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Keith Vaz hid real identity from male escorts he told: My name's Jim and I sell washing machines

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Post by Doug D on 04.09.16 6:18

Set up like the proverbial………
 
When will they ever learn?
 
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/keith-vaz-hid-real-identity-8763804#ICID=sharebar_twitter
 
Keith Vaz hid real identity from male escorts he told: My name's Jim and I sell washing machines
 
00:01, 4 SEP 2016 UPDATED 00:58, 4 SEP 2016 BY NICK DORMAN
 Vaz blurted out the pseudonym as he was about to engage in sexual activity with two Eastern European prostitutes
 
Keith Vaz tried to hide his real identity from two male escorts by telling them he was a washing machine salesman named Jim.
He blurted out the pseudonym as he was about to engage in sexual activity with two Eastern European male escorts.
 
As they discussed sex, the men asked the married Labour MP about his work. Mr Vaz said: “These are industrial washing machines, that I sell. Industrial. For big – for hotels.”
 
He went on to say the machines were used to clean towels in bulk.
Minutes later, as the men said they undressed, one of the escorts asked Mr Vaz: “What’s your name, by the way?”
 
He replied: “Jim”, then spelt it out letter by letter, saying: “J-I-M.”
 
But Mr Vaz had already been rumbled because one of the escorts said he ­recognised the famous and powerful MP from his frequent appearances on television.
 
Mr Vaz gave the false moniker at his meeting with the men eight days ago.
It followed a string of text messages in which details of the late-night rendezvous – timings, venue and financial arrangements – were discussed.
 
   
Continues…………..

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Post by Doug D on 04.09.16 6:33

Closely followed by this.
 
Personal interest declared to the committee I wonder?
 
Keith Vaz-led inquiry warns against prosecuting prostitutes' clients in biggest vice laws shake-up for generations
 
00:01, 4 SEP 2016 UPDATED 00:49, 4 SEP 2016 BY NICK DORMAN
Keith Vaz leads the powerful Home Affairs Select Committee which is warning AGAINST bringing in a new law to prosecute people who pay for sex
 
Keith Vaz leads the powerful Home Affairs Select Committee which is overseeing the biggest shake-up of Britain’s prostitution laws in generations.
 
And its initial findings warned AGAINST bringing in a new law to prosecute people who pay for sex.
 
The inquiry was launched in January and unveiled an interim report on July 1. Entitled simply, ‘Prostitution’, it runs to 53 pages.
 
It took evidence from experts including Nikki Holland, the National Police Chiefs Council’s lead for prostitution and sex work.
 
Committee members, including Mr Vaz, visited Denmark and Sweden to see differing approaches of dealing with sex workers – male as well as female.
 
The interim report recommended significant changes in existing laws so that soliciting and brothel-keeping are decriminalised.
 
It noted that sex work is “often linked to criminality, including trafficking, coercion and illegal drugs”.
And it cautioned against introducing a ‘sex buyer law’ – in place in other countries – which could criminalise men who pay for sex.
 
The report, unveiled in a blaze of publicity, said Mr Vaz’s committee was “not yet persuaded that the sex buyer law is effective in reducing, rather than simply displacing, demand for prostitution, or in helping the police to tackle the crime and exploitation associated with the sex industry.”
It added that a sex buyer law would be “based on the premise that prostitution is morally wrong and should therefore be illegal, whereas at present the law makes no such moral judgement”.
 
As far back as January 2009, Mr Vaz opposed then Home Secretary Jacqui Smith’s proposal to introduce new laws criminalising men who pay for sex from prostitutes who have been trafficked.
He told a House of Commons debate on the proposed Police and Crime Bill: “I am not convinced that the best course of action is to prosecute, in the proposed way, men who go into situations where they wish to buy sex from prostitutes.
 
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/keith-vaz-led-inquiry-warns-8763801

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Post by Doug D on 04.09.16 6:40

And this tweet sums it up:
 
Dominyk Tiller ‏‪@Dom_T4 5h
5 hours ago
   
Unfortunately for Keith Vaz, there is legitimate public interest in knowing someone chairing inquiry on prostitution is involved with it.

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Post by Doug D on 04.09.16 8:22

At least he hasn’t gone down the usual road of trying to deny it.
 
