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Post by Doug D on Sun Sep 04, 2016 12:41 pm

'Correio da Manha' article posted up by Paul Rees on the Controversy fb site with a dodgy google translation, which does seem to say Amaral is counter-suing for €500k himself
 
Millions of McCann reduced to 72,000 euros.
 
Disputed Goncalo Amaral for defamation can cost half a million euros to Kate and Gerry. Miguel Curado | 09:22SHARE 868 0 1 / 8
 
The financial capacity of Kate and Gerry McCann in the search for her daughter Maddie, who disappeared nine years ago in Praia da Luz, Algarve, is dwindling. The British couple even faces the possibility of soon be left with only 72,000 euros in the background 'Find Maddie', set up to finance the private investigation. Since the second half of 2007, when the fund 'Find Maddie' was created, which Kate and Gerry have received nearly five million in donations, as revealed by the English press. the travel expenses and payment of detectives companies (such as Spanish Metodo 3) caused a depletion in the back.
 
Late last year, the account had a balance of 890,000 euros, which is currently encrypt only 572,000 euros.
 
In brief, there is the possibility that the bank balance undergo further reduction.
The former PJ coordinator Gonçalo Amaral, who has this year seen the Lisbon Relationship give you reason in the process that he was moved by the McCanns, freeing him to pay 500,000 euros in damages, sued the couple for defamation.
 
The amount that the former investigator asks is also half a million euros.
 
If Gonçalo Amaral skirt winner, is expected to Kate and Gerry availing the background 'Find Maddie' to pay, leaving them with a balance of 72 thousand euros. for now, Maddie's parents try to reduce costs by eliminating the spokesman, Clarence Mitchell.
The investigation of the Metropolitan Police, which received in April 113,000 euros from the British government, should also deplete the budget in October.
 
http://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/milhoes-dos-mccann-reduzidos-a-72-mil-euros

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Post by aquila on Sun Sep 04, 2016 12:52 pm

@Doug D wrote:'Correio da Manha' article posted up by Paul Rees on the Controversy fb site with a dodgy google translation, which does seem to say Amaral is counter-suing for €500k himself
 
Millions of McCann reduced to 72,000 euros.
 
Disputed Goncalo Amaral for defamation can cost half a million euros to Kate and Gerry. Miguel Curado | 09:22SHARE 868 0 1 / 8
 
The financial capacity of Kate and Gerry McCann in the search for her daughter Maddie, who disappeared nine years ago in Praia da Luz, Algarve, is dwindling. The British couple even faces the possibility of soon be left with only 72,000 euros in the background 'Find Maddie', set up to finance the private investigation. Since the second half of 2007, when the fund 'Find Maddie' was created, which Kate and Gerry have received nearly five million in donations, as revealed by the English press. the travel expenses and payment of detectives companies (such as Spanish Metodo 3) caused a depletion in the back.
 
Late last year, the account had a balance of 890,000 euros, which is currently encrypt only 572,000 euros.
 
In brief, there is the possibility that the bank balance undergo further reduction.
The former PJ coordinator Gonçalo Amaral, who has this year seen the Lisbon Relationship give you reason in the process that he was moved by the McCanns, freeing him to pay 500,000 euros in damages, sued the couple for defamation.
 
The amount that the former investigator asks is also half a million euros.
 
If Gonçalo Amaral skirt winner, is expected to Kate and Gerry availing the background 'Find Maddie' to pay, leaving them with a balance of 72 thousand euros. for now, Maddie's parents try to reduce costs by eliminating the spokesman, Clarence Mitchell.
The investigation of the Metropolitan Police, which received in April 113,000 euros from the British government, should also deplete the budget in October.
 
http://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/milhoes-dos-mccann-reduzidos-a-72-mil-euros
That's not my understanding of it Doug D. I understand it to be that GA is not having to pay the £500k damages.

