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Post by Verdi 07.05.16 12:12

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It's out there for posterity and when this whole thing is exposed remember who wrote this letter and where you read it.
They're out there in the wings in a disorderly queue, waiting for the green light to give the go ahead for the final lap of the race to the finishing line.  I'll wager they've individually even got a write-up prepared (subject to minor amendment, depending which way the the wind blows) for publication as soon as - with claims such as ' I told you so' or  'we've said all along', quite forgetting all their wrongs and waverings along the way.

Meanwhile, whilst they await that golden opportunity, they occupy the idle hours insulting and ridiculing those who are actually doing something positive!!!

Carry on regardless Mr. Bennett and Mr. D. Hall - which of course I know you will.

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Post by Realist 07.05.16 12:58

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Exton's Belgian connections may prove to be relevant...

Marc Dutroux has made an awful lot of money in prison, supposedly having become skilful in dealing in shares and, doubtless, I should imagine also forex and futures and derivatives and stuff. It's not easy to make an awful lot of money unless you start off with a lot of it. It's extremely difficult.

Anders Breivik also made a lot of money in such financial "plays", using his small company with its footprint in a number of countries dotted around the world.

How strange that these two men should have such skills.

Not much about Exton is known, but Bindmans solicitors tried to suppress mention of his MI5 background, mentioning the Official Secrets Act and a DA-Notice in their letter to Paulo Reis and others. The curious thing is that since breach of the OSA is a crime, i.e. a wrong against the state, and not at all similar to libel or breach of copyright, which are civil wrongs and suitable matters for solicitors acting for private persons to write letters about, enforcement of the OSA is supposed to be a matter for the state - for example through the Treasury Solicitor. WTF? Did Bindmans notify the TSO, or MI5's lawyer, that the OSA had been breached? Surely they must have done.

Beware the idea of "Walter Mittys". Portraying someone as a Walter Mitty is one of the known limitation strategies.

We seem to be in the murky area where spookery overlaps big-time with international crime.

Which is what I had already surmised from the identity of one of the individuals who was staying in PdL at the time Madeleine "disappeared", and from the stated fact that Mark Warner Enterprises made no on-the-books profits for 16 years, while running luxury holidays, starting in Switzerland.

Margaret Hodge was chair of the Public Accounts Committee for nine years, helping the government get "value for money" and making sure "public money" didn't, er, go to waste. Much of her billionaire-bracket family's wealth was held using structures in Liechtenstein and Panama.

Get what I'm saying?

Meanwhile, Philip Green, who pocketed £500 million and then left BHS to go bust, much of whose  wealth is in Jersey-registered assets owned by his Monaco-resident wife, also played a crucial role "examining government spending".

Hodge's and Green's public-sector roles are very juicy if you can get them. There is a reason that these positions go to billionaire-bracket international business types who hold their money hidden offshore, rather than to individuals having more or less 9-5 workaday mundane bureaucratic CVs who live off their salaries plus maybe double or triple salary in entertainment and expenses and backhanders, but who are nowhere near the world of the billionaires.

Green "lent his private jet" to take the McCanns to see Pope Joseph Ratzinger. The Vatican Bank has large investments in Big Pharma. That is not going to be a fact of which Philip Green is unaware.

Just mentioning this stuff as background to WHY the McCann case has been considered, for several years, to be worth such a high level of involvement by the British state to develop false leads, and, well, to get to the point, to prevent the truth coming out.
I don't doubt any of your observations regarding the aforementioned, Harold, but why would the misfortunes of a pair of low ranking NHS doctors be of any consequence whatsoever to these people, but perhaps more poignantly, why would they become involved with assisting them on any level. Where's the connection, what did they stand to gain, or that matter, lose.

After all, these are people who wouldn't even recognise others outside their own circle as being worthy of granting an audience to, never mind assisting in any way.
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Post by Joss 07.05.16 17:28

Excellent articles Mr. Bennett. I wish you every success with your ongoing journey in fighting the good fight in the name of justice for Madeleine McCann.

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Post by plebgate 08.05.16 10:33

Well done GEG for tweeting the newspapers and Katie Hopkins with this link.

The papers would have sold a load of papers today I think had they reported it on the front page.
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Post by BarryTheHatchet 08.05.16 10:42

The public need a report on the findings of Operation Grange because we are the ones who are paying for it.
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Post by Liz Eagles 08.05.16 11:11

Since bumping up this thread yesterday morning it has received over 1500 views.

Please read letter Tony Bennett's letter on first four pages of this thread.
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Post by Verdi 09.05.16 0:21

Unless the eventual closure of Operation Grange is carefully worded to imply that it remains active - as would any case archived pending new evidence and/or intelligence - but without actually saying the case has in fact been archived, then they have no option but to justify indefinite continuation of a bogus investigation.

