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Post by Guest on 05.12.10 19:56

This is a rather thought provoking piece from textusa........


Lots of diagrams and photos, so can't copy and paste

http://textusa.blogspot.com/2010/12/in-emergency-call-112-when-in-hoax-call.html



So how did they all get round that table, and even more thought provoking, when the fitness instructor joined them on one night, and on another didn't J Wilkins and wife. There don't seem to be any big round table in the tapas does there?

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Post by theolivebranch on 05.12.10 21:04

Now I know that tapa are normally served in little dishes, unless you order a ration size, but after reading this I am questioning all the adults, the wine bottles, the glasses, the child monitor and the food, the table is not big enough for four people and all the other stuff let alone 9.So reading this link has really made me think. How very odd.

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Post by aiyoyo on 06.12.10 3:28

The restaurant is called Tapas, doesnt necessary mean it serves only amuse-bouche. Could serve proper a la carte menu as well as evidenced by their order of 'steak' according to the waiter's statement.

If the tables are of the movable type two can be joined together for a larger crowd.
Were there photos of their 'last meal' so to speak?

Size of table is no indication the crowd wasnt gathered together at one spot bearing in mind serving staff testimonies.

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Post by Shibboleth on 06.12.10 8:42

I remember a report, early on, that they specifically asked for their main meals to be served in the Tapas as opposed to the restaurant. Something to do with being closer to the children. Not that it did them much good.

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Post by Guest on 06.12.10 9:28

@aiyoyo wrote:The restaurant is called Tapas, doesnt necessary mean it serves only amuse-bouche. Could serve proper a la carte menu as well as evidenced by their order of 'steak' according to the waiter's statement.

If the tables are of the movable type two can be joined together for a larger crowd.
Were there photos of their 'last meal' so to speak?

Size of table is no indication the crowd wasnt gathered together at one spot bearing in mind serving staff testimonies.


hi aiyoyo,

Have you looked at the link in my first post and the diagram that Kate drew of the table? It was one large round table. There are also pics of the tapas bar and all the round tables are small, no way could that many people sit around it to eat.

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Post by aiyoyo on 06.12.10 10:21

[quote="candyfloss"]
@aiyoyo wrote:The restaurant is called Tapas, doesnt necessary mean it serves only amuse-bouche. Could serve proper a la carte menu as well as evidenced by their order of 'steak' according to the waiter's statement.

If the tables are of the movable type two can be joined together for a larger crowd.
Were there photos of their 'last meal' so to speak?

Size of table is no indication the crowd wasnt gathered together at one spot bearing in mind serving staff testimonies.


aiyoyo,

Have you looked at the link in my first post and the diagram that Kate drew of the table? It was one large round table. There are also pics of the tapas bar and all the round tables are small, no way could that many people sit around it to eat.[/quote

As a matter of fact I did look at the drawing but didnt realise it was done by KM.

Yes the circular table was not big enough for the 9 adults...unless they had only liquid dinner while the solid are taken each by turn.

Nothing they said makes sense, so that was another dribble from them then that didnt make sense as usual.

Just wonder whether the police took pictures of the dinner scene .......?

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Post by Guest on 06.12.10 10:55



How many people do you know who could draw the perfect circle?

Was this perfect circle presented to Kate for her to complete, if so, who gave it to her?

Just a thought.

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Post by Guest on 06.12.10 11:28

According to Jane Tanner:

31.05 4078 “Was it a table specifically for a large group or had they sort of mackled together a group of tables?”

Reply “I think they’d put some together, but it was round, it was just one big round, a big round one. I can’t remember to be honest. But, I mean, I think the first time we’d gone there we’d had the thing we’d had with the Millennium the first night, we was all trying to put tables together, so now they knew we were coming we had a, we had the, the big table there waiting”.

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/PJ/JANE_TANNER_RIGATORY.htm



According to officer 4078, we now have a new word in the dictionary, “mackled”. laughat

Does anyone know what this means exactly ?

