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THE JO COX MURDER & THE EU REFERENDUM

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Re: THE JO COX MURDER & THE EU REFERENDUM

Post by BlueBag on Fri Oct 07, 2016 6:22 am

Labour just made Diane Abbott Shadow Home Secretary.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/718401/Labour-reshuffle-Jeremy-Corbyn-sacks-chief-whip-Rosie-Winterton-Nick-Brown


One anonymous Labour MP commented: "Diane Abbott is now in charge of our response to security, terror and immigration. Do they want anyone to vote for us again?"


I wonder where she stood on the EU?

Oh that's right... she was a remainer.

I wonder where she stands on immigration?

Oh that's right, she demanded MORE.

Corbyn sadly just signed the Labour death warrant.

When are we going to get a real political movement based on what ordinary British people want?

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Re: THE JO COX MURDER & THE EU REFERENDUM

Post by Roxyroo on Fri Oct 07, 2016 9:49 am

@willowthewisp wrote:
@BlueBag wrote:That is not a contest!

That will be a landslide.
It is more or less than five months since Jo Cox's Death in June 2016.
So how come the Murder Trial is being held in October 2016 and coincides with the election process October 20 2016,when it was scheduled for early November 14 2016,was it to mark a special occasion or was that another famous coincidence to bring the trial forward Four weeks early,CPS have all the evidence for trial within a short space of time?

Enough time to either get the tattoos on or get them removed from Tommy Mairs arms?

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Jo Cox Murder and EU Referendum

Post by willowthewisp on Mon Oct 10, 2016 12:04 pm

@Roxyroo wrote:
@willowthewisp wrote:
@BlueBag wrote:That is not a contest!

That will be a landslide.
It is more or less than five months since Jo Cox's Death in June 2016.
So how come the Murder Trial is being held in October 2016 and coincides with the election process October 20 2016,when it was scheduled for early November 14 2016,was it to mark a special occasion or was that another famous coincidence to bring the trial forward Four weeks early,CPS have all the evidence for trial within a short space of time?

Enough time to either get the tattoos on or get them removed from Tommy Mairs arms?
Hi Roxyroo,Do you mean the"Tattoos"on the person seen in pictures of the Police arrest,with the Bandaged Head,who seems to be of a Heavier stature,than the documented pictures of Mr Mair taken at the work project from a few years ago,was this Tommy Mair being arrested?

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Re: THE JO COX MURDER & THE EU REFERENDUM

Post by BlueBag on Mon Oct 10, 2016 1:01 pm

The man arrested WAS Tommy Mair wearing a black cap.

However, the man who did the stabbing was described as wearing a dirty WHITE cap and a jacket.

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Re: THE JO COX MURDER & THE EU REFERENDUM

Post by Roxyroo on Mon Oct 10, 2016 8:20 pm

Hi WtW and BlueBag, I can't actually remember which way round it was! My bad! Wasn't there a thread on this forum about it already? I.m just going to have a look

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Re;Jo Cox Murder Trial.

Post by willowthewisp on Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:29 pm

I know the Trial is ongoing at the present moment and not wishing to pre-judge the events of the Trail,but according to "Official Photographs released",The gun had a Black tape attached to the stock of the Gun in the Holdall,yet the Gun shown in court to the Jury is Minus the Tape?
CCTV picture of Thomas Mair,(One,but with No time slot present or date)shows a rather slim man wearing some type of Sunglasses underneath a"White Baseball cap",yet pictures of Thomas Mair being arrested by Police Officers,available on page five of this forum,depict an Heavier set individual,having his head Bandaged by Police Officers?
Witness Hichem Ben Abdallah,described an Individual wearing a"Short Grey Jacket,with a dirty White baseball Cap at the scene,yet the CCTV picture from the Guardian shows a man,Thomas Mair in a black hooded type top and a half Grey,White T shirt?
In the Second video page 6,at 0.22 secs,no holdall near Thomas Mair?  At 0.24-0.26 seconds a bald headed Officer arrives near from Car 3,carrying something in his right hand and placed asside or Near first Patrol car,then a Dark haired Police Officer places an Item into the Rear of the 1St Patrol Car,the Third Video has been Wooshed from the page 6 Article?

