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Post by NickE on 19.06.16 21:40

[size=48]E-mails sent to Kate and Gerry McCann by paedophile Clement Freud to be handed to inquiry[/size]

BOMBSHELL emails between paedo politician Sir Clement Freud and the McCanns will be investigated as part of a child sex abuse probe.

By Craig Saunders / Published 19th June 2016


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PROBE: Correspondence between Sir Clement Freud and the McCanns will be investigated
Correspondence between the late Liberal MP and the parents of missing Madeleine will be submitted to an inquiry looking into historic abuse allegations.

It comes after revelations he befriended the pair after their daughter was snatched in Praia da Luz in 2007.

Freud has been accused of being a prominent child abuser with allegations he groomed and raped young girls.

GETTY

His widow Lady Freud issued a “profound” apology when two women accused him of sex abuse after a TV documentary was shown this month.

The former BBC broadcaster, who died in 2009, invited Kate and Gerry McCanns to his £1million Portuguese holiday home after Maddie was taken.

Kate admitted they became close friends and the visit “cheered us up”.

They kept in contact after returning to England.

A source close to the family said: “They took it at face value. They did not see anything sinister in his behaviour.”

The messages may be included in the Goddard inquiry into how rife child sex abuse was in public bodies, including the BBC and the government.



http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/524072/Paedo-Sir-Clement-Freud-link-Maddie-McCann-Kate-Gerry-emails

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Re: "E-mails between paedo politician Sir Clement Freud and the McCanns will be investigated as part of a child sex abuse probe"

Post by notlongnow on 19.06.16 22:20

How does he know they are bombshell.
They may of deleted them.

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Post by jeanmonroe on 19.06.16 22:56

@notlongnow wrote:How does he know they are bombshell.
They may of deleted them.

Yeah right!

Like the McCan'ts WOULD 'delete' anything!

Oh, hang on...........

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Post by pennylane on 19.06.16 23:41

@jeanmonroe wrote:
@notlongnow wrote:How does he know they are bombshell.
They may of deleted them.

Yeah right!

Like the McCan'ts WOULD 'delete' anything!

Oh, hang on...........


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Re: "E-mails between paedo politician Sir Clement Freud and the McCanns will be investigated as part of a child sex abuse probe"

Post by Verdi on 20.06.16 1:20

There it be in those two very short sentences..

It comes after revelations he befriended the pair after their daughter was snatched in Praia da Luz in 2007.


Freud has been accused of being a prominent child abuser with allegations he groomed and raped young girls.


1.  Their daughter was not snatched.         

2.  Accused of being a prominent 'child abuser' who 'groomed and raped young girls'?

Now tell me this isn't media hype at the hands of the McCann PR machine.

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Post by Verdi on 20.06.16 1:30

This case becomes more and more ridiculous as time progresses.  What absolute nonsense this latest 'weekend' report is.  If, and that's a very big if, there was something sinister going on between Freud and the McCanns relative to their missing child - they're hardly likely to leave an electronic or paper trail are they?

What about the dogs!!!  They will never go away no matter how hard the PR machine tries to by-pass them.

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Post by joyce1938 on 20.06.16 8:27

I Agree Verdi,this seems to be gathering pace ,so would it not make a lot of what we know ,no longer revelent? Yes DOGS and various things ,where would they fit ,in all this new stuff.? not at all I would think .joyce1938.

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Post by plebgate on 20.06.16 8:44

IMO if there were any untoward email messages that could prove anything at all they would never have been mentioned in The Book.

If CF family thought that there were emails which could incriminate CF in any way I believe they would have got rid of them straight away or even got rid of the computer. 

Supposedly makes a good headline though.  

Without DNA evidence CF cannot be linked to Maddie's disappearance.

So that's "Voddie Man" out of the frame too surely?

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Post by pennylane on 20.06.16 9:45

One senses a desperate attempt to spin like mad for fear the Gaspar statements may take prominence.

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Post by Doug D on 20.06.16 10:11

What e-mails?
 
Headline:
 
‘BOMBSHELL emails between paedo politician Sir Clement Freud and the McCanns’
 
becomes:
 
‘Correspondence between….’
 
Shy Keenan tweeted earlier over the weekend that the CSA enquiry would be made aware of certain reports this week (I took it to mean about CF), but she would not comment further, but this tweet has now vanished.
   