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Post by MayMuse on Sun Sep 04, 2016 1:20 pm

Reducing costs by eliminating their spokesman oh my tickled pink big grin

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Post by Doug D on Sun Sep 04, 2016 1:29 pm

Not sure. It does appear to say freed from €500k and also asks for €500k.

'NM' highlighted it from the Portuguese press & is I believe Portuguese herself, so she got that interpretation from the original.

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Post by sallypelt on Sun Sep 04, 2016 1:37 pm

http://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/milhoes-dos-mccann-reduzidos-a-72-mil-euros



A capacidade financeira de Kate e Gerry McCann na busca pela filha Maddie, desaparecida há nove anos na Praia da Luz, Algarve, é cada vez menor. O casal britânico enfrenta mesmo a possibilidade de, em breve, ficar com apenas 72 mil euros no fundo ‘Find Maddie’, constituído para financiar a investigação privada.

Desde o segundo semestre de 2007, quando o fundo ‘Find Maddie’ foi criado, que Kate e Gerry já receberam perto de cinco milhões de euros em donativos, segundo revela a imprensa inglesa.

Os gastos com viagens e pagamento a empresas de detetives (como a espanhola Metodo 3) causaram uma delapidação nos fundos. No fim do ano passado, a conta tinha um saldo de 890 mil euros, que neste momento se cifrará apenas em 572 mil euros.



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Em breve, existe a possibilidade de o saldo bancário sofrer nova redução. O ex-coordenador da PJ Gonçalo Amaral, que já este ano viu a Relação de Lisboa dar-lhe razão no processo que lhe foi movido pelos McCann, livrando-o de pagar 500 mil euros de indemnização, processou o casal por difamação. A verba que o antigo investigador pede é também de meio milhão de euros.

Caso Gonçalo Amaral saia vencedor, é previsível que Kate e Gerry recorram ao fundo ‘Find Maddie’ para pagar, deixando-os com um saldo de cerca de 72 mil euros.

Para já, os pais de Maddie tentam reduzir custos, dispensando o porta-voz, Clarence Mitchell. A investigação da Polícia Metropolitana de Londres, que recebeu em abril 113 mil euros do governo britânico, também deve esgotar a verba em outubro.





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Millions of McCann reduced to 72,000 euros

Disputed Goncalo Amaral for defamation can cost half a million euros to Kate and Gerry.

The financial capacity of Kate and Gerry McCann in the search for her daughter Maddie, who disappeared nine years ago in Praia da Luz, Algarve, is dwindling. The British couple even faces the possibility of soon be left with only 72,000 euros in the background 'Find Maddie', set up to finance the private investigation.

Since the second half of 2007, when the fund 'Find Maddie' was created, that Kate and Gerry have received nearly five million in donations, as revealed by the English press.


The travel expenses and payment of detectives companies (such as Spanish Metodo 3) caused a depletion in the back. Late last year, the account had a balance of 890,000 euros, which is currently encrypt only 572,000 euros.


In brief, there is the possibility that the bank balance undergo further reduction. The former PJ coordinator Gonçalo Amaral, who has this year seen the Lisbon Relationship give you reason in the process that he was moved by the McCanns, freeing him to pay 500,000 euros in damages, sued the couple for defamation. The amount that the former investigator asks is also half a million euros.

If Gonçalo Amaral skirt winner, is expected to Kate and Gerry availing the background 'Find Maddie' to pay, leaving them with a balance of 72 thousand euros.

For now, Maddie's parents try to reduce costs by eliminating the spokesman, Clarence Mitchell. The investigation of the Metropolitan Police, which received in April 113,000 euros from the British government, should also deplete the budget in October.

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Post by willowthewisp on Sun Sep 04, 2016 2:40 pm

Hi sallypelt,Sir Philip and his wife are now not short of a bob or two,seeing they fleeced BHS out of their assets,Kate and Gerry must have been left some business acumen tips, that Sir Philip had left in the Airplane he left at their disposal to Morocco in 2007?

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Post by plebgate on Sun Sep 04, 2016 6:05 pm

If Rocky does sue separately for £500,000 and wins then they will have to produce bank records and mortgage details etc if they say they are skint.

