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Post by Doug D on 05.09.16 19:05

sallyPelt,
 
Telegraph - Sept 2012 re the £500k:
 
 ‘It is understood that Scotland Yard was unable to establish the source of the funds in question or prove any criminal misconduct. A Whitehall source said that what was uncovered was “a matter for parliament rather than for the police”.
 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/9577876/Keith-Vaz-Secret-police-probe-into-Labour-MPs-500000.html
 
This makes little sense as under the Money Laundering Acts it is up to the account holder to show where the funds came from if questioned and ‘unable to establish’ should not be an acceptable conclusion.
 
As for his position, I can see him trying to hold onto his seat, (plenty of others have hung on) but his membership of the HASC must surely be untenable, dealing with new prostitution laws, pushing for poppers to be excluded from the ‘legal high’ drugs acts etc.
 
A ‘conflicted’ chairman or even member cannot possibly be right.

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Post by MayMuse on 05.09.16 19:35

@Tony Bennett wrote:A few months ago, a story emerged that Operation Grange was using private detectives from G4S.

The same article said that the government had paid G4S £170 million last year.

Vaz made a comment about it, which can be seen here:

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/485050/Madeleine-McCann-cops-huge-bill-for-private-eyes-MPs-check-12m-inquiry
The whole article is weird especially the video "promotion" at the  bottom showing former SY detective Peter Bleksley "advertising" his exclusive report in the Daily Express on the case, standing in front of the apartment in PDL. Has anyone ever read that report? 

As for Vaz's disgusting behaviour, I feel for his family in all of this. 
Was the expenditure for G4S ever shown in any FOI relating to the case?

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Post by MayMuse on 05.09.16 19:36

@Doug D wrote:sallyPelt,
 
Telegraph - Sept 2012 re the £500k:
 
 ‘It is understood that Scotland Yard was unable to establish the source of the funds in question or prove any criminal misconduct. A Whitehall source said that what was uncovered was “a matter for parliament rather than for the police”.
 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/9577876/Keith-Vaz-Secret-police-probe-into-Labour-MPs-500000.html
 
This makes little sense as under the Money Laundering Acts it is up to the account holder to show where the funds came from if questioned and ‘unable to establish’ should not be an acceptable conclusion.
 
As for his position, I can see him trying to hold onto his seat, (plenty of others have hung on) but his membership of the HASC must surely be untenable, dealing with new prostitution laws, pushing for poppers to be excluded from the ‘legal high’ drugs acts etc.
 
A ‘conflicted’ chairman or even member cannot possibly be right.
Money laundering is a key thing!
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KEITH VAZ LINKS TO RENT BOY CHARITY SCANDALS - FRONT PAGE COVERAGE TODAY

Post by Tony Bennett on 05.09.16 20:31

KEITH VAZ LINKS TO RENT BOY CHARITY SCANDALS - FRONT PAGE COVERAGE TODAY


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Post by Doug D on 05.09.16 20:39

Putting 2 + 2 together, this from a year ago, the Tory MP referred to was presumably Andrew Bridgen.
 
The picture at the top of the Exaro article was of Parliament on the left and Portcullis House on the right, the home of the HASC.
 
Police investigate senior Labour MP for ‘charging constituents’
 
