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Post by PeterMac on 18.01.14 17:53

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id209.html
After three long months without their daughter, what now for the McCanns? Daily Mail

By DAVID JONES
Last updated at 09:10 28 July 2007

It's three months since Maddy vanished and her parents are grieving in very different ways. He's thinking about moving back to Britain and starting to rebuild their lives. She's still lost in despair and cannot bear to leave Portugal

This week, however, when I spoke to Philomena, she felt compelled to defend her brother and sister-in-law.
"People talk about Team McCann - they think it's orchestrated. That's nonsense. It's bits and pieces, and pals pulling together," she said.
"There hasn't been any kind of cynical campaign. It's just an amazing coming together. We've winged it and learned as we've gone along."
She cited the Find Madeleine website, with its haunting footage, Gerry's daily blog, an on-line store selling yellow bracelets for a £2 donation and a diary of forthcoming events, all set to the Bryan Adams song (Everything I Do) I Do It For You.
Remarkably professional looking, it was created by 19-year-old Callum McCrae, one of Philomena's former pupils.
Then there was the Look Into My Eyes poster, inviting people to memorise the distinctive 'flash' in Madeleine's right eye.
That was devised by Jon Corner, a friend who runs a media company in Liverpool.
Another friend, Michael Wright, a businessman from Skipton, uses his network of contacts to get funding, and Gerry's brother, pharmaceutical company rep John McCann, helps with strategy.
Madeleine's face is instantly recognisable in dozens of countries, and the reward for information leading to her return stands at £3.2 million.

"It needs only one greedy, unscrupulous character to come forward," said Philomena McCann.

"So the campaign will go on, whatever anyone says. Those who say we just want to appear on telly should get a life. Can you imagine stopping looking for your daughter?"

Still there at
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-471365/After-long-months-daughter--McCanns.html

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Re: Philomena McCann: "..one greedy, unscrupulous character.."

Post by Newintown on 18.01.14 17:54

@aiyoyo wrote:Shame it has been whooshed !

It's called destroying evidence = perverting the Course of Justice.

It just shows how nervous certain people are getting and are trying to delete any "history" from the past 6-7 years, but with the wonder of modern science no doubt most it can be recalled if required.

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Post by ultimaThule on 18.01.14 21:20

@windchime wrote:It has just struck me that I do not seem to recall seeing the McCann family and friends - all 26 of them - during their time in Turkey handing out posters or making it public knowledge that they were there and 'looking' for her in a country where an awful lot of people speculated she could have been taken too??

Also, I have just been quickly looking through some pictures and timelines for the Camerons and on one I was looking at it states that they stayed with the
McCanns until the end of the summer and makes no mention of them hot footing it off for a little break in Turkey??

I cannot believe for one minute that 26 family members travelled abroad using airlines, airports, transfer coaches, taxis, hotels, restaurants, beauty parlours, resort activities and there are no reports of any of them using this time to actively campaign in Turkey.

Unless I have missed something?
This reminds me that, with regard to her evidence at the libel trial, it appeared to me Trish Cameron came dangerously close to lying on oath in relation to what she told the court about the length and number of times she stayed with her sibling in Luz. 

I gave this opinion on another thread somewhere on this forum and it occurs to me that, while the court is in some form of adjournment pending a date being set (again) for closing arguments, lawyers for the defence should be alerted to any anomalies in the testimonies of other side's witnesses.

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Post by Newintown on 18.01.14 21:49

@Newintown wrote:
@aiyoyo wrote:Shame it has been whooshed !

It's called destroying evidence = perverting the Course of Justice.

It just shows how nervous certain people are getting and are trying to delete any "history" from the past 6-7 years, but with the wonder of modern science no doubt most of it can be recalled if required.

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Re: Philomena McCann: "..one greedy, unscrupulous character.."

