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Re: Madeleine Parents Back In Portugal Resort

Post by Guest on 12.12.09 17:38

Amaral should never have written that book. He was the senior copper on the case and should have had more respect for the missing child, not to mention the profession he has dedicated his life to, no matter what he believed. Now that it is written, I don't believe the McCanns should stifle it. What's done is done. They should be focusing their every waking hour on searching for their child, not scoring points with Amaral.

not really to do with point scoring though is it really. Her parents have said time and time again that someone in Portugal will know something that they think MAY be relevant, but won't bother coming forward because it's been put about that it was her parents involved. And that does a HUGE diservice to Madeleine herself, whichever side of the fence you are on surely?

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Post by Guest on 12.12.09 17:53

Raffle wrote:
Amaral should never have written that book. He was the senior copper on the case and should have had more respect for the missing child, not to mention the profession he has dedicated his life to, no matter what he believed. Now that it is written, I don't believe the McCanns should stifle it. What's done is done. They should be focusing their every waking hour on searching for their child, not scoring points with Amaral.

not really to do with point scoring though is it really. Her parents have said time and time again that someone in Portugal will know something that they think MAY be relevant, but won't bother coming forward because it's been put about that it was her parents involved. And that does a HUGE diservice to Madeleine herself, whichever side of the fence you are on surely?


raffle, its two and a half years on. Madeleine is the best known child on this planet. They have just had this new CEOP campaign which went worldwide. Dont you think anyone with any info would have come forward by now. Specially with a 1 million reward on offer (although they might not have heard about that cos it is never mentione)

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Post by Guest on 12.12.09 18:01

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Raffle wrote:
Amaral should never have written that book. He was the senior copper on the case and should have had more respect for the missing child, not to mention the profession he has dedicated his life to, no matter what he believed. Now that it is written, I don't believe the McCanns should stifle it. What's done is done. They should be focusing their every waking hour on searching for their child, not scoring points with Amaral.

not really to do with point scoring though is it really. Her parents have said time and time again that someone in Portugal will know something that they think MAY be relevant, but won't bother coming forward because it's been put about that it was her parents involved. And that does a HUGE diservice to Madeleine herself, whichever side of the fence you are on surely?


raffle, its two and a half years on. Madeleine is the best known child on this planet. They have just had this new CEOP campaign which went worldwide. Dont you think anyone with any info would have come forward by now. Specially with a 1 million reward on offer (although they might not have heard about that cos it is never mentione)
Obviously not. And I don't mean that nastily, there could be any number of combinations why people haven't/couldn't/won't come forward. Being told her parents killed her will likely be a huge factor in someone's mind somwehere who either advertenly or inadvertently holds the missing piece of the puzzle.

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Post by Darling Girl on 12.12.09 18:08

Raffle wrote:
Amaral should never have written that book. He was the senior copper on the case and should have had more respect for the missing child, not to mention the profession he has dedicated his life to, no matter what he believed. Now that it is written, I don't believe the McCanns should stifle it. What's done is done. They should be focusing their every waking hour on searching for their child, not scoring points with Amaral.

not really to do with point scoring though is it really. Her parents have said time and time again that someone in Portugal will know something that they think MAY be relevant, but won't bother coming forward because it's been put about that it was her parents involved. And that does a HUGE diservice to Madeleine herself, whichever side of the fence you are on surely?

Of course it does. But stifling the books existence does the McCanns themselves a disservice. A press release stating that they refute Amarals claims and will continue to search for their daughter would be enough. Keeping up the awareness and focusing on Madeleine and her plight would garner more support than wasting time taking Amaral to shreds. What is the point? Anyone desperate enough to read the book has found the means to do so already. The 'damage' is done.

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Post by Guest on 12.12.09 18:19

Even their efforts to ban the book wouldn't have been so bad, if and when the judgement is taken by the court upon hearing the case in January. I can cope with that if it is heard fairly on both sides. It is this constant going for the money that gets up most people's noses. They seem to want to sue everyone. They even said the would sue the PJ at one time, although they thought better of that. What is wrong with having an apology. Money won't bring Madeleine back.

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Post by Darling Girl on 12.12.09 18:27

candyfloss wrote:Even their efforts to ban the book wouldn't have been so bad, if and when the judgement is taken by the court upon hearing the case in January. I can cope with that if it is heard fairly on both sides. It is this constant going for the money that gets up most people's noses. They seem to want to sue everyone. They even said the would sue the PJ at one time, although they thought better of that. What is wrong with having an apology. Money won't bring Madeleine back.

Except that banning books doesn't sit well with many people. But yes, I take your point regarding the money. They don't seem too bothered about their being perceived as money motivated.