Snips:
 
VETERAN Labour MP Keith Vaz last night stood down from chairmanship of the Home Affairs Select Committee after he was exposed for paying young men for sex.
The married father-of-two was caught meeting two Eastern European male prostitutes, believed to be Poles, for sex eight days ago and boasting about having unprotected sex, according to a newspaper.
Mr Vaz, 59, has been chairman of the Home Affairs Select Committee – which monitors crime, immigration and drugs policy - for nearly a decade. He has previously said he is ‘not convinced’ men who pay for sex should be prosecuted.
The committee is currently overseeing a major shake-up of the UK’s prostitution laws.
The Labour MP for Leicester East since 1987 told The Mail on Sunday in a statement last night that he was stepping aside from chairing the committee.
He also said he had referred the allegations to his solicitor and claimed he had been the victim of a sting operation.
A friend insisted that Mr Vaz, who has one son and one daughter with lawyer wife Maria, was not resigning completely, suggesting he will wait to see if he has enough support among MPs to remain on the committee.
 
 
A friend of Mr Vaz said that while the politician accepted he had been foolish, he believed he had been the victim of a newspaper sting.
He also suggested he might have been drugged during the encounter with the two men.
The friend added that Mr Vaz had first met the men while they were working as decorators.
Last night Mr Vaz said in a statement: ‘I am genuinely sorry for the hurt and distress that has been caused by my actions in particular to my wife and children.
‘I will be informing the Committee on Tuesday of my intention to stand aside from chairing the sessions of the Committee with immediate effect.’
 
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3772784/Let-s-party-started-Married-Labour-statesman-Keith-Vaz-met-male-prostitutes-London-flat-wanted-man-drugs.html

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Post by Doug D on 04.09.16 8:43

True to form, no mention of Vaz standing down on the BBC yet.

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Post by Doug D on 04.09.16 9:08

Andrew Marr has mentioned it at last when reviewing the front pages - 'a huge story'

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Post by aquila on 04.09.16 9:24

No rinse, repeat, fast spin cycle is going to get Vaz out of this one.

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Post by Rogue-a-Tory on 04.09.16 9:42

Just a further example, if it were needed, of poachers being the gamekeepers at Westminster & hiding in plain sight.

They all make me ache.

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Post by aquila on 04.09.16 10:13

At least we're in for a couple of days of washing machine jokes. big grin

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Post by nomendelta on 04.09.16 10:17

The fact that he says it could be a sting just shows that the puppet masters go very high up. As far as his guilt is concerned, it matters not that it was a sting. But as far as the bigger picture is concerned, it matters greatly. The press KNEW about Savile and could quite easily have snared him if they wanted to. Same with Cliff - if he's guilty of anything as rumoured, the pres absolutely KNOW it but would rather chase z-list celebs with silly little stories.

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Post by Doug D on 04.09.16 10:31

Allegations against Vaz are nothing new although he was not actually named by the press when this previous story came out last year:
 
Senior Labour MP Reported to Police for Current Child Abuse Allegations Involving Vulnerable Boys
 
by DONNA RACHEL EDMUNDS 20 Jul 2015
 
A senior Labour politician has been accused of sexually abusing a number of vulnerable boys over a period spanning at least a decade. Some of the boys were allegedly “delivered” to his hotel room, while others are said to have been abused on a mental health ward.
The allegations follow a string of similar cases said to have been perpetrated by politicians, with some victims claiming the abuse took place as long ago as the 1960s.
According to The Sun, the allegations were made by two parliamentary colleagues of the accused, one a Conservative, and the other a Labour member. So far, both the accusers and the accused have not been named.
 
Continues…………
 
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/07/20/senior-labour-mp-reported-to-police-for-current-child-abuse-allegations-involving-vulnerable-boys/

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Post by Doug D on 04.09.16 10:48

From the Guido Fawkes blog this morning:
 
http://order-order.com/2016/09/04/244563/
 
Keith Vaz was under police investigation over year ago on suspicion of financial corruption and historic allegations of under-age sex. Speaker Bercow was informed of this and fellow MPs demanded – Andrew Bridgen in writing – that he step down from his position on the Home Affair Select Committee. The Speaker protected Vaz…
 
It is widely known around Westminster that Vaz – who owes his career to Greville Janner – was the unidentified MP in this Sun front page from last year.
 
 
Guido has been hinting for years about the dark side of Keith Vaz. Vaz offering to buy cocaine for rent boys is at the mild end of Vaz’s sleazy life and times.
 
More is to come out about the disgusting Vaz that will truly shock Westminster…
 
 
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And of course ‘Head of Legal Services’ at Richmond at the time of the Elm Guest House raid.

As for 'Financial corruption' - from memory something about £500k but I can't remember off hand what it was about.

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Post by Doug D on 04.09.16 11:06

Keith Vaz: Secret police probe into Labour MP's £500,000
 
A police investigation into a high-profile Labour MP discovered that he apparently held hundreds of thousands of pounds in a series of bank accounts, The Daily Telegraph can disclose.
 
