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MILITARY TAKEOVER IN TURKEY TONIGHT? (15 July 2016)

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MILITARY TAKEOVER IN TURKEY TONIGHT? (15 July 2016)

Post by Tony Bennett on Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:21 pm

Recep Tayyip Erdogan, President of Turkey, appears to have been ousted tonight - BREAKING:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2016/jul/15/turkey-coup-attempt-military-gunfire-Ankara

If so, it would seem that Boris Johnson's very rude limerick about him won't matter now

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/05/boris-johnson-wins-the-spectators-president-erdogan-offensive-poetry-competition/

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ETA:

BBC News tonight:

Recep Tayyip Erdogan: Turkey's ruthless president

Recep Tayyip Erdogan's AK Party enjoys a fierce and loyal support among Turkey's conservative, Muslim base, while outside the country outrage grows over his silencing of critics, often by force.

Turkish journalists have been investigated and put on trial, foreign journalists have been harassed and deported. Last month, police raided Turkey's biggest newspaper, Zaman. Its staff emerged bloodied and cowed.

Zaman's last independent edition said Turkey's press had seen one of its "darkest days". Its first edition under state control carried unabashedly pro-government articles.

And Mr Erdogan's authoritarian approach is not confined to Turkey's borders. His bodyguards harassed reporters in the US, and a German satirist is under investigation in his home country for offending the Turkish president on TV.

Mr Erdogan, 61, came to power in 2002, a year after the formation of the AK Party. He spent 11 years as Turkey's prime minister before becoming the country's first directly-elected president in August 2014 - a supposedly ceremonial role.

In June 2015 the AK Party suffered a dip in the polls and failed to form a coalition. But a snap election in November, after Turkey's worst suicide bombing prompted Mr Erdogan to escalate his war against the PKK, gave the party a convincing majority.

Erdogan's rise to power


1970s-1980s - Active in Islamist circles, member of Necmettin Erbakan's Welfare Party
1994-1998 - Mayor of Istanbul, until military officers made power grab
1998 - Welfare Party banned, Erdogan jailed for four months for inciting religious hatred
Aug 2001 - Founds Islamist-rooted AKP with ally Abdullah Gul
2002-2003 - AKP wins solid majority in parliamentary election, Erdogan appointed prime minister
Aug 2014 - Becomes president after first-ever direct elections for head of state


Challenging the military


In the decades before the AKP's rise to power, the military had intervened in politics four times to curb Islamist influence.

In 2013 Mr Erdogan triumphed over the military elite when senior officers were among 17 people jailed for life, convicted of plotting to overthrow the AKP in what was known as the "Ergenekon" case.

Hundreds of other officers were also put on trial, along with journalists and secularist politicians, in that investigation and a similar one called the "Operation Sledgehammer" case.

When more than 200 officers were detained in the Sledgehammer investigation in 2011, the heads of Turkey's army, navy and air force resigned in protest.

Critics accused Mr Erdogan of using the judiciary to silence political opponents, and there were many allegations of trumped-up charges.

But his supporters applauded him for taking on previously untouchable establishment figures, who saw themselves as guardians of the state created by Mustafa Kemal Ataturk.


Gezi Park protests

               
Mr Erdogan also unleashed the power of the state to crush mass protests in Istanbul in June 2013, focused on Gezi Park, a green area earmarked for a huge building project.

The protests spread to other cities, swelled by many secularist Turks suspicious of the AKP's Islamist leanings.

A major corruption scandal battered his government in December 2013, involving numerous arrests, including the sons of three cabinet ministers.

Mr Erdogan raged against "plotters" based outside Turkey, condemning supporters of Fethullah Gulen. He also lashed out against social media, vowing to "wipe out" Twitter.

He has a combative charisma that many Turks in the teeming cities and small Anatolian towns love.

But his reputation took a hit in May 2014 when he reacted coldly to a mine disaster in Soma, western Turkey, which killed 301 people.

Muslim revival

Mr Erdogan has denied wanting to impose Islamic values, saying he is committed to secularism. But he supports Turks' right to express their religious beliefs more openly.

That message goes down particularly well in rural and small-town Anatolia - the AKP's traditional heartland. Some supporters nicknamed him "Sultan" - harking back to the Ottoman Empire.

