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'IT COULD HAVE BEEN ME' Chilling echoes of Madeleine McCann as mum tells how an intruder tried to snatch her from her cot at Portugal resort

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Post by MayMuse on 23.06.16 2:39

Uworriedmum wrote:quote “When news broke about Maddie we were all in shock. We wanted to offer as much info as we could.We were so surprised no one contacted us back, we only received a call back eight years later.''unquote


For me this is the most telling part of the whole article, and one I know our British investigative journalists will thoroughly explore...
Offer as much information as they could, who did they contact ? 

In 2007, when the family heard of the devastating news of Madeline McCann, they got in touch with investigators to offer up information in case there was a link with their experience.
Incredibly, despite contacting them twice they only got a call back eight years later.


Now which "investigators" would that be? 


Dave Edgar & co?
The PJ?
Or UK police?


Big difference in saying investigators to the police don't ya think? Leaves something to the imagination big grin


Not sure whether I believe this story, has a certain pinky tone to it spin but if true and they contacted the McCann investigators we shouldn't be surprised no one got back to them for eight long years. 
Expect though, that this was a nice little earner:nah:
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Post by sharonl on 23.06.16 6:48

@worriedmum wrote:quote “When news broke about Maddie we were all in shock. We wanted to offer as much info as we could.We were so surprised no one contacted us back, we only received a call back eight years later.''unquote


For me this is the most telling part of the whole article, and one I know our British investigative journalists will thoroughly explore...

Why on earth would anyone be interested in something that happened 13 years earlier?  If it did happen.

That lookalike picture that they used is a give away.  Does the abductor walk around for 13 years looking for a child that resembles an image that he carries around? 

I wonder how much the gutter press pay for these little stories. We know that this goes on because Antonio Jiminez Razo was caught doing this in Morocco.

It's all rubbish

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Post by Rogue-a-Tory on 23.06.16 10:02

If only the Shuttleworths from, errrr, nowhere had got in touch sooner.

Or even reported their story prior to 2007 the McCanns could have taken appropriate action thereby avoiding the disappearance abduction of the child Madeleine. Maybe Kate & Gerry should sue the Shuttleworths, the dereliction of their duty clearly led to the abduction and hampered the search.

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Post by jeanmonroe on 23.06.16 11:45

Does anyone 'know'?

Did the McCan'ts 're-kindle' their friendship, after Sept 2007, back in the UK, with their 'warm, funny, instantly likeable, friend' CF after they 'did a runner' back to the UK, after being made 'arguido/arguida'?

The same CF that 'that cheered us up and kept us smiling'?

I would find it 'odd', personally, if they didn't.

Does Lady Freud ever 'mention' that CF had the McCan'ts erm, 'visit'him, after their 'return' to UK, in 2007, until his demise in 2009?

Did the McCan'ts 'attend' the funeral of their 'warm, funny, friend' in April 2009?

We 'know' there was still a 'connection' to the Freud 'family', in 2008/9, because MF gave C Mitchell (McCan'ts 'spokesman') 'a job'.

('WHY', MF did 'that', is anybody's 'guess')

Did MF 'invite' K£GM to his father's funeral, being that they were good 'friends' with his father?

I'm 'sure' Clammy 'would have' invited them to 'visit' him in the UK, (why 'wouldn't' he?) just to 'cheer them up', with his lugubrious 'wit'

There are 'more' questions, than answers, with the McCan'ts 'friendship' with CF, imo.

Perhaps Lady Freud will 'enlighten' us!

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Post by sharonl on 23.06.16 12:01

@Rogue-a-Tory wrote:If only the Shuttleworths from, errrr, nowhere had got in touch sooner.

Or even reported their story prior to 2007 the McCanns could have taken appropriate action thereby avoiding the disappearance abduction of the child Madeleine. Maybe Kate & Gerry should sue the Shuttleworths, the dereliction of their duty clearly led to the abduction and hampered the search.

From Bury, I think, Smethurst and Alvin Shuttleworth land but I would have to check that.

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Post by MayMuse on 23.06.16 12:56

@sharonl wrote:
@worriedmum wrote:quote “When news broke about Maddie we were all in shock. We wanted to offer as much info as we could.We were so surprised no one contacted us back, we only received a call back eight years later.''unquote


For me this is the most telling part of the whole article, and one I know our British investigative journalists will thoroughly explore...

