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NEWSFLASH - The late Sir Clement Freud, resident of Praia da Luz and friend of the McCanns, exposed as a serial paedophile, Lady Freud apologises, Operation Grange to investigate McCann-Freud links (Daily Telegraph 14 Jun 2016)

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Post by Verdi on 26.06.16 0:34

'Ere we go 'ere we go 'ere we go..

Clement Freud paedophile probe link


POLICE are trying to establish whether a paedophile ring linked to Sir Clement Freud was operating at the holiday resort where Madeleine McCann disappeared.

By James Murray and Tracey Kandohla, Exclusive

PUBLISHED: 00:01, Sun, Jun 26, 2016

Mason Haynes, son of a woman sexually abused by the late Liberal MP, has suggested that Freud was a predatory paedophile who would not have stopped offending during regular holidays at his villa in the Algarve town of Praia da Luz.

Three-year-old Madeleine disappeared from a holiday apartment in May 2007, while Freud was apparently still in England.

However, Mr Mason, 42, said: “My theory is that if you live somewhere for 25 years as a paedophile, you become part of the paedophile ring that exists in that area.

“I think the abduction was carried out by that ring and Freud knew something about what happened to the child.”

Since Freud was identified as a child abuser many more victims have come forward suggesting that he was a serial offender.

Last week detectives from Operation Grange, the Scotland Yard squad investigating Madeleine’s disappearance, visited Mason’s mother Vicky Haynes, 64, at her home in Somerset.

She was only 14 when she was abused by broadcaster Freud.
She went to police several years ago after reading Kate McCann’s book detailing how Freud set out to befriend her and her husband Gerry two months after their daughter vanished.

Last week officers apologised to her for not acting on that information at the time.

They are now looking again at the claims, even though they have no hard evidence to work on.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/683428/Clement-Freud-paedophile-probe-link

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Post by canada12 on 26.06.16 0:58

Things are strangely quiet on the Clarence Mitchell / Kate and Gerry front.

This could go in any number of ways for them.

OG could conclude there's no connection between CF and Madeleine.

OG could conclude a member of CF's circle "absconded" with Madeleine and therein lies the blame. Ah...but the dogs. Can't get around those dogs....

OG could conclude there's a definite connection between CF and Madeleine and that connection is with Kate and Gerry and their Tapas friends.

Is there nail biting in Rothley Towers?

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Post by Verdi on 26.06.16 21:28

@canada12 wrote:Things are strangely quiet on the Clarence Mitchell / Kate and Gerry front.

This could go in any number of ways for them.

OG could conclude there's no connection between CF and Madeleine.

OG could conclude a member of CF's circle "absconded" with Madeleine and therein lies the blame. Ah...but the dogs. Can't get around those dogs....

OG could conclude there's a definite connection between CF and Madeleine and that connection is with Kate and Gerry and their Tapas friends.

Is there nail biting in Rothley Towers?
I think the withdrawal from the EU will be dominating the media for quite some time, question is - will that be an advantage or disadvantage to team McCann?  It could be a convenient opportunity for Operation Grange to throw in the towel or it could be a convenient opportunity to continue jogging along without too much attention.

In my opinion, the proclaimed Clement Freud link is just a load of nonsense to propagate the paedophile/abductor hypothesis spread abroad by the McCann PR campaign in May 2007 - and since.  Abuse I believe to be a dead cert but not by the hand of a deceased Clement Freud or his circle of chums - his name is but a means to an end.  My policy is to always look within - not without!

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Post by Verdi on 27.06.16 1:59

Meanwhile another link in the chain pending investigation along with the other national treasure - Stephen Fry..


LET’S HOLD A MADELEINE DAY FOR THE WHOLE WORLD
Sunday June 3, 2007

By Jason Groves

ROCK legend Sir Elton John is being lined up to front a global pop concert, to carry the message of missing Madeleine McCann’s plight to every corner of the earth.

It is hoped the singer will headline a huge series of worldwide events to mark a special Madeleine Day that her  distraught parents are planning in the effort to find the vanished four-year-old.

Sir Elton’s popular appeal is guaranteed to attract a swarm of other film and music superstars keen to offer support to parents Gerry and Kate McCann.

The couple, having promised not to return home until they are reunited with Madeleine, are now planning a series of visits to European and North African cities, to distribute posters and widen the appeal for information.

Sir Elton has played an emotional DVD of Madeline at his concerts,but now believes a larger effort would do more to raise awareness of her predicament.

Gerry McCann, 38, said: “One of the ideas is maybe getting all the people who have publicly supported us to come together. I don’t just mean from the UK but from different parts of the world. We want a big event to raise awareness that she is still missing.



“We would look at high-profile people who have already pledged support. It will be some sort of focus around an anniversary, to tell people that Madeleine’s still missing. I think it would be later this year, once media attention has dropped, to bring it back up, hopefully, for a short period.