Is it possible that the tv company they sued could also counter sue them?

Things could get very interesting indeed.

Where are their millionaire backers?  If none are prepared to stump up for Pinkies wages then what chance they would bail them out if Rocky were to win any damages?

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Post by tnb on Mon Sep 05, 2016 12:11 am

I rather doubt GA will sue the McScamms, he's a better man than that. Leaving two kids without a home?
However there are a plethora of corporate others he could target.

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Post by BlueBag on Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:41 am

@tnb wrote:I rather doubt GA will sue the McScamms, he's a better man than that. Leaving two kids without a home?
In Britain?

They'll never be without a home.

They could live in a council house.

I hope he sues.

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Post by Miss Pandora on Thu Sep 22, 2016 9:16 pm

Amaral does not need to sue. He is better than that. All he needs to do it allow his book to be translated into English and publish this in the USA. The information that is being suppressed and largely ignored by the MSM will then be free to publicise and debate without fear of litigation. If an English publisher has the nerve to publish and distribute it then I am certain it will be read by many. The ramifications of this are obvious. There is a lot in this little book that is damaging to the tapas nine. Clearly SY know this. The Supreme Court must decide and let events take their course.

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Post by Tony Bennett on Thu Sep 22, 2016 10:55 pm

@Miss Pandora wrote:Amaral does not need to sue. He is better than that. All he needs to do it allow his book to be translated into English and publish this in the USA. The information that is being suppressed and largely ignored by the MSM will then be free to publicise and debate without fear of litigation. If an English publisher has the nerve to publish and distribute it then I am certain it will be read by many. The ramifications of this are obvious. There is a lot in this little book that is damaging to the tapas nine. Clearly SY know this. The Supreme Court must decide and let events take their course.
Well, they ought to hurry up, then.

This litigation has already lasted 7 years and 3 months, making it AFAIK the longest-running libel/damages case in world history, and indeed one of the longest-running court cases of any kind in world history.

The Portuguese judicial system has been exposed as inept - at least in this case. The case has lasted longer than the Second World War

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Post by lj on Fri Sep 23, 2016 1:42 am

In the US court cases against any government branch take much longer. It's their policy to bleed them out. 
We have a case against one of the departments going now for 15 year. Everyone said it would be clear cut and closed in no time. If we would do what the government does with not showing, openly defying orders etc we would be in jail by now. I could write a book by now.
The world is turning into a 3rd world banana republic with corruption everywhere you look.

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Post by Tony Bennett on Sat Sep 24, 2016 9:12 pm

@Tony Bennett wrote:
@Miss Pandora wrote:Amaral does not need to sue. He is better than that. All he needs to do it allow his book to be translated into English and publish this in the USA. The information that is being suppressed and largely ignored by the MSM will then be free to publicise and debate without fear of litigation. If an English publisher has the nerve to publish and distribute it then I am certain it will be read by many. The ramifications of this are obvious. There is a lot in this little book that is damaging to the tapas nine. Clearly SY know this. The Supreme Court must decide and let events take their course.
Well, they ought to hurry up, then.

This litigation has already lasted 7 years and 3 months, making it AFAIK the longest-running libel/damages case in world history, and indeed one of the longest-running court cases of any kind in world history.

The Portuguese judicial system has been exposed as inept - at least in this case. The case has lasted longer than the Second World War
@ Miss Pandora         The forum-owner has passed on to me your e-mail.

By way of response, in order to reply to a poster, click on the button, top right of the post you wish to answer, which says QUOTE. The person's post will then come up, with a pale yellow background. Then type your reply immediately below that.

I fear you have misunderstood my reply.

In your post, you wrote nine sentences. In fact, I agree with the main point you make in every sentences.

My response was simply a reminder to everyone here that the Portuguese justice system has actually failed both Goncalo Amaral and the McCanns in this case. It is completely, utterly unacceptable for any court system on earth to take 7 years and 3 months and still not be able to settle an issue between two parties. I have said this many times on here and I expect some folk get tired of me saying it. But, as has been said many a time, justice delayed is justice denied.