By Robert Winnett, Holly Watt and Claire Newell


9:55PM BST 30 Sep 2012
 
snips:
 
The Scotland Yard inquiry said funds believed to have been “of a suspicious nature” were paid into current and savings accounts in the name of or linked to Keith Vaz, a minister in the previous Labour government.
Detectives found that over a six-year period, almost £500,000 was apparently deposited in the MP’s accounts — in addition to his salary between 1997 and 2001.
The source of the funds has not been declared publicly and the evidence gathered by police may contradict assurances given by Mr Vaz during an investigation into his finances between 2000 and 2001 carried out by parliament.
The Labour MP has denied any wrongdoing and claims that any money passing through his bank accounts came from the proceeds of property deals. The Metropolitan Police is facing calls to hand evidence it collected to the parliamentary commissioner for standards, who can reopen an inquiry into allegations first made a decade ago……………
 
The Daily Telegraph has established that in June 2001, in the wake of the parliamentary inquiry into Mr Vaz, a report on the MP was filed to the National Intelligence Criminal ­Service (NICS). A Scotland Yard document says that a report made to the NICS stated: “News reports have linked Vaz to the Hinduja brothers passport application affair and imply that he may have received payments.
 
“Investigations into credits in 1998 show in excess of £58k was paid into the savings account and over £24k into the current account. These payments contain significant amounts of cash and do not appear to be salary payments. In view of the allegations against Vaz and reports that he did not fully comply with the standards commissioner when questioned during the inquiry, we believe that the level of funds received during 1998 are of a suspicious nature.”


 
The police report stated that another account was used for salary payments. It concluded: “There are numerous unexplained payments into the accounts and large transfers between accounts that require further investigation.”
It is understood that Scotland Yard was unable to establish the source of the funds in question or prove any criminal misconduct. A Whitehall source said that what was uncovered was “a matter for parliament rather than for the police”.
 
“These matters relate to two parliamentary inquiries which began in 1999 and concluded in 2003,” he said. “My finances were discussed by every newspaper in the country for a period of three years and were the subject of extensive examination.
“All ministers have to report all their financial interests to their permanent secretary, which I did. I had no discussions with the then cabinet secretary or the then prime minister about any of these issues. I know of no investigation.”
The MP also added that he “had never banked with HSBC”.
However, in his parliamentary expenses files, copies of which have also been seen by The Daily Telegraph, Mr Vaz refunded money to parliament using a cheque from an account held at First Direct, which is part of HSBC.

 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/9577876/Keith-Vaz-Secret-police-probe-into-Labour-MPs-500000.html

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Thanks aquila, crossed as I was posting it.

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Post by kaz on 04.09.16 11:20

Just another Mandelson , another one who just keeps bouncing back. He should have gone years ago when the cash for passports scandal broke. There's no doubt about it. These people are selected for Parliament solely because they are degenerate sleazebags........................ How else do you explain the preponderance of good for nothings making up our government? Incidentally both
Greville Janner and Vaz have Leicestershire connections.

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Post by Doug D on 04.09.16 11:32

BBC got there eventually:
 
Labour MP Keith Vaz paid for the services of male escorts, the Sunday Mirror has reported.
 
The married father-of-two paid for the men to visit him one evening last month at a flat he owns in London, it claims.
 
Snipped:
 
‘In a statement Mr Vaz said: "It is deeply disturbing that a national newspaper should have paid individuals to have acted in this way.’
 
BBC also quote John Whittingdale, which is a somewhat odd choice imo.
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37269919
 
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Good to see that it must be alright for him to pay them, but not for the papers to pay to catch him out.

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Post by bobbin on 04.09.16 11:56

@Rogue-a-Tory wrote:Just a further example, if it were needed, of poachers being the gamekeepers at Westminster & hiding in plain sight.

They all make me ache.
When I was younger, any woman who would unwisely admit to being able to type would be marched off, without question, to the typing pool, where her career would start and finish.

It was said then, that if a woman got any further in the business world than the typing pool, it would be because she had slept her way to the top.

Now, it seems as clear as day, that if a man (or woman) gets to be a politician, he must first be 'susceptible' to being tempted to the ''forbidden candy on offer", then for MI5 to clandestinely video them in their delight, and thenceforth, the political route to the top, the system and the status quo will be ensured.

Every one will be speaking the same language, within their own circles. nudge nudge wink wink.

It's as if all good souls have been filtered out, or drummed out, of the system at every level until the refined dust that gets to the top is the most corrupt and most duplicitous.

