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:15 am

The Hosein brothers were convicted of the murder of Mrs McKay, even they had fed her body to the pigs. Long time ago, 1969.
There are several more recent cases involving no body being discovered.

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Re: Disappearance/Murder of Kate Prout

Post  aiyoyo on Thu Mar 10, 2011 12:42 pm

candyfloss wrote:Yes it was a bit deja vu I must say. I positively shivered when Eddie barked behind the sofa. I was just saying to hubby, how there was much less evidence in this case than the McCanns and yet Prout was convicted.

It will probably be repeated in the next couple of days, well worth a watch.

Perhaps I should move this to the main forum for discussion?


It's deja vu indeed.

Had Madeleine disappeared from UK, the mccanns would have been convicted by now.
Dont forget it was the UK crime profiler who said the mccanns should be focused on and hence the dogs.

Why do people think the mccanns didnt approach the UK police to search for Maddie when the PJ had given up? Any normal parents of missing child would pushed any Police be it UK police (LP) or PJ to give them an answer why the search for Maddie was abandoned, but not the mccanns. Why didnt they - after all they'd v strong support in the UK and a bit of pressure from the right quarters and the UK police will have to respond accordingly.

I also dont understand who helped mccanns to pull strings with the LP on the upper echeoleon that their paypal button is still on the police website.

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