If my response came across as a criticism of your post, I apologise, but it was not a criticism of you at all. Not remotely.  

I am pretty sure that you would agree with my comment that 7 years and 3 months is a hopelessly excessive time for any court case to last. The Portuguese Supreme Court had all the issues before them when they heard the original appeal by the McCanns in March 2011. They should have settled the whole issue there and then. Yet more than five years later, it comes up in the Supreme Court a second time! It's hardly surprising that an official body recently said that Portugal had one of the worst and most corrupt judicial systems in Europe.

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Post by tnb on Sun Sep 25, 2016 12:04 am

@Tony Bennett wrote:
@Tony Bennett wrote:
@Miss Pandora wrote:Amaral does not need to sue. He is better than that. All he needs to do it allow his book to be translated into English and publish this in the USA. The information that is being suppressed and largely ignored by the MSM will then be free to publicise and debate without fear of litigation. If an English publisher has the nerve to publish and distribute it then I am certain it will be read by many. The ramifications of this are obvious. There is a lot in this little book that is damaging to the tapas nine. Clearly SY know this. The Supreme Court must decide and let events take their course.
Well, they ought to hurry up, then.

This litigation has already lasted 7 years and 3 months, making it AFAIK the longest-running libel/damages case in world history, and indeed one of the longest-running court cases of any kind in world history.

The Portuguese judicial system has been exposed as inept - at least in this case. The case has lasted longer than the Second World War
@ Miss Pandora         The forum-owner has passed on to me your e-mail.

By way of response, in order to reply to a poster, click on the button, top right of the post you wish to answer, which says QUOTE. The person's post will then come up, with a pale yellow background. Then type your reply immediately below that.

I fear you have misunderstood my reply.

In your post, you wrote nine sentences. In fact, I agree with the main point you make in every sentences.

My response was simply a reminder to everyone here that the Portuguese justice system has actually failed both Goncalo Amaral and the McCanns in this case. It is completely, utterly unacceptable for any court system on earth to take 7 years and 3 months and still not be able to settle an issue between two parties. I have said this many times on here and I expect some folk get tired of me saying it. But, as has been said many a time, justice delayed is justice denied.

If my response came across as a criticism of your post, I apologise, but it was not a criticism of you at all. Not remotely.  

I am pretty sure that you would agree with my comment that 7 years and 3 months is a hopelessly excessive time for any court case to last. The Portuguese Supreme Court had all the issues before them when they heard the original appeal by the McCanns in March 2011. They should have settled the whole issue there and then. Yet more than five years later, it comes up in the Supreme Court a second time! It's hardly surprising that an official body recently said that Portugal had one of the worst and most corrupt judicial systems in Europe.
I'm at a loss as to why you like others are in such a rush for the Portugese Judiciary to make a ruling in this case...calm down.

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Post by Verdi on Sun Sep 25, 2016 12:34 am

@tnb wrote:
I'm at a loss as to why you like others are in such a rush for the Portugese Judiciary to make a ruling in this case...calm down.
For a start, after well over seven years don't you agree that Goncalo Amaral deserves finality?  Would you like to be in his position, hanging in mid air, not able to move forward towards some quality of life for just doing a job - all because the irresponsible parents of a three year old little girl resent you investigating that loss?

Or would you echo the words of the mother, Kate McCann, who thought the man deserved to be miserable and feel fear?

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Post by Roxyroo on Sun Sep 25, 2016 8:40 am

@Tony Bennett wrote:
@Tony Bennett wrote:
@Miss Pandora wrote:Amaral does not need to sue. He is better than that. All he needs to do it allow his book to be translated into English and publish this in the USA. The information that is being suppressed and largely ignored by the MSM will then be free to publicise and debate without fear of litigation. If an English publisher has the nerve to publish and distribute it then I am certain it will be read by many. The ramifications of this are obvious. There is a lot in this little book that is damaging to the tapas nine. Clearly SY know this. The Supreme Court must decide and let events take their course.
Well, they ought to hurry up, then.