By Tim Wood & Alex Varley-Winter 4th September 2015
 
Detectives are investigating a senior Labour figure over allegations that he has been charging constituents to represent them as an MP. It forms part of the police investigation, as reported in July, into claims of child sex abuse against the same MP.
A Conservative MP, who asked not to be named, went to police after hearing a series of claims from what he says are independent witnesses against his colleague in the House of Commons.
The Conservative MP told Exaro: “I believe that this man is totally corrupt, and I believe that he is also a paedophile.”
“I have spoken to a lot of people about him, and individually they have all given me different pieces of the jigsaw. I want a very bad man out of Parliament. Everybody thinks that he is a complete crook.”
Exaro first learnt of the police investigation in June from a well-connected source close to officers on the case. The source said that the Labour MP, who cannot be named for legal reasons, had sexually abused two teenagers, who had since attempted suicide and have been receiving treatment at a mental-health unit.
The Sun on Sunday and Mail on Sunday, separately from Exaro, ran stories in July to say that two MPs had reported the Labour politician to police over allegations of child sex abuse. He is accused of preying on boys, and having a liking for “young ragamuffins”. 
Exaro can reveal that the police investigation into the Labour MP is more wide-ranging than originally reported.
The Conservative MP said that police were also investigating allegedly corrupt councillors as part of the case. “The constituents pay the councillors, and there is a crooked MP at the top. He charges for stuff that MPs do as part of their normal job for their constituents.”
He understood this to include charging for casework, he said.
The MP added: “Someone is protecting him, and there is no appetite in Parliament for the issue of child sex abuse. When you start talking about it you quickly find that you have not got any mates. I do not detect an appetite for anyone to help me on this.”
Police were investigating allegations that the Labour MP had, for more than a decade, been sexually abusing boys, he said. His information was that one of those abused had attempted suicide.
The MP was driven to go to the police, he said, when he heard that one of those allegedly abused by the Labour MP was in fear of his life.
“He believes that the MP is going to kill him. I found that chilling. How could I live with myself if someone was murdered? That is why I went to the police.”
He drew a parallel with the scandal at the BBC over Jimmy Savile, the late television and radio star. “This has all the hallmarks of the Savile scandal. Everybody knows what a bad man he is, but he is still there,” he said.
The police force that is carrying out the investigation would make no comment.
Westminster has been besieged with claims of child sex abuse over many years by politicians and other public figures, and of a long-running cover-up.
Last week, Harvey Proctor, former Conservative MP, called a press conference to angrily deny allegations against him of child abuse, torture and murder, which the Metropolitan Police Service is investigating under ‘Operation Midland’.
And on Tuesday, Exaro revealed the existence of confidential files on alleged sexual offences by members of the House of Lords.
 
http://www.exaronews.com/articles/5653/police-investigate-senior-labour-mp-for-charging-constituents#.V822aLs7eUU.twitter

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Post by sallypelt on 05.09.16 20:40

And in a third letter to the Charities Commission, Mr Bridgen alleged Mr Vaz may have "used charitable funds to pay escorts for sex", and asked for this to be urgently investigated.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/keith-vaz-reported-police-sleaze-8773095

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Post by Doug D on 05.09.16 20:43

Comedians in Leicester today:


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A bouquet for Andrew Bridgen M.P.

Post by Tony Bennett on 05.09.16 21:42

@ DougD wrote:

Putting 2 + 2 together, this from a year ago, the Tory MP referred to was presumably Andrew Bridgen.

QUOTE: A Conservative MP [Andrew Bridgen], who asked not to be named, went to police after hearing a series of claims from what he says are independent witnesses against his colleague [Keith Vaz] in the House of Commons. The Conservative MP told Exaro: “I believe that this man is totally corrupt, and I believe that he is also a paedophile. I have spoken to a lot of people about him, and individually they have all given me different pieces of the jigsaw. I want a very bad man out of Parliament. Everybody thinks that he is a complete crook"...The Conservative MP said that police were also investigating allegedly corrupt councillors as part of the case. “The constituents pay the councillors, and there is a crooked MP at the top. He charges for stuff that MPs do as part of their normal job for their constituents.” He understood this to include charging for casework, he said. The MP added: "Someone is protecting him, and there is no appetite in Parliament for the issue of child sex abuse. When you start talking about it you quickly find that you have not got any mates. I do not detect an appetite for anyone to help me on this.” The MP was driven to go to the police, he said, when he heard that one of those allegedly abused by the Labour MP was in fear of his life. “He believes that the MP is going to kill him. I found that chilling. How could I live with myself if someone was murdered? That is why I went to the police.” He drew a parallel with the scandal at the BBC over Jimmy Savile, the late television and radio star. “This has all the hallmarks of the Savile scandal. Everybody knows what a bad man he is, but he is still there,” he said.

COMMENT: At last, a true and brave hero in the House of Commons! And to think for raising the criminal conduct of this former Labour Minister, his fellow MPs practically sent him to Coventry. What a sewer our House of Commons has become!

Well done Mr Bridgen, I'm sure all fellow CMOMM members and guests would join me in your valiant efforts to expose this man:

Andrew Bridgen MP  



And he was a committed campaigner for Brexit! A stark contrast with Keith Vaz, a former Minister for Europe, who described Brexit as a 'catastrophe'. But then who's listening to him now?  

CRIMES

A number of crimes are listed in the Exaro report (and well done Exaro on that report, even if you got one or two other things badly wrong):

1. Detectives are investigating a senior Labour figure over allegations that he has been charging constituents to represent them as an MP. "He charges for stuff that MPs do as part of their normal job for their constituents".