I suspect this is where the Star story has come from.

eta

Same story running in the Mirror now, but credited to the Star.
 
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/emails-between-paedophile-clement-freud-8234088

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Post by jeanmonroe on 20.06.16 13:04

Kate has said: "My reason for writing is simple – to give AN account of the truth."

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Post by pennylane on 20.06.16 13:28

@jeanmonroe wrote:Kate has said: "My reason for writing is simple – to give AN account of the truth."
 
The McCanns have certainly given numerous and very varied accounts of the alleged truth!

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Post by jeanmonroe on 20.06.16 13:46

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/emails-between-paedophile-clement-freud-8234088

Now Vicky Hayes, 64, says she she reported her concerns to police two years after reading Kate McCann's book Madeleine.
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TWO YEARS?, 2 EFFING YEARS!................AFTER....... 'reading' exhibit KM1.

So, NOT 'that' CONCERNED then!

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Post by pennylane on 20.06.16 13:50

@jeanmonroe wrote:http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/emails-between-paedophile-clement-freud-8234088

Now Vicky Hayes, 64, says she she reported her concerns to police two years after reading Kate McCann's book Madeleine.
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TWO YEARS?, 2 EFFING YEARS!................AFTER....... 'reading' exhibit KM1.

So, NOT 'that' CONCERNED!

You couldn't make it up, could you!

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Post by jeanmonroe on 20.06.16 14:00

So WHAT is 'this' paedo/McCan'ts 'episode' REALLY all 'about'?

'Look here, NOT THERE'?

Maybe the PSC has 'informed' them 'privately' that the PSC 'will NOT' be 'entertaining' their civil appeal against GA and they, and the twins, are totally, solely 'liable' for ALL 'costs' for all 3 of their LOST 'appeals'!

Who knows?...................NOT me!

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Post by jeanmonroe on 20.06.16 14:09

Mirror 'article'

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/emails-between-paedophile-clement-freud-8234088

Emails between 'paedophile' Clement Freud and Madeleine McCann's parents to be probed for child sex abuse inquiry
00:38, 20 Jun 2016
Updated 08:08, 20 Jun 2016
BySam Webb

The ex-MP and TV and radio star had a villa in the resort Madeleine McCann vanished from and befriended her parents in the weeks after she went missing
Emails between 'predatory paedophile' Sir Clement Freud and Madeleine McCann's parents are set to be probed as part of a child sex abuse inquiry.
Messages exchanged between the late MP and the parents of missing Madeleine will be submitted to an inquiry into historic abuse allegations, according to The Star.
The revelation comes after news the ex-MP and TV and radio star had a villa in the resort Madeleine McCann vanished from and befriended her parents Kate and Gerry in the weeks after she went missing.
A woman who says she was a victim of Freud claims she told police about his links to the family, but nothing was done.
Now Vicky Hayes, 64, says she she reported her concerns to police two years after reading Kate McCann's book Madeleine.
Vicky had found that Freud appeared to be a private person who did not enjoy the media spotlight and found the idea of him entertaining the McCanns, after Madeline disappeared, odd.
She told ITV News: "I read Kate McCann's book and was immediately upset and anxious that Clement Freud had invited the McCanns to his home.
"He was a private man, not the type to suddenly befriend a couple who had intense media attention. It really jarred with me, left me feeling very uneasy."
"He had a home in Praia de Luz, but why invite them and cook for them?" Ms Hayes continued.
"Nobody else would have thought Freud capable of abuse and rape but he did it to me.
"I'm angry police were dismissive of my information.
"My son wrote to the police with my account and concerns over Freud in connection to the McCanns, but he never got any response.
"I have a six year old granddaughter, a young girl like Madeline. If you have a something you feel needs to be looked at you have to tell someone. That's what I did.
"That's why I contacted the police, when I read Kate McCann’s account, I wanted the detectives to know what I knew about Clement Freud.
"My purpose was for officers to investigate why he invited (them)."
"It needs investigating if Freud had any involvement or knew anything," she added.
"He was capable of anything."
The Metropolitan Police Service has been contacted for a comment.
Hayes, 64, grew up in Lincoln. In the mid 1960’s, Clement Freud visited her father’s seafood restaurant there, known as Syd’s, to try the food.
She said: "Daddy's fish restaurant was already quite well known so Clay, as we knew him, came to try his cooking when he was in Lincolnshire for horse racing. That's when I met him.
"He immediately took a shine to me, I was 14 at the time. I was pretty and after that on his visits I would wait on.”
She claims he raped her when she was 17 after taking her to the horse races.
The McCanns are said to be “horrified” by the claims that Freud was a paedophile.
They were invited to his house twice after Madeleine vanished and kept in contact by phone and email.
Writing about their first meeting - two months after Madeleine vanished - Kate McCann wrote in her book: "I’m usually very intimidated by people with brains the size of planets but Clement was incredibly warm, funny and instantly likeable.”
He had cooked a watercress and egg salad followed by a chicken and mushroom risotto which was “the best risotto we’ve ever tasted before or since”.
Kate and Gerry were two months into the search for their daughter when they received the letter inviting them for the meal at his holiday home in Praia da Luz, a short drive from the Ocean Club, where Madeleine went missing on May 3, 2007.
He invited them for dinner again in September that year but they cancelled because they had been named arguidos in the investigation.