This litigation has already lasted 7 years and 3 months, making it AFAIK the longest-running libel/damages case in world history, and indeed one of the longest-running court cases of any kind in world history.

The Portuguese judicial system has been exposed as inept - at least in this case. The case has lasted longer than the Second World War
@ Miss Pandora         The forum-owner has passed on to me your e-mail.

By way of response, in order to reply to a poster, click on the button, top right of the post you wish to answer, which says QUOTE. The person's post will then come up, with a pale yellow background. Then type your reply immediately below that.

I fear you have misunderstood my reply.

In your post, you wrote nine sentences. In fact, I agree with the main point you make in every sentences.

My response was simply a reminder to everyone here that the Portuguese justice system has actually failed both Goncalo Amaral and the McCanns in this case. It is completely, utterly unacceptable for any court system on earth to take 7 years and 3 months and still not be able to settle an issue between two parties. I have said this many times on here and I expect some folk get tired of me saying it. But, as has been said many a time, justice delayed is justice denied.

If my response came across as a criticism of your post, I apologise, but it was not a criticism of you at all. Not remotely.  

I am pretty sure that you would agree with my comment that 7 years and 3 months is a hopelessly excessive time for any court case to last. The Portuguese Supreme Court had all the issues before them when they heard the original appeal by the McCanns in March 2011. They should have settled the whole issue there and then. Yet more than five years later, it comes up in the Supreme Court a second time! It's hardly surprising that an official body recently said that Portugal had one of the worst and most corrupt judicial systems in Europe.

I agree, it's a ridiculous amount of time to take! So obviously a money making exercise, with only the courts benefitting thus far

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Post by Verdi on Sun Sep 25, 2016 8:50 pm

Whatever stance one opts for in this tragic case - abduction, accidental death, homicide, manslaughter, wandering off alone into the dark - makes absolutely no difference to the root cause - the parents.  They and they alone are totally responsible for the fate of their daughter.

You can slate Goncalo Amaral or whoever else you care to name in order to exonerate the parents but it makes absolutely no difference - they and they alone are responsible for the fate of their daughter.

He might be the better man but I wouldn't fault Goncalo Amaral if he sued them for every penny they possess - he doesn't owe them anything, they owe him everything, he's been vilified by not only the McCanns but also the UK establishment.   His life has been on hold for over seven years as a result of their mendacious behaviour.  How dare they try to apportion blame on the very man that moved heaven and earth to find their missing daughter when all the time they were sitting on their rumps manipulating the investigation and raking in the cash.

Goncalo Amaral deserves recognition and recompense for all the suffering he has endured at the hands of a couple who lost a child through their own behaviour.   Nine years without sight nor sound of Madeleine,  it's almost certain she is no longer alive, to pretend otherwise, even through the eyes of a desperate parent, is but denial.  Goncalo Amaral can't be blamed for that.  He is not responsible for the loss of Madeleine McCann so why should he be made to be miserable and feel fear?

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Post by Roxyroo on Sun Sep 25, 2016 9:13 pm

@Verdi wrote:Whatever stance one opts for in this tragic case - abduction, accidental death, homicide, manslaughter, wandering off alone into the dark - makes absolutely no difference to the root cause - the parents.  They and they alone are totally responsible for the fate of their daughter.

You can slate Goncalo Amaral or whoever else you care to name in order to exonerate the parents but it makes absolutely no difference - they and they alone are responsible for the fate of their daughter.

He might be the better man but I wouldn't fault Goncalo Amaral if he sued them for every penny they possess - he doesn't owe them anything, they owe him everything, he's been vilified by not only the McCanns but also the UK establishment.   His life has been on hold for over seven years as a result of their mendacious behaviour.  How dare they try to apportion blame on the very man that moved heaven and earth to find their missing daughter when all the time they were sitting on their rumps manipulating the investigation and raking in the cash.