Post by Rasputin on 18.01.14 21:51

@PeterMac wrote:http://www.mccannfiles.com/id209.html
After three long months without their daughter, what now for the McCanns? Daily Mail

By DAVID JONES
Last updated at 09:10 28 July 2007

It's three months since Maddy vanished and her parents are grieving in very different ways. He's thinking about moving back to Britain and starting to rebuild their lives. She's still lost in despair and cannot bear to leave Portugal

This week, however, when I spoke to Philomena, she felt compelled to defend her brother and sister-in-law.
"People talk about Team McCann - they think it's orchestrated. That's nonsense. It's bits and pieces, and pals pulling together," she said.
"There hasn't been any kind of cynical campaign. It's just an amazing coming together. We've winged it and learned as we've gone along."
She cited the Find Madeleine website, with its haunting footage, Gerry's daily blog, an on-line store selling yellow bracelets for a £2 donation and a diary of forthcoming events, all set to the Bryan Adams song (Everything I Do) I Do It For You.
Remarkably professional looking, it was created by 19-year-old Callum McCrae, one of Philomena's former pupils.
Then there was the Look Into My Eyes poster, inviting people to memorise the distinctive 'flash' in Madeleine's right eye.
That was devised by Jon Corner, a friend who runs a media company in Liverpool.
Another friend, Michael Wright, a businessman from Skipton, uses his network of contacts to get funding, and Gerry's brother, pharmaceutical company rep John McCann, helps with strategy.
Madeleine's face is instantly recognisable in dozens of countries, and the reward for information leading to her return stands at £3.2 million.

"It needs only one greedy, unscrupulous character to come forward," said Philomena McCann.

"So the campaign will go on, whatever anyone says. Those who say we just want to appear on telly should get a life. Can you imagine stopping looking for your daughter?"

Still there at
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-471365/After-long-months-daughter--McCanns.html
I seem to remember years ago pharmacutical companies would give doctor's kickbacks for prescribing their products it would be interesting to know how many 'if' any of this group of doctors prescribe any products sold by John McCann....could his company possibly have set this holiday up a an unofficial gift ?

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Post by Mirage on 18.01.14 22:32

Madeleine's face is instantly recognisable in dozens of countries, and the reward for information leading to her return stands at £3.2 million.

"It needs only one greedy, unscrupulous character to come forward," said Philomena McCann.

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Freudian slip. Big build up by Phil then down to earth with a bump.

 She has instantly sent a negative signal that almost dares anyone to come forward with any information whatsoever. Anyone that does so will be regarded with extreme suspicion. Someone likely to be on the make; a liar, a con artist. Good message, eh?

 In Philomena's case, the negative qualifier she supplies the would-be saviour with is: "unscrupulous character". Great.

Invites the response: "I was just going to pick up the phone when I heard that, Maud. Think I'd best leave it dear, don't want to be tarred with that brush at my time of life."

The construction she uses "It only needs one" typically invites a negative qualifier. Examples:
 It only needs one idiot to upset the apple cart.
 It only needs a thunderstorm and the hot air balloon event will be ruined.
 It only needs Gertrude Upshott-Bagley to open her mouth at the vicar's cheese and wine and the prebendary Clarence Day will know the parish council is deeply unpopular with the congregation.

 Wrong wrong wrong. But oh so revealing. Clodhoppingly revealing.

Usual format for kosher appeals goes along the following lines:
"We know there must be someone out there  - (Nice and positive; inviting; encouraging -see the difference Philomena?) And that someone may feel unsure; may think they are mistaken in what they've seen; that all they have is an insignificant detail. But I urge that person to come forward whatever their doubts, because it doesn't matter if they are wrong. What matters is that they could hold (wait for it, wait for it) that vital piece of the jigsaw that would bring MM home to her loving family.

That's the way to do it, Philomena. Grade: D-.

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Post by ProfessorPPlum on 18.01.14 23:43

I followed Rasputin's link to the McCannfiles page... and read an interview with GM I hadn't seen before. It includes the following exchange:

"VAN SUSTEREN: Any theory why Madeleine's case got publicity? You are very unfortunate that your child is missing, but fortunate that at least some of the spotlight might help.

