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Post by plebgate on 04.09.16 17:55

@Tony Bennett wrote:The Sun has unearthed a quote from Keith Vaz in Hansard where he hears a fellow MP claiming that some MPs had used 'poppers' - and then rises from his seat to profess that this comes 'as a bit of a shock':

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1724259/shamed-mp-keith-vaz-spoke-of-his-shock-that-politicians-took-poppers-in-parliament-just-months-before-he-asked-for-sex-drug/

It came as a bit of a shock to me to read that he was bragging that he had had unprotected sex with one rent boy.  I truly cannot find words to describe how I feel about this awful man.

What chance do young people have of getting justice for the abuse they have suffered when people like vaz are in power?

Young lives ruined forever because of these despicable bastards.

As far as I know prostitution is still against the law even though Vaz and his Committee are looking to decriminalise it.    Will he be charged with any offences, will he eck as like.

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Post by willowthewisp on 04.09.16 17:55

@Tony Bennett wrote:The Sun has unearthed a quote from Keith Vaz in Hansard where he hears a fellow MP claiming that some MPs had used 'poppers' - and then rises from his seat to profess that this comes 'as a bit of a shock':

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1724259/shamed-mp-keith-vaz-spoke-of-his-shock-that-politicians-took-poppers-in-parliament-just-months-before-he-asked-for-sex-drug/

Bollywood,Me Gang'erm Style,so that's where the Poppers Are!?

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Post by sallypelt on 04.09.16 17:55

@Tony Bennett wrote:The Sun has unearthed a quote from Keith Vaz in Hansard where he hears a fellow MP claiming that some MPs had used 'poppers' - and then rises from his seat to profess that this comes 'as a bit of a shock':

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1724259/shamed-mp-keith-vaz-spoke-of-his-shock-that-politicians-took-poppers-in-parliament-just-months-before-he-asked-for-sex-drug/

If you want belly dancers, Keith has a gallery full of them. Here are a few more examples:



Leave the man have his fun. He's not harming anyone  titter

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Post by Tony Bennett on 04.09.16 18:00

A few months ago, a story emerged that Operation Grange was using private detectives from G4S.

The same article said that the government had paid G4S £170 million last year.

Vaz made a comment about it, which can be seen here:

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/485050/Madeleine-McCann-cops-huge-bill-for-private-eyes-MPs-check-12m-inquiry

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Post by sallypelt on 04.09.16 18:00

OK, just two more for the album, but NO MORE:


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Post by sallypelt on 04.09.16 18:03

@willowthewisp wrote:Oily Keith should fit well in the House of lords,Snort,Snoort?
It's almost become a requirement, these days, if you want a seat in the House of Frauds, you have to have a sleazy past.

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Post by Nina on 04.09.16 18:15

Thing is though it isn't illegal.
But isn't pushing Class A drugs illegal?  He may no inhale,  (or have I got Vaz mixed up with another politician across the pond) but he was condoning it, and quite prepared for pay for them so others could use them. Now, surely, that IS illegal?
clapping

If he were to be prosecuted for that who knows what he might let out in a court of law - therefore no prosecution in all probability.
Of course the drug part is illegal but the sordid sex part isn't Sallypelt and it is that part the MSM are majoring on. Absolutely disgraceful on every level.

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Post by Nina on 04.09.16 18:21

@Tony Bennett wrote:
@Rogue-a-Tory wrote:
@aquila wrote:At least we're in for a couple of days of washing machine jokes. big grin
Hopefully Vaz and his cronies will be hung out to dry Mr
Looks like he is about to 'tumble' from his position of power as Chairman of the Home Affairs Select Committee.



Keith Vaz was, of course, a former Minister for Europe, and recently described the Brexit vote as 'a catastrophe'.

In fact, former Labour Ministers for Europe are having rather a bad time of it recently. 

The previous one, Denis MacShane, got a six-moth jail sentence for fraud:

 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-25492017
Is this couple the newly weds Anni and Shrien Dewarni?

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Post by Get'emGonçalo on 04.09.16 18:26

@Nina wrote:
@Tony Bennett wrote:
@Rogue-a-Tory wrote:
@aquila wrote:At least we're in for a couple of days of washing machine jokes. big grin
Hopefully Vaz and his cronies will be hung out to dry Mr
Looks like he is about to 'tumble' from his position of power as Chairman of the Home Affairs Select Committee.