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Re: THE JO COX MURDER & THE EU REFERENDUM

Post by MayMuse on Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:32 pm


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Re: THE JO COX MURDER & THE EU REFERENDUM

Post by BlueBag on Fri Nov 18, 2016 4:07 pm

This story is messed up.
Witnesses at the time described a different man.

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Re;Jo Cox Murder Trial.

Post by willowthewisp on Mon Nov 21, 2016 12:47 pm

Hi Maymuse,I know Chris Spivey comes in for a lot of stick over his articles(Lee R),but he does point out a lot of unanswered questions to the Police and the Arrest of Thomas Mair?
Markings on the Road disappearing,the proposed"Secret Filming"and Thomas Mairs extremely thin Ankles and large boots,footwear,plus other witness evidence that needs answers?

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Re: THE JO COX MURDER & THE EU REFERENDUM

Post by Roxyroo on Mon Nov 21, 2016 6:03 pm

@willowthewisp wrote:
Hi Maymuse,I know Chris Spivey comes in for a lot of stick over his articles(Lee R),but he does point out a lot of unanswered questions to the Police and the Arrest of Thomas Mair?
Markings on the Road disappearing,the proposed"Secret Filming"and Thomas Mairs extremely thin Ankles and large boots,footwear,plus other witness evidence that needs answers?


But any relevant points he may make are TOTALLY discredited (by himself) by the ridiculous face morphings/all famous people being other people nonsense. How can anyone take any of it seriously, and I wonder does he even take it seriously himself.
I don't know which other way to describe that nonsense, but I.m sure if anyone was to look they would see what I mean instantly.
(I do agree something is fishy re. Tommy Mair, but this is maybe why Spivey exists. I.e. anyone looking into this will immediately dismiss it ALL as tin foil hat conspiracy theory nonsense)

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Re;Jo Cox Murder Trial.

Post by willowthewisp on Mon Nov 21, 2016 6:36 pm

Hi Roxyroo,thanks for your reply,agree with you about the"morphing Photographs" and Chris Spivey's constant need to us this method!
If it is ever proved that the "secret Recording"was obtained to have been done like some sort of"Glaido"Operation,we're talking about serious corruption by Nefarious people?
But what I find strange is the need to have"Images enhanced"of the deceased MP Jo Cox,is this a first in a Murder Trail,that"Photographic images"not used but"Computerised images"is this to stop the Jury from seeing the effects of a brutal Murder?
Is this due to the Image in the Public's mind of the MP Jo Cox,that could sway their feelings on a sensitive issue and I am not proposing that the Images to be shown in the MSM,but it hasn't bothered them before when fellow Humans have met a gruesome end?
There are a lot of questions that remain unanswered on MP Jo Cox's death,especially of whom she(Jo) used to work for,regarding to events in Syria and The USA?

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Re;Jo Cox Murder Trial.

Post by willowthewisp on Tue Nov 22, 2016 11:07 am

The MSM having a field day after being given access to Photographs of a defendants abode,which is not a "Crime Scene",so why are the MSM streaming this type of footage,is this some sort of assassination of a person's character,that they must be guilty,due to "Books & memorabilia"found in their bedroom or personal space in their own home?
PS, I am not saying or stating this person is innocent of any "Crime"but it is being sensationalised due to the Dead person being a Former MP,up holder of State Law and Order Oath taken as an MP?
Or is it"Crime by Association" any Historians be very aware if the Police raid your House,as you'll never know what"Big Brother will find"?

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Re: THE JO COX MURDER & THE EU REFERENDUM

Post by BlueBag on Tue Nov 22, 2016 11:33 am

There are still attacking Brexit.
Because everyone who voted leave is associated with Tommy Mair.
By sly inference.