In October 2013 Turkey lifted rules banning women from wearing headscarves in the country's state institutions - with the exception of the judiciary, military and police - ending a decades-old restriction.

Mr Erdogan's wife Emine wears a headscarf to official functions, as does the wife of his long-standing AKP ally Abdullah Gul, who was president before him.

Critics also pointed to Mr Erdogan's failed bid to criminalise adultery, and his attempts to introduce "alcohol-free zones", as evidence of his alleged Islamist intentions.

Palatial ambitions

Mr Erdogan's political opponents saw a lavish new presidential palace as a symbol of his alleged authoritarian tendencies.

Perched on a hill on the outskirts of Ankara, the 1,000-room Ak Saray (White Palace) is bigger than the White House or the Kremlin and ended up costing even more than the original £385m ($615m) price tag.

Mr Erdogan owes much of his political success in the past decade to economic stability, with an average annual growth rate of 4.5%.

Turkey has developed into a manufacturing and export powerhouse. The AKP government kept inflation under control - no mean feat, as there were years in the 1990s when it soared above 100%.

But in 2014 the economy began flagging - growth fell to 2.9% and unemployment rose above 10%.

On the international stage he has bitterly condemned Israel - previously a strong ally of Turkey - over its treatment of the Palestinians. The policy not only galvanised his Islamic base, but also made him a hugely popular leader across the Middle East.

He has backed Syria's opposition in its fight against Bashar al-Assad's government in Damascus.

But his tentative peace overtures to the Kurds in south-eastern Turkey soured when he refused to help Syrian Kurds battling Islamic State militants just across the border.


Islamic education

Born in 1954, Recep Tayyip Erdogan grew up the son of a coastguard, on Turkey's Black Sea coast.

When he was 13, his father decided to move to Istanbul, hoping to give his five children a better upbringing.

As a teenager, the young Erdogan sold lemonade and sesame buns on the streets of Istanbul's rougher districts to earn extra cash.

He attended an Islamic school before obtaining a degree in management from Istanbul's Marmara University - and playing professional football.

While at university, he met Necmettin Erbakan - who went on to become the country's first Islamist prime minister - and entered Turkey's Islamist movement.

In 1994, Mr Erdogan became the mayor of Istanbul. Even his critics admit that he did a good job, making Istanbul cleaner and greener.

But in 1999 he spent four months in jail after a conviction for religious incitement.

He had publicly read a nationalist poem including the lines: "The mosques are our barracks, the domes our helmets, the minarets our bayonets and the faithful our soldiers."

In 2001 Mr Erdogan launched the AKP with allies, having broken away from the Virtue Party, which had been banned.

His rise to power was complete when the AKP won a landslide election victory in 2002 and he became prime minister.

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Post by willowthewisp on Sat Jul 16, 2016 11:50 am

Hi Tony,better not ask our Angela, as she would probably put the Coup De Tate down to Jeremy Corbyn and the Loony Left supporters from the Social side of the Labour Party?

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Re: MILITARY TAKEOVER IN TURKEY TONIGHT? (15 July 2016)

Post by Richard IV on Sat Jul 16, 2016 12:00 pm

I was disappointed this morning when I woke to find the military coup had failed - I was hoping they`d surround the airport and arrest Erdogan as he flew in from holiday and the country would become more secular.  But of course there are broader, complicated reasons for the West to keep him in situ.  Erdogan must be one of the most powerful people in the world at present. No one wants to upset him (except Boris of course !)

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Post by willowthewisp on Sat Jul 16, 2016 12:12 pm

@Richard IV wrote:I was disappointed this morning when I woke to find the military coup had failed - I was hoping they`d surround the airport and arrest Erdogan as he flew in from holiday and the country would become more secular.  But of course there are broader, complicated reasons for the West to keep him in situ.  Erdogan must be one of the most powerful people in the world at present. No one wants to upset him (except Boris of course !)
Bojo now writing a second Poem to Erdogan over the Coup De Tate(failure)Note to PM,This paper is of too high a quality for writing on and it can absorb a lot of Moisture before tearing?