Keith Vaz was, of course, a former Minister for Europe, and recently described the Brexit vote as 'a catastrophe'.

In fact, former Labour Ministers for Europe are having rather a bad time of it recently. 

The previous one, Denis MacShane, got a six-moth jail sentence for fraud:

 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-25492017
Is this couple the newly weds Anni and Shrien Dewarni?

No, that's Shilpa Shetty.

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Post by Nina on 04.09.16 18:43

@Get'emGonçalo wrote:
@Nina wrote:
@Tony Bennett wrote:
@Rogue-a-Tory wrote:
@aquila wrote:At least we're in for a couple of days of washing machine jokes. big grin
Hopefully Vaz and his cronies will be hung out to dry Mr
Looks like he is about to 'tumble' from his position of power as Chairman of the Home Affairs Select Committee.



Keith Vaz was, of course, a former Minister for Europe, and recently described the Brexit vote as 'a catastrophe'.

In fact, former Labour Ministers for Europe are having rather a bad time of it recently. 

The previous one, Denis MacShane, got a six-moth jail sentence for fraud:

 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-25492017
Is this couple the newly weds Anni and Shrien Dewarni?

No, that's Shilpa Shetty.
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Post by Mirage on 04.09.16 18:48

Couldn't  just be an ordinary washing machine. It had to be industrial size.

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Post by Roxyroo on 04.09.16 21:15

@Nina wrote:
Thing is though it isn't illegal.
But isn't pushing Class A drugs illegal?  He may no inhale,  (or have I got Vaz mixed up with another politician across the pond) but he was condoning it, and quite prepa red for pay for them so others could use them. Now, surely, that IS illegal?
clapping

If he were to be prosecuted for that who knows what he might let out in a court of law - therefore no prosecution in all probability.
Of course the drug part is illegal but the sordid sex part isn't Sallypelt and it is that part the MSM are majoring on. Absolutely disgraceful on every level.


Poppers are legal
(But I don't know why because they are just as, if not more so, dangerous as drink, so if causing a crash while driving after poppers, I wonder where the law stands?!)

I've just noticed Doug D's comprehensive post on this subject, sorry.

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Post by Roxyroo on 04.09.16 21:19

@willowthewisp wrote:
@Doug D wrote:Willowthewisp:
 
New G20 Summit?
Sweet Hearts once again!?
 
Sorry, was it too cryptic?
 
   
It was meant to represent JG ‘formerly two flags and table top mountain’, on his twitter page picture.
Hi DougD,it was too cryptic for me, I am not on twitter or Facebook,as I am sure they have there uses in a modern World.
I feel as though they were initially set up along with Mobile phones,"Big Brother"devices by "security Services"GCHQ(Snowden, Assange,have revealed)to monitor the larger societies around the World,aka"Conspiracy theory" if you do not believe what your being told by your Government?
Today's World and most of the Conflicts created were by "Former European Colonies" usurping power to control the indigenous people,pillaging the Minerals from within their Continents,then leaving behind coerced "Tyrants"as a means to Democracy,fleecing their own people,leaving them with little hope in the World,except to move enmass to the wealthier"created Western World",now quickly drawing up the proverbial Bridge to stop them having a better future?
Trump and his Israel Wall for Mexican's,whilst his Family exploit Chinese people working in the clothing Industry producing Garments for Ivana's boutiques,making money for an ever Wealthier Trump Dynasty,whilst conning the USA public about putting America first and his Mafia backed friends,Coen,Rupert M?
The USA have since 1948 been trying to oust the Assad Dynasty from within Syria and its Borders,Israel took the Golan Heights from Syria as part of the Six Day War settlement agreement,fleecing Syria of Gas and Oil reserves,now the Syrian Country has discovered mass Gas,Oil within its Territories,ISIS has suddenly invaded Syria,but ISIS has nothing to do with the USA?


Your wee rant WillowtheWisp made me think of this
http://youtu.be/qgD1lNgCXDA

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Post by Doug D on 04.09.16 21:34

Roxyroo:
 
‘Poppers are legal’
 
but cocaine isn’t!
 