Why on earth would anyone be interested in something that happened 13 years earlier?  If it did happen.

That lookalike picture that they used is a give away.  Does the abductor walk around for 13 years looking for a child that resembles an image that he carries around? 

I wonder how much the gutter press pay for these little stories. We know that this goes on because Antonio Jiminez Razo was caught doing this in Morocco.

It's all rubbish
Wasn't it 22 years earlier?

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Post by Verdi on 23.06.16 13:21

@petunia wrote:OMG that's dreadful,does an intruder/ potential abductor have time to watch over their victim? or do they just snatch them and run? them there potential abductors have have missed there vocation in life cos they run away that fast that not one of these parents have ever been able to catch them,they would be awash with gold medals if they had competed in the olympics and 2007 she would of been just 16 years old what a load of POPPYCOCK CLARENCE.
The short answer to that is YES - it follows thus..

.... he paused briefly over Madeleine’s bed and thought to himself how very lucky he was to have such a beautiful child....

He should know, he was there  smilie !

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Post by pennylane on 23.06.16 13:23

I see far more "chilling echos" of the McCann case, when I see stories of parents around the world who've lied to the police about their child's sad fate!

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Post by sar on 23.06.16 13:26

@Verdi wrote:
@petunia wrote:OMG that's dreadful,does an intruder/ potential abductor have time to watch over their victim? or do they just snatch them and run? them there potential abductors have have missed there vocation in life cos they run away that fast that not one of these parents have ever been able to catch them,they would be awash with gold medals if they had competed in the olympics and 2007 she would of been just 16 years old what a load of POPPYCOCK CLARENCE.
The short answer to that is YES - it follows thus..

.... he paused briefly over Madeleine’s bed and thought to himself how very lucky he was to have such a beautiful child....

He should know, he was there  smilie !
....that genuinely scares me

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Post by jeanmonroe on 23.06.16 13:50

OMG! I've just 'remembered' something.

50 YEARS ago, when i was in America, a 'man' 'looked at me, all 'funny' like'! ('Massive perms' WERE all the 'rage' then, so there!)

"IT 'COULD' OF BEEN ME" that was 'NEARLY' abducted!

Quick!, what's the Scum's phone number?????

Gotta phone 'em, before me dementia 'kicks in' again!

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Post by Verdi on 23.06.16 13:52

@sar wrote:
@Verdi wrote:
@petunia wrote:OMG that's dreadful,does an intruder/ potential abductor have time to watch over their victim? or do they just snatch them and run? them there potential abductors have have missed there vocation in life cos they run away that fast that not one of these parents have ever been able to catch them,they would be awash with gold medals if they had competed in the olympics and 2007 she would of been just 16 years old what a load of POPPYCOCK CLARENCE.
The short answer to that is YES - it follows thus..

.... he paused briefly over Madeleine’s bed and thought to himself how very lucky he was to have such a beautiful child....

He should know, he was there  smilie !
....that genuinely scares me
Me too - little comments like that can be so revealing.  Freudian slip if I may be topical.

Talking of being duped, I was recently reminded of this interview from 25th May 2007, hosted by Ian Woods of Sky, only three weeks after their daughters disappearance.  When you've got a few minutes to spare watch it again - totally devoid of emotion, both of them.  Gerry McCann even splutters on his own words when he tells the nation that they of course have grieved - three weeks later and they have grieved? 

This was in the very early days when they were but debutantes in the world of showbiz, I guess they hadn't perfected their act.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GshQL5BNp5M

Shocking how they could be so lacking in emotion.

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Post by jeanmonroe on 23.06.16 13:56



Strangely, the McCan'ts have NEVER 'shown' ONE, of the 'many thousands' of 'messages' they say they 'got' from people, that have said 'oh that, we've done the same'**!

(**"Left our 3 kids, all under 4 years of age, alone, in an diliberately, consciously, left unlocked apartment, out of our sight, whilst we 'dined' with our 'friends'")

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Post by pennylane on 23.06.16 13:59

@jeanmonroe wrote:OMG! I've just 'remembered' something.