“It wouldn’t be a one-year anniversary, it will be sooner than that. What we’re doing at the minute has its role but doing that down the line in a few months won’t have anything like the same impact. We might have a sporting event, something arts, something music.



“We’ve had backing from sporting people up to now. We have had backing from certain musical celebrities as well. We’ve got some other musical contacts that we are exploring, who are happy to offer support.



“We’re not saying it would necessarily be one big concert, it might be that on a certain day they are playing her DVD.



“What we want at the current time is maximum message out there now, about her disappearance but then just events to bring it back up occasionally just to remind people, if she’s not found.”


A month after the sleeping Madeleine was snatched from her bed, Gerry and Kate McCann have betrayed the first signs that their hopes of finding her alive are starting to fade.

The couple confessed that they are haunted by the harrowing thought of her being held captive by a pervert. Still desperately clinging to Madeleine’s pink Cuddle Cat, 38-year-old Kate said: “We don’t know where she is. We’d like to think she’s still in Portugal, she might still be in Portugal.

But we know there’s a possibility she’s gone over the border – or several borders. We know there are bad people out there, but we know there are also a lot of sad people. We hope it’s the latter.”

Gerry added: “Of course we believe Madeleine is still alive but you would be incredible if you hadn’t considered the worst scenario, that she’s dead.
“Kate and I discuss it – not a lot, but we talk about hope, and that while there’s some we will not give up. At the minute, there’s loads of hope.”

THE END!

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Post by worriedmum on 27.06.16 8:54

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  Verdi Today at 11:59 am
Meanwhile another link in the chain pending investigation along with the other national treasure - Stephen Fry..


LET’S HOLD A MADELEINE DAY FOR THE WHOLE WORLD
Sunday June 3, 2007

By Jason Groves

ROCK legend Sir Elton John is being lined up to front a global pop concert, to carry the message of missing Madeleine McCann’s plight to every corner of the earth.

It is hoped the singer will headline a huge series of worldwide events to mark a special Madeleine Day that her  distraught parents are planning in the effort to find the vanished four-year-old.

Sir Elton’s popular appeal is guaranteed to attract a swarm of other film and music superstars keen to offer support to parents Gerry and Kate McCann.

The couple, having promised not to return home until they are reunited with Madeleine, are now planning a series of visits to European and North African cities, to distribute posters and widen the appeal for information.

Sir Elton has played an emotional DVD of Madeline at his concerts,but now believes a larger effort would do more to raise awareness of her predicament.

Gerry McCann, 38, said: “One of the ideas is maybe getting all the people who have publicly supported us to come together. I don’t just mean from the UK but from different parts of the world. We want a big event to raise awareness that she is still missing.



“We would look at high-profile people who have already pledged support. It will be some sort of focus around an anniversary, to tell people that Madeleine’s still missing. I think it would be later this year, once media attention has dropped, to bring it back up, hopefully, for a short period.



“It wouldn’t be a one-year anniversary, it will be sooner than that. What we’re doing at the minute has its role but doing that down the line in a few months won’t have anything like the same impact. We might have a sporting event, something arts, something music.''


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Post by sandancer on 27.06.16 9:28

World wide events , distraught parents ! Do the two really go together ?

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Post by Verdi on 27.06.16 13:52

Gerry McCann, 38, said:

“One of the ideas is maybe getting all the people who have publicly supported us to come together. I don’t just mean from the UK but from different parts of the world. We want a big event to raise awareness that she is still missing.


“We would look at high-profile people who have already pledged support. It will be some sort of focus around an anniversary, to tell people that Madeleine’s still missing. I think it would be later this year, once media attention has dropped, to bring it back up, hopefully, for a short period.

“It wouldn’t be a one-year anniversary, it will be sooner than that. What we’re doing at the minute has its role but doing that down the line in a few months won’t have anything like the same impact. We might have a sporting event, something arts, something music.

“We’ve had backing from sporting people up to now. We have had backing from certain musical celebrities as well. We’ve got some other musical contacts that we are exploring, who are happy to offer support.

“We’re not saying it would necessarily be one big concert, it might be that on a certain day they are playing her DVD.

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The man disgusts me, it's like a big money spinning game to him.  This article was published on 3rd June 2007, only one month after Madeleine disappeared, if it isn't an open admission that Madeleine will never be found I don't know what is.

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Post by jeanmonroe on 27.06.16 15:09

“It wouldn’t be a one-year anniversary, it will be sooner than that. What we’re doing at the minute has its role but doing that down the line in a few months won’t have anything like the same impact. We might have a sporting event, something arts, something music. (We might have.....'in a few months 'time')
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So, not 'expecting' to 'find' Madeleine 'in a few months 'time''?