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Post by petunia on 20.06.16 14:25

Emails between 'predatory paedophile' Sir Clement Freud and Madeleine McCann's parents are set to be probed as part of a child sex abuse inquiry.
Messages exchanged between the late MP and the parents of missing Madeleine will be submitted to an inquiry into historic abuse allegations, according to The Star.


I take it from reading this bit that the E-mails still  exist and will be handed over to the inquiry? who i wonder will hand them over?will it be the McCanns,the CF Family or?

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Post by haroldd2 on 20.06.16 15:25

@NickE wrote:[size=48]E-mails sent to Kate and Gerry McCann by paedophile Clement Freud to be handed to inquiry[/size]

BOMBSHELL emails between paedo politician Sir Clement Freud and the McCanns will be investigated as part of a child sex abuse probe.

By Craig Saunders / Published 19th June 2016
It's good that the emails will be investigated, and to be thorough the police will have to require access to computers used by both parties, as well as to logs kept by internet service companies, rather than simply asking the McCanns or the Freud family to hand over some files on a disc or flash drive.

But ... emails? Is the emphasis meant to be misleading? If Freud was criminally involved in any matter concerning Madeleine McCann, there probably won't be direct evidence in emails between him and the McCanns, although of course there may be, and there may also be some leads.

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Post by jeanmonroe on 20.06.16 15:35

@petunia wrote:Emails between 'predatory paedophile' Sir Clement Freud and Madeleine McCann's parents are set to be probed as part of a child sex abuse inquiry.
Messages exchanged between the late MP and the parents of missing Madeleine will be submitted to an inquiry into historic abuse allegations, according to The Star.


I take it from reading this bit that the E-mails still  exist and will be handed over to the inquiry? who i wonder will hand them over?will it be the McCanns,the CF Family or?

OR............. MARTIN BR*NT???????????

'Bound' to have a sneaky 83 page 'dossier', ain't he?

eta: I'd 'like' MB to 'doorstep' M Freud and 'ask' him, what he 'knows' about all 'this'!

(and then, i woke up!)

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Post by MayMuse on 20.06.16 15:42

He invited them for dinner again in September that year but they cancelled because they had been named arguidos in the investigation.


???


The calls were very early Sept (similar dates as in the July)
They were not made arguido's until the 7th September. 
We hear of calls but when was the actual dates of the "visits"? 
The first one we are led to believe that it was a family affair with even the twins attending along with a couple,of family members, total of 7 people. 




So, CF cooked for them all? 
No mention of his wife or anyone else, only CF entertaining a bunch of holiday makers whose 3 year old child had suddenly "disappeared"! 
Why would CF have any interest in their "feelings" due to "media intrusion" (as per his letter to them) and not because of their missing daughter? 


We are told that email exchanges continued when they returned to the UK. These apparently are to be investigated under the child abuse inquiry. If they exist? Would this mean that the police will need to confiscate the McCanns computers and thoroughly "check" all data as I find it difficult to believe that these "emails" will be sitting in a saved box since 2007?