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Post by baconbutty on 12.12.09 19:45

Absolutely, DG.
Firstly, if someone tries to ban a book, it always looks as if they have something to hide.
Perhaps you remember Spycatcher by Peter Wright?

And I object most strongly when people issue edicts about what I am not allowed to read, more so when those people are the McCanns.

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Post by Guest on 12.12.09 19:56

I agree noone should be told what they can and cannot read, what I meant was people might not seem them in such a bad light if they didn't keep going for the money, rather than an apology. I think I worded it a bit wrong :oops:

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The McCanns didn't have any trouble hiring the best of the best for their lawyers, though

Post by Jolie on 12.12.09 20:08

@Cherry wrote:As far as I know it was Brian kennedy who hired metodo 3, and I cannot believe that he would not have done checks on any company he hired and would know whether or not that company specialised in missing children. It is very interesting.

Why did the McCann couple manage to find the best lawyers money can buy, but are so shit at hiring detective agencies to find Madeleine?

I don't think it's just a mistake or that they've been misled. These were intentional choices on their part. If they wanted reputable agencies searching for their daughter, the McCanns would have made certain to check out their backgrounds thoroughly before hiring them and would have hired the best of the best to carry out this work.

Where their freedom is at stake, they spare no expense to find the best lawyers of the land, both in the UK and Portugal, to represent their interests. When it comes to looking for their 'missing' daughter, they managed to hire not one, but two detective agencies with questionable backgrounds, both involved in criminal activities. How strange!

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Post by preciousramotswe on 12.12.09 22:57

It isn't strange at all.

As many have pointed out, finding a good lawyer is comparatively easy - finding PIs with integrity is very much harder.

And if you know of a good private orgnaisation for finmding a missing child, do post it up, there are a lot of people who would like to know of it.

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Here's a start, and it doesn't cost anything

Post by Jolie on 12.12.09 23:36

badmanners wrote:It isn't strange at all.

As many have pointed out, finding a good lawyer is comparatively easy - finding PIs with integrity is very much harder.

And if you know of a good private orgnaisation for finmding a missing child, do post it up, there are a lot of people who would like to know of it.

This is a non-profit organization that works internationally: http://www.kidfind.org/

I don't know how effective they are, but there are testimonials on their 'about us' page.

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What about Scotland Yard and MI5? Or is that MI6?

Post by Jolie on 12.12.09 23:44

As a US citizen, I'm not sure which UK government agency would be responsible for investigating and searching for an abducted child. Have Kate and Gerry McCann worked with any UK government agency, apart from the joint UK police/PJ investigation, in gaining their assistance in formally investigating the disappearance of their daughter? Or does Portuguese law prevent them from doing so? If it does, then how can they manage to use the private investigators, which are allegedly forbidden from conducting investigations in Portugal? Perhaps someone not blindly pro-McCann can explain it to me, so that I will be able to 'hear' them. I don't have a lot of confidence in the information provided by the pro-abduction folks.

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Post by littlepixie on 12.12.09 23:45

badmanners wrote:It isn't strange at all.

As many have pointed out, finding a good lawyer is comparatively easy - finding PIs with integrity is very much harder.

And if you know of a good private orgnaisation for finmding a missing child, do post it up, there are a lot of people who would like to know of it.

Well there's enough of them on the board of directors now to do it. Old Gezza and Kate have made a career of it. Kate has gone from part-time mum/GP to company director. Its her "Job" now, she works "really hard".

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Post by Patty O'Daws on 13.12.09 11:03

I thought their trip was supposed to be private?

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Post by Guest on 13.12.09 15:54

@Patty O'Daws wrote:I thought their trip was supposed to be private?

Sure it was supposed to, but then some pro-libel and police-corruption group furnished an old bag lady with some badly made posters to stand on the other side of street from the court house and shriek like a banshee, not so easy to be private then, is it? Luckily, they were all left outside though while the sane people who had an actual interest in the proceedings, including the journalists, were all inside the court-room.

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Post by Slartibartfast on 13.12.09 15:55

@Patty O'Daws wrote:I thought their trip was supposed to be private?

You'll have to take that up with the Media.

They were asked to respect their privacy but the media decided they wouldn't.

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Post by Pussycat on 13.12.09 18:44

@Slartibartfast wrote:
@Patty O'Daws wrote:I thought their trip was supposed to be private?

You'll have to take that up with the Media.

They were asked to respect their privacy but the media decided they wouldn't.

Who tipped off the media? OT but I can't believe Sky are allowing comments about this, they have not allowed 'McCann' comments for months

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Re: Madeleine Parents Back In Portugal Resort

Post by Guest on 13.12.09 19:27

Keir Simmons at ITV Blamed Brunt and Sky, But that works out for him.

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