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Steel Magnolia in full cry...re Ed Smart and Dr Gerald McCann

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Post by Tony Bennett on 11.11.10 16:46

Ed Smarts good friend Dr.Gerald McCann - 11 November 2010.

http://steelmagnolia-steelmagnolia.blogspot.com/2010/11/ed-smarts-good-friend-drgerald-mccann.html

The Elizabeth Smart trial taking place as I write, a sham from start to finish. The chosen jury have already said they believe Elizabeth was abducted and raped by Mitchell, thats OK then a verdict of guilty before the trial had even begun. Mitchell, will be placed in a mental institution, locked away, forgotten, until he dies. Mitchell and Wanda never stood a chance, the longest time ever, for two people, to be held in prison, without a trial, it is unheard of. But hey its the Smart's girl and Ed makes his own rules . Mitchell , can never be released because the fear is, he may start to talk and although he has been' portrayed 'as a madman, someone out there might start to listen to this madmans ramblings and if they start to listen they may start to think and if they start to think , Ed and Elizabeth will have a lot of explaining to do.

Ed Smart , Gerald McCann along with their wives and cronies , the most evil specimens of the human race.

Dr.Gerald McCann, a well known contact of Ed Smart's, also claimed his daughter was abducted without a shred of evidence. Dr.Gerry , just like Ed Smart, told the police what the charge was going to be 'abduction' He did not search for her the evening she disappeared, instead he and his wife rang family and friends telling of a break- in , they claimed there was a broken and smashed shutter, a bit like the forensic which now seems to have disappeared on the window the Smarts claim Mitchell entered by. It is alleged the mesh was proven to have been slashed from inside out, if so, this implies an 'inside job'. The window may have been slashed by Elizabeth herself, but as I have said, forensic evidence seems to have disappeared, like so many things. The McCanns lied ,there was no break-in and the only fingerprints found on the window, belonged to the mother of the missing child. There was evidence , and then, well, there was'nt, just like the Smarts case

Dr.Gerald McCann, also had a 'patsy' lined up for his own childs abduction, his name, Robert Murat. Dr.McCann also paid a visit to Ed Smart and Ed repeated a'private' conversation on 'Larry King Live' that he had had with Dr.Gerald . Dr.Gerald said ' You know what Ed, I would not be surprised if something is not planted in the scenic'....I did not believe Dr.Gerry thought Ed would repeat those words on National TV but repeat them he did. Dr.McCann wanted to imply the Portuguese police were corrupt and were trying to set him up.(However, having seen Ed in action, I now believe it is possible, Ed 's remark, deliberate, to help his new friend Dr.Gerry implicate the police in a set- up)

Cadaver dogs did indeed pick up the scent of cadaver in the car hired by the McCanns. The Portuguese police believe Dr.McCanns child died in the holiday apartment ( cadaver also picked up in the apartment and clothing belonging to the childs mother) and Dr.Gerry , along with the help of his friends, who were on holiday with him, helped to hide her body . Why did they hide her body , fear of an autopsy and what it may reveal , perhaps ?

A few days into the disappearance of Madeleine, two colleagues of Dr.McCanns went to the police ,they had concerns about one of the friends on holiday with Madeleines parents, they made a statement , they wanted to help. Leicestershire Police in England decided NOT to pass this information onto the Portuguese police who were heading the investigation, for six whole months ?

America likes to be known as the land of free speech and would laugh at the banning or burning of a book. However, there is no free speech in America when it comes down to the Smarts, Ed ,like Gerry makes sure of it. Ed like Gerry also threatened to sue a newspaper The Enquirer, for suggesting Elizabeth was a runaway but Ed did not sue instead letting the suggestion lie real low in peoples minds..

Dr.Goncalo Amaral the co-ordinator of the Maddie investigation wrote a book based on the police files. This book also contains the statement held back by British police. The McCanns have gone to a lot of trouble to have this book banned and they succeeded , for a while, they are also claiming 1.2 million pounds from Dr.Goncalo Amaral for libel.

Dr.Amaral made an appeal against the banning of his book and won his case, the McCanns have now made another appeal to The Supreme Court to ban the book one more time. The McCanns cannot afford for the Gaspar statement to be known to the British public whatever the price, they must continue.