2. It forms part of the police investigation, as reported in July, into claims of child sex abuse against the same MP.

3. The source said that the Labour MP, who cannot be named for legal reasons, had sexually abused two teenagers, who had since attempted suicide and have been receiving treatment at a mental-health unit.

4. The Conservative MP said that police were also investigating allegedly corrupt councillors as part of the case. “The constituents pay the councillors, and there is a crooked MP at the top".

THE ROLE OF LEICESTERSHIRE POLICE

I also noted these references:

A. Police were investigating allegations that the Labour MP had, for more than a decade, been sexually abusing boys, he said.

B. The MP was driven to go to the police, he said, when he heard that one of those allegedly abused by the Labour MP was in fear of his life.

C. The police force that is carrying out the investigation would make no comment.

D. Detectives are investigating a senior Labour figure over allegations that he has been charging constituents to represent them as an MP. It forms part of the police investigation, as reported in July, into claims of child sex abuse against the same MP.

E. A Conservative MP, who asked not to be named, went to police after hearing a series of claims from what he says are independent witnesses against his colleague in the House of Commons.

F. Exaro first learnt of the police investigation in June from a well-connected source close to officers on the case. The source said that the Labour MP, who cannot be named for legal reasons, had sexually abused two teenagers, who had since attempted suicide and have been receiving treatment at a mental-health unit.

G. ...two MPs had reported the Labour politician to police over allegations of child sex abuse. He is accused of preying on boys, and having a liking for “young ragamuffins”. 

H. Exaro can reveal that the police investigation into the Labour MP is more wide-ranging than originally reported.

I. The Conservative MP said that police were also investigating allegedly corrupt councillors as part of the case.

Observations: These Exaro reports were from June and July last year. Has anyone been charged yet, or even arrested? Who is in charge of the investigation? Is Leicestershire Police the right force to investigate this, given the force's track record?

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Post by Tony Bennett on 05.09.16 23:14

Just adding this interesting repprt from ythe Indepenetn from two years ago:

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Keith Vaz: The 'Teflon MP' who enjoys the limelight

He was on the news again this week, at Luton airport to greet a Romanian migrant. Despite suspicion and ridicule, there seems to be no stopping the rise of the MP for Leicester East

         
          
When Transylvanian construction worker Victor Spiresau, 30, flew in to Luton airport at 7.30am on 1 January, on his way to a job at a London car wash, he must have been surprised to be invited for coffee by a complete stranger in arrivals. Mr Spiresau had flown from Romania to take advantage of the lifting of UK labour market restrictions on New Year’s Day. He probably expected to be questioned by suspicious border guards. Instead, he was greeted by a smiling, well-to-do British Asian gentleman with a bald head and steel-frame spectacles.

It wasn’t immediately apparent why Keith Vaz was at Luton. Being a Labour MP, he wasn’t representing the Government; nor was he there to condemn coalition attempts to restrict immigrants’ access to welfare services. The only complaint he raised was about the Government’s lack of “robust estimates” of the numbers of Romanians and Bulgarians heading for the UK, and to suggest a referendum.

So was it just a publicity stunt from a man who loves to be in the public eye? (Cartoonist Matt pictured him standing on a sea-lashed cliff, arms akimbo, under the headline “Keith Vaz goes to Cornwall to meet incoming storm.”) Was the airport visit to emphasise that the Home Affairs Select Committee is keen to avoid a repetition of the blunders of a decade ago, when 10 states became new EU members and, with restrictions on immigration, the ensuing flood caused social tensions that reverberate today? Or was he there as a walking embodiment of successful immigration?

For he is one of the UK’s most glamorous and influential British Asians, and the longest-serving in Parliament. He’s been MP for Leicester East since 1987, a member of the Privy Council since 2006, chairman of the Home Affairs committee since 2007. And he has spent much of his 26 years in the corridors of power mired in near-scandals, actual scandals, watchdog scrutinies, leaks, accusations, investigations, complaints and a suspension. Vaz has glided through it all in his serene, elaborately polite way. He’s been christened “the Teflon MP” and “Keith Vazeline” for the way he seems to slide past trouble, lubricated against failure.

To the UK Asian community, he’s an unofficial chief. His sister, Valerie Vaz, is also an MP, for Walsall South. His wife, Maria Fernandes, runs a law firm. The family is enormously well connected. A journalist who was invited for dinner chez Vaz in 1999 reports: “It was amazing. All the elite of the London-Indian and London-Pakistani communities were there, together with the cast of Goodness Gracious Me.” Vaz can also boast about his closeness to non-Asian power.