Just posted a long thread about Poppers, Legal Highs & the HASC at:
 
http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t13106-poppers-legal-highs-the-home-affairs-select-committee#348625
 
if you’ve time to read it all, but just a snip:
 
The subjective experience of inhaling “poppers”
 
“The effects start soon after inhalation but only last for a few minutes. People experience a dizzying ‘rush’ as heartbeat quickens and blood rushes to the head. A pounding headache, dizziness, nausea, a slowed down sense of  time, a flushed face and neck and a feeling of light-headedness are commonly reported effects” (Drugwise, 2016)
The brain perceives a transient “rush” or “high” as an indirect effect caused by increased blood flow caused by the dilation of blood vessels in brain and periphery. The effects of “poppers” on blood vessels in the brain should be considered to be “peripheral” as these lie outside the “blood-brain barrier”.
 
   
So not capable of driving then, but I believe fairly short lived effects.

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Post by aquila on 04.09.16 22:07

@Doug D wrote:Roxyroo:
 
‘Poppers are legal’
 
but cocaine isn’t!
 
Just posted a long thread about Poppers, Legal Highs & the HASC at:
 
http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t13106-poppers-legal-highs-the-home-affairs-select-committee#348625
 
if you’ve time to read it all, but just a snip:
 
The subjective experience of inhaling “poppers”
 
“The effects start soon after inhalation but only last for a few minutes. People experience a dizzying ‘rush’ as heartbeat quickens and blood rushes to the head. A pounding headache, dizziness, nausea, a slowed down sense of  time, a flushed face and neck and a feeling of light-headedness are commonly reported effects” (Drugwise, 2016)
The brain perceives a transient “rush” or “high” as an indirect effect caused by increased blood flow caused by the dilation of blood vessels in brain and periphery. The effects of “poppers” on blood vessels in the brain should be considered to be “peripheral” as these lie outside the “blood-brain barrier”.
 
   
So not capable of driving then, but I believe fairly short lived effects.
I'm sorry, I left the building when Keith Vaz said poppers assisted anal sex.

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Post by aquila on 04.09.16 22:43

I can't resist this,

Is Keith Vaz searching in the laundry room hoping to find



and



and on that note I'll sign out this evening.

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Post by Doug D on 05.09.16 8:57

In the words of John McEnroe, “You cannot be serious”
 
‘Mr Vaz was last night said to be determined to prove his innocence. A friend claimed the two prostitutes had actually been painters who had come to redecorate a new flat he had bought close to his family home in Stanmore, Middlesex.’
 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/04/keith-vaz-to-be-probed-over-charity-payments-to-prostitutes-alle/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
 
The ‘sting’ video clip on the Mirror site was just 2 minutes out of a 90 minute recording.
 
Vaz has not tried to deny that it is him in the video and I think even CM at his ‘pinkiest’ would have serious trouble trying to spin that conversation into something to do with painting and decorating.

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Post by sallypelt on 05.09.16 11:32

@Doug D wrote:In the words of John McEnroe, “You cannot be serious”
 
‘Mr Vaz was last night said to be determined to prove his innocence. A friend claimed the two prostitutes had actually been painters who had come to redecorate a new flat he had bought close to his family home in Stanmore, Middlesex.’
 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/04/keith-vaz-to-be-probed-over-charity-payments-to-prostitutes-alle/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
 
The ‘sting’ video clip on the Mirror site was just 2 minutes out of a 90 minute recording.
 
Vaz has not tried to deny that it is him in the video and I think even CM at his ‘pinkiest’ would have serious trouble trying to spin that conversation into something to do with painting and decorating.

I believe there's a lot more to come out, and that's why Vaz is "stepping aside, temporarily" to see just what else they have on him. In such cases, there is a drip, drip release of material. Any journalist worth his/her salt will have plenty more up their sleeves to back up their claims, so let's wait and see how things unfold.

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Post by Tony Bennett on 05.09.16 16:54

@sallypelt wrote:I believe there's a lot more to come out, and that's why Vaz is "stepping aside, temporarily" to see just what else they have on him. In such cases, there is a drip, drip release of material. Any journalist worth his/her salt will have plenty more up their sleeves to back up their claims, so let's wait and see how things unfold.
The lady (I think it's a lady) who does the aangirfan blog has today put together a very useful compilation of information about Keith Vaz's contacts, with lots of pictures of him meeting top people all over the world (she is very good at this sort of thing). Here's the link:  
http://aanirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2016/08/keith-vaz-male-prostitutes-and-child.html

It did put me in mind of Jimmy Savile and, yes, as sallypelt has also found out independently, there is a definite Jimmy Savile-Keith Vaz connection.