.http://www.algarveresident.com/story.asp?XID=38818

The Smarts also must continue their lie, for they too cannot let it be known Ed Smart abused the Amber Alert system,( only just put in place in Utah ) to cry 'abduction' for a runaway daughter who wanted a bit of fun.

The Smarts have made lots and lots of money and done very well out of their 'story' they really are untouchable. Gerry, I would imagine by rubbing shoulders with Ed had hoped for the same outcome. The McCanns though, look more like the poor relation, always disheveled, with a' just got out of bed' look. Where as the Smarts, are slick, professional, moving in a world Gerry can now only dream of.

The parents of Madeleine, once more, begging the public for money on the pre-text it is to search for their missing daughter ,they claim to have Private Investigators who are very expensive. The McCanns it is true , do need money but not to search for their daughter ,they now have some very serious Court debts mounting day by day. The two doctors will not sell their very large home but will wait for the gullible public to send in donations. Asking for donations to search for a child when you know she is dead, is fraud.

Dr. Goncalo Amaral , now in search of a publisher so the British people may read for themselves , in English ,what the McCanns have forbidden us to do , the reason as to why they were made 'arguidos' suspects, in the disappearance of their own daughter.

Below is the link for Dr.Katerina Gaspars police statement and I still ask why, the suggestion Dr.David Payne may be a paedophile was kept from the Portuguese investigation for six months? The McCanns desperation for the British public not to have access, I understand perefctly . I can only imagine how explosive this information would be if the general public were to read this over toast and marmalade, they would positively choke over their full English breakfast ... even to have a whiff would create a scandal of such large proportions, Gordon Brown who so brazenly helped the McCanns would have to be brought in for questioning along with Tony Blair who was Prime minister at the time of Madeleines disappearance. ALL eyes would go straight to the parents, followed by accusations of fraud.. The media of course do know about the allegations toward Dr.Payne, Gerry's good friend , but seem to have no interest in investigating if they are true or false, in fact they seem to have no interest at all in finding out what became of Madeleine.
The media have been gagged to a point, by the McCanns lawyers Carter Ruck, the press however, are permitted to write about the 'good doctors' but only all things positive, for example they are not allowed to print the McCanns have lost their case against Dr.Amaral and the book, once more for sale explaining how the investigation shows Madeleine McCann died in Apartment 5a May 3rd, 2007 and the parents hid her her tiny body....The McCanns and the Smarts two peas in a pod.

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/PJ/KATERINA-PAYNE-INCIDENT.htm

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Re: Steel Magnolia in full cry...re Ed Smart and Dr Gerald McCann

Post by Guest on 11.11.10 17:11

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Yep spot on, the Gaspar statement is what this is all about. It must not get into the public domain.

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BBC Esat Midlands reported this news in two sentences

Post by Tony Bennett on 11.11.10 17:31

@Tony Bennett wrote:http://steelmagnolia-steelmagnolia.blogspot.com/2010/11/ed-smarts-good-friend-drgerald-mccann.html
The media have been gagged to a point, by the McCanns lawyers Carter Ruck, the press however, are permitted to write about the 'good doctors' but only all things positive, for example they are not allowed to print the McCanns have lost their case against Dr. Amaral and the book, once more for sale explaining how the investigation shows Madeleine McCann died in Apartment 5a May 3rd, 2007 and the parents hid her her tiny body...
Just a small point of clarification.

I checked whether the BBC covered this story, I could find nothing.

I checked whether BBC TV East Midlands covered the story, given their extensive coverage of the case because the McCanns live in their area, and eventually got this reply from one of their journalists:

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I checked Nottingham TV's archive and found that East Midlands Today did cover the story in brief on October 19th, the day that news of the ban being lifted emerged in Portugal.

Here is what was reported:

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{OOV} A Portuguese court has overturned a ban on a book about the disappearance of the Leicestershire girl Madeleine McCann. Its author is Goncalo Amaral, the police officer who led the initial investigations into the three-year-old's disappearance in Praia da Luz in 2007. Her parents believe she is still alive, although police investigations have come to an end.

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Re: Steel Magnolia in full cry...re Ed Smart and Dr Gerald McCann

Post by YNG on 12.11.10 17:30

3 quotes that have always intrigued me.


