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Parents have warned anyone "caught selling" ex-police chief Gonzalo Amaral's book in the UK would face legal action.

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Post by Lands_end on 21.04.16 14:44

Dumb assed thing to do if you ask me. I remember the publication "Spycatcher" in the 80s was banned from public sale initially in the 80s. It flew off the shelves from all of the airports around the world as a result. I think the same was said of The Stalker Affair. I just remember buying both in Washington DC at the time. People who have no interest in the McCanns might suddenly wake up and ask questions other than what rubbish parents they are to leave children asleep alone in a foreign country whilst they go out on the lash.
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Post by sallypelt on 21.04.16 14:44

@Realist wrote:
@Cmaryholmes wrote:Strange that people think this is a free country.
No country that bans the private ownership of firearms can by definition be classified as being free. There are of course a whole multitude of other reasons why the UK  cannot be classified as a free state, but the aforementioned prevents it from even beginning to qualify.

Why stop at guns? Why not let people throw stones through our windows, and let kids take guns, knives, drugs etc to school?  Thomas Hobbes states in his book Leviathan, that we give up some of our freedoms for protection, because without that protection life would be  ‘solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short’. 

However, I have never been slow in condemning the powers that be, of this country, even going as far as to say that the whole establishment is rotten to the core. However, I am a pragmatist, and whilst I like to think of my glass being half full, rather than half empty, as a realist, when it comes to law,  I understand that we have to see the world for what it is, rather than an idealist's view, which is how we would like it to be.

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Post by lj on 21.04.16 15:55

I hope they will repeat that threat many times. There is no better advertising for a book than forbid it.

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Post by aiyoyo on 21.04.16 16:51

@Doug D wrote:‘…….stressing that “any version” of Truth of the Lie in English that can be found on the Internet is also illegal, as neither he nor Guerra e Paz publishers have given their authorisation to translations.’
  
Amaral may just be making a technical point that the translations on the internet are nothing to do with him, as I am sure he is fully aware, that without these ‘illegal’ translations, which have drawn so many people into the case, he would not have had the volume of support he has had from the UK.

I agree with your there Doug D - that he may just be making a technical point that online version is not official/authorised by author and/or publisher, and not that blog cannot host not-author/publisher translated version.
And you are right too that without blogs and fora he wouldn't have had the volume of support outside of Portugal. In fact blogs and fora indirectly helped his case.

Extract of judgement (translated by Ines)
“Witness statements which show that, already before the publication of the book and documentary in question, there were theories and theses identical to those of GA circulating publicly, mainly on Internet, with the plaintiffs' full knowledge.

Whilst the feelings given as proven in the facts were true, being those of rage, despair, anguish, unrest or worry, namely with regard to what the twins might think, the truth is that these reasons already existed before any intervention on the part of the defendent.

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Post by aiyoyo on 21.04.16 18:18

@MaryB wrote:I wonder if the book can now be published in all other countries except the UK which would be a start. I looked it up on Amazon and even the Italian (I think) and German and other versions weren't available.  It could be published in Australia and NZ in English.    And they'd have to sue in each individual country.  Keeps the legal firms in business I suppose.

Why not? Even in the UK I don't see why not?
They have taken the book to trial and an EU courts of law had determined the book is lawful and isn't libelous.
Question is: can they take same book to trial twice (albeit to a different jurisdiction), without risk of dragging them selves (again) into mud, and without subjecting themselves to cross examination?

They have never truly being tested in a court of law on a true case of libel.
If they are arrogant enough to expose themselves that way, they risk all sorts of witnesses (Dr Amaral, PJ members for example) coming onto the stand testifying for Defending Party against them?
How can they hope to counter witnesses testifying that book contents is but precis of investigators process files (already in the public domain); and which a European courts of law (Portugal in this case, country where crime took place) decree the book does not infringe on them or harm the search.

Coming on the back of the Portugal's Court Judgement, surely said judgement is going to be raised in the court/jurisdiction of their choice if it comes to that. That is if they have a legal valid basis to take it to a different jurisdiction.

Me thinks the threat to sue is just hot air, flexing their mouth muscles, verbal intimidation because they can and because they are known to be malicious. Also their double standard will become focus point - wanting their rights to free speech for themselves but forbidding it to others.

Imagine if Dr Amaral were to take the stand against them and cite the Court's judgement -

(Extracts, taken from Ines Translation, with thanks)

The respective content (of the book) does not offend any of the fundamental rights of the plaintiffs, neither the respect to the right of privacy, according to the terms laid down in articles 80 and 81 of the Civil Code, in the sense that it was they themselves who, voluntarily, limited/waived this right, by having presented themselves on multiple occasions for interviews and social media interventions.