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Post by PeterMac on 06.12.10 14:12

Perfect circle done with a wine glass.
But it would have been easier to draw a square or rectangle freehand if that had been the case.
To draw the circle shows more effort.
And you can hardly push square tables together to make a circle.
Very strange.

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Post by PeterMac on 06.12.10 14:16

mackle2 from the free dictionary dot com
vb mackles, mackled, mackling (tr)
Midland English dialect - to mend hurriedly or in a makeshift way.

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Post by Guest on 06.12.10 14:19

Stella wrote:According to Jane Tanner:

31.05 4078 “Was it a table specifically for a large group or had they sort of mackled together a group of tables?”

Reply “I think they’d put some together, but it was round, it was just one big round, a big round one. I can’t remember to be honest. But, I mean, I think the first time we’d gone there we’d had the thing we’d had with the Millennium the first night, we was all trying to put tables together, so now they knew we were coming we had a, we had the, the big table there waiting”.

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/PJ/JANE_TANNER_RIGATORY.htm



According to officer 4078, we now have a new word in the dictionary, “mackled”. laughat

Does anyone know what this means exactly ?

Thank you stella. So how did they manage to get such a large round table? Where from. Whether tables are round or oblong or square in a small size, there is no way you can make them round. Unless the tables were shaped like Kraft cheese slice wedges big grin


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Post by PeterMac on 06.12.10 14:28

Sorry Stella.
Cancel my previous about a wine glass, although it is possible in other cases.
Looking at it again it is a printed form, with filing holes on the right hand side, (actually the top) marked with Piscina and Recepcion to give a waiter his bearings when he jots down the orders. The waiter is then able to serve the right dish to each guest.
So there must have been a big round table somewhere, or several, for it to be worth someone printing this form in readiness.
But the photos clearly show small square tables next to the windows overlooking the pool
So...
If they were sitting at a big round table, they were NOT sitting close to the window, and their story about being able to see the apartment moves even further from the truth. And the stuff about pushing tables together is nonsense.


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Post by Guest on 06.12.10 14:31

@PeterMac wrote:mackle2 from the free dictionary dot com
vb mackles, mackled, mackling (tr)
Midland English dialect - to mend hurriedly or in a makeshift way.


Thank you PeterMac thumbsup


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Post by Guest on 06.12.10 14:34




But if you look at the picture of the tapas bar, there are no large round tables, only tables big enough for four.

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Post by Guest on 06.12.10 14:43

@PeterMac wrote:Sorry Stella.
Cancel my previous about a wine glass, although it is possible in other cases.
Looking at it again it is a printed form, with filing holes on the right hand side, (actually the top) marked with Piscina and Recepcion to give a waiter his bearings when he jots down the orders. The waiter is then able to serve the right dish to each guest.
So there must have been a big round table somewhere, or several, for it to be worth someone printing this form in readiness.
But the photos clearly show small square tables next to the windows overlooking the pool
So...
If they were sitting at a big round table, they were NOT sitting close to the window, and their story about being able to see the apartment moves even further from the truth. And the stuff about pushing tables together is nonsense.


Exactly clapping1

The McCann's I believe also claimed that on one particular night they did not know if they would get a table. But they must have known that a table was booked for them every night, if a large special table was brought in from somewhere, just for them.

Knights of the round table, how lovely !!

Actually, your comment about drawing round a wine glass is not so daft. If you blow the image up and look around the circumference, it looks like there is a lot of stop/start pen marks where someone tried to draw round something. Bearing in mind the space between names, I'm guessing a saucer from a cup.

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Post by Guest on 06.12.10 15:12

There are only 2 places where I can think they could find such a table at short notice.

1. From the nearby conference rooms, that are hired out for meetings.

2. From the managements board room, which would be a round or oval one.

Or, they actually eat somewhere else altogether.