The UK police have no jurisdiction over this case, the crime was committed on Portuguese territory so they, the Portuguese have jurisdiction - if they require any assistance from the UK authorities they will ask for it by letters rogatory, if they don't then the UK authorities should not be involved in any way shape or form.  The UK media continue to portray the situation in a different light, for some inexplicable reason they want the public to believe that the UK are the leading force and Portuguese their humble lowly servants.

How is 10 Downing Street going to wriggle out of that simple fact when responding to the honorable Tony Bennett's extensive missive?  How is 10 Downing Street going to appease public outrage and explain about the amount of their hard earned cash that's been squandered on a massive scam that's not even within the UK's jurisdiction?

I look forward with bated breath to No. 10's response..

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Post by Joss 09.05.16 12:41

Couldn't agree more with what you say Verdi. There certainly needs to be accountability for all of it, and for why the U.K. got involved to the extent that it has for one missing child that went missing in a foreign country. Ben Needham's family never got anywhere near this amount of support from the U.K., so what's so special about the McCann's? A missing child is a missing child regardless of who the parents are, surely?

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Post by Verdi 09.05.16 13:02

The UK authorities have seriously compromised their position in this case.  The life of a child is in the heart of most citizens - the authorities can't mess with something like this and get away with it without some explanation.

Bravo again to Tony Bennett for taking the initiative, throwing caution to the wind and diving straight in to the core of this messy business.  I really long to see how 10 Downing Street is going to wriggle it's way out of this - they will, of that I'm sure but how!?!

Official Secrets act?  Interfering with a live investigation?  Departmental confidentiality?  Financial restrictions?  Staff shortages?  Annual holidays - see you next September?  Gone for lunch - back in half hour?  Office Manager on maternity leave?  Passed to Human Resources for attention?

ETA:  Charles Dickens was spot on with his office of circumlocution.

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Post by MayMuse 09.05.16 18:22

I agree with you @Verdi & your post makes such great sense... 
However, 
"The UK authorities have seriously compromised their position in this case"



Why would they do this, if it wasn't for some form of "cover-up"? 
What could they potentially gain or not gain ? 


This is what goes around in my head trying to make sense.
I cannot come up with a "reasonable" answer! 


No wonder people are so "baffled" with it all. 
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Post by Joss 10.05.16 4:14

MayMuse wrote:I agree with you @Verdi & your post makes such great sense... 
However, 
"The UK authorities have seriously compromised their position in this case"



Why would they do this, if it wasn't for some form of "cover-up"? 
What could they potentially gain or not gain ? 



This is what goes around in my head trying to make sense.
I cannot come up with a "reasonable" answer! 


No wonder people are so "baffled" with it all. 
BBM, I think the whole cover up is more to do with G.M. and who he is and who is connected with, that is the only reasonable explanation i can think of. They had a "disaster" alright in Portugal, and it was probably an "OMG what are we going to do now, our lives will be ruined" moment that the McC's had in regard to Madeleine on their trip to Portugal and what actually happened to their daughter. They had to get into damage control mode immediately, so lots of frantic calls back to the U.K. and the authorities in the U.K. bailed them out of their dilemma fairly promptly, IMO.

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Post by MayMuse 10.05.16 13:06

That would mean that GM would have some form of a "hold" on the UK government? Like I have said I cannot come up with a "reasonable" answer; what sort of "power" could GM have to bring all of that "support" in at a moments notice?

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Post by dottyaussie 10.05.16 13:24

I having been thinking for a while now that the protection/assistance was brought in for some other person/persons that became involved.

Kate and Gerry had this OMG what are we going to do situation. They ask for help from a 'connection' who was also there. Someone GM has been in some dodgy deals with before. Then the whole thing goes pear shaped. The protection is then brought in for the 'connection' but would also cover GM and KM.
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Post by Joss 10.05.16 15:24

MayMuse wrote:
Joss wrote:
MayMuse wrote:I agree with you @Verdi & your post makes such great sense... 
However, 
"The UK authorities have seriously compromised their position in this case"



Why would they do this, if it wasn't for some form of "cover-up"? 
What could they potentially gain or not gain ? 



This is what goes around in my head trying to make sense.
I cannot come up with a "reasonable" answer! 


No wonder people are so "baffled" with it all. 
BBM, I think the whole cover up is more to do with G.M. and who he is and who is connected with, that is the only reasonable explanation i can think of. They had a "disaster" alright in Portugal, and it was probably an "OMG what are we going to do now, our lives will be ruined" moment that the McC's had in regard to Madeleine on their trip to Portugal and what actually happened to their daughter. They had to get into damage control mode immediately, so lots of frantic calls back to the U.K. and the authorities in the U.K. bailed them out of their dilemma fairly promptly, IMO.
That would mean that GM would have some form of a "hold" on the UK government? Like I have said I cannot come up with a "reasonable" answer; what sort of "power" could GM have to bring all of that "support" in at a moments notice?
COMARE perhaps? Or is GM a Freemason, because there are Masons in Govt. from what i have read, and don't they all cover for each other? The "Brotherhood" and all that.