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Re: THE JO COX MURDER & THE EU REFERENDUM

Post by sar on Tue Nov 22, 2016 7:07 pm

Amazingly tidy drawers for someone who had apparently so many problems

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Re,Jo Cox Murder

Post by willowthewisp on Wed Nov 23, 2016 12:42 pm

Hi Sar,perhaps Mr Mair is suffering with "OCD"?
what is apparent in this Trail are the Prosecution and Defendants "Legal Teams",the Prosecution have a top QC who has connections to Government and MI5/6?
Whilst the"Defendants Team"has its arms tied,due to Mr Mair,declining to give evidence of his case to the Jury,where upon the "Jury"will have to make their Judgements on,Witness statements,CCTV and the Evidence from the Scene of the Crime detectives case work,as to Mr Mairs innocence?
It seems as though,Mr Mairs Defence Team are"Crossing the T's and Dotting the I's,as to ensure that all Legal Processes have been followed,in case of any"Appeals Process"procedures?
I refer to my earlier posts on conflicting"Witness"sightings and certain discrepancies,which the MSM are fearing to venture into,as to the Death of an MP,Jo Cox at a time of"heightened tension"of the EU Referendum,where the"Remain Camp"were behind in the likely hood of Losing the Vote and now we have Article 50 to be decided by MP's,who are pro-Remain voters?
Also note in the Media of the "Sudden input of Andre Brevrik",Norway Murders screening,just after Evidence has been brought to light as to what was discovered at a certain Defendants Home,which is being used as"Evidence linking" to the defendant?

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Post by BlueBag on Wed Nov 23, 2016 1:18 pm

Pleads not guilty.

Offers no defense.

Found guilty.

Show trial.

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Post by willowthewisp on Wed Nov 23, 2016 4:27 pm

@BlueBag wrote:Pleads not guilty.

Offers no defense.

Found guilty.

Show trial.
The"Judge"has determined the,"Terrorist Murder of Jo Cox"?
So Thomas Mair shot MP Jo Cox Three times and inflicted fifteen Knife wounds,then walked calmly away on foot,caught on CCTV and arrested by Two Police Officers, Fifty Seven Minutes later,who state Mr Mair, said to them"Its a Political point"still carrying his Weapons?

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Post by Get'emGonçalo on Wed Nov 23, 2016 5:07 pm

And sentenced to life in prison.

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Post by notlongnow on Wed Nov 23, 2016 7:39 pm

Thank goodness he won't be released.

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Re;Jo Cox Murder Trial.

Post by willowthewisp on Thu Nov 24, 2016 11:36 am

Hi Notlongnow,Mr Thomas Mair has been found Guilty by his "Peers"and the system incorporated by the state and if as you have stated that,the named person did actually commit the Offence he was charged with,then he deserves to serve his sentence at one of HMP buildings.
The death of Jo Cox has been politicised from the outset and has a close association to the European Union Referendum and that result,what the people are seeing in the MSM just now,is the need to stop the"White Supremacist"agenda?
Take a look at who has just been elected as President of the American people and Mr Trumps associations to very"Special friends"who have supported his Business Empire structures,who have donated very large sums of Money to"charitable causes",these people are now finding their rewards by being offered to work for the American President,one Donald Trump?
Throughout Mr Mair's Trial,the MSM have highlighted his exposure to literature from the German Empire from World War One and Two,then had material linking the Norway Murders to the"Supremacist Agenda",people throughout Europe are now being offered an alternative,to the way they have voted for the past seventy one years since the end of the Second World War.
There are very"Powerful"people throughout this World who have learnt how to Control the masses,be it through"Government"or by close associations to Politicians who have"greased"some palms along the way to gain control of the people,what we do not know is what is their agenda?

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Re;Jo Cox Murder Trial.