A party held at a Soho restaurant in July 2012 to celebrate his 25 years as an MP was attended by Tony Blair, Theresa May, Ed Milliband and police chief Bernard Hogan-Howe.

But for all his high-profile stances – especially strongly pro-EU – Vaz has often been accused of offering fast-track assistance to friends and associates. For all his high-minded campaigns – including one against violent video games – he has been vilified as a chronic self-publicist. No matter how much judicious chairmanship he can boast of at the Home Affairs Select Committee, he is best known for inviting Russell Brand along to talk about drugs and call him “mate”.

Nigel Keith Anthony Standish Vaz was born in Aden, in Yemen, in 1956. Both his parents were originally from Goa: the name Vaz is Goan-Portuguese. His father worked in the airline industry; his mother was a teacher. The family (he has two sisters) moved to England in 1965 and set up home in Twickenham. In 1970 his father killed himself, when Keith was 13. He did well at Latymer School, Hammersmith, and took a first-class degree in law at Cambridge University. In 1982, he joined the Labour Party and became a lawyer, working first for Richmond, then Islington borough councils. With remarkable precocity, he stood for Parliament as MP for Richmond and Barnes in 1983 while only 26, but lost his deposit. Two years later, he moved to Leicester to work as a solicitor, and in 1987 was elected MP for Leicester East with a majority of just under 2,000, at which point he gave up the law.
In his first five years he was a sitter on committees, including Home Affairs, where he has stayed for years. His first front-bench role was a shadow junior environment minister. After the 1997 Labour landslide, he was given his first government role as parliamentary private secretary to the Attorney General, and became minister for Europe in October 1999. But his success was blighted by a series of investigations into his financial dealings.

In 2001, he was accused of helping to process the British passport application of one of the Hinduja brothers, whose foundation had paid money into a company run by Vaz’s wife. After Vaz admitted he had “made representations” on behalf of the Hindujas and other British Asians, he left his post as minister for Europe on “health grounds”.  A report into the affair criticised Vaz for “deliberate collusion” with his wife in concealing facts about payments.

Another scandal broke a year later, when Vaz was accused of making false allegations about a retired policewoman who, he said, had upset his elderly mother in a phone call. The ex-PC had a friend who had worked for Vaz’s wife, and who claimed in a letter that the couple had employed an illegal alien as a nanny and received gifts from Asian businessmen, including the Hindujas. No evidence was found to support the allegations, but the police concluded that the officer had never phoned Vaz’s mother.  Three complaints were upheld against him, though, and he was suspended from the Commons for a month.

Since 2001, he has played more public roles in the area of race: as a patron of the Labour Party Race Action Group, as chairman of the Ethnic Minority Taskforce, as vice-chair of the Labour Party’s Women, Race and Equality Committee. He has also been embroiled in inquiries and suspicions. It was revealed that he helped a business associate, the Anglo-Iraqi billionaire Nadhmi Auchi, to avoid extradition to France where he was facing investigation for his alleged role in a fraud scandal.

Many were outraged when, after revelations that a group of Asian men had systematically “groomed” young white girls in northern cities, Vaz blamed the BNP for spreading the story.

The MPs’ expenses scandal revealed he had “flipped” his designated second home from his London flat to his Leicester constituency office, and, although this was not illegal, he was asked to pay back a four-figure sum.

It’s a quite a rap sheet, but Vaz has never stayed out of politics – or the limelight – for long. There’s a suavity about him that lets him sail through allegations of misconduct, murmurs of outrage from colleagues and disapproval from commentators. With race and immigration dominant in parliamentary debate, the major parties are happy – or resigned – to have such an accomplished political operator at the helm of the Home Affairs committee, even if he has steered his own career towards so many dangerous rocks.

