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Prince Andrew is supported over his friendship with a paedophile by a royal historian

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Prince Andrew is supported over his friendship with a paedophile by a royal historian

Post by Judge Mental on 07.03.11 8:36

Apparently, Prince Andrew's friendship with a convicted paedophile and gun smuggler should not be held against him. big grin

Royal historian Hugo Vickers, truly could not have managed to stick his head any further up Prince Andrew's backside than he did this morning. He said, ''As long as he is a doing a good job, I think he should be kept in his position.'' Hugo Vickers then goes on to say that what he particularly dislikes is the irresponsible press harrassment we saw yesterday where a a fairly tenuous connection with the headlines was trying to make the worst of him. He said Prince Andrew's friend was not a paedophile when he first made friends with him. He said, ''I would argue that there's a point to be made that you can't always tell what your friend is going to do later. Now this may be be bad company. Is it totally damaging, I'm not sure that it is.''

Chris Bryant MP, said that Prince Andrew stayed with this man in December and the security bill was £6000.

Hogo Vickers said that his point is that he ''really disapproves very strongly'' of people being hounded out of jobs if he (they) are doing a good job. Apparently, we should ''examine the facts very carefully'', and we will find that all this mud should not have been flung at Price Andrew. ..

William Hague has been far too busy interfering in foreign affairs, and all the goings on in the Middle East to have caught up with the latest scandalous scurrilous story surrounding Prince Andrew, but says he has certainly seen that Prince Andrew has done a lot of good around the world for his country. big grin

Chris Bryant MP said Prince Andrew has to take his own special six foot long ironing board on tours with him. big grin

Anyway, Hugo Vickers does not like to see a lot of press innuendo trying to damage Prince Andrew position because we see this too often. rotfl

Unfortunately, we do see this too often, Vickers! Indeed one can still remember when the Prince's wife was caught out by secret cameras. The woman was pimping her husband, allegedly without his knowledge.

Obviously, Prince Andrew having a paedophile friend is not the problem for Hugo Vickers, it's the press innuendo!

Whenever one sees a people such as Vickers pontificating on Princes, paedophilia, or the press, one is reminded that some people really should have been eaten at birth. What a little runt.

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Re: Prince Andrew is supported over his friendship with a paedophile by a royal historian

Post by Judge Mental on 07.03.11 9:06

Hands up, all those people who maintain friendships with their friends when they have been convicted as paedophiles. Do you still have them over to dinner? Do they babysit, or otherwise look after your children and grandchildren? Do you still ask them along for a beach holiday? Do you go swimming together? Do you share childrens' clothing catalogues with them? Stroll down to the park and smoke your pipes together on a park bench? Do you still ask them along to watching the under 11s football team with you on a Sunday morning? What do you say when they ask f they may come along to a junior school netball game?

Come along and tell us your own stories about how easy it is to maintain relationships with peadophiles, long after they have been convicted or released.

Do you believe they are cured after seven years, 18 months, or six months stretches in jail? Do you believe they are totally deterred from committing violent heinous sex crimes after they have been convicted and signed the paedophile register?

Some people listening to Establishment figures discussing Prince Andrew's friendship with a paedophile during this past couple of days, will be thinking it is normal behaviour to be on good terms with paedophiles, if he is not removed from his role forthwith. He is a disgrace to his sex and his country. Bad enough that he has such strong bonds with autocratic countries, without him befriending men or women who abuse and violate children.

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Post by Get'emGonçalo on 07.03.11 9:11

Apparently Fergie is also a friend of this paedophile and has accepted money from him to help pay her debts.

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Post by Judge Mental on 07.03.11 9:20

Get 'em Gonçalo wrote:Apparently Fergie is also a friend of this paedophile and has accepted money from him to help pay her debts.

Maybe one is simply out of touch and behind the times here big grin

For goodness sake, are paedophiles going to be the new ''must have''? In this peculiar politically correct world, will it become law that we have to ensure that we have at least two paedophile friends per capita before the end of 2016? A little bit of forced integration or something like that?

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Post by theolivebranch on 07.03.11 11:50

JM may I just take this snip from your quote....

Do you believe they are cured after seven years, 18 months, or six months stretches in jail? Do you believe they are totally deterred from committing violent heinous sex crimes after they have been convicted and signed the paedophile register?

And I will ask this question of all who read this regardless of age, gender, sexual preference? When you desire where does the desire stem from? In the first instance it is above the belt not below. So unless whilst behind bars they have had their brain removed they will never be "cured". Even a very very old and impotent man or woman is still a danger as long as they can think.

Sorry if this has been too explicit, I have tried to say it without innuendo.

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Post by Guest on 07.03.11 15:04

Duchess of York admits Duke arranged for convicted paedophile Jeffrey Epstein to pay off her debts

The Duchess of York has admitted that her former husband arranged for a convicted paedophile to pay off her debts.

Prince Andrew, the Duke of York (left) and his former wife Sarah Ferguson, the Duchess of York. Photo: AFP/REXBy Steven Swinford 1:53PM GMT 07 Mar 2011
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In her only interview since the scandal she confirmed that the Duke of York handled the negotiations, as first revealed by The Daily Telegraph.

