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Are jail sentences for killing people too light?

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Are jail sentences for killing people too light?

Post by Tony Bennett on 19.12.09 10:01

I appreciate there is not a 'poll' facility on 'Right to Reply'.

But.

This bloke:

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/18/20091218/tuk-man-jailed-for-killing-wife-with-tv-a7ad41d.html

with 50% remission, will be back on the streets of the U.K. in 18 months' time.

Does anyone else think that the sentences for killing someone have reached ridiculously low levels these days?

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Re: Are jail sentences for killing people too light?

Post by Patty O'Daws on 19.12.09 10:02

Baby P.

YES, much too lenient.

wtf

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Released from prison, and they kill again

Post by Tony Bennett on 19.12.09 10:07

@Patty O'Daws wrote:Baby P.

YES, much too lenient.
Some killers have been released from jail only to kill again.

That can't be right?

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Re: Are jail sentences for killing people too light?

Post by Patty O'Daws on 19.12.09 10:14

It's not right at all.

And I think we should get 'Slim' on the case to get a petition started.

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A petition calling for longer jail sentences for murderers

Post by Tony Bennett on 19.12.09 10:18

@Patty O'Daws wrote:It's not right at all.

And I think we should get 'Slim' on the case to get a petition started.
This one speaks of longer sentences:

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/PrisonBreak/

but it's only got 105 signatures.

It could have been better phrased, but I totally agree with where she's coming from

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Re: Are jail sentences for killing people too light?

Post by vaguely on 19.12.09 10:20

@Tony Bennett wrote:I appreciate there is not a 'poll' facility on 'Right to Reply'.

But.

This bloke:

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/18/20091218/tuk-man-jailed-for-killing-wife-with-tv-a7ad41d.html

with 50% remission, will be back on the streets of the U.K. in 18 months' time.

Does anyone else think that the sentences for killing someone have reached ridiculously low levels these days?







Paul Harvey, 46, killed Gloria Laguna, 48, by a "fluke" chance after the remote hit a weak artery near her neck. Despite his efforts to revive her, she died from a massive brain hemorrhage, the Old Bailey heard.

Harvey, an electrical engineer from London had in March pleaded guilty to the manslaughter of his wife, a former US diplomat.

Defence lawyer Jonathan Goldberg said Harvey was "deeply ashamed and remorseful" at the death of his wife, who had had a very rare condition which neither she nor her husband had known about.



I'm not convinced that he should have been in prison in the first place. just imho

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Re: Are jail sentences for killing people too light?

Post by Bea_Reasonable on 19.12.09 10:27

I agree.

It reads like an accident to me.

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Some 'accident'

Post by Tony Bennett on 19.12.09 10:33

@Bea_Reasonable wrote:I agree.

It reads like an accident to me.
He killed her by aiming a missile at her head.

An accident??

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Re: Are jail sentences for killing people too light?

Post by Patty O'Daws on 19.12.09 10:41

Yes, he didn't intend to kill her but he did intend to hurt her by aiming said missile at her head, which according to his lawyer, could have happened if he'd won the lottery.

Shocked

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Post by vaguely on 19.12.09 10:48

@Tony Bennett wrote:
@Bea_Reasonable wrote:I agree.

It reads like an accident to me.
He killed her by aiming a missile at her head.

An accident??



He may just as easily have grabbed hold of her for a passionate kiss. Or maybe a grandchild grasping her neck when being given a piggy back, or back at school playing netball.

Her death was an accident. She had an underlying condition which meant that she died.

yes. an accident.

He's a git for throwing a remote control at her. But hardly a cold blooded murderer.

He didn't kill her by aiming a missile at her. She died as a result of being hit on the neck because of a weak artery.

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Post by Patty O'Daws on 19.12.09 10:53

@vaguely wrote:
@Tony Bennett wrote:
@Bea_Reasonable wrote:I agree.

It reads like an accident to me.
He killed her by aiming a missile at her head.

An accident??



He may just as easily have grabbed hold of her for a passionate kiss. Or maybe a grandchild grasping her neck when being given a piggy back, or back at school playing netball.

Her death was an accident. She had an underlying condition which meant that she died.

yes. an accident.

He's a git for throwing a remote control at her. But hardly a cold blooded murderer.

He didn't kill her by aiming a missile at her. She died as a result of being hit on the neck because of a weak artery.

He wasn't done for being a cold blooded murderer. He was done for manslaughter. He wasn't going to kiss her passionately, he aimed something at her head which was meant to hurt her.

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Re: Are jail sentences for killing people too light?

Post by Guest on 19.12.09 10:54

@Tony Bennett wrote:I appreciate there is not a 'poll' facility on 'Right to Reply'.

But.