Ed Smart ;

'Sometimes we do not understand where our actions lead us. When we think about what we have done to others, in that moment, we know it is not what we want and are ready for a solution'



Gerry McCann ;

'Sometimes people do things for reasons that even they cannot understand. An act of madness,, an accident or sudden impulse can lead to consequences that people may never have imagined or intended. Faced with such a situation we believe any human soul will ultimately suffer torment and feeling of guilt and fear'



Ed Smart - speaking to Larry King about a conversation with Gerry Mc. ;

“And Gerry truly believes that Madeleine is still alive, and this is diverting the attention from where it needs to be. And this morning when I spoke with him, he was so concerned that the Portugal police were under such pressure, he says, "Ed, I would not be surprised if they, you know, don't plant evidence in the car, you know, to have them think that there's DNA in this car that I rented after the fact is just outrageous, and what could they possibly have? There's no chance in the world." …………..

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Post by soulthief on 12.11.10 21:41

@YNG wrote: 3 quotes that have always intrigued me.


Ed Smart ;

'Sometimes we do not understand where our actions lead us. When we think about what we have done to others, in that moment, we know it is not what we want and are ready for a solution'



Gerry McCann ;

'Sometimes people do things for reasons that even they cannot understand. An act of madness,, an accident or sudden impulse can lead to consequences that people may never have imagined or intended. Faced with such a situation we believe any human soul will ultimately suffer torment and feeling of guilt and fear'



Ed Smart - speaking to Larry King about a conversation with Gerry Mc. ;

And Gerry truly believes that Madeleine is still alive, and this is diverting the attention from where it needs to be. And this morning when I spoke with him, he was so concerned that the Portugal police were under such pressure, he says, "Ed, I would not be surprised if they, you know, don't plant evidence in the car, you know, to have them think that there's DNA in this car that I rented after the fact is just outrageous, and what could they possibly have? There's no chance in the world." …………..
Machiavelli would be impressed!!

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Post by YNG on 12.11.10 22:52

@soulthief wrote:
@YNG wrote: 3 quotes that have always intrigued me.


Ed Smart ;

'Sometimes we do not understand where our actions lead us. When we think about what we have done to others, in that moment, we know it is not what we want and are ready for a solution'



Gerry McCann ;

'Sometimes people do things for reasons that even they cannot understand. An act of madness,, an accident or sudden impulse can lead to consequences that people may never have imagined or intended. Faced with such a situation we believe any human soul will ultimately suffer torment and feeling of guilt and fear'



Ed Smart - speaking to Larry King about a conversation with Gerry Mc. ;

And Gerry truly believes that Madeleine is still alive, and this is diverting the attention from where it needs to be. And this morning when I spoke with him, he was so concerned that the Portugal police were under such pressure, he says, "Ed, I would not be surprised if they, you know, don't plant evidence in the car, you know, to have them think that there's DNA in this car that I rented after the fact is just outrageous, and what could they possibly have? There's no chance in the world." …………..

Machiavelli would be impressed!!

" Those who rise from private citizen to prince by good fortune, rise easily, but struggle to stay there. Some gain states for money or by the favour of rulers, or by the corruption of soldiers. Such rely on the goodwill and fortune of others- two most inconstant and unstable things."

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Post by soulthief on 13.11.10 0:50

I like that YNG. bravo







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Post by Shibboleth on 13.11.10 6:53

You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.

By Abraham Lincoln, and very true it is too.

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Post by soulthief on 13.11.10 8:42

another great saying above, I ahve read the Elizabeth Smart stuff but have never read her father lied or that she ran away, where can I read more of this?

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Re: Steel Magnolia in full cry...re Ed Smart and Dr Gerald McCann

Post by Avery on 20.11.10 20:28

I don't believe all the bizarre theories about Ed Smart. I just think he is a very naive man who can't see evil. He let homeless people into his house to do repairs because he believed he was helping the poor. He probably fell hook line and sinker for Gerry McCann's tale because he can't believe parents would deceive in this manner.

The nutty theories surrounding the Smart case are not widely believed. She was abducted by nut case people and the trial is for real.