There they are maintained, by their own mutual blackmail, and there they can make their own laws to suit their own ends and keep the corrupt system rolling.

The "Untouchables".

That is, until their main tool, PR and mainstream media started to bite the dust.

Your ordinary common person/good citizen has still managed to hold onto that vestige of 'right versus wrong'.

Numbers matter, and as with Brexit, the shock to the ruling elite, throughout the world, that someone could actually not only say 'No', but also want to say No, has opened the door to a turn-around.

The full focus is on the corruption of politicians, to the extent that the good honest MPs (if there are any) will now be tarred by the same brush of suspicion.

The 'people' have stood up to the corrupt elite, it's now time for the (good honest ?) politicians to start their own cleansing if they wish to out-ride the ridicule to which they have now rightly all become tarred.

In the 'typing pool' days, a politician had status, now, this has been reduced to 'disgust

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Post by sallypelt on 04.09.16 12:41

Oh dear!  SIR Keith Vaz from LEICESTER loses another one of his 9 lives. He can't have many left

They DISGUST me!

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Post by aquila on 04.09.16 13:36

I've been reading the bleeding heart liberals who are saying 'right to a private life'. I can't believe these people who are making excuses for Vaz.

It is in the public interest that this man who portrays himself as a respectable family man with a wife and children, has clandestine sexual encounters with young male prostitutes and is Chairman of the Select Committee which seems to favour his own pursuits in terms of prostitution and drugs. Add to this that Vaz has a very sleazy track record and plays the race card as and when it suits. If he wanted a private life he could have sold washing machines the size of a wall.

Stop making excuses for this oily creature. This man has never said he is gay or bi-sexual, he has only ever portrayed himself as a happily married man with kids. The next thing to expect is he will not only miraculously become a victim of race discrimination but he'll champion the cause of gay men - mark my words - it's already been bandied that he thinks he may have been drugged. Keith Vaz is a proven liar.

He really is a disgusting person. Why stick up for him?

...and it will be very interesting to see how many politicians come to his aid, stand by his side, profess their support - even the odious Diane Abbott (who thrives on the race card) is lost for words.

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Post by sallypelt on 04.09.16 13:45

"Committee members, including Mr Vaz, visited Denmark and Sweden to see differing approaches of dealing with sex workers – male as well as female".
A

Don't you just love these "fact finding trips" abroad? In the light of today's revelations who knows what they were "looking for" spin

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Post by Doug D on 04.09.16 13:57

I’d forgotten about this:
 
Mark Watts
‏‪@MarkWatts_1
Keith Vaz, Lord Janner’s long-time defender, comes a cropper over bid to become next Speaker of House of Commons after Sunday Mirror scoop.
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 ‘Keith Vaz has two ambitions. He is hoping that he will get a knighthood, and he would like to be the next speaker’ (John Bercow to stand down by 2018)
 
http://www.exaronews.com/articles/5723/keith-vaz-prepares-to-campaign-to-be-next-commons-speaker

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Post by aquila on 04.09.16 14:06

@sallypelt wrote:"Committee members, including Mr Vaz, visited Denmark and Sweden to see differing approaches of dealing with sex workers – male as well as female".
A

Don't you just love these "fact finding trips" abroad? In the light of today's revelations who knows what they were "looking for" spin
Remind me who it was (connected to the Madeleine case) who went to Vietnam and asked for a child of six years of age to be brought to them for sexual purpose - purely on a fact finding mission of course.

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Post by willowthewisp on 04.09.16 14:10

@sallypelt wrote:"Committee members, including Mr Vaz, visited Denmark and Sweden to see differing approaches of dealing with sex workers – male as well as female".
A

Don't you just love these "fact finding trips" abroad? In the light of today's revelations who knows what they were "looking for" spin
A new washing detergent unveiled"Poppers for Washers"help to clean the detritus from your washers,alongside laundering,your laundry,Vaz,cleans,Whiter than White!?

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Post by sallypelt on 04.09.16 14:11

@aquila wrote:
@sallypelt wrote:"Committee members, including Mr Vaz, visited Denmark and Sweden to see differing approaches of dealing with sex workers – male as well as female".
A

Don't you just love these "fact finding trips" abroad? In the light of today's revelations who knows what they were "looking for" spin
Remind me who it was (connected to the Madeleine case) who went to Vietnam and asked for a child of six years of age to be brought to them for sexual purpose - purely on a fact finding mission of course.

You will have to remind me, Aquila. I am on the third volume of "fact finders" , and I don't know if I have the right one. Perish the thought of me naming the wrong person drinks

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