Life in brief
Born: Nigel Keith Anthony Standish Vaz, 26 November 1956, Aden, Yemen.
Family: Parents originally from Goa, India. Family moved to England in 1965. Father worked in the airline industry, mother was a teacher. Two sisters: Valerie (MP for Walsall South), Penny (lawyer). Lives with his wife Maria Fernandes and their two children.
Education: Latymer Upper School, Hammersmith; Gonville and Caius College, Cambridge.
Career: Solicitor to Richmond Borough Council; senior solicitor to Islington Council; solicitor at the Highfields and Belgrave Law Centre in Leicester; elected to Parliament in 1982.
He says: “My finances were discussed by every newspaper in the country for a period of three years and were the subject of extensive examination.”
They say: “The most dangerous place in Britain? Between Keith Vaz and a camera.” Kevin Maguire, political commentator

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Post by sallypelt on 05.09.16 23:23

MPs on the House of Commons home affairs committee are threatening an unprecendented vote of no confidence in Keith Vaz if he refuses to resign as chairman when he meets them on Tuesday.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/05/keith-vaz-faces-no-confidence-vote-of-mps-if-he-refuses-to-quit/

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Post by sallypelt on 06.09.16 9:46

Carter-Ruck strikes again!

The Daily Mail reports:


The Sunday Mirror initially reported money was paid into an account used by one of the escorts by a man linked to the charity.

Silver Star has brought in law firm Carter Ruck, which denied its client made any inappropriate payments. Mr Vaz also denies the allegation


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3775550/Keith-Vaz-s-brief-encounter-young-man-London-hotel-Scandal-hit-MP-seen-CCTV-enjoying-half-hour-rendezvous-four-star-establishment-s-said-goes-wash.html


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Post by Tony Bennett on 06.09.16 10:36

@sallypelt wrote:Carter-Ruck strikes again!

The Daily Mail reports:


The Sunday Mirror initially reported money was paid into an account used by one of the escorts by a man linked to the charity.

Silver Star has brought in law firm Carter Ruck, which denied its client made any inappropriate payments. Mr Vaz also denies the allegation


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3775550/Keith-Vaz-s-brief-encounter-young-man-London-hotel-Scandal-hit-MP-seen-CCTV-enjoying-half-hour-rendezvous-four-star-establishment-s-said-goes-wash.html
The Mail's report is very entertaining, that's for sure!

Somebody has been keeping that video of Vaz entering that hotel with a young boy for over two years!

There seems to be a 'washing' theme. He sells industrial-scale washing machines and used to go into the hotel 'for a wash'. I know that our member 'Hobs' has observed that references to washing, showers, baths etc. are often a euphemism for sex, whether employed consciously or subconsciously. Perhaps 'Hobs' you have an observation to make on this?

    
re: "Silver Star has brought in law firm Carter Ruck..."

Shouldn't that read: "Mr Vaz, the man behind Silver Star, has brought in law firm Carter-Ruck..."?


ALSO THIS FROM WIKIPEDIA

KEITH VAZ WAS APPOINTED CHAIRMAN OF THE HOME AFFAIRS SELECT COMMITTEE IN UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCES

He was appointed on 27 July 2007, just 85 days after Madeleine McCann was reported missing, and just 31 days after Gordon Brown became Prime Minister on 26 June 2007. Gordon Brown had been in regular touch with Gerry McCann before becoming PM. Harriet Harman was the Leader of the House of Commons at the time and I think later, the Deputy Prime Minister. Her link to the Paedophile Information Exchange group through the National Council for Civil Liberties (now 'Liberty') is now well-known. Against that background, what do members and guests make of this Wikipedia entry, bearing in mind that Vaz has been in charge of this powerful committee for 9 years and 2 months...   

WIKIPEDIA - QUOTE

Vaz was elected Chair of the Home Affairs Select Committee, replacing John Denham, on 26 July 2007. He was unusually nominated to the Committee by government minister Harriet Harman, Leader of the House of Commons and Lord Privy Seal, rather than by the quasi-independent Committee of Selection which, under the Standing Orders of the House, nominates members to select committees.[33] Harman argued that this was because there was not sufficient time to go through the usual procedure before the impending summer recess.

The Chairman of the Committee of Selection told the House that the Committee had been ready to meet earlier that week, but had been advised by the Government that there was no business for it to transact.[34] Vaz was re-elected to the Committee's chairmanship in June 2015.[35]

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Post by sallypelt on 06.09.16 10:52

@Tony Bennett wrote:
@sallypelt wrote:Carter-Ruck strikes again!

The Daily Mail reports:


The Sunday Mirror initially reported money was paid into an account used by one of the escorts by a man linked to the charity.

Silver Star has brought in law firm Carter Ruck, which denied its client made any inappropriate payments. Mr Vaz also denies the allegation


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3775550/Keith-Vaz-s-brief-encounter-young-man-London-hotel-Scandal-hit-MP-seen-CCTV-enjoying-half-hour-rendezvous-four-star-establishment-s-said-goes-wash.html
The Mail's report is very entertaining, that's for sure!

