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Post by MRNOODLES on 31.05.16 12:23

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/kate-and-gerry-mccann-appeal-against-former-detective-who-claims-they-killed-madeleine-a7057171.html

[size=48]Madeleine McCann: Kate and Gerry McCann appeal against former detective who claims they killed Madeleine[/size]

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Post by Doug D on 31.05.16 12:28

GA 57 in this one as well. They all just copy each other.

Dreadful.

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Post by jeanmonroe on 31.05.16 12:52

'Screen shotted'

Not sure how 'long' Emma Henderson, 'byline' writer, will 'last' as the Independent's 'expert' on all things McCan't!
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McCann appeal against former detective who claims they killed Madeleine
Decision for former detective Goncalo Amaral to pay McCanns £380,000 in damages overturned in supreme court
Emma Henderson
Tuesday 31 May 2016 12:00 BST
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/kate-and-gerry-mccann-appeal-against-former-detective-who-claims-they-killed-madeleine-a7057171.html

Nice bit of 'libel' by the indepentent.

The 'Indy's' bosses must have 'loadza money'! (for 'libel' cases!)

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Post by Cmaryholmes on 31.05.16 12:53

The Independent proving how independent it isn't by rehashing stories from that most excellent journal 'The Sun'. Pitiful.

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Post by Mirage on 31.05.16 12:53

They seem very cavalier in asserting this. Goncalo Amaral said nothing of the sort. I hope he sues the Independent.

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Post by whatsupdoc on 31.05.16 12:53

@MRNOODLES wrote:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/kate-and-gerry-mccann-appeal-against-former-detective-who-claims-they-killed-madeleine-a7057171.html

[size=48]Madeleine McCann: Kate and Gerry McCann appeal against former detective who claims they killed Madeleine[/size]

I hope the Independent paper is added to the list for suing...so many lies in the article.

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Post by BlueBag on 31.05.16 13:04

"Killed" is different to "murdered".

Accidental death is "killed".

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Post by jeanmonroe on 31.05.16 13:09

Is there 'no-one', in position, at these 'news offices' that could have told Emma 'you cannot, and will not, state that GA 'claimed' that the McCan'ts 'killed' Madeleine'?

The 'libel' falls directly to E Henderson.

Whether the 'Indy' chooses to 'support' her, should she be 'sued', is a matter for them.

Maybe, maybe, 'they' want to be 'sued' and have various 'facts', about the 'case', exposed in a open court room?

Now 'that' could be 'explosive'!

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Post by jeanmonroe on 31.05.16 13:10

@BlueBag wrote:"Killed" is different to "murdered".

Accidental death is "killed".

Not that it matters, but GA said 'neither' about the McCan'ts 'actions' about Madeleine..

It was, and is, his 'belief', and the PJ's 'belief', that 'Madeleine died, albeit accidentally, in her apartment, that a simulation of an abduction 'took place' and that a 'cover-up' was 'performed'

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Post by dottyaussie on 31.05.16 13:18

Journalist (used loosely) Emma Henderson "If Ms and Mr McCann lose the latest battle, they could face a large pay-out to Mr Amaral, which would drain the public donations in the Find Maddie Fund which currently stands at £750,000. The loss would also hinder their on-going search for their daughter who they believe may still be alive."

Is she going for the sympathy vote of the donors here ? What a load of tosh !!!!

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Post by jeanmonroe on 31.05.16 13:26

'Find Maddie Fund'?

Was, is, there such a 'thing'?

'Sounds' better than 'Madeleine's Fund. LNSU. A registered private limited company', i 'suppose'

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Post by plebgate on 31.05.16 13:28

They haven't searched for Maddie since SY started their reinvestigation.    If SY with all their resources and staffing levels have been unable to come up with anything new then what are the odds that hiring a couple more PIs will do the trick?

IMO any money in the Fund should go towards repaying the taxpayer and any legal costs should be covered out of their own pockets.

Rocky A will win I believe, as I cannot understand how THREE appeal court judges who unanimously found in his favour will have left room for any point of law objection.

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Post by jeanmonroe on 31.05.16 13:34

At 'least' SIX (6) 'appeal' court judges have 'found' unanimously, in GA's 'favour'

How did the first 'lot' of SC judges, re 'book ban', 'vote'?

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Post by plebgate on 31.05.16 13:38

Yes, thanks for the correction JeanM.   

SIX appeal court judges finding in his favour - surely that doesn't leave much "wriggle" room on points of law?

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Post by jeanmonroe on 31.05.16 13:55

I'll 'answer' my 'own' question, if i may.

McCanns Appeal To The Supreme Court (re 'book ban' appeal overturned by 'appellate' court) 10 November 2010.

The McCanns travel to Lisbon as their lawyer, Isabel Duarte, announces that the couple have appealed to the Supreme Court of Justice over the Appellate Court decision to overtrun the ban on Gonçalo Amaral's book: "Maddie, The Truth of the Lie".