50 YEARS ago, when i was in America, a 'man' 'looked at me, all 'funny' like'!

"IT 'COULD' OF BEEN ME" that was 'NEARLY' abducted!

Quick, what's the Scum's phone number?????

omg, the parallels are eerily similar to the McCann case!  

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Post by Verdi on 23.06.16 14:02

@jeanmonroe wrote:OMG! I've just 'remembered' something.

50 YEARS ago, when i was in America, a 'man' 'looked at me, all 'funny' like'!

"IT 'COULD' OF BEEN ME" that was 'NEARLY' abducted!

Quick, what's the Scum's phone number?????
It's utterly ridiculous - nine years down the line and suddenly up pops a convenient dead paedophile and an attempted abduction from the year 39BC.

Operation Grange must be really struggling to find a way out.  Mind you, this could be the cunning plan - too much confusion hampering a live investigation.


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Post by jeanmonroe on 23.06.16 14:12

"It's utterly ridiculous"
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'Ludicrous', surely?

or even 'ridiculously ludicrous'?

Sounds like a 'citizen's name' from ancient Rome, don't it?

Didn't KM 'say' she 'thought' she 'heard' the 'abductor' 'speaking LATIN'? winkwink

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Post by sar on 23.06.16 14:39

@Verdi wrote:
@sar wrote:
@Verdi wrote:
@petunia wrote:OMG that's dreadful,does an intruder/ potential abductor have time to watch over their victim? or do they just snatch them and run? them there potential abductors have have missed there vocation in life cos they run away that fast that not one of these parents have ever been able to catch them,they would be awash with gold medals if they had competed in the olympics and 2007 she would of been just 16 years old what a load of POPPYCOCK CLARENCE.
The short answer to that is YES - it follows thus..

.... he paused briefly over Madeleine’s bed and thought to himself how very lucky he was to have such a beautiful child....

He should know, he was there  smilie !
....that genuinely scares me
Me too - little comments like that can be so revealing.  Freudian slip if I may be topical.

Talking of being duped, I was recently reminded of this interview from 25th May 2007, hosted by Ian Woods of Sky, only three weeks after their daughters disappearance.  When you've got a few minutes to spare watch it again - totally devoid of emotion, both of them.  Gerry McCann even splutters on his own words when he tells the nation that they of course have grieved - three weeks later and they have grieved? 

This was in the very early days when they were but debutantes in the world of showbiz, I guess they hadn't perfected their act.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GshQL5BNp5M

Shocking how they could be so lacking in emotion.
"At the end of that first week...

we felt…completely  devoid of emotion
 
the analogy I like to use is a bit like when we were students,  and you’d got to your over draught limit and you’d gone beyond it and there was just nothing left in the tank"

I did that, term one, year one of university, had to borrow £30 off my mate to get home for Christmas!  Cripes!  What a pickle I got me' self into!!!  Got a right telling off when I got home.  After a bit of a palava and a word with my Mum went straight back and finished it, no more mess in'.  Phew what a relief!!  Imagine how you'd feel coming back from your hols without a child!!! [ insert shocked face emoticon]

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Post by pennylane on 23.06.16 15:01

@sar wrote:
@Verdi wrote:
@sar wrote:
@Verdi wrote:
@petunia wrote:OMG that's dreadful,does an intruder/ potential abductor have time to watch over their victim? or do they just snatch them and run? them there potential abductors have have missed there vocation in life cos they run away that fast that not one of these parents have ever been able to catch them,they would be awash with gold medals if they had competed in the olympics and 2007 she would of been just 16 years old what a load of POPPYCOCK CLARENCE.
The short answer to that is YES - it follows thus..

.... he paused briefly over Madeleine’s bed and thought to himself how very lucky he was to have such a beautiful child....

He should know, he was there  smilie !
....that genuinely scares me
Me too - little comments like that can be so revealing.  Freudian slip if I may be topical.

Talking of being duped, I was recently reminded of this interview from 25th May 2007, hosted by Ian Woods of Sky, only three weeks after their daughters disappearance.  When you've got a few minutes to spare watch it again - totally devoid of emotion, both of them.  Gerry McCann even splutters on his own words when he tells the nation that they of course have grieved - three weeks later and they have grieved? 