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Post by BlueBag on Sat Jul 16, 2016 2:49 pm

@Richard IV wrote:I was disappointed this morning when I woke to find the military coup had failed - I was hoping they`d surround the airport and arrest Erdogan as he flew in from holiday and the country would become more secular.  But of course there are broader, complicated reasons for the West to keep him in situ.  Erdogan must be one of the most powerful people in the world at present. No one wants to upset him (except Boris of course !)
Dennis Skinner told the truth about Erdogan a few months ago in Parliament,


ISIL and Turkey... the western powers are happy with the relationship judging by David Cameron's complete and utter non-answer.

What a game.

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Re: MILITARY TAKEOVER IN TURKEY TONIGHT? (15 July 2016)

Post by Richard IV on Sat Jul 16, 2016 6:14 pm

I heard an ex-military chap (commander or something else high up) interviewed just now who intimated that Erdogan knew, or allowed, this coup to take place.  It makes him stronger and he can get rid of thousands of his enemies in one swipe.  This person interviewed called him the new Saddam Hussein.

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Post by NickE on Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:37 pm

Could be a false flag,I don´t trust Erdogan.

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Re: MILITARY TAKEOVER IN TURKEY TONIGHT? (15 July 2016)

Post by Richard IV on Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:56 pm

@NickE wrote:Could be a false flag,I don´t trust Erdogan.

I agree, that`s what this fellow seemed to be saying.

I don`t think any world leaders trust him, but he`s got them all under his thumb because he`s in such a powerful position geographically.  All the world leaders are so careful what they say.  He`s trouble.

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Re: MILITARY TAKEOVER IN TURKEY TONIGHT? (15 July 2016)

Post by aquila on Sat Jul 16, 2016 8:24 pm

@BlueBag wrote:
@Richard IV wrote:I was disappointed this morning when I woke to find the military coup had failed - I was hoping they`d surround the airport and arrest Erdogan as he flew in from holiday and the country would become more secular.  But of course there are broader, complicated reasons for the West to keep him in situ.  Erdogan must be one of the most powerful people in the world at present. No one wants to upset him (except Boris of course !)
Dennis Skinner told the truth about Erdogan a few months ago in Parliament,


ISIL and Turkey... the western powers are happy with the relationship judging by David Cameron's complete and utter non-answer.

What a game.
...'let us be clear'....again.

I'm a pleb. I don't understand politics. Years ago British Constitution was a subject taught in schools - that would be before the loony Labour government 'liberated' education for the masses into some sort of mush where your teacher was your peer and you could call him 'Geoff' (that's if you could actually spell 'Geoff').

Now it's soundbites and nonsense PR.

I presume there's no wish for the UK to reinstate British Constitution as a classroom subject. Let's go Euro....except Euro doesn't work because it's a duff economy.

I'm not really amazed there is stuff happening in Turkey - it's to be expected.

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Post by NickE on Sat Jul 16, 2016 9:00 pm

@Richard IV wrote:
@NickE wrote:Could be a false flag,I don´t trust Erdogan.

I agree, that`s what this fellow seemed to be saying.

I don`t think any world leaders trust him, but he`s got them all under his thumb because he`s in such a powerful position geographically.  All the world leaders are so careful what they say.  He`s trouble.

Turkey now blame Gülen and US for the coup attempt.

From Wikileaks:


And this article from 2016-07-13

http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/13/new-ties-emerge-between-clinton-and-mysterious-islamic-cleric/

What a coincidence.

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Post by aquila on Sat Jul 16, 2016 9:19 pm

I'd like someone to explain to plebs like myself what difference a so-called military coup makes in the great scheme of worldwide politics at the moment because I don't understand it that's for certain.

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Re: MILITARY TAKEOVER IN TURKEY TONIGHT? (15 July 2016)

Post by Verdi on Sat Jul 16, 2016 11:11 pm

One thing is for sure, the UK press need to take responsibility and stop inciting hatred, those who can't be bothered to think for themselves read and believe what's reported by the press.  This is how extremists recruit, they prey on the ignorant and vulnerable with propaganda, so easy to brainwash.

We are not living under a  neo-Nazi German regime - you have to ask yourself whose benefit it is to promote an east/west war - because that's exactly where we are heading.  It's not the little people, all they want is to live a decent life in peace and harmony with the world so it must be the power hungry - the world leaders, the little people are but pawns in the play for world supremacy.

Meanwhile, hundreds/thousands/millions of innocent people will lose their lives.