Somebody has been keeping that video of Vaz entering that hotel with a young boy for over two years!

There seems to be a 'washing' theme. He sells industrial-scale washing machines and used to go into the hotel 'for a wash'. I know that our member 'Hobs' has observed that references to washing, showers, baths etc. are often a euphemism for sex, whether employed consciously or subconsciously. Perhaps 'Hobs' you have an observation to make on this?

    
re: "Silver Star has brought in law firm Carter Ruck..."

Shouldn't that read: "Mr Vaz, the man behind Silver Star, has brought in law firm Carter-Ruck..."?


ALSO THIS FROM WIKIPEDIA

KEITH VAZ WAS APPOINTED CHAIRMAN OF THE HOME AFFAIRS SELECT COMMITTEE IN UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCES

He was appointed on 27 July 2007, just 85 days after Madeleine McCann was reported missing, and just 31 days after Gordon Brown became Prime Minister on 26 June 2007. Gordon Brown had been in regular touch with Gerry McCann before becoming PM. Harriet Harman was the Leader of the House of Commons at the time and I think later, the Deputy Prime Minister. Her link to the Paedophile Information Exchange group through the National Council for Civil Liberties (now 'Liberty') is now well-known. Against that background, what do members and guests make of this Wikipedia entry, bearing in mind that Vaz has been in charge of this powerful committee for 9 years and 2 months...   

WIKIPEDIA - QUOTE

Vaz was elected Chair of the Home Affairs Select Committee, replacing John Denham, on 26 July 2007. He was unusually nominated to the Committee by government minister Harriet Harman, Leader of the House of Commons and Lord Privy Seal, rather than by the quasi-independent Committee of Selection which, under the Standing Orders of the House, nominates members to select committees.[33] Harman argued that this was because there was not sufficient time to go through the usual procedure before the impending summer recess.

The Chairman of the Committee of Selection told the House that the Committee had been ready to meet earlier that week, but had been advised by the Government that there was no business for it to transact.[34] Vaz was re-elected to the Committee's chairmanship in June 2015.[35]
Ever since this story broke, yesterday, I have had a sneaky feeling that these revelations are just a warm-up act of what's to come. Some are talking about a 90 minute video, and to-date, we've only heard, or seen, about 3 minutes of it. I think, this time, time's up for Vaz

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Post by aquila on 06.09.16 14:01

Vaz has stepped down according to the DM's breaking news.

BREAKING NEWS: Keith Vaz QUITS home affairs committee chairman job over prostitute scandal, saying: 'Those who hold others to account must themselves be accountable'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3775190/You-ve-got-time-Vaz-No-confidence-vote-looms-disgraced-MP-tries-cling-job.html#ixzz4JTnlXIWi
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This man has more front than Brighton. It's now to be seen whether the Labour Party will banish him. If they don't they are in deep do-do - well deeper do-do than they're already in - if that can be deemed possible.

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I sincerely, utterly sincerely hope the ordinary people of the Asian community turn their backs on this horrid creature.

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ETA: I hope I'm still allowed to voice an opinion without being  called a bigot, racist, homophobic, right wing, hate crime nutter.




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Post by willowthewisp on 06.09.16 14:24

It is widely known that the "Westminster Bubble,Clique" do not converse too well with the Electorate on numerous Political representations with the House Of Commons?
If the Police use the powers at their discretion from Parliament,you often see the"Different Approach"now clearly exposed by Scotland yard's failure to ascertain how Mr vaz,(Telegraph article) received large swaths of cash appearing in accounts he stated,had No connections to HSBC Bank,when he held account's at First Direct or Mapesbury Holdings? 
Yet when the same Police Force obtain access to other parts of Society,any large amounts of Cash say,£1000,upwards found within your abode and any reference of illegal drugs thought to have been used in the property,the public are shown by camera crews,Police Officers and Dogs combing the place for any "Secret Discrete"hiding places,Drug den,supplying to the public?  Low and behold if you are unemployed at that time of the raid,where you are grilled by the Police(Stasi style)and are held to account as to why you have such a very large amount of Cash at your disposal,why isn't it in a Bank for safety reasons?  As if "person's" find out of these sums of money in your abode,Criminal Activity would be likely,but No banks get Robbed,oh they are covered by Bank regulations to recover"Fraudulent Claims"?
One rule for the plebs and different"Code" to adhere to for the clique,£500,000 and £400,000 to pay Cash for Two sets of Property within 10-15 year period,but No money laundering you understand or illegal activity has taken place, as confirmed by Scotland Yard,"It is up to the House of Common's to decide"?

