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Discussion on BBC Programme re MF - Inside Out 7.30 pm 22/11/10

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Discussion on BBC Programme re MF - Inside Out 7.30 pm 22/11/10

Post by Guest on 22.11.10 19:01

Thought we could have a thread dedicated to this programme here in the McCann case forum, as most people tend to read here.

Inside out tonight 7.30 pm Channel 980 - Sky

30 minutes to go...............anyone feeling apprehensive??

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Re: Discussion on BBC Programme re MF - Inside Out 7.30 pm 22/11/10

Post by Shibboleth on 22.11.10 19:05

I can watch it on iPlayer, but have no facilities to record it. Can anyone do this and put it on YouTube?

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Re: Discussion on BBC Programme re MF - Inside Out 7.30 pm 22/11/10

Post by Guest on 22.11.10 19:08

I'm sure someone will put it on you tube. In the meantime, can someone give a commentary while it's on for those that can't watch. My computer is upstairs, and the TV downstairs, so I can't unfortunately.

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Post by Rainbow on 22.11.10 19:22

I hope someone can put it somewhere as I dont have a TV either.

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Re: Discussion on BBC Programme re MF - Inside Out 7.30 pm 22/11/10

Post by Irish Eyes on 22.11.10 19:42

PFA are giving a running commentary here http://www.pfa2.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=6995&start=200

Not looking good.

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Re: Discussion on BBC Programme re MF - Inside Out 7.30 pm 22/11/10

Post by Ruby on 22.11.10 19:45

I'll reserve judgement as their view can be somewhat slanted

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Re: Discussion on BBC Programme re MF - Inside Out 7.30 pm 22/11/10

Post by littlepixie on 22.11.10 19:48

Wasn't as bad as I thought. Debbie Butler came across as OK. Mr Amaral was STILL described as "discredited". There are many whose ears will prick up at the mention of Tony's attempted private prosecution for neglect because many now feel they should have been prosecuted for neglect.
Sad that some of the people interviewed know nothing about the dogs evidence and the lies and non-cooperation of the parents and still believe in an abduction.

They also didnt mention that the book ban was overturned which I thought Simon Hare said they would mention.

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Re: Discussion on BBC Programme re MF - Inside Out 7.30 pm 22/11/10

Post by Ice_Maiden on 22.11.10 20:29

There are many whose ears will prick up at the mention of Tony's attempted private prosecution for neglect because many now feel they should have been prosecuted for neglect.
Oh good, I'm pleased that was mentioned. I was reading a blow-by-blow commentary on another site as the programme was being aired but they very conveniently failed to mention that the subject of child neglect had been raised. Now I wonder what else they omitted so I'll be looking forward to viewing it for myself.

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Re: Discussion on BBC Programme re MF - Inside Out 7.30 pm 22/11/10

Post by espeland on 22.11.10 20:44

@littlepixie wrote:Wasn't as bad as I thought. Debbie Butler came across as OK. Mr Amaral was STILL described as "discredited". There are many whose ears will prick up at the mention of Tony's attempted private prosecution for neglect because many now feel they should have been prosecuted for neglect.
Sad that some of the people interviewed know nothing about the dogs evidence and the lies and non-cooperation of the parents and still believe in an abduction.

They also didnt mention that the book ban was overturned which I thought Simon Hare said they would mention.


I thought Simon said that, too. But the program did what it said it was going to do: introduce the MF. And it did that, I think, well. It could have been a program which made fun of the MF - and it certainly didn't do that. I don't think Tony's previous interests came across very well, but we can't complain that they included it. I must also agree with KM, amazingly - I suspect many members of the Foundation will pick on another 'target' when the Madeleine affair is over.

That nitty-gritty matters in this case were ignored is a reflection of the purpose of the item - to introduce the MF, they weren't out to disprove the Mccann version of events. That is a job for 'the big boys' right now - Channel 4 and the Express group, for example. Details of the dogs' evidence, the Smith sighting, the Gaspar letters, etc, can be made public knowledge if we, as forum members, contribute where appropriate - such as posting to the SE Comments yesterday. The press and media, as has been accepted by most, are well aware of posts to fora: if they choose not to actively report these things right now, who are we to disagree?

The MF, particularly Tony and the other officers, has done its job well but what more is there to do? We've maintained contact with Snr. Amaral but are we, for example, going to be of any use to him in arranging TV interviews, newspaper articles, publisher, etc? I think not. Will the MF be effective in making the case public knowledge? The days of distributing leaflets are, I think, over. A television channel or newspaper will reach a much larger audience.