In the same way, with relation to their image and good name, by placing the case in the public domain and making it famous at world-wide level, (they) thereby opened all doors for all opinions, even those that were adverse to them.

or this

“The author of the book “Maddie: The Truth of the Lie”, GA was an investigator in the case of the disappearance of MBM, having been the object of personal and professional attacks by the plaintiffs, in the national and foreign press.



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Post by Praiaaa on 21.04.16 18:26

One of he really annoying things on Amazon is that whenever I have looked for GA's book, it has always suggested others - eg Kate's booook   -err? hardly!

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Post by plebgate on 21.04.16 18:45

Wasn't there talk from Clarrie at one stage about a film being made and wondering who would play the various parts?   I doubt that will be mentioned again.   titter

As for warning anyone who sells Rocky's books with legal action - hmmmm.  IIRC a source made a statement to the press along the lines that if Rocky wrote and published the book then legal action would be taken against him.  Well he did and look where the legal action has got them  titter

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Post by whodunit on 21.04.16 19:10

@suzyjohnson wrote:They just never, ever learn do they?

I'd say they've learned well. They have always gotten away with this kind of arrogant intimidation before. Look what they have done to GA while playing his victim! And nobody in the media ever called them on it!

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Post by MayMuse on 21.04.16 19:28

I tend to agree, they have been expert learners with expert 'teachers'! But perhaps the 'worm' is turning now Wink

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Post by pennylane on 21.04.16 20:05

They've gotten away with a great deal in the UK due to the pink pimp's media connections, however the McCanns constant bullying, belly aching, and begging for handouts has screwed them but good in the court of public opinion!

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Post by Lands_end on 22.04.16 9:38

@plebgate wrote:Wasn't there talk from Clarrie at one stage about a film being made and wondering who would play the various parts?   I doubt that will be mentioned again.   titter



WELL DONE ROCKY A.
Any such film made to reflect what actually happened would have to at some stage involve the contribution of children in a sexual sense. It would be illegal to produce such a film in europe on the grounds of child pornography. What are you going to to, leave out the Gaspers?
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Post by aiyoyo on 22.04.16 11:05

Not just CM who's persistent in keeping missing Madeleine high profile after all these years.
Gerry is master at that game.
He had it in mind from the get go to turn her disappearance into iconic event worthy of anniversary reminders/celebrations involving celebrities and high profile supporters from all over the world coming together to celebrate the event - could be sportings, art or music event.
Who would have thought Gerry would turn himself into an event organiser just one month into her disappearance busying himself organising monthisary or anniversary celebrations to net high profile people/celebrities to raise awareness hmm money for them?

It's rather bizzare behavior for parents of missing child to be planning long term celebration/event reminders on premise she would still be missing in the long term. Very ODD!

You'd think best hope to find a child would be to make frequent regular simple appeals to common householders to keep a look out, to flash out abductor hiding cell. Abductor is hardly likely to be rubbing shoulders with high profile people/elebrities and their hiding place most certainly won't be adjacent to a celebrity mansion.

The only good to beget from high profile supporters/celebrities event celebrations is more money for the Fund, nothing to do with the search. Never come across another set of parents using mingling with celebs method to raise awareness of the missing child money for their 'fighting fund'.
From all appearances they expend more energy organising events, suing people and monitoring internet than they expend energy searching for her.

Tigger's blog is good reminder of Gerry's early days tactics.

http://fytton.blogspot.co.uk/2016/04/the-press-at-work.Daily Express


Sunday June 3, 2007
By Jason Groves

ROCK legend Sir Elton John is being lined up to front a global pop concert, to carry the message of missing Madeleine McCann’s plight to every corner of the earth.

It is hoped the singer will headline a huge series of worldwide events to mark a special Madeleine Day that her distraught parents are planning in the effort to find the vanished four-year-old. Sir Elton’s popular appeal is guaranteed to attract a swarm of other film and music superstars keen to offer support to parents Gerry and Kate McCann.

The couple, having promised not to return home until they are reunited with Madeleine, are now planning a series of visits to European and North African cities, to distribute posters and widen the appeal for information.

Sir Elton has played an emotional DVD of Madeline at his concerts, but now believes a larger effort would do more to raise awareness of her predicament.

Gerry McCann, 38, said: “One of the ideas is maybe getting all the people who have publicly supported us to come together. I don’t just mean from the UK but from different parts of the world. We want a big event to raise awareness that she is still missing."