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Bigots and their phobias

Post by Tony Bennett on 06.09.16 14:38

@aquila wrote:ETA: I hope I'm still allowed to voice an opinion without being called a bigot, racist, homophobic, right wing, hate crime nutter.

You think that Islam is a bad religion, based on the ramblings of a womanising warlord, and that many Islamic cultures are backward = ISLAMOPHOBIC

You think that the European Union is an undemocratic institution which is not working at all well and is out of touch with its citizens = EUROPHOBIC

You like your country and its culture, like to celebrate its traditions, and think that the pace of inward migration is much too high = XENOPHOBIC (and/or RACIST)

You believe homosexuality is a lifestyle choice, that its practice can be unhealthy, and that marriage should be between a man and a woman = HOMOPHOBIC  

You do not buy the idea of 'non-binary gender' and believe that that a transgendered man-to-woman is not a real woman =
TRANSPHOBIC   

You believe that Jesus Christ literally rose from the dead and therefore was God incarnate, so you trust Him and have the nerve to say that all other religions are therefore wrong =
BIGOT 


All these six words are routinely used in exactly the above contexts

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Re: Keith Vaz hid real identity from male escorts he told: My name's Jim and I sell washing machines

Post by BlueBag on 07.09.16 8:33

They are called weaponised words.

They are used to kill free speech and short cut debate by ending the discussion.

We live in dangerous times.

The other common one is:

Question authority = Conspiracy Theorist.

Also anything ending in "denier".


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Anyone see the cartoon of Keith Vaz in The Times today.... oh dear! They have gone for the throat.

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Post by Tony Bennett on 07.09.16 9:26

@BlueBag wrote:They are called weaponised words.

They are used to kill free speech and short cut debate by ending the discussion.

We live in dangerous times.

The other common one is:

Question authority = Conspiracy Theorist.

Also anything ending in "denier".
Yes, @ BlueBag, YES. Concisely and accurately put.

And in the context of this forum: 'Anti-McCann Troll'



ETA:   And hastily bringing this back on topic - Keith Vaz >>>


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Post by Verdi on 07.09.16 12:58

The Right 'Orrible Keith Vaz - Member of Parliament for Leicester East

Appointment of Professor Alexis Jay as the new Chair of the Independent Child Abuse Inquiry
Posted on August 12th, 2016    

Keith has made a statement following the appointment of Professor Alexis Jay as the new Chair of the Independent Child Abuse Inquiry.

“I am most grateful to the Home Secretary for her courtesy of informing me in advance of her public statement to appoint Professor Alexis Jay as the new Chair of the Independent Child Abuse Inquiry.

http://www.keithvazmp.com/appointment-of-professor-alexis-jay-as-the-new-chair-of-the-independent-child-abuse-inquiry/

Closure of Children’s Heart Surgery at Glenfield Hospital
Posted on July 8th, 2016
  
“I am shocked and appalled at the decision by NHS England to close the heart surgery unit for children at Glenfield Hospital.
There is no basis for this decision. The care provided by staff at Glenfield Hospital is exemplary. Our children should not have to suffer because of NHS re-structuring.


http://www.keithvazmp.com/closure-of-childrens-heart-surgery-at-glenfield-hospital/

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Post by aquila on 07.09.16 13:27

If I were asked to choose between befriending a rattle snake or shaking hands with Vazeline Vaz, guess which one I'd choose.

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Post by Tony Bennett on 07.09.16 15:18

@aquila wrote:If I were asked to choose between befriending a rattle snake or shaking hands with Vazeline Vaz, guess which one I'd choose.
Not sure if this was posted yesterday, but Vaz has sent a blistering lawyers' letter to fellow MP Andrew Bridgen telling him to shut his gob or else:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1733332/keith-vaz-threatens-to-sue-fellow-mp-for-maliciously-spreading-false-and-highly-defamatory-scuttlebutt-about-him-after-male-prostitute-allegations/

Bridgen has responded robustly!