The fact that Vaz was a Solicitor for Richmond Council when there was a 10-day burst of publicity about Elm House back in 1982 doesn't prove anything, but if he already had certain perverted interests at that stage of his life (he would be 25), he would surely have taken an interest in it; I would imagine the Legal Department of Richmond Council would have been consulted about the allegations about what was going on there at the time.

His loud support for Greville Janner is more than a tad suspicious - and to my mind raises issues about the protection of both Janner and Vaz perhaps being given by senior figures in Leicestershire Police. 

anngirfan has a fascinating collection of photos of Vaz which in itself doesn't prove any wrongdoing, but does show him as a man of power and influence, and even 'charisma' (if people like Savile and Vaz can be said to have charisma)

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Post by sallypelt on 05.09.16 17:19

Here is a link to a 2013 article, where K Vaz is being asked if he had heard about Gordon Close or Elm House


http://google-law.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/keith-vaz-mp-knows-nothing-about-elm.html

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Post by Michael99 on 05.09.16 17:40

Leicestershire, don't forget Task.

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Post by willowthewisp on 05.09.16 18:15

Hi Mr Tony Bennett,thanks for the link to Aangirfan site and Teflon Keith?

Are the "Dams" about to be broken in regard to child abuse cover up,it seems remarkable that the UK Police had access to a hell of a lot of Evidence over the past fifty years or more,yet couldn't extend to Criminal charges being brought to the"Perpetrators"carrying out these vile obscene acts? 
Brian Gerresh and Detective John Metropolitan Police Service,Care Homes,Prostitution Rings In and around London Boroughs,Richmond, Islington?
Lord Hague's clean bill of Health in the Care Homes associated to the Wales Area,Bryn Alyn and Estyn,Lord Hague associated to "Le Circle" when in a Government position?
The announcement of the closure of Exaro,seems to be linked somehow to"Operation Midland,Fernbridge"and the renewed interest to Generals and (HP) and Kitty Richards fiasco,especially since a "New Appeal"by one of the original accusers for a case review regarding the "Yorkshire Force" involvement and cliff suing the BBC over the live coverage of the Raid on his abode?  
Was Keith Vaz set up like a"Kipper" or as an Eric(When the press feed on the small sprats)cast out to them by Officialdom or just acting out his"Predilections" it remains to be seen? 
The alleged child Abuse inquiry is on it's "Fourth Leader"and there have been mass demonstrations that the Investigation Inquiry is not what it purports to be,with resignations from the Scottish Inquiry,citing Government Interference in their case of Child abuse allegations?
The public are not being made aware of the findings of the ever ongoing"Heaute De La Grange"Jersey Investigations,thought to involve a certain cigar smoking individual,with connections to Numerous former Prime Ministers and MP's (who gave him access to Institution Buildings) and Royalty?
Then we have the Dunblane,Thomas Hamilton massacre of innocent children and their Teachers,with a special D Notice from Michael Forsyths Inquiry,Operation Ore?
In 2008,the Metropolitan Borough Police Service and Interpol were alerted to possible"Paedophile Rings" from within Europe may have been responsible for Madeleine McCann's disappearance from her Holiday home,the UK Police confirmed they could not find any connections of Madeleine's disappearance to the (Marc Dutroux) linked Rings, dating back to 1990's?  
It is thought by many Belgium people that the  Marc Dutroux affair was never properly investigated of the "Main Instigators" left unexposed and Numerous amounts of Taped evidence suddenly became to have disappeared,lost in transaction during the case Trail,of which several person's suddenly died,whilst to be in supposed good Health,Frank Beck and his solicitors Death spring to mind?
Yet in October 2013,DCI Andy Redwood's revelation moment,that at least 3"Bungling Burglars" are now the main suspects on Madeleine McCann's disappearance 3 May 2007?

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Post by plebgate on 05.09.16 18:27

IMO Vaz must have powerful connections as on the lunchtime news today I heard that the PMs spokesman has said that it is up to Vaz as to whether he steps aside as Chairman of the Committee.