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Post by Google.Gaspar.Statements 10.05.16 15:26

It was John McCann who said they were "calling in favours".

Favours in return for what?

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Favours from "WHOM"???

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Post by Nina 10.05.16 16:15

Well certainly favours brother John knew were owing

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Post by BarryTheHatchet 10.05.16 23:21

Google.Gaspar.Statements wrote:It was John McCann who said they were "calling in favours".

Favours in return for what?
Or maybe he just wanted to sound like a Big Man.  A trait that seems to run in the McCann clan.
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Post by Estelle 12.05.16 9:45

Joss wrote:
MayMuse wrote:
Joss wrote:
MayMuse wrote:I agree with you @Verdi & your post makes such great sense... 
However, 
"The UK authorities have seriously compromised their position in this case"



Why would they do this, if it wasn't for some form of "cover-up"? 
What could they potentially gain or not gain ? 



This is what goes around in my head trying to make sense.
I cannot come up with a "reasonable" answer! 


No wonder people are so "baffled" with it all. 
BBM, I think the whole cover up is more to do with G.M. and who he is and who is connected with, that is the only reasonable explanation i can think of. They had a "disaster" alright in Portugal, and it was probably an "OMG what are we going to do now, our lives will be ruined" moment that the McC's had in regard to Madeleine on their trip to Portugal and what actually happened to their daughter. They had to get into damage control mode immediately, so lots of frantic calls back to the U.K. and the authorities in the U.K. bailed them out of their dilemma fairly promptly, IMO.
That would mean that GM would have some form of a "hold" on the UK government? Like I have said I cannot come up with a "reasonable" answer; what sort of "power" could GM have to bring all of that "support" in at a moments notice?
COMARE perhaps? Or is GM a Freemason, because there are Masons in Govt. from what i have read, and don't they all cover for each other? The "Brotherhood" and all that.
My hunch is that it is because of COMARE.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsR6qmJeAz0

Please read these links. 

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http://laidbareblog.blogspot.com.au/2015/06/its-not-what-you-know-its-who-or-could.html
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Post by pennylane 12.05.16 10:55

I too believe COMARE / EDF energy are high on the list as to a potential reason for the protection.  It's also interesting to note that Gerry McCann quietly disappeared off the COMARE subcommittee soon after the disappearance!
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Post by Nina 12.05.16 11:29

This is a very interesting thread regarding GM's career path.....................
https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t2165-dr-gerry-mccann-working-at-the-spire-private-hospital-leicestershire

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Post by Tony Bennett 13.05.16 0:21

pennylane wrote:I too believe COMARE / EDF energy are high on the list as to a potential reason for the protection.  It's also interesting to note that Gerry McCann quietly disappeared off the COMARE subcommittee soon after the disappearance!
@ pennylane & @ Estelle

For those thinking that the COMARE connection might be the answer to the riddle, there is of course a very interesting connection to the nuclear energy industry via leading Lancashire Freemason, Edward Smethurst, the McCanns' co-ordinating lawyer from the beginning (and Director of Madeleine's Fund).

Smethurst's first real job, back in the 1990s, was as a junior lawyer in the Legal Department of British Nuclear Fuels (BNFL). He was appointed to that job by Alvin Shuttleworth, an even more senior fellow Freemason in the East Lancashire Provincial Lodge.

Shuttleworth was the Head of BNFL's Legal Department at the time. The two men became engaged in a very successful campaign to deny compensation to many families, especially those with young children, who claimed to have developed leukaemia due to living so long close to the Sellafield nuclear reactor in Cumbria.

But if anything, that points not so much to COMARE and nuclear energy but to the possible role of senior Freemasons working on the Madeleine McCann case. The McCanns' bizarre action, lying prostrate before the GNR police when they arrived at the Ocean Club, was a copybook repetition of an ancient Masonic symbol of severe distress - a direct appeal to any Masonic police in the Portuguese police.

Then again the McCanns' friendship with the pervert Ray Wyre might suggest other influences.

But then we have strayed offtopic  more than a bit            

 

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Post by MayMuse 13.05.16 1:40

Friends of Dr RW. Gosh wasn't aware of that, he was the guy who opened a treatment centre for sex offenders wasn't he?  Some sort of theory or therapy to help them not offend again? Mmmmm how interesting.
New to me that the "thumping of the ground" was a Masonic distress symbol ( or alert?) even more interesting... Need to do more research I think smilie

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