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Post by Verdi on 07.09.16 15:43

If homosexuals want to be totally accepted and integrated into society without prejudice, they need to start by looking inwards at their own attitudes - isolating themselves, establishing communities and opening gay oriented venues does not create a harmonious unanimous acceptance within general society.  They must also be encouraged to realise that their sexual persuasion will never ever be accepted by the laws of nature nor recognized by general society as models of a standard relationship and procreation.  Those who wish to promote sexual equality outside of the homosexual population, should take a long hard look at how many homosexuals conduct their lives and their attitudes towards acceptable moral standards.

Unfortunately it's not always a case of live and let live, I wish it was! 

That aside, when looking for something earlier today, I came across not only the links to the Keith Vas domain but this - a good example of the point I'm trying to make..

 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2015/12/30/bbc-takes-no-action-over-interview-linking-homosexuality-to-child-grooming/

.... and look at the side link....

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2016/09/04/a-transgender-4-year-old-is-transitioning-before-kindergarten/

This is not a straightforward issue of equality - it's entering very very dangerous ground.  Just don't expect me to accept anything that I consider to be totally immoral.  I await the backlash!

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Post by Doug D on 07.09.16 16:29

TB @ 3.18.
 
You can read the actual wording of the letter in my post Sep. 5 @ 6.31 in this thread.
  
From the way it was written, my honest first impression was that it was a ‘spoof’, only to then realize it was genuine.

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Post by willowthewisp on 07.09.16 16:48

Hi Verdi,thanks for the article,though i have not had time to read it yet?
children should be encouraged to be children first and foremost and we know how young children can be bullied or chastised for being different?
I do have first hand knowledge so to speak on this issue,but we know people mature at different stages of life,but young adolescents need to understand not just the basic,"Birds & Bees"revelations on sexual matters.
We know it is often not easy for the discussion of sexual nature,between adults and adolescents,be it Mother or Father,Teachers,Health Care providers(PC),but if you are not sure that you are ready to indulge in any sexual relationship,for your own safety,I would say abstain from it,until,your sure you feel comfortable about having a sexual relationship,we all go through the"Hormonal changes" into Adulthood?
What I find difficult to comprehend is the "Sexualisation"of young children,be it clothing(Beauty Pagents,now Dance classes), before they are able to deal with the situation that Adults profess as harmless"Growing up Stage",this I feel now and it is backed up by statistics on how young women feel about themselves,in the constant need to be out standlingly Beautiful,as opposed to being happy about their own persona!?
At first this was and always was directed on screen by film directors towards the female Sex and thus it hast moved to both Sexes and now to a"Transgenda Basis",we know that Sex takes place between different factors of the sexes,"each according to their own"used to be the message,which has changed to"How ever you feel" in today's environment?
The basic thing that is missing from this ever changing World is"Respect or Having Respect" for one another,without this, what do you have?

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Post by sallypelt on 07.09.16 18:07

Can Vaz REALLY stay on as an adviser to the Queen? Disgraced MP still holds posts on the Privy Council, national security committee and Labour's NEC



There is also no sign that Mr Vaz will give up his membership of the privy council - which entitles him to receive secret briefings, attend meetings with the Queen, and be addressed as 'Right Honourable'. 


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3778153/Can-Vaz-REALLY-stay-adviser-Queen-Disgraced-MP-holds-posts-Privy-Council-national-security-committee-Labour-s-NEC.html

Let me take this opportunity to post a few bits and bobs about UK DRUG LAWS:

Class A:

These include, cocaine and crack (a form of cocaine), ecstasy, heroin, LSD, methadone, methamphetamine (crystal meth), magic mushrooms containing ester of psilocin and any Class B drug which is injected.

Class A drugs are treated by the law as the most dangerous. Offences under the Misuse of Drugs Act can include:

[*]Possession of a controlled drug.
[*]Possession with intent to supply another person.
[*]Production, cultivation or manufacture of controlled drugs.
[*]Supplying another person with a controlled drug.
Offering to supply another person with a controlled drug.
[*]Import or export of controlled drugs.
[*]Allowing premises you occupy or manage to be used for the consumption of certain controlled drugs (smoking of cannabis or opium but not use of other controlled drugs) or supply or production of any controlled drug.
[*]Certain controlled drugs such as amphetamines, barbiturates, methadone, minor tranquillisers and occasionally heroin can be obtained through a legitimate doctor’s prescription. In such cases their possession is not illegal.

[*]Penalties
Maximum penalties under the Misuse of Drugs Act:
Drug classPossessionSupply
Class A7 years + fineLife + fine
Class B5 years + fine14 years + fine
Class C2 years + fine14 years + fine

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