Goncalo Amaral deserves recognition and recompense for all the suffering he has endured at the hands of a couple who lost a child through their own behaviour.   Nine years without sight nor sound of Madeleine,  it's almost certain she is no longer alive, to pretend otherwise, even through the eyes of a desperate parent, is but denial.  Goncalo Amaral can't be blamed for that.  He is not responsible for the loss of Madeleine McCann so why should he be made to be miserable and feel fear?

Brilliant post! They blame one policeman doing his job but congratulate OG for doing basically nothing!
And Amaral is still being slated everyday on twitter, being called a wife beating drunk who was drinking on the job and planting the cadaverine! I.m not on twitter myself(can't see the point, looks like its mostly for antagonistic people to me) but I check the McCann tag on here to see what vile nonsense that creature MW is saying, and its usually this slander of Mr Goncalo.
I wouldn't blame him for suing them either, what's good for the goose...

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Post by Miss Pandora on Sun Sep 25, 2016 9:29 pm

@Tony Bennett wrote:
@Tony Bennett wrote:
@Miss Pandora wrote:Amaral does not need to sue. He is better than that. All he needs to do it allow his book to be translated into English and publish this in the USA. The information that is being suppressed and largely ignored by the MSM will then be free to publicise and debate without fear of litigation. If an English publisher has the nerve to publish and distribute it then I am certain it will be read by many. The ramifications of this are obvious. There is a lot in this little book that is damaging to the tapas nine. Clearly SY know this. The Supreme Court must decide and let events take their course.
Well, they ought to hurry up, then.

This litigation has already lasted 7 years and 3 months, making it AFAIK the longest-running libel/damages case in world history, and indeed one of the longest-running court cases of any kind in world history.

The Portuguese judicial system has been exposed as inept - at least in this case. The case has lasted longer than the Second World War
@ Miss Pandora         The forum-owner has passed on to me your e-mail.

By way of response, in order to reply to a poster, click on the button, top right of the post you wish to answer, which says QUOTE. The person's post will then come up, with a pale yellow background. Then type your reply immediately below that.

I fear you have misunderstood my reply.

In your post, you wrote nine sentences. In fact, I agree with the main point you make in every sentences.

My response was simply a reminder to everyone here that the Portuguese justice system has actually failed both Goncalo Amaral and the McCanns in this case. It is completely, utterly unacceptable for any court system on earth to take 7 years and 3 months and still not be able to settle an issue between two parties. I have said this many times on here and I expect some folk get tired of me saying it. But, as has been said many a time, justice delayed is justice denied.

If my response came across as a criticism of your post, I apologise, but it was not a criticism of you at all. Not remotely.  

I am pretty sure that you would agree with my comment that 7 years and 3 months is a hopelessly excessive time for any court case to last. The Portuguese Supreme Court had all the issues before them when they heard the original appeal by the McCanns in March 2011. They should have settled the whole issue there and then. Yet more than five years later, it comes up in the Supreme Court a second time! It's hardly surprising that an official body recently said that Portugal had one of the worst and most corrupt judicial systems in Europe.

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Re: Amaral suing for €500k?

Post by tnb on Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:44 pm

@Verdi wrote:
@tnb wrote:
I'm at a loss as to why you like others are in such a rush for the Portugese Judiciary to make a ruling in this case...calm down.
For a start, after well over seven years don't you agree that Goncalo Amaral deserves finality?  Would you like to be in his position, hanging in mid air, not able to move forward towards some quality of life for just doing a job - all because the irresponsible parents of a three year old little girl resent you investigating that loss?

Or would you echo the words of the mother, Kate McCann, who thought the man deserved to be miserable and feel fear?
I do agree that GA deserves justice and finality, however, I disagree with your assumption that he is hanging in mid air.

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Re: Amaral suing for €500k?