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Post by soulthief on 21.11.10 9:58

Just read the Ed Smart stuff and I am astounded, I always thought it was a bit weird that Elizabeth was within earshot of her family the whole time, this explains it, what a bloody role model for the McCanns!! They are evil to set up a man and woman to cover the fact that their daughter ran away.

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Post by Avery on 21.11.10 17:57

@soulthief wrote:Just read the Ed Smart stuff and I am astounded, I always thought it was a bit weird that Elizabeth was within earshot of her family the whole time, this explains it, what a bloody role model for the McCanns!! They are evil to set up a man and woman to cover the fact that their daughter ran away.

And how do you explain the fact she was found with the couple who were supposedly set up. If she was a run away would she have even associated with these crazy people? I find it very sad that a brutalized and raped young women has all these crazy stories being spread about her. If you study basic psychology you do understand the behaviour of victims in these situations.

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Post by soulthief on 21.11.10 18:17

@Avery wrote:
@soulthief wrote:Just read the Ed Smart stuff and I am astounded, I always thought it was a bit weird that Elizabeth was within earshot of her family the whole time, this explains it, what a bloody role model for the McCanns!! They are evil to set up a man and woman to cover the fact that their daughter ran away.

And how do you explain the fact she was found with the couple who were supposedly set up. If she was a run away would she have even associated with these crazy people? I find it very sad that a brutalized and raped young women has all these crazy stories being spread about her. If you study basic psychology you do understand the behaviour of victims in these situations.
If you read it you would have seen that prior to being held in custody he was clean shaven and the pair of them were normal, so who knows if she would have hung around with them, look at Charles Manson he is a hideous sight but the women were hooked on him...and some men!!, so the image excuse is crap! Funny no other prisoner has been kept in custody without charge for five years. Where is the 911 call? why did the police not take forensic samples?

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Post by Avery on 21.11.10 19:58

I didn't have to read he was clean shaven and normal because I followed the case closely. I saw the pictures of the nut case on the day he was arrested. Certainly not clean shaven and normal. They were both disheveled, dirty and bad shit crazy looking. You have been reading some nutty fictionalized account of what happened.

Those two were put in the looney bin right after their arrest for good reason.

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Post by soulthief on 21.11.10 20:27

@Avery wrote:I didn't have to read he was clean shaven and normal because I followed the case closely. I saw the pictures of the nut case on the day he was arrested. Certainly not clean shaven and normal. They were both disheveled, dirty and bad shit crazy looking. You have been reading some nutty fictionalized account of what happened.

Those two were put in the looney bin right after their arrest for good reason.
Well I can only go on what I have read...and until I read a more plausible explanation the jury is out for me...where as i was adamant now Im 60 40..so what do you know that makes you so certain?

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Post by Avery on 21.11.10 20:37

http://crime.about.com/od/sex/ig/Elizabeth-Smart/Brian-David-Mitchell.htm

hhttp://crime.about.com/od/sex/ig/Elizabeth-Smart/Mitchell-Disrupts-Competency-

http://crime.about.com/od/sex/ig/Elizabeth-Smart/Wanda-Ilene-Barzee.htm


Sorry I don't know how to post pictures on the internet. These are links to mug shots taken. In addition there were many stories in the papers quoting friends and relatives stating just how nuts they were. This case is what it seems to be. They were locked up in mental institutions until they were deemed fit to stand trial. No mystery there.

I don't think it does the Madeleine case any good to be associated with crazy internet theories. I do know that some of the Madeleine followers do believe in the Smart case conspiracy. I have no idea why, but to bring the association into the Madeleine case simply discredits those who believe the parents involvement. The Smart conspiracy theory can easily be discredited by fact.

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Post by soulthief on 21.11.10 23:11

@soulthief wrote:
@Avery wrote:I didn't have to read he was clean shaven and normal because I followed the case closely. I saw the pictures of the nut case on the day he was arrested. Certainly not clean shaven and normal. They were both disheveled, dirty and bad shit crazy looking. You have been reading some nutty fictionalized account of what happened.