Hmmmm.

jta: Why did John McCann 'quit' his 'good job', join Madeleine's 'fund', as a NON PAID 'director' for 3 years 2 months, and then resign as a 'director' of Madeleine's 'fund'?

What did John McCann 'live on' during those 3years 2 months?

His own personal 'savings'?


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Post by Verdi on 27.06.16 16:38

@jeanmonroe wrote:“It wouldn’t be a one-year anniversary, it will be sooner than that. What we’re doing at the minute has its role but doing that down the line in a few months won’t have anything like the same impact. We might have a sporting event, something arts, something music.  (We might have.....'in a few months 'time')
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So, not 'expecting' to 'find' Madeleine 'in a few months 'time''?

Hmmmm.

jta: Why did John McCann 'quit' his 'good job', join Madeleine's 'fund', as a NON PAID 'director' for 3 years 2 months, and then resign as a 'director' of Madeleine's 'fund'?

What did John McCann 'live on' during those 3years 2 months?

His own personal 'savings'?

I believe this would be covered by 'Merchandise and Campaign costs' as detailed in the highly vaunted transparent Madeleine Fund Co. Ltd smilie .  Is Jon Corner still a named director I ask myself?

Talking of whom, I recently spotted this on mccannfiles.com..

'Jon Corner, film producer and friend of the McCanns (wife is a longtime friend of Kate) and Godparent to the twins, Amelie and Sean, appointment announced 09 January 2008. Reportedly drafted in to help Clarence Mitchell look at offers they have received, such as making a docudrama or writing a book.'

Only eight months down the line and already thinking docudrama and book?   Off topic but I also noticed this little gem..

Philip Tomlinson, a retired solicitor and former coroner in Leicestershire, appointed 20 June 2007 - No. of Company appointments: 5; (Resigned) replaced by Jon Corner

No doubt this curiousity has been researched in the past - I will have a look at my leisure.

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Post by Verdi on 29.06.16 21:43

OK, so where is this letter on headed Commons paper!  Do these people think we've just floated in at Liverpool dock on a banana boat?

The only thing missing to make this even more ridiculous (if that's possible) is the final line 'a source close to the family say that Kate and Gerry McCann are buoyed up by this latest revelation'.

Not disputing that Clement Freud was a dirty old goat but the claim amounts to nothing without production of the letter

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Post by Tony Bennett on 02.08.16 9:58

@Get'emGonçalo wrote:Paedophile Clement Freud 'fathered a child with his 17-year-old nanny - then kicked her out of his home' 

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3717691/Paedophile-Clement-Freud-fathered-child-17-year-old-nanny.html#ixzz4G9qeGoqk
This is an appalling story - and it happened back in 1956. There is surely more to come out about the oily, creepy character.

Goncalo Amaral basically said that MI5 was all over the Madeleine McCann case from the 'off'. He famously said that the case would be 'solved' if the MI5 case files on the case were ever opened.

It is the job of MI5 to monitor the activities of politicians.

Clement Freud for some time shared an office in the House of Commons with fellow Liberal M.P. Cyril Smith.

(I apologise. SIR Clement Freud shared an office with SIR Cyril Smith).

Would anyone dare to suggest that MI5 did not know that these two MPs were serial paedophiles?

Special Branch officers drove the McCanns from East Midlands Airport to 5 The Crescent, Rothley on Sunday 9 September when they fled Portugal ('madeleine', by Kate McCann, p. 259), and soon afterwards attended at the McCanns' home together with Leicestershire Police's Senior Investigating Officer in the case, Detective Chief Superintendent Bob Small - the senior detective who spoke to Jane Tanner before she 'identified' the man she claimed to have seen on 3 May 2007 as Robert Murat.   

Is there anyone left who doubts that whatever happened to Madeleine McCann must be connected to some dirty great big secret that the British government at the highest level wished to cover up? (see quote from John Stalker above on the forum banner)

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Post by aquila on 02.08.16 11:04

@Tony Bennett wrote:
@Get'emGonçalo wrote:Paedophile Clement Freud 'fathered a child with his 17-year-old nanny - then kicked her out of his home' 

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3717691/Paedophile-Clement-Freud-fathered-child-17-year-old-nanny.html#ixzz4G9qeGoqk
This is an appalling story - and it happened back in 1956. There is surely more to come out about the oily, creepy character.

Goncalo Amaral basically said that MI5 was all over the Madeleine McCann case from the 'off'. He famously said that the case would be 'solved' if the MI5 case files on the case were ever opened.

It is the job of MI5 to monitor the activities of politicians.

Clement Freud for some time shared an office in the House of Commons with fellow Liberal M.P. Cyril Smith.

(I apologise. SIR Clement Freud shared an office with SIR Cyril Smith).