She said that his office arranged for Jeffrey Epstein to give £15,000 to her former personal assistant, Johnny O'Sullivan, and apologised for a "gigantic error of judgement".

She said: "I personally, on behalf of myself, deeply regret that Jeffrey Epstein became involved in any way with me. I abhor paedophilia and any sexual abuse of children and know that this was a gigantic error of judgement on my behalf.

"I am just so contrite I cannot say. Whenever I can I will repay the money and will have nothing ever to do with Jeffrey Epstein ever again."

The revelation of the Duke's direct role in arranging the payment is likely to intensify pressure on him to step down from his role as trade ambassador.

Mr O'Sullivan was owed £78,000 in unpaid wages and other bills. After hearing about the Duchess's financial plight Epstein stepped in and discussed the affair directly with the Duke's office and then Mr O'Sullivan.

He accepted £15,000 which then allowed a wider restructuring of Sarah's £5 million debts to take place.

The Duchess said: "The Duke sorted out my debts and he and his office have been more than marvellous.

"I cannot state more strongly that I know a terrible, terrible error of judgement was made, my having anything do with Jeffrey Epstein. What he did was wrong and for which he was rightly jailed.

"I had no idea of the string of other allegations and court cases against him and I am distraught that I should have allowed myself to get out of debt with any help from him when my judgement was clouded.

"Once again my errors have compounded and rebounded and also inadvertently impacted on the man I admire most in the world, the Duke.

"He has supported me and come to my rescue again and again and there is absolutely nothing that I would not do for him.

"This make it even more painful for me that what happened has been used by people to make his life more difficult."

This morning David Cameron's official spokesman said that the Prime Minster still has "full confidence" in the Duke as trade envoy, despite reports that his position is under review.

Later, the Duke visited the Canary Wharf offices of the Crossrail project, where he was confronted by dozens of waiting photographers and journalists.

He smiled as he stepped from his chauffeur-driven Bentley, which had a personalised number plate ending in D0Y - for Duke of York.

As he was greeted by Crossrail chairman Terry Morgan, the Duke did not respond as a member of the press shouted: "Are you an embarrassment to the Royal Family?"




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Post by Cherry on 07.03.11 21:46

Personally I think he should not be allowed to represent this country in any way, and Cameron should not have given his support, I would imagine there is still other stuff to come out yet as well. I would have thought he should have immediately severed all contact with him but it says alot about Andrew that he didnt.

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Post by krisy22 on 07.03.11 22:28

The actions of both the Duke and Duchess of York in this matter is absolutely disgraceful . Why this country puts up with these spongers is beyond me.

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Post by Judge Mental on 08.03.11 2:22

@theolivebranch wrote:JM may I just take this snip from your quote....

Do you believe they are cured after seven years, 18 months, or six months stretches in jail? Do you believe they are totally deterred from committing violent heinous sex crimes after they have been convicted and signed the paedophile register?

And I will ask this question of all who read this regardless of age, gender, sexual preference? When you desire where does the desire stem from? In the first instance it is above the belt not below. So unless whilst behind bars they have had their brain removed they will never be "cured". Even a very very old and impotent man or woman is still a danger as long as they can think.

Sorry if this has been too explicit, I have tried to say it without innuendo.

This is not too explicit at all. theolivebranch. You have explained very clearly that a cure can never be found for paedophiles. There are some Flat Earth Society members who still believe that one day there will be a cure for homosexuality! This is how veritably stupid and idiotic the very idea of finding a cure for paedophilia is! Drugs will always be found to sublimate desire, but they will never eradicate the desire. No amount of drugs or counselling therapy can force these despicable people to change the way they think when they see an image of a child in a magazine or imagine a child - never mind when they see a live child walk past them in the street.

These people have to be locked away from being able to access children. If we had a dog who was OK with adults but was disturbed by children and became snappy and violent, would we allow the dog to freely roam around the home and gardens when children visited? Of course we wouldn't. Dogs don't have to be put down just because they have torn somebody's face or arm off, however we must be very careful who the dog has access to after the event.

One would never condone capital punishment for paedophiles, as many of them have exceptional thinking brains and are indeed some of the brightest, cleverest and industrious human beings. However, they must never ever be allowed to walk amongst children.

Let us be mindful, that just as thieves and robbers are very rarely caught, paedophiles are even harder to catch. And it is extremely difficult to prosecute after an accusation or aspersion has been cast. You could very well be living next door to a paedophile. Your boss or colleague, or even your best friend may be a paedophile. You will probably never ever even suspect them, never mind see a hint of it in their behaviour.

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Post by Judge Mental on 08.03.11 2:27

@krisy22 wrote:The actions of both the Duke and Duchess of York in this matter is absolutely disgraceful . Why this country puts up with these spongers is beyond me.

Because it's cheaper to put up with them than pay them off. Allegedly. Of course, the Russians became so embittered that they didn't even bother to argue the toss about paying their royalty off. big grin

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