Post by tnb on Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:54 pm

@Roxyroo wrote:
@Tony Bennett wrote:
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@Miss Pandora wrote:Amaral does not need to sue. He is better than that. All he needs to do it allow his book to be translated into English and publish this in the USA. The information that is being suppressed and largely ignored by the MSM will then be free to publicise and debate without fear of litigation. If an English publisher has the nerve to publish and distribute it then I am certain it will be read by many. The ramifications of this are obvious. There is a lot in this little book that is damaging to the tapas nine. Clearly SY know this. The Supreme Court must decide and let events take their course.
Well, they ought to hurry up, then.

This litigation has already lasted 7 years and 3 months, making it AFAIK the longest-running libel/damages case in world history, and indeed one of the longest-running court cases of any kind in world history.

The Portuguese judicial system has been exposed as inept - at least in this case. The case has lasted longer than the Second World War
@ Miss Pandora         The forum-owner has passed on to me your e-mail.

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I fear you have misunderstood my reply.

In your post, you wrote nine sentences. In fact, I agree with the main point you make in every sentences.

My response was simply a reminder to everyone here that the Portuguese justice system has actually failed both Goncalo Amaral and the McCanns in this case. It is completely, utterly unacceptable for any court system on earth to take 7 years and 3 months and still not be able to settle an issue between two parties. I have said this many times on here and I expect some folk get tired of me saying it. But, as has been said many a time, justice delayed is justice denied.

If my response came across as a criticism of your post, I apologise, but it was not a criticism of you at all. Not remotely.  

I am pretty sure that you would agree with my comment that 7 years and 3 months is a hopelessly excessive time for any court case to last. The Portuguese Supreme Court had all the issues before them when they heard the original appeal by the McCanns in March 2011. They should have settled the whole issue there and then. Yet more than five years later, it comes up in the Supreme Court a second time! It's hardly surprising that an official body recently said that Portugal had one of the worst and most corrupt judicial systems in Europe.

I agree, it's a ridiculous amount of time to take! So obviously a money making exercise, with only the courts benefitting thus far
Please explain how a court could benefit?

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Re: Amaral suing for €500k?

Post by Verdi on Mon Sep 26, 2016 12:21 am

@tnb wrote:
@Verdi wrote:
@tnb wrote:
I'm at a loss as to why you like others are in such a rush for the Portugese Judiciary to make a ruling in this case...calm down.
For a start, after well over seven years don't you agree that Goncalo Amaral deserves finality?  Would you like to be in his position, hanging in mid air, not able to move forward towards some quality of life for just doing a job - all because the irresponsible parents of a three year old little girl resent you investigating that loss?

Or would you echo the words of the mother, Kate McCann, who thought the man deserved to be miserable and feel fear?
I do agree that GA deserves justice and finality, however, I disagree with your assumption that he is hanging in mid air.
Assumption?

Goncalo Amaral's private life, financial standing, reputation, career has been totally ruined by the actions of the hapless duo Gerry and Kate McCann.

His life is on hold until such times as he is freed from the restraints imposed by the actions of the hapless duo Gerry and Kate McCann.

He has been denied freedom of speech, his inherent right, by the actions of the hapless duo Gerry and Kate McCann.

He cannot effectively move forward towards a renewed life until the litigation imposed on him by the hapless duo Gerry and Kate McCann has been finalised.

In short - he is suspended in animation because of the actions of the hapless duo Gerry and Kate McCann.

I wish him well.

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Re: Amaral suing for €500k?

Post by Verdi on Mon Sep 26, 2016 12:28 am

@tnb wrote:
Please explain how a court could benefit?
I've got a better idea.

You tnb, please explain your midnight visitations that contribute nothing but vexation.   waiting


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Post by Verdi on Mon Sep 26, 2016 12:31 am

@Roxyroo wrote:
@Verdi wrote:Whatever stance one opts for in this tragic case - abduction, accidental death, homicide, manslaughter, wandering off alone into the dark - makes absolutely no difference to the root cause - the parents.  They and they alone are totally responsible for the fate of their daughter.