Would anyone dare to suggest that MI5 did not know that these two MPs were serial paedophiles?

Special Branch officers drove the McCanns from East Midlands Airport to 5 The Crescent, Rothley on Sunday 9 September when they fled Portugal ('madeleine', by Kate McCann, p. 259), and soon afterwards attended at the McCanns' home together with Leicestershire Police's Senior Investigating Officer in the case, Detective Chief Superintendent Bob Small - the senior detective who spoke to Jane Tanner before she 'identified' the man she claimed to have seen on 3 May 2007 as Robert Murat.   

Is there anyone left who doubts that whatever happened to Madeleine McCann must be connected to some dirty great big secret that the British government at the highest level wished to cover up? (see quote from John Stalker above on the forum banner)
Well I have no doubts.

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Post by Roxyroo on 09.09.16 17:21

Does any else think its not just another big coincidence that Gerry exclaims "Ask the dogs, Sandra" after they had been treated to that bit of advice, and amazing risotto, from Mr Freud, that the dogs would of course not be put on the stand to give evidence? nah

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Post by willowthewisp on 09.09.16 17:31

Having read the Article,it points out that now perhaps it would be better to have the "Public"accept being a Swinger than a"Paedophile"association,changed from the"Neglect"argument first put forward as to Madeleine's disappearance 3 May 2007?
What,textusa,make clear is there is an association between Operation Grange and the Defamation Trail now before the Portuguese Supreme Court,that Operation Grange will not close it's case before a decision is reached from the Supreme Court?
It also points out,that if the McCann family lose the case at the Supreme Court hearing,the McCann family would be liable to pay both Sides Costs,they do not mention any counter claim by Mr Goncalo Amaral of which he could pursue if the case is lost by Kate and Gerry McCann's legal challenge.
I would also like to point out,that the "Three Paedophile Burglar's" would need to be properly explained by Operation Grange if they persist with that Hypothetical claim as to what happened to Madeleine McCann,when she was reported missing from apartment 5a Ocean Club on the above date?
Remarkably DCS Bob Small gave advice to Kate and Gerry about meeting Clement Freud,Mr Small also allowed JT to have accession to Identify Robert Murat,before Jane was placed in the Surveilance Van for the PJ able to identify Robert as a suspect in the case?

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Post by whodunit on 10.09.16 19:46

I'd like to address a couple of the points that are being made in this thread, if I may:

1. Freud wasn't 'into' 3 year olds. *


I am unaware of any comprehensive studies which conclusively prove that a pedophile's 'tastes' do not ever change evolve. I am willing to be corrected if I am wrong.  As far as I am aware nobody is accusing Freud of sexually abusing MBM. As far as I am aware nobody is accusing Freud of being directly involved with the death of MBM. His presence in PDL and his involvement with the Mcs is simply one more building block in a monolith of suspicions about pedophilic activity surrounding the death of MBM and the possible motivations for concealing her corpse.

2. The media is using the allegations against Freud as a distraction from the guilt of the McCanns.

This is highly unlikely. In what world does the media use a big name, former MP, aristocratic descendant of a famous historical figure as a scapegoat to save a pair of unknown doctors? However, it is fascinating that media connected the dots between Freud and the McCann case when ordinarily a connection like that would have been assiduously avoided. Something else other than scapegoating is [was--whatever the issue going on behind the scenes it seems resolved now] at work here.**

3. No way old man Freud abducted Madeleine from her bed so he couldn't be involved.

 This argument is a straw man and anyone making it is suspect in my eyes. Nobody can credibly postulate that this is role Freud played, if he is indeed involved in the case, but it's not an either/or proposition. He CAN be involved without having abducted MBM from her bed because an abduction never happened anyway.


*AS an addendum, I think it's helpful for people to understand that it is not necessary for perpetrators who engage in the making and distribution of child pornography, as well as the necessary child trafficking, to be actual pedophiles. All it takes is an immense greed and a complete lack of morals, ethics, and scruples. The same goes for those engaging in 'high level' political pedophile rings whose purpose is blackmail and who are not necessarily 'here to have fun'.

As for cults [and there is some indication that a 'May Day' ritual may have been involved in the death of this precious child but I am unwilling to theorize as to which cult could be responsible] sadistic pedophilia [which can obviously result in 'unintentional' death] is often a requirement of 'moving up' in degrees but also  does not require a clinical diagnosis of pedophilia. It requires a desire to 'transgress' normal and acceptable behaviors and a cruel and sadistic nature. It may also involve some participants who have no choice but to go along with the activities and who know to keep their mouths shut or else. Frankly I detect at least a couple of these victims in the Tapas group.

Further, there is nothing ruling out a confluence of all of these groups-- cult, political, sexually deviant, profiteer---in the death of MBM.

**May have been warning shots in the Freud/Murdoch divorce case.

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