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Re: MILITARY TAKEOVER IN TURKEY TONIGHT? (15 July 2016)

Post by Richard IV on Sun Jul 17, 2016 11:05 am

Part of a piece on the military coup in Turkey by Maureen Freely (translator from Turkish, journalist, novelist and academic) - broadcast this morning.

" ...... The military was pretty much decapitated 7 years ago when Erdogan incarcerated the entire top echelon on treason charges that he later dropped.

How could a handful of officers operating inside the severely compromised force have dared to think a coup possible?

Why, when they went ahead anyway, did they focus on the photogenic or iconic Istanbul Airport, the Bosphorus Bridges, The National Assembly, the Monument of The Republic in Taksim Square?

Why were the troops and tanks they sent there so few in number and so vulnerable to the angry mob?

Why, as the coup was being live streamed, did its leaders fail to show their faces?

Why was no attempt made to capture Erdogan?

How, amid the chaos, did he manage to FaceTime the entire nation before landing at an airport that had stopped all flights?

Why, by then, was there an Imam singing solidarity from every minaret?

Why, after the coup was crushed, did the president urge his people to return to the streets?

One thing we know, that whoever staged this coup played right into Erdogan`s hands.  When he returns to the business of smashing all dissent, he will we fear be calling on all of his foot soldiers of righteousness and urging them ever more forcefully to take matters into their own hands."

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Post by willowthewisp on Sun Jul 17, 2016 1:27 pm

At the present moment we do not know who or what regime were behind the failed"Coup De Tate" and the reason for it?
It gives Erdogan the right to purge on any opponents in his quest to govern Turkey and obliterate the PKK from any rights to live as a part of any Middle East stability?
It plays into Erdogan's hands into the present problem of the Syrian conflict of War and the EU needing to have Turkey on side to stabilise the Immigration of Millions of people caught up in the Middle East, wishing to live in Europe?
Then we have the MSM promoting the USA front runners as a future President,becoming party to possible destabilising Erdogan's Government and interference via the CIA in the failed Coup De Tate?
France offers to extend its' Military Operations in the Syrian War and is Immediately Targeted by Terrorist's in Nice, leading to 84 deaths and hundreds of people injured!
Then we discover that the Waters on the Edge of Syria has uncovered a vast swathe of Gas and Oil fields worth Billions of pounds(Golan Heights spring to mind/Israel) and the past Five Year War brings in a need to have control of the Continents in the Syrian Region?
Al Qeada/ISIS,Daesh, is thought to have been created by the CIA to destabilise Elected Governments from World wide regions,Africa,Middle East,Iraq,Lbya,Yemen,Egypt in a proposed Oil pipeline through these named Countries to the deepest Sea on the East Coast of Africa, where the USA has had it's mucky fingers firmly entrenched for decades, but there has been No attempt to have as what Wesley Clark stated,Seven Wars in Five Years,it just might have taken a little bit longer you understand, especially after the 911 investigation?
Then ask your self, who has deposed all of the Elected Leaders from Iraq,Libya,Egypt,Ukraine using NATO and UN Rules and Regulations to formulate their legitimate removal and wished that the UK Remain in the European Union, Kerghi plan?
There's No Smoke without Fire and look how they treated the Natives of their own Country and they are still doing today to the legions of families in the deep South of the Good Ol USA, in a "Free Society" Yeh?

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Re: MILITARY TAKEOVER IN TURKEY TONIGHT? (15 July 2016)

Post by aquila on Sun Jul 17, 2016 2:36 pm

I'm still none the wiser.

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Post by willowthewisp on Mon Jul 18, 2016 11:10 am

@aquila wrote:I'm still none the wiser.
Hi Aquila,who profits out of Wars and are in a supply Chain that has Board members as clients that are able to facilitate the Arms Industry,ex staff from Government contacts and a Country that is decimated with Gun Murders at the present moment,BLM?
Oh,they state that JFK is a conspiracy theory by Non- believers that a Government doesn't have no involvement in executing these "Theories",when USA congressmen/Woman denied the existence of evidence in a pre Vietnam conflict,Gulf of Tonkin And who was behind that conflict,LBJ, who became USA President on the Assassination of JFK,"It was Oswald wot dunnit"at which point we got Jack to kill the killer?

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