It's quite funny actually, but I have had quite a few doubts about those tapas booking sheets. Why did some numbers for dinner not actually tally with some families? How the Irwins appeared before the tapas 9 on the list, when they booked after them? Why the booking sheet pages changed immediately after the alarm was raised, yet the receptionist did not give the book to the PJ until her interview on the 8th, 4 days later? Why did the handwriting change from before and after the alarm?


Why the need for a round table? perhaps because it afforded no one man, more importance than another. laughat

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Post by PeterMac on 06.12.10 16:31

Stella.
Re wine glass. Yes I looked at those blobs, but then realised the whole of the middle was filled in with light grey, which suggested the pre-printed form with the orientation 'Piscina and recepcion' on it. Easy to make on a computer and print a few at a time.
It still doesn't make sense though. But does anything ?
Circular tables in restaurants are not common. Partly because you can't add them together for groups. Also because they are unwieldy. The legs have to be almost at the edge or they fall over when someone leans on the segment outboard of the square formed by the legs. That makes them difficult to move and store
The square ones in the photos are teak, and have the 'X' crossed legs, suggesting they are collapsable for flat storage in the winter. They also have a hole in the middle for the umberella. There certainly could have been added together, as are the two in the foreground, to make a large square or rectangular table.
But KM could then have drawn that herself, or would have squared off the circle on the piece of paper she was given.
Were they in fact in the Tapas bar at all ?
There must be an explanation. Mitchell says so.

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Post by aiyoyo on 06.12.10 17:21

Texusa lost me ever since she penned that GM went round with someone else's child as decoy...

Now this drawing thing, where did it come from? Is this officially in police file?

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Post by Judge Mental on 06.12.10 17:34

Perhaps each of the members of the Tapas gang were given a similar sheet of paper to draw on. Perhaps the police were trying to catch them out by watching them write down who was seated in which spot. Do we know if the police asked people outside of the Tapas 9 gang to complete one of these sheets too? It would be most interesting to see where other diners remember the Tapas 9 were sitting.

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Post by Guest on 07.12.10 12:15

clapping Yes Judge, that's what I would have organised for them all. It's an excellent tactic !!!

catfight flush out the liars sarcastic

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Post by PeterMac on 08.12.10 8:43

Certainly a good tactic to flush out liars, BUT at the time the sketch was prepared, were the Tapa$ 7 under suspicion of anything. Indeed was KM under suspicion. If not then that request would have been purely for information, and so the moment would have been lost. It could usefully have been repeated, but most of the 'witnesses' were on their way home by then, and the TM story became the only one available.

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Post by Guest on 08.12.10 9:11

That is a very good point PeterMac. We should try to find out when it was completed. I seem to remember discussions during the rogatory interviews talking about who was sitting next to who, I will look to see if they mention writing this down.

Also, Kate may have signed that piece of paper, but did she write all of the names herself. We can try to compare the writing to hers.

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Post by Guest on 08.12.10 9:28

Here is the diagram again, I think Kate did fill it in herself, I thought I had read that, could be wrong though. Note she writes me, where she sat.


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Post by Guest on 08.12.10 10:53

That is a good point Candyfloss. It would suggest then, that it is her writing. I've been looking at her scribbles on the creche sheets to compare some letters, but it is not a very good comparison really to work with.

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/CRECHE/Processo-pdf01-pages-107-111[105-109]/processopdf01page111-CrecheRecords2.jpg

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Post by Judge Mental on 08.12.10 15:13

Stella wrote:That is a good point Candyfloss. It would suggest then, that it is her writing. I've been looking at her scribbles on the creche sheets to compare some letters, but it is not a very good comparison really to work with.

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/CRECHE/Processo-pdf01-pages-107-111[105-109]/processopdf01page111-CrecheRecords2.jpg

This may have already been discussed, but given that McCann would not have been hurried when drawing up the seating plan for the police, one is quite surprised to see that when she writes a letter N, it is not as fancy or laborious as the scribbled ''Kate McCann'' signature on the creche record sheet. Surely her more fancy writing would have shown itself when taking her time rather when rushing to collect her children from the creches?

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