Being as the McCanns were held in "suspicion" by the PJ, would it be fair to say that their "movements" whilst in Portugal were monitored ? 
If so, I wonder what the PJ & Amaral think of the latest developments? 


More to this than meets the eye in my opinion and given the Freud/Murdoch connection, the "media" (again) are "spinning"  full speed like a roller-coaster with loose wheels heading for a collision! 




Edit... When exactly were these meetings, Kate referenced in her book that CF commented on the "dogs" giving evidence as in barking in answer? 
If they did not visit in the September due to them cancelling because of them being made arguido's when did this conversation take place as the dogs were in early August (end of July? Unable to remember exactly so someone maybe able to help) So if that first meeting as described in such detail by Kate in the book,  was in the July how on earth did CF know about the dogs???? 


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Post by jeanmonroe on 20.06.16 15:52

Justice Lowell Goddard: 'Is that the Freud/McCan'ts emails?'

'Yes M'Lady'

'Put them in the 'nutters/haters' box please'

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Post by Doug D on 20.06.16 16:17

MayMuse:
 
‘When exactly were these meetings, Kate referenced in her book that CF commented on the "dogs" giving evidence as in barking in answer?’
 
3rd September according to the bewk:
 
They cancelled dinner, but he got them to go round for drinks when he met them in his nightshirt.
 
‘At 9.50pm, I rang Clement. ‘Come on round,’ he said. ‘It’ll be nice to see you. But you’ll have to forgive my night-time attire.’
We found Clement watching a cookery programme, dressed, as promised, in his nightshirt. It was so ordinary and comforting, a bit like going to see your grandad after a horrible day at school. He gave me one of his looks and a giant glass of brandy, and managed to get a smile out of me with his greeting: ‘So, Kate, which of the devout Catholic, alcoholic, depressed, nymphomaniac parts is correct?’
His response to our catalogue of horrors was merely to raise an eyebrow. Clement had this way of making everything seem a little less terrible. When he heard about the dogs, he remarked laconically, ‘So what are they going to do? Put them on the stand? One bark for yes, two for no?’ He was right, of course; it was ridiculous.
A couple of hours later, fortified by our brandies (it was my first-ever taste of the stuff), some useful snippets of advice and several amusing anecdotes, we left our friend feeling quite a bit better than we had when we’d arrived.
The shock of that day, and of what we were now facing, on top of the trauma of Madeleine’s absence, never left us for a second, but it was interludes like this that gave us just enough strength to carry on.’

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Post by MayMuse on 20.06.16 16:20

@DougD


Yes, although mirror article states they cancelled!

And no firm dates of those "visits" 

Or how many? 

And arguido status was 7th September, that is when they made their statements? 

Confusion is good!!!

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Post by Nina on 20.06.16 20:05

@Doug D wrote:MayMuse:
 
‘When exactly were these meetings, Kate referenced in her book that CF commented on the "dogs" giving evidence as in barking in answer?’
 
3rd September according to the bewk:
 
They cancelled dinner, but he got them to go round for drinks when he met them in his nightshirt.
 
‘At 9.50pm, I rang Clement. ‘Come on round,’ he said. ‘It’ll be nice to see you. But you’ll have to forgive my night-time attire.’
We found Clement watching a cookery programme, dressed, as promised, in his nightshirt. It was so ordinary and comforting, a bit like going to see your grandad after a horrible day at school. He gave me one of his looks and a giant glass of brandy, and managed to get a smile out of me with his greeting: ‘So, Kate, which of the devout Catholic, alcoholic, depressed, nymphomaniac parts is correct?’
His response to our catalogue of horrors was merely to raise an eyebrow. Clement had this way of making everything seem a little less terrible. When he heard about the dogs, he remarked laconically, ‘So what are they going to do? Put them on the stand? One bark for yes, two for no?’ He was right, of course; it was ridiculous.
A couple of hours later, fortified by our brandies (it was my first-ever taste of the stuff), some useful snippets of advice and several amusing anecdotes, we left our friend feeling quite a bit better than we had when we’d arrived.
The shock of that day, and of what we were now facing, on top of the trauma of Madeleine’s absence, never left us for a second, but it was interludes like this that gave us just enough strength to carry on.’
Snipped.................

A couple of hours later, fortified by our brandies (it was my first-ever taste of the stuff),


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