Er, excuse me.   How can it be up to him?   This is a very serious matter as it involves rent boys and the mention of cocaine possibly being paid for.

Both these actions are against the law as far as I am aware.

Is it now acceptable for an MP to be splattered all over the media about such things and yet no-one in power seems to want to sort the matter out, i.e. sack him?

MPs are representatives of the general public and are voted into PUBLIC OFFICE.   How then can anyone say (as some have including Corbyn reported yesterday) that this is a private matter.   No it aint, he is a public figure representing US the voters and taxpayer who pay his salary and EXPENSES.

It is a sorry state of affairs when the PM of Great Britain says it is up to him whether he steps aside I believe and if that is her view then I have even less faith in her as PM than I did before.

The whole system of HOC and HOL needs overhauling by people the general public can trust, but some things will  never change.   

It really is an outrage imo.

He should be sacked from the Committee and booted out of the Labour Party IMHO.

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Post by Doug D on 05.09.16 18:31

From Guido Fawkes blog today.
 
Initially thought this was a spoof, but it does appear to come from Vaz’s solicitor Mark Stephens of Howard Kennedy
 
Do serious solicitors really write using the words ‘scuttlebutt’ and ‘shabby behaviour’?
 
It seems that they do.
 
 

Keith Vaz’s lawyers are threatening to sue his neighbouring MP, Andrew Bridgen:
 
Dear Mr Bridgen
We act on behalf of your fellow Leicestershire MP, Keith Vaz.
 
Our client has been, for quite some time, aware that you have been maliciously spreading false and highly defamatory scuttlebutt about him. You know that these allegations are wholly false and it is troubling that a fellow Member of Parliament from a neighbouring constituency should be so recklessly indifferent as to the truth.
 
Mr Vaz has for some time now chosen to ignore your increasingly desperate attempts to besmirch him. Mainly because as you did so, the people to whom you spoke, including include your fellow conservative (sic) MP’s have told Mr Vaz. However, the time has come where our client will no longer tolerate your spreading of intentional untruths. We are writing to put you on formal notice that if this shabby behaviour continues our client will no longer turn a blind eye to this and take steps to sue you personally for libel and false privacy, conspiracy to injure and indeed any other appropriate torts, holding you personally responsible not only for damages but also costs.
 
This letter does not require a substantive response, but does require an acknowledgement of receipt so that it is abundantly clear you understand the jeopardy in which you now stand.
 
…………………………….
 
Who to believe; Keith Vaz, a well known liar caught consorting with rent boys, or the MP who called him a liar who consorted with rent-boys? Isn’t it all a bit late now Keith?
 

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Post by sallypelt on 05.09.16 18:38

@plebgate wrote:IMO Vaz must have powerful connections as on the lunchtime news today I heard that the PMs spokesman has said that it is up to Vaz as to whether he steps aside as Chairman of the Committee.

Er, excuse me.   How can it be up to him?   This is a very serious matter as it involves rent boys and the mention of cocaine possibly being paid for.

Both these actions are against the law as far as I am aware.

Is it now acceptable for an MP to be splattered all over the media about such things and yet no-one in power seems to want to sort the matter out, i.e. sack him?

MPs are representatives of the general public and are voted into PUBLIC OFFICE.   How then can anyone say (as some have including Corbyn reported yesterday) that this is a private matter.   No it aint, he is a public figure representing US the voters and taxpayer who pay his salary and EXPENSES.

It is a sorry state of affairs when the PM of Great Britain says it is up to him whether he steps aside I believe and if that is her view then I have even less faith in her as PM than I did before.

The whole system of HOC and HOL needs overhauling by people the general public can trust, but some things will  never change.   

It really is an outrage imo.

He should be sacked from the Committee and booted out of the Labour Party IMHO.

Many are saying that this is a "private matter" but Vaz is...or was, in a very powerful position,  and it leaves him open to blackmail, if he doesn't bend to favours. Take this, for example,  taken from The Telegraph article of 2012:

"Detectives went to court to obtain production orders requiring several high street banks to provide full details of Mr Vaz’s financial affairs.
They apparently show huge sums of money for an MP earning less than £100,000 a year being moved in and out of his bank account".

Was it ever revealed  where these payments came from?

Link to full article, below:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/9577959/The-Teflon-MP-who-counts-leaders-among-his-friends.html

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