MCCANN: There has obviously been a mixture of circumstances for us. I don't doubt that Madeleine's image itself is playing a huge part in that.

VAN SUSTEREN: She is cute, very cute. But all these missing children are all adorable. We want to help them all"

I don't know why but GM's reply here makes me uncomfortable. His answer suggests that he really believes his daughter's prettiness - her looks - are a credible reason for her to receive this special treatment. Only someone who believed it could utter such a superficial and utterly inadequate explanation.

Sorry if off topic. Both the Mail article and this McCannfiles piece make disturbing reading (but important to revisit).

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Post by jeanmonroe on 18.01.14 23:54

Madeleine's face is instantly recognisable in dozens of countries, and the reward for information leading to her return stands at £3.2 million.
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Really?  £3.2million?

The 'most' i have EVER seen in relation to a 'reward' is only £2.6 million!
The entrepreneur Sir Richard Branson, the impresario Bill Kenwright and retail tycoon Sir Philip Green were revealed as backers of a £1.5m reward announced by the News of the World newspaper. It means the total reward now on offer stands at a record £2.6m after a businessman and a family friend pledged a total of £1.1m last week.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2007/may/13/ameliahill.jamiedoward

So where has £600,000 of reward money 'disappeared' to?

Put 'suggestions' in an envelope and address it to K&G, Rothley,.. it'll get there!
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Saturday May 12, 2007

• Madeleine's fourth birthday.

The total reward being offered by business figures, celebrities and a national newspaper for information leading to Madeleine's safe return reaches £2.5 million.
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Chancellor Gordon Brown expresses his sympathy for Madeleine's parents and says his thoughts are with them.
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Didn't express his sympathy for wee man Mikaeel Kular's parent Rosdeep Kular and say his thoughts were with her though, did he?

He didn't know at the time that Mikaeel 'disappeared' that he had not been abducted from his flat, did he?

One family gets his sympathy for just saying their child 'was abducted' (without proof of that) but another one dosen't get his sympathy when they say their child 'was abducted'.(also without proof of that)

Wonder why?

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Post by Hobs on 19.01.14 0:33

@jeanmonroe wrote:Madeleine's face is instantly recognisable in dozens of countries, and the reward for information leading to her return stands at £3.2 million.
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Really?  £3.2million?

The 'most' i have EVER seen in relation to a 'reward' is only £2.6 million!
The entrepreneur Sir Richard Branson, the impresario Bill Kenwright and retail tycoon Sir Philip Green were revealed as backers of a £1.5m reward announced by the News of the World newspaper. It means the total reward now on offer stands at a record £2.6m after a businessman and a family friend pledged a total of £1.1m last week.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2007/may/13/ameliahill.jamiedoward

So where has £600,000 of reward money 'disappeared' to?
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Saturday May 12, 2007

• Madeleine's fourth birthday.

The total reward being offered by business figures, celebrities and a national newspaper for information leading to Madeleine's safe return reaches £2.5 million.
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Chancellor Gordon Brown expresses his sympathy for Madeleine's parents and says his thoughts are with them.
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Didn't express his sympathy for wee man Mikaeel Kular's parent Rosdeep Kular and say his thoughts were with her though, did he?

He didn't know at the time that Mikaeel 'disappeared' that he had not been abducted from his flat, did he?

One family gets his sympathy for just saying their child 'was abducted' (without proof of that) but another one dosen't get his sympathy when they say their child 'was abducted'.(also without proof of that)

Wonder why?
The majority of the reward came from the NOTW, a paper which no longer exists and thus neither does the reward ( or the sum of money they offered)

I am not sure if there is any actual reward offered currently.

I think a couple of celebs added to the NOTW reward and since that went bosom's up i would imagine so did the offer of money towards said reward.

The mccanns and chums have never advertised a reward and on the off chance that they do watch for the small print.

It will likely be paid out on her safe return.
Since we all know she is long dead ( along with the mccanns and chums and the MSM) there will not be a reward paid out.