Those two were put in the looney bin right after their arrest for good reason.
Well I can only go on what I have read...and until I read a more plausible explanation the jury is out for me...where as i was adamant now Im 60 40..so what do you know that makes you so certain?
Im commenting on it as a separate thing form the McCanns although there were some points I read that were similar I never mentioned the McCanns. Will look at your links smilie

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Post by Avery on 21.11.10 23:37

I never said you were connecting it to the McCanns. The orginal article was trying to do that. I question why someone is trying to do that. I am a North American who has followed the case in our media and I really do not think any sane person believes Ed Smart was involved. There have been court cases and plenty of facts on record including Wandas confession.

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Post by j.rob on 07.04.14 17:35

@soulthief wrote:Just read the Ed Smart stuff and I am astounded, I always thought it was a bit weird that Elizabeth was within earshot of her family the whole time, this explains it, what a bloody role model for the McCanns!! They are evil to set up a man and woman to cover the fact that their daughter ran away.

Well, well, well. A faked 'abduction by a paedophile' leads to the creation of Amber Alert in the States in 2002. So a few bright sparks over in the UK decided it would be fun to follow suit and have our very own 'faked abduction' story. So the press can be full of photos of pretty white girls and parents around the globe can become paranoid about kidnappers. And politicians can jump on the bandwagon.

All in my opinion, obviously.

Astonishing!

 I always wondered where the McCanns got their ideas from. And why Kate McCann became so obsessed with Amber Alert. The whole Smart 'kidnapping' Just days after her 'rescue' Elizabeth looks like she has just returned from a nine month spa break! Happy, smiling. Not like a child who has been violently sexually assaulted. No wonder Kate describes Elizabeth Smart as being "amazingly well adjusted." 

And that photo of her smiling with her father and President Bush in the White House as Bush signed new child safety measures into law.


http://thefraudulentelizabethsmart.blogspot.com.au/2010/11/globe-reported-lying-lizzy-met-with.html

However, as Tony Bennett has pointed out, the McCanns have the added complication of having to face some very embarrassing allegations made by two doctors, the Gaspers, about the possible sexual deviances of their holiday buddy David Payne. Whose lewd comments and gestures made in relation to Madeleine on a holiday were considered by Gerry McCann to be perfectly natural as he did not respond in any negative way at all. As noted by the Gaspers. 

IMO.

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Post by joyce1938 on 08.04.14 17:18

I just wonder ,amongst all the theories we have on here ,will the truth reveal something  we just have never thought of ? The stories given out by the taps 9 ,just maybe the good laugh they all expect ,to have kept us all trying to guess what did happen and what night etc etc . I cant help but wonder about this. I will say ,the amount of work some have given to this problem ,is beyond what we may have hoped for over the years ,thanks to all ,I read more than anything else ,so little left to say .joyce1938

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Post by HelenMeg on 08.04.14 17:50

@joyce1938 wrote:I just wonder ,amongst all the theories we have on here ,will the truth reveal something  we just have never thought of ? The stories given out by the taps 9 ,just maybe the good laugh they all expect ,to have kept us all trying to guess what did happen and what night etc etc . I cant help but wonder about this. I will say ,the amount of work some have given to this problem ,is beyond what we may have hoped for over the years ,thanks to all ,I read more than anything else ,so little left to say .joyce1938
Yes Joyce, I often wonder whether this forum and all the theories have covered  or got close to the truth. In all honesty, I guess not. There is probably a lot of information that we have not had
access to. However, I'm sure some of our theories carry elements of the truth. One thing for sure, there is a big reason for this cover up - otherwise she would have been declared accidentally dead at the time..

Cover up possibilities:

Paedophilia
Murder
Swinging
Sedation
Drugs
Child abuse of some sort

I'm sure we've covered all of those theories at some point.... high5

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Post by joyce1938 on 09.04.14 16:14

Yes Helen meg ,over the past 5 years I think it must be by now ,we have covered a lot of what you posted ,now I am hearing all similar questions asked by newer than me ,and that's fine makes us think back .  I am feeling we just cant believe the whole group of stories given to us by tapas interviews. you can probably see how all it seems to do is to confuse,and G mac said ,confusion is good  whow now what can we makeof that ?That's the reason they will never go before a court  in my view,too late for that . hope this doesn't come across as negative ,to new folk ,its just what it is ,stories and ums and arrs attatched to all they gave to police . so we go on hoping for some results one day ,I mst say my heart would go out to the small kids in that family ,if the day ever came . joyce1938

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