This was in the very early days when they were but debutantes in the world of showbiz, I guess they hadn't perfected their act.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GshQL5BNp5M

Shocking how they could be so lacking in emotion.
"At the end of that first week...

we felt…completely  devoid of emotion
 
the analogy I like to use is a bit like when we were students,  and you’d got to your over draught limit and you’d gone beyond it and there was just nothing left in the tank"

I did that, term one, year one of university, had to borrow £30 off my mate to get home for Christmas!  Cripes!  What a pickle I got me' self into!!!  Got a right telling off when I got home.  After a bit of a palava and a word with my Mum went straight back and finished it, no more mess in'.  Phew what a relief!!  Imagine how you'd feel coming back from your hols without a child!!! [ insert shocked face emoticon]

But we can rest assured "she'll be giving them her tuppence worth"

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Post by plebgate on 23.06.16 15:02

I would swear we've had this story before or one similar.  How old would the three burglars have been 20 years ago?
Oh and there was no sign of a break in so someone must have had a key.  Yeah, heard it all before.

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Post by willowthewisp on 23.06.16 15:34

@plebgate wrote:I would swear we've had this story before or one similar.  How old would the three burglars have been 20 years ago?
Oh and there was no sign of a break in so someone must have had a key.  Yeah, heard it all before.
It was the Burglars son from the non abducted occasion that Dunnit?

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Post by pennylane on 23.06.16 15:37

The real 'McCann parallel stories' are those of neglected toddlers coming to harm because their woeful parents are at the local bar getting drunk!

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Post by Verdi on 23.06.16 16:26

@jeanmonroe wrote:

Strangely, the McCan'ts have NEVER 'shown' ONE, of the 'many thousands' of 'messages' they say they 'got' from people, that have said 'oh that, we've done the same'**!

(**"Left our 3 kids, all under 4 years of age, alone, in an diliberately, consciously, left unlocked apartment, out of our sight, whilst we 'dined' with our 'friends'")
Thankee howdy !

How I wonder were these many thousand messages delivered - brown envelope marked for the attention of Kate and Gerry, Rothley?  What sort of thing did they say - 'don't worry mate I would have done the same thing.  You were just unlucky'.  An anonymous well wisher xxx  ?

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Post by worriedmum on 23.06.16 17:05

''the analogy I like to use is a bit like when we were students,  and you’d got to your over draught limit and you’d gone beyond it and there was just nothing left in the tank"


Oh my goodness. Just think how devastating it must have been to have had his WALLET stolen, then..

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Post by Verdi on 23.06.16 21:24

@worriedmum wrote:''the analogy I like to use is a bit like when we were students,  and you’d got to your over draught limit and you’d gone beyond it and there was just nothing left in the tank"


Oh my goodness. Just think how devastating it must have been to have had his WALLET stolen, then..

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Allow me to assist..



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Post by sharonl on 23.06.16 23:58

Poor Nicole - she must have kept this to herself for 22 years, even people who know her on Facebook had no idea that this had happened. 

Nicoles' response on FB

"I dont think many did as we didn't discuss it for years until the Maddie thing. Then sort of just left it be and thanked our lucky stars xx"


They never discussed it?  Not even with friends?  Not even in May 2007?  Why the big secret?.. 

C'mon Nicole - Did this REALLY happen 22 years ago, or is it just another Maddie story made up and sold to the media?  And, if it did happen 45 minutes away from PDL and 13 years earlier, why on earth would it be linked to the Maddie McCann case?

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Post by Verdi on 24.06.16 1:28

@sharonl wrote:Poor Nicole - she must have kept this to herself for 22 years, even people who know her on Facebook had no idea that this had happened. 

Nicoles' response on FB

"I dont think many did as we didn't discuss it for years until the Maddie thing. Then sort of just left it be and thanked our lucky stars xx"


They never discussed it?  Not even with friends?  Not even in May 2007?  Why the big secret?.. 

C'mon Nicole - Did this REALLY happen 22 years ago, or is it just another Maddie story made up and sold to the media?  And, if it did happen 45 minutes away from PDL and 13 years earlier, why on earth would it be linked to the Maddie McCann case?
And why now? 

If Operation Grange take this latest 'revelation moment' seriously, as one might expect they should, they will be looking for an e-fit..


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