If it said safe return, or, the arest, charge and prosecution of those involved, then there may have been a payout, as long as there was a guilty verdict.

Being seen to offer a huge reward makes the MSM look good, what you don't see is all the teeny tiny print that stops them paying up, all the clauses etc.

It is also noticeable the mccanns and chums have never offered their own reward such as from the fund.

If she was found and the fund offered a reward, what if there was less money in the fund than was offered unless it was ringfenced, and even then you can bet they would try not to pay up.

As we can see with their rules, the fund will never be used to help other children since, even if the persons involved were brought to justice, the fact is can and is used to support the family means they need never pay out as the family can and will claim they need it to support them, especially given the price of NZ white and they could claim they need it for vehicles for the twins, a new house as their current one is so well know, sundry bills for perhaps education, legal fees etc.


 As it stands there is no financial incentive to persuade someone with knowledge to talk.

I would imagine that if there was and a tapas member spoke u, there would no doubt be some clause banning payment to anyone related to the case such as the tapas 7,  etc.

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Re: Philomena McCann: "..one greedy, unscrupulous character.."

Post by jeanmonroe on 19.01.14 0:41

HOBS:
"I am not sure if there is any actual reward offered currently."
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There is a £20,000 'reward' on offer from the MET.

(Taxpayers money.)

The entire McCann and Healy families themselves though, personally, have never, ever, 'offered' a reward!

Not even 50p!

From their personal PRIVATE 'fighting/search fund' (made up of 'donations' from a group of handicapped children and OAP's and kiddies pocket money) of £1.8 MILLION!

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Post by Jemmied_Shatter on 19.01.14 0:46

Does anyone really listen to this wegian munter?

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Post by jeanmonroe on 19.01.14 1:00

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsHgEkd9uFw

REmind us again Phil

"They (McCanns) haven't told the twins WHERE and with WHO they think she (Madeleine) is WITH?

Probably 'outside' their bounds of responsible parenting!

But do TELL, Phil. pretty please.

Go on, we won't tell 'tiny tears' you said.

promise.

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Post by ultimaThule on 19.01.14 1:24

@jeanmonroe wrote:HOBS:
"I am not sure if there is any actual reward offered currently."
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There is a £20,000 'reward' on offer from the MET.

(Taxpayers money.)

The entire McCann and Healy families themselves though, personally, have never, ever, 'offered' a reward!

Not even 50p!

From their personal PRIVATE 'fighting/search fund' (made up of 'donations' from a group of handicapped children and OAP's and kiddies pocket money) of £1.8 MILLION!
£1.8million is what we know about from the published accounts of the limited company's fighting for a new lifestyle 'fund'.

However, as no breakdown of this sum is given, we don't know what proportion came from counter or online bank transfers, online donations via PayPal, cheques/cash sent to K&G Rothley, cash collected in buckets at football matches, from schools, coffee mornings, etc etc.  

Or how much of the cash which was being pressed onto the McCanns' relatives every time one of them ventured out in public found its way into the 'fund'. 

IMO £1.8million is merely the tip of the mountain of money that found its way into the wallet and purse of this duplicitous, deceitful, and devious couple.

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Post by lj on 19.01.14 5:17

@Jemmied_Shatter wrote:Does anyone really listen to this wegian munter?

Please help me out: what is a wegian munter?

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Post by Angelique on 19.01.14 6:01

I think it's a short form for "Glaswegian whinger/grumbler"

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Post by tigger on 19.01.14 6:07

Hobs wrote:
It is also noticeable the mccanns and chums have never offered their own reward such as from the fund.
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It would have led to more an uncontrolled sightings than they could cope with, I think.

After September 07 very little was heard about the rewards from Branson, Wyngate and such celebs.