This bloke:

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/18/20091218/tuk-man-jailed-for-killing-wife-with-tv-a7ad41d.html

with 50% remission, will be back on the streets of the U.K. in 18 months' time.

Does anyone else think that the sentences for killing someone have reached ridiculously low levels these days?

Err Bennett surely your work experience as a Office Junior you would know the difference between manslaughter and murder. You once again are distorting the facts.

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Re: Are jail sentences for killing people too light?

Post by Patty O'Daws on 19.12.09 10:55

Where has TB said murder?

Or are you distorting facts so you can have a go?

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Re: Are jail sentences for killing people too light?

Post by vaguely on 19.12.09 10:56

@Patty O'Daws wrote:

He wasn't done for being a cold blooded murderer. He was done for manslaughter. He wasn't going to kiss her passionately, he aimed something at her head which was meant to hurt her.

Or that she was meant to duck. Don't suppose we'll ever know.

But it's a bit of a damp squib in relation to discussing light sentences.

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Re: Are jail sentences for killing people too light?

Post by Patty O'Daws on 19.12.09 10:58

I agree.

Let's discuss Baby P.

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Re: Are jail sentences for killing people too light?

Post by Guest on 19.12.09 11:00

I actually think we should discuss those that spread vile disgusting lies about, harrass the family of a missing child, and keep making false statements about the case.
They should be punished harder.

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Post by Patty O'Daws on 19.12.09 11:09

muratfan01 wrote:I actually think we should discuss those that spread vile disgusting lies about, harrass the family of a missing child, and keep making false statements about the case.
They should be punished harder.

Oh, I thought spreading rumours about people being paedos without evidence was quite bad too. But then I guess it's ok for you to do that? People can take that info that you've posted up and harrass the person your are trying to target.

If it's true what you've posted you should tell the police, unless what you've posted is a false statement designed to harrass that person and his family?

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Re: Are jail sentences for killing people too light?

Post by Bea_Reasonable on 19.12.09 11:10

@Tony Bennett wrote:
@Bea_Reasonable wrote:I agree.

It reads like an accident to me.
He killed her by aiming a missile at her head.

An accident??

He threw a remote control at her in a row.

Not exactly a killing frenzy was it?

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Post by Bea_Reasonable on 19.12.09 11:12

@Patty O'Daws wrote:I agree.

Let's discuss Baby P.

I agree too.

I'd personally like to see some keys thrown away in relation to sentencing there.

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Re: Are jail sentences for killing people too light?

Post by Autumn on 19.12.09 12:16

@Patty O'Daws wrote:
muratfan01 wrote:I actually think we should discuss those that spread vile disgusting lies about, harrass the family of a missing child, and keep making false statements about the case.
They should be punished harder.

Oh, I thought spreading rumours about people being paedos without evidence was quite bad too. But then I guess it's ok for you to do that? People can take that info that you've posted up and harrass the person your are trying to target.

If it's true what you've posted you should tell the police, unless what you've posted is a false statement designed to harrass that person and his family?

Muratfan01, I would be most interested to read your response to Patty's comments as I, too, have concerns about your harassment of the person in question and others.

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Re: Are jail sentences for killing people too light?

Post by Guest on 19.12.09 12:41

I think you could justify aleaflet for this.

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Post by vaguely on 19.12.09 13:02

@Autumn wrote:
@Patty O'Daws wrote:
muratfan01 wrote:I actually think we should discuss those that spread vile disgusting lies about, harrass the family of a missing child, and keep making false statements about the case.
They should be punished harder.

Oh, I thought spreading rumours about people being paedos without evidence was quite bad too. But then I guess it's ok for you to do that? People can take that info that you've posted up and harrass the person your are trying to target.

If it's true what you've posted you should tell the police, unless what you've posted is a false statement designed to harrass that person and his family?

Muratfan01, I would be most interested to read your response to Patty's comments as I, too, have concerns about your harassment of the person in question and others.


Are we talking about David Payne? I'm confused.

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Post by Guest on 19.12.09 15:11

@Autumn wrote:

Muratfan01, I would be most interested to read your response to Patty's comments as I, too, have concerns about your harassment of the person in question and others.

The links posted were passed to the Police.

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Post by Guest on 19.12.09 16:15

@Tony Bennett wrote:I appreciate there is not a 'poll' facility on 'Right to Reply'.

But.

This bloke:

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/18/20091218/tuk-man-jailed-for-killing-wife-with-tv-a7ad41d.html

with 50% remission, will be back on the streets of the U.K. in 18 months' time.

Does anyone else think that the sentences for killing someone have reached ridiculously low levels these days?

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Post by sunshine on 19.12.09 16:23

Please,I beseech you,dont make nasty comments.They are so pointless and do no one any good,we may not like someone but we should remember we are all human with feelings (Tony Bennett AND the McCanns included).

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