The Dutch Connection

sharonl wrote:Kate and Gerry in Holland


Madeleine McCann 'spotted' in Holland three days after she was kidnapped

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2008/08/06/madeleine-mccann-spotted-in-holland-three-days-after-she-was-kidnapped-115875-20685848/

YNG wrote:

sharonl wrote:Kate and Gerry in Holland


Madeleine McCann 'spotted' in Holland three days after she was kidnapped

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2008/08/06/madeleine-mccann-spotted-in-holland-three-days-after-she-was-kidnapped-115875-20685848/

What a load of lies that Newspaper report is

sharonl wrote:

YNG wrote:

sharonl wrote:Kate and Gerry in Holland


Madeleine McCann 'spotted' in Holland three days after she was kidnapped

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2008/08/06/madeleine-mccann-spotted-in-holland-three-days-after-she-was-kidnapped-115875-20685848/

What a load of lies that Newspaper report is

What do you expect from the Daily Mirror?

YNG wrote:Whatever happened to proper journalism in this country

Autumn wrote: Since the beginning of this case, there have been numerous connections to The Netherlands such as:

1. Gerry has worked in The Netherlands and has many relations there.He has no relations here. He did a fellowship on MRI cardiology in Amsterdam, he has ex colleagues from there. No relations.

2. The woman who claims to have seen Madeleine in Belgium is Dutch. Well, it's a small country, it's like going to Wales from Gloucestershire.

3. The woman who claimed to have seen Madeleine at a Petrol Station in Morocco lives or has lived in The Netherlands.

4. The girl who reported seeing Madeleine dancing in a French restaurant is Dutch.

5. Castle Craig has a branch in The Netherlands and Gerry worked in that country for a while - did he work there?See point one

6. The first diversion tactic was sent to a Dutch newspaper, a letter along with a map.If he'd just had publicity in Holland, then reactions from the public would be coming in, usual form is emails or letters to the press.

7. The owner of the animal crematorium was run by a Dutch criminal, Evert Hendrik, who had spent almost 8 years in prison for planting bombs in The Netherlands. This was exhaustively researched by the PJ and other police, I'm sure there will be a topic on it. No burnt offerings, I'm afraid.

8. PJ interviewed 2 Dutch newspaper reporters who claimed to have found a towel in the area identified as a possible burial location in a tip-off from a Dutch source. I don't know about this, but finding a towel anywhere near a beach can hardly be surprising? It can't have had any DNA worth mentioning on it, otherwise we'd have heard about it. And how should a towel lie there for god knows how long to pinpoint a burial site?

9. Gerry mentions on his blog he met up with friends on 7th June in The Netherlands, then a week later there a leaks to the Dutch press about where Madeleine's body is. See point 6. Hardly coincidence, more usual loonies reacting.


10. The Strongwood Investigation.

Strongwood investigates Madeleine McCann case
august 7, 2007

A special missing person team of Investigations Company Strongwood has been investigating the Madeleine McCann case as of the end of June. The team was hired by a group of more than 105.000 Dutch citizens to do this investigation at only the costs of research.
I would quite like to see their credentials, how many people have they managed to find to date? I've never heard of them and I live here.

The team has conducted an intensive preliminary analysis based on all the facts, scenarios, information, leads, broadcastings of interviews and images received by tested clairvoyance from the Netherlands and USA.
Tested clairvoyance?????

On the 31 of July the Team wend to Praia da Luz to investigate and conclude if al findings where possible. The team was formed of three detectives, a child expert in special children with a disorder, and a tested person with special abilities.


It became clear that the scenario of what might have happened became closer and closer to the leads this team was heading to. Because the media was watching the investigation team of the Portuguese police with two British investigators and well trained dogs, the Strongwood team could do their research without intervention.


While profiling involved people and researching our facts the team concluded that Madeleine could have been died before 19:00 we also found that Madeleine is a kid with a disability (autistic) which could explain her behavior and explain some witness declarations. The dogs of the British police marked the dead of the child in the apartment with traces of found blood. If death is marked than the child must have been death in that apartment for a couple of hours. Our team thinks she is moved from there with a white combi/transit vehicle to a beach location, while dumping the body into the sea. The person who has been seen walking with a child is a contradiction, but because one of the friends stated this witness declaration she would have recognize the child as Madeleine.
Could have been died before 19.00??? Does that mean murdered? It's English, but not as we know it, Jim.

This is just pure rubbish, in the first place, Kate complained that Maddie was 'clingy' wanted to be held all the time, this is not a feature of autism, quite the opposite.

We are convinced she has been given to the ocean and our (oceanic) calculations of May were slightly off course due to miscalculated temperatures and currencies onsite. These calculations have to be done again to indicate the course of a body in the ocean; we are also calculating a possible time of dissolution and take into account animals eating of the body. We have a few possible marked places we already checked and checked, but maybe we where to early as the indication now are end of August beginning of September.


We are convinced that the body has been dropped into the sea at the rocks on the left of the beach. The images who were received from our special person (in May, June, July and onsite) are in-line with the facts an also indicate what we expected.


What is happened is not sure, our calculations and facts indicated a possible time of dead or as much as a time she was already dead. If this had happened inside the apartment it indicates a possibility that resort employees, the McCann’s or their friends, or one of them knew this. Also the fact that the place could have been cleaned points in that direction.
What is this gobbledegook? ' a possible time of dead or as much as a time she was already dead?' It looks to me as if Strongwood are in urgent need of a decent translator?


Robert Murat has been seen on the evening/night of the 3rd the question is was he at home on the time he stated to the police. Our investigation leads in no way to this suspect other than that Murat could have done some things he didn’t want the police finding out before Madeleine even disappeared.
We had contacts with the Portuguese police and attended them on our investigation but as the new team with the British was formed, all communications channels where closed. We have tried to get our team in contact with the British investigators leading the portages team but we could not reach them at different times or where busy investigating.


Our team had to leave Portugal because we ran out of money which was gathered by the large group of people who hired us.


Back home we started to gather all information and findings of our investigation in Portugal and we are now investigation all this information and concentrating on the questions it gives. We are also watching the given statements on video by the McCann’s for psychological profiling. There are some indications that signals are not in the right context.

SOURCE: Strongwood

Sorry Upsy Daisy, The bandwagon of the McCanns was very tempting to a lot of people trying to make some money and get publicity at the same time. ` Now if it had been De Vries who is a real investigator it would be another story. This Strongwood story is pityful. The Dutch connection would have to be seen in comparison to many other nationalities who had input. You'd find it would be meaningless.

Gillyspot wrote:If what I have been working on then it isn't Dutch but Irish connection (in the first instance anyway).

Will keep you informed.