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Re: Discussion on BBC Programme re MF - Inside Out 7.30 pm 22/11/10

Post by Cherry on 22.11.10 20:46

I cant work out how you actually look at it on iplayer if anyone could advise. Thanks.

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Re: Discussion on BBC Programme re MF - Inside Out 7.30 pm 22/11/10

Post by littlepixie on 22.11.10 20:50

Someone said on another forum that its not on Cherry. Tony asked for a copy of it didnt he so we will see it at some point. I wished I had recorded it now but I only have a free sky box and not skyplus.

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Re: Discussion on BBC Programme re MF - Inside Out 7.30 pm 22/11/10

Post by Cherry on 22.11.10 20:54

thanks littlepixie, I will wait then until we are able to see it.

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Re: Discussion on BBC Programme re MF - Inside Out 7.30 pm 22/11/10

Post by theolivebranch on 22.11.10 21:51

Good evening. I managed to watch the programme and was rigid with nerves at first but found myself relaxing because it wasn't as bad as it could have been.
Tony Bennett came over as a quietly spoken, intelligent and knowledgable gentleman. And he was very believable. I already do, but someone seeing him for the first time must have been taken by what he was saying.
The relating to previous cases he has been involved in didn't do the Foundation any good though imo as here and only here I got the feeling that they were trying to make him look like some sort of fanatic. I also didn't loke the interviews with Debbie, thay muddied the waters I thought, certainly for people new to the Foundation.
All in all I am pleased with what I saw and wonder if it will increase interest in the Foundation.

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Re: Discussion on BBC Programme re MF - Inside Out 7.30 pm 22/11/10

Post by littlepixie on 22.11.10 22:08

I agree, they did seem to concentrate soley on Tony for a fair bit of the programme and one of the comments (something about him liking to be in front of the camera- NOT the verbatim words) didnt come across well.

If people only knew, how over the last 3 and a half years, anyone who did not believe the abduction theory had been threatened, stalked, outed, harrassed, had their posts twisted, been accused of things they didnt do, then they would realise why they didnt want their faces shown on tape. Tony doesnt mind his face being seen. That doesnt make him an exhibitionist, or glory seeker, in my humble opinion it means that he has either more guts than anyone else, or not as much to lose. I.E. He is retired and doesnt have to rely on someone employing him.

The above described tactics have been used to "frighten" people off commenting on the McCann case and it worked as a lot of the people who had doubts about the McCanns are now too scared to express their opinion. Can you believe that!! in the UK in 2010 afraid to state your opinion!!

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Re: Discussion on BBC Programme re MF - Inside Out 7.30 pm 22/11/10

Post by kangdang on 22.11.10 22:15

Anyone know where I can watch the programme, BBC East Midlands do not have it up for viewing yet!

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Re: Discussion on BBC Programme re MF - Inside Out 7.30 pm 22/11/10

Post by littlepixie on 22.11.10 22:17

I didn't really understand why Debbie was shown, only to say "Tony made me do it"
I will give her credit though, she didn't stick the knife in and I do believe her when she said she had death threats.

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Re: Discussion on BBC Programme re MF - Inside Out 7.30 pm 22/11/10

Post by ufercoffy on 22.11.10 22:20


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Re: Discussion on BBC Programme re MF - Inside Out 7.30 pm 22/11/10

Post by macy on 22.11.10 22:36

Here's the BBC East Midland programme

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pz-ERWo-3Uk

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Re: Discussion on BBC Programme re MF - Inside Out 7.30 pm 22/11/10

Post by Guest on 22.11.10 22:39

Inside Out programme now on you tube

@ufercoffy wrote:

given it a heading cos it looks like an old video from the still at the beginning


Thank you ufercoffy for posting this programme so quickly for us

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Re: Discussion on BBC Programme re MF - Inside Out 7.30 pm 22/11/10

Post by littlepixie on 22.11.10 22:40

Thanks ufercoffey, going to watch it again

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Re: Discussion on BBC Programme re MF - Inside Out 7.30 pm 22/11/10

Post by listener on 22.11.10 22:43

Yes, many thanks!

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Re: Discussion on BBC Programme re MF - Inside Out 7.30 pm 22/11/10

Post by Ruby on 22.11.10 22:46

Thanks ufercoffy

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Re: Discussion on BBC Programme re MF - Inside Out 7.30 pm 22/11/10

Post by Cheshire Cat on 22.11.10 22:55

Just watched it and I enjoyed it!

It was an interesting production and thought provoking. Simon Hare, in my view, has produced a pretty fair mini-documentary, working as he must within the media straight jacket.

Well done to all involved.

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