Post by willowthewisp on Mon Nov 28, 2016 4:42 pm

So the Police have confirmed that the"Gun"used to Murder(Jo,RIP)had been stolen from the boot of a car from West Yorkshire 12 Months ago,did they find Thomas Mairs finger prints from the car and match them up to the Murder Weapon,you know the one that had a taped stock,not the one shown in photographs to the Jury?
The Police confirm, they found the"Brown coat" Thomas Mair was carrying"Nine days"after the Death and the Police report had said Mr Mair had hidden the coat under a parked car,then a Police Officer confirmed to a Yorkshire News Paper that an Officer had placed this"Brown Coat"under the car to Protect the Evidence?
The Reporting of Jo's death,died at the scene of the attack,then changed to died at the hospital,arriving by helicopter?
People may not like Chris Spivey and some of his reporting style,may leave a lot to be desired,but if anyone cares to look at his latest posting on the Jo Cox murder,there are a lot of unanswered questions as to why certain Witnesses where never called to give evidence at the Trail? 
Also Note,that in"All"pictures of Thomas Mair by the Press and Police,have Mr Mair wearing Long Sleeved Clothing,with No visible Tattoos,have the Police who arrested Mr Mair confirmed the Tattoos present on the arrested defendant?
CMoMM members are described as"Conspiracy Theorists"in what they believe happened to Madeleine,but the alternative side never seem to offer a valid reason for the events that have been disclosed by the Portuguese Authorities,except for the 2008 archiving of the case,as Adhoc by Gerry McCann,"There's No Evidence of their Involvement" of what happened to Madeleine on 3 May 2007?
Take a look at how much assistance has been given to one family with so many unanswered questions(48)by Madeleine's Mother,Tapas 9 pact of silence,gives some degree of just how involved people are behind the scenes of"Criminal behaviour,secrecy,Dunblane, Massacare 100 yr D-notice?
Then do you still believe the MSM when they print their version of events of what is supposed to have happened and not stating factual Evidence?

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Re: THE JO COX MURDER & THE EU REFERENDUM

Post by Copodenieve on Sun Jan 08, 2017 4:11 pm

I can't remember the surname of the secretary of Jo Cox. She was called Sandra and I helped her at the scene of the crime. She said that the murderer had said "Freedom of the liberation" or maybe I misheard and it was "Freedom of the Nation"..but I don't think I misheard. Since I don't read newspapers or watch TV I was wondering if anyone could tell me if Sandra, who was a prime witness, has ever said anything publicly about this case or if she was called on as a witness at court.

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Post by tinkier on Sun Jan 08, 2017 9:54 pm

Sandra Major...She did give evidence and was asked whether the gunman had said anything, she replied: "It was something along the lines of 'Keep Britain independent,' or 'British independence.'"according to the BBC....http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37997235

Ms Major, who was getting out of a parked car with the MP and Ms Aswat, told the court she saw a man walking past with a gun in his hand.
"He raised his arm and shot her [Jo Cox] in the head. She fell backwards into the ground and there was blood pouring down her face," she said.
Asked whether the gunman had said anything, she replied: "It was something along the lines of 'Keep Britain independent,' or 'British independence.'"
Ms Major told jurors that Mrs Cox had tried to protect her staff even as she was being stabbed.
The court also heard from Ms Aswat who said she had screamed for help as a knifeman stood over the MP and pleaded for her to run.
The man retreated but returned to continue the attack, as more people gathered round. She tried to hit him with her handbag, but missed, the court heard.

Ms Aswat said she thought Mrs Cox had been stabbed first and then shot at close range.
At the end of the attack, the assailant stood up and said "Britain first, this is for Britain. Britain will always come first," before walking off, she told jurors.
Ms Aswat said she held the injured Mrs Cox in her arms and tried to encourage her by talking about her two young children.

The police only took two or three minutes to arrive but it felt like a lifetime, she told the court.


Evidence given in court by 2 different people who were on the scene and witnessed everything as it happened, yet their version of events (just in the above statements) seem to be entirely different!

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Re: THE JO COX MURDER & THE EU REFERENDUM

Post by BlueBag on Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:53 am

The attack by the man in the white hat.

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Re: THE JO COX MURDER & THE EU REFERENDUM

Post by BlueBag on Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:35 am

Interesting.

The pathologist for Jo Cox, Jill Dando and David Kelly was Dr Richard Shepherd.

Shepherd examined Jo Cox later the same day of the murder.

I presume he doesn't live in Yorkshire.

Busy man.

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