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Post by bobbin on 19.01.14 8:01

@Angelique wrote:I think it's a short form for "Glaswegian whinger/grumbler"

Actually, 'Munter' means 'ugly woman' and that does not necessarily mean 'face / looks' only, but 'expression / attitude' too, so it's a very appropriate description considering how distinctly unpleasant it is to accuse someone who helps the parents in their hour of need, and to be so disparaged for so doing.
A true NEGATIVE.

Moreover, I would like to think that Gerry has got the sister he deserves.

When this case falls, after all of the deception and hard (but unconvincing) acting and the blatant lying that Gerry and Kate and their 'spokes-pink-person' and all of their entourage family and political hangers-on have 'perpetrated' it will all be, down to 'Uncle Phil'.

Why ?

Firstly, because Gerry and Kate can only blame someone else for their own faults and failures and secondly, because if 'Uncle Phil' hadn't cocked up on the UK /Portuguese international time zones she wouldn't have fired off like an enormous blunderbus, about the Jemmied Shutters, the Smashed Windows ....which Gerry had been stopped from preparing, when he was rumbled by Jez Wilkins... who inconveniently came out of his flat with his little boy ...(onto whom Phil, like her brother, will now pass the buck and claim that it is actually the kid who is solely to blame for the collapse of the whole case... because he is a little child)... who like many little children, had had difficulty going to sleep and had needed his father to do the normal thing and wheel him around for a while in a push-chair.

See, it's simple.

After 'Uncle Phil's' blurting her mouth off (followed by many other occasions.....oh Gerry.....such a liability your wee older sister has turned out to be....) then the blame falls fairly and squarely on the Wilkins' kid and his acquiescing father.

It is THEY who should go to prison, JW and his kid, who by the time this case is solved will probably be old enough to go to a proper grown-ups' jail.

'Uncle Phil' should be Knighted, her husband made a dame of the Empire and Gerry shall become the New Age God. Kate will be away with the fairies so calling her the fairy queen will probably be a fitting end to this long and tortuous modern-day saga.   sarcastic

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Post by Shhh on 09.05.14 19:58

Sorry for the resurrection but ^^ mentions the cheques sent direct to k&g.  You can bet your behind the sender made them payable to k&g direct not to the fund.  Would love to see their personal bank records

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Post by Issy on 09.05.14 22:02

@Shhh wrote:Sorry for the resurrection but ^^ mentions the cheques sent direct to k&g.  You can bet your behind the sender made them payable to k&g direct not to the fund.  Would love to see their personal bank records

You've no chance of seeing their bank records, even the police investigating their daughter's disappearance weren't allowed to see them, if my memory serves me right. Has SY asked to see any of their suspects' bank records yet? (Sorry if already mentioned, I don't always have time to read through all the posts.)

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Post by Guest on 09.05.14 22:14

Was there ever an 'official reason' why there bank details / records were forbidden to see the light of day...

Yes, i wonder how much was paid direct to K and G and not to the ltd comp.

Also would like to know how much john mccann decided to pay himself when he quit is job a.s.a.p to become a director. Must of been a payrise...

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Post by Guest on 09.05.14 22:18

http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/john-mccann/11/589/304

John McCann's profile does not confirm that he left his job.

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Post by petunia on 09.05.14 22:30

IMO the mccann's have gone from primarni 2007 to Savile row 2014,self catering 2007 to the best 5* hotels,that tells me all i need to know about this couple trying to find there precious daughter.

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Post by mariola on 09.05.14 22:30

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/john-mccann/11/589/304

John McCann's profile does not confirm that he left his job.
"We are a very proactive family".You are  a creepy wee bastard.

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Post by Guest on 09.05.14 22:48

Apologies then. I read numerous things saying he did quit his job straight away to become a director of the fund. IIRC there was thoughts at the time that why would he quit his job with mortgage, bills, family to support when MBM could be found straight away...


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Post by Guest on 09.05.14 22:48

@mariola wrote:
No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/john-mccann/11/589/304

John McCann's profile does not confirm that he left his job.
"We are a very proactive family".You are  a creepy wee bastard.
  big grin  too funny Mariola, yes that guy gives me the shivers

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