You can slate Goncalo Amaral or whoever else you care to name in order to exonerate the parents but it makes absolutely no difference - they and they alone are responsible for the fate of their daughter.

He might be the better man but I wouldn't fault Goncalo Amaral if he sued them for every penny they possess - he doesn't owe them anything, they owe him everything, he's been vilified by not only the McCanns but also the UK establishment.   His life has been on hold for over seven years as a result of their mendacious behaviour.  How dare they try to apportion blame on the very man that moved heaven and earth to find their missing daughter when all the time they were sitting on their rumps manipulating the investigation and raking in the cash.

Goncalo Amaral deserves recognition and recompense for all the suffering he has endured at the hands of a couple who lost a child through their own behaviour.   Nine years without sight nor sound of Madeleine,  it's almost certain she is no longer alive, to pretend otherwise, even through the eyes of a desperate parent, is but denial.  Goncalo Amaral can't be blamed for that.  He is not responsible for the loss of Madeleine McCann so why should he be made to be miserable and feel fear?

Brilliant post! They blame one policeman doing his job but congratulate OG for doing basically nothing!
And Amaral is still being slated everyday on twitter, being called a wife beating drunk who was drinking on the job and planting the cadaverine! I.m not on twitter myself(can't see the point, looks like its mostly for antagonistic people to me) but I check the McCann tag on here to see what vile nonsense that creature MW is saying, and its usually this slander of Mr Goncalo.
I wouldn't blame him for suing them either, what's good for the goose...
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Re: Amaral suing for €500k?

Post by Roxyroo on Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:50 am

@tnb wrote:
@Roxyroo wrote:
@Tony Bennett wrote:
@Tony Bennett wrote:
@Miss Pandora wrote:Amaral does not need to sue. He is better than that. All he needs to do it allow his book to be translated into English and publish this in the USA. The information that is being suppressed and largely ignored by the MSM will then be free to publicise and debate without fear of litigation. If an English publisher has the nerve to publish and distribute it then I am certain it will be read by many. The ramifications of this are obvious. There is a lot in this little book that is damaging to the tapas nine. Clearly SY know this. The Supreme Court must decide and let events take their course.
Well, they ought to hurry up, then.

This litigation has already lasted 7 years and 3 months, making it AFAIK the longest-running libel/damages case in world history, and indeed one of the longest-running court cases of any kind in world history.

The Portuguese judicial system has been exposed as inept - at least in this case. The case has lasted longer than the Second World War
@ Miss Pandora         The forum-owner has passed on to me your e-mail.

By way of response, in order to reply to a poster, click on the button, top right of the post you wish to answer, which says QUOTE. The person's post will then come up, with a pale yellow background. Then type your reply immediately below that.

I fear you have misunderstood my reply.

In your post, you wrote nine sentences. In fact, I agree with the main point you make in every sentences.

My response was simply a reminder to everyone here that the Portuguese justice system has actually failed both Goncalo Amaral and the McCanns in this case. It is completely, utterly unacceptable for any court system on earth to take 7 years and 3 months and still not be able to settle an issue between two parties. I have said this many times on here and I expect some folk get tired of me saying it. But, as has been said many a time, justice delayed is justice denied.

If my response came across as a criticism of your post, I apologise, but it was not a criticism of you at all. Not remotely.  

I am pretty sure that you would agree with my comment that 7 years and 3 months is a hopelessly excessive time for any court case to last. The Portuguese Supreme Court had all the issues before them when they heard the original appeal by the McCanns in March 2011. They should have settled the whole issue there and then. Yet more than five years later, it comes up in the Supreme Court a second time! It's hardly surprising that an official body recently said that Portugal had one of the worst and most corrupt judicial systems in Europe.

I agree, it's a ridiculous amount of time to take! So obviously a money making exercise, with only the courts benefitting thus far
Please explain how a court could benefit?

tnb- I was meaning the people who work at courts, i.e. lawyers and advisors, are the only ones benefitting. I used a broad term to describe the people who have managed to string this out for all these years.

Morning Verdi! thumbsup

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