However, on 18 March 2011, the Supreme Court rejects the appeal and authorises the sale of Gonçalo Amaral's book about Madeleine McCann. The former PJ co-ordinator describes it as a "victory for democracy".

So, it 'looks like' the SC didn't (rejects) even 'entertain' the McCan'ts 'appeal' and their 'appeal' was NEVER 'heard' in a full session of the SCoJ.

Ooopps!

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Post by Rogue-a-Tory on 31.05.16 14:10

GA accused the parents of killing

Parents cleared of any wrongdoing

Amazingly MSM are still allowed to pedal myths and falsehoods - but only in favour of the dreadful duo.

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Post by BlueBag on 31.05.16 14:16

@jeanmonroe wrote:
@BlueBag wrote:"Killed" is different to "murdered".

Accidental death is "killed".

Not that it matters, but GA said 'neither' about the McCan'ts 'actions' about Madeleine..

It was, and is, his 'belief', and the PJ's 'belief', that 'Madeleine died, accidentally, in her apartment, that a simulation of an abduction 'took place' and that a 'cover-up' was 'performed'
He has said that the death may have occurred due to an overdose of calpol.

If you accidentally or negligently overdose your child and they die that's killing.

If it's intentional, that would be murder.

The journalist has wriggle room.

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Post by jeanmonroe on 31.05.16 14:23

BlueBag

'He has said that the death may have occurred due to an overdose of calpol.'
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Do you have a 'reference' for 'that'?

TBH, that's the first time i have 'heard' of GA 'saying that'



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Post by BlueBag on 31.05.16 14:32

The book. 
Chapter 4.

http://goncaloamaraltruthofthelie.blogspot.co.uk/2009/06/true-victim-is-missing-child.html


The paternal grandfather stated that Kate gave the little girl - and also the twins - Calpol, a medication designed to facilitate falling asleep. That seems to be a common practice in Great Britain; they even talk about a "Calpol generation." In recent years, the possible presence of an antihistamine with sedative effects in Calpol has aroused great controversy. Recently, the same laboratory put Calpol Night on the market, whose ingredients clearly list that it contains an antihistamine.

The mother admits having taken some to Portugal. She insists though that there is no calming effect, its being composed solely of paracetamol, and that she did not give any of it to her daughter during the holiday. At the time of her disappearance, Madeleine was sleeping in the same room as the twins. The latter, in spite of the noise, the mother's screaming and the comings and goings, did not wake up, as if they had been given sedatives. Would there not be a link between that difficulty in falling asleep and Madeleine's tragic end?

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Post by Guest on 31.05.16 14:39

It reads to me that he is referring to sedatives, not calpol.

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Post by jeanmonroe on 31.05.16 14:43

Sorry, still not 'getting it' that GA 'said' 'that the death may have occurred due to an overdose of Calpol'

Just 'me' i suppose!

"Would there not be a link between that difficulty in falling asleep and Madeleine's tragic end?"

Just a question, he asks, no mention of 'overdosing' on Calpol.

BOT.

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Post by BlueBag on 31.05.16 14:59

Whatever.

He refers to both sedatives and calpol and it seems he's equating the two.

Anyway, that matters not.

He is saying that the parents may have accidentally overdosed Madeleine.

That's an accidental killing.

Journalist get out of jail free card.

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Post by jeanmonroe on 01.06.16 16:52

IF there was 'nothing' wrong with the 'Indy's' headline, re: 'claims they killed', WHY has it been 'changed' to:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/kate-and-gerry-mccann-appeal-against-former-detective-who-claims-they-killed-madeleine-a7057171.html

'ORIGINAL' headline:

McCanns appeal against former detective who claims they killed Madeleine
Decision for former detective Goncalo Amaral to pay McCanns £380,000 in damages overturned in supreme court
Emma Henderson
Tuesday 31 May 2016 12:00 BST

NOW

Madeleine McCann: Kate and Gerry McCann appeal against former detective who claims they covered up Madeleine's death
Decision for former detective Goncalo Amaral to pay McCanns £380,000 in damages overturned in supreme court

Emma Henderson Tuesday 31 May 2016 16:40 BST

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Post by plebgate on 01.06.16 17:01

He has never claimed "they killed".

Even if it is argued that he said sedatives MIGHT have been involved, he could only then say she MIGHT have died as a result.   So not a categorical statement as suggested by that headline at all imo.

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Post by jeanmonroe on 01.06.16 17:07

And that's 'WHY' the 'Indy' CHANGED it's 'headline'

They have 'no money' to pay for EH's 'libel'! winkwink

For 'libel'.. it was!

She's still in 'trouble' though, this time........ from the McCan'ts!

She mentions 'Madeleine's death'

Nobody is going to 'donate' to their private limited company 'fund' to 'search/hunt' for a 'dead' Madeleine!

Didn't they 'sue' GA for 'hampering/harming/hindering' the 'search' for a LIVE Madeleine, by his 'suggesting', after the PJ's conclusion, to their investigation, that Madeleine was 'dead' albeit, accidentally?

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