“We would look at high-profile people who have already pledged support. It will be some sort of focus around an anniversary, to tell people that Madeleine ’s still missing. I think it would be later this year, once media attention has dropped, to bring it back up, hopefully, for a short period.
“It wouldn’t be a one-year anniversary, it will be sooner than that. What we’re doing at the minute has its role but doing that down the line in a few months won’t have anything like the same impact. We might have a sporting event, something arts, something music
.

"We’ve had backing from sporting people up to now. We have had backing from certain musical celebrities as well. We’ve got some other musical contacts that we are exploring, who are happy to offer support.

“We’re not saying it would necessarily be one big concert, it might be that on a certain day they are playing her DVD.


“What we want at the current time is maximum message out there now, about her disappearance but then just events to bring it back up occasionally just to remind people, if she’s not found.”
A month after the sleeping Madeleine was snatched from her bed, Gerry and Kate McCann have betrayed the first signs that their hopes of finding her alive are starting to fade.

The couple confessed that they are haunted by the harrowing thought of her being held captive by a pervert. Still desperately clinging to Madeleine ’s pink Cuddle Cat, 38-year-old Kate said: “We don’t know where she is. We’d like to think she’s still in Portugal, she might still be in Portugal.

“But we know there’s a possibility she’s gone over the border – or several borders. We know there are bad people out there, but we know there are also a lot of sad people. We hope it’s the latter.”
Gerry added: “Of course we believe Madeleine is still alive but you would be incredible if you hadn’t considered the worst scenario, that she’s dead.

“Kate and I discuss it – not a lot, but we talk about hope, and that while there’s some we will not give up. At the minute, there’s loads of hope.”
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Post by Verdi on 22.04.16 12:40

@Lands_end wrote:
@plebgate wrote:Wasn't there talk from Clarrie at one stage about a film being made and wondering who would play the various parts?   I doubt that will be mentioned again.   titter



WELL DONE ROCKY A.
Any such film made to reflect what actually happened would have to at some stage involve the contribution of children in a sexual sense. It would be illegal to produce such a film in europe on the grounds of child pornography. What are you going to to, leave out the Gaspers?
grouphug nod smilie spin Mr splat shark
Leave out this bloke also - the one that was left out of the second round of official police interviews and was left out of the Crimewatch 2013 (produced in tandem with Operation Grange) and who said had further information to divulge during his rogatory interview but didn't think it was the right forum..




Howz about that then !?!

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Post by sar on 22.04.16 13:11

@whatsupdoc wrote:I wonder if it was a source close to the family who watched Fahrenheit 451 on the plane home that has brought this up.

I mentioned this film ages ago.

I really hope GA's book is available in the UK soon.
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Post by jeanmonroe on 22.04.16 15:12

Ka£e and Ge££y McCann have issued a 'legal warning' to anyone 'caught selling' the book.

Madeleine McCann’s parents threaten legal action on people 'caught selling' Gonzalo Amaral's book in UK
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What happens to 'anyone/people' NOT 'caught' selling.......... THE book.?

Looks like OG could get an 'uplift'

38 full time, solely dedicated, elite ex-Maddie Cops, patrolling 24/7, UK book 'store/suppliers' hunting down ruthless, lawless, criminal book 'sellers'.

Maybe an UK wide operation for a retired former Met DCI, to lead.

If it wasn't so serious, it would be 'laughable'!

AIMO, obviously.



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Post by Realist on 22.04.16 15:23

The best way to promote any commodity is to firstly ban it. One only has to look at the Penguin edition of 'Lady Chatterley's lover' back in the early 1960's, or the 1970's soft porn movie 'Deep Throat.' The list is endless.

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Post by Realist on 22.04.16 15:29

@jeanmonroe wrote:

38 full time, solely dedicated, elite ex-Maddie Cops, patrolling 24/7, UK book 'store/suppliers' hunting down ruthless, lawless, criminal book 'sellers'.

Maybe an UK wide operation for a retired former Met DCI, to lead.

If it wasn't so serious, it would be 'laughable'!

AIMO, obviously.


They're probably too busy patrolling the streets, ensuring no-one is smoking in their place of business.

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Post by suzyjohnson on 22.04.16 17:10

Is it just me who thinks that the photographs of and accusations regarding DP above, are running the risk of legal action against this site?

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Post by Verdi on 23.04.16 0:01

@suzyjohnson wrote:Is it just me who thinks that the photographs of and accusations regarding DP above, are running the risk of legal action against this site?
Accusations - what accusations?

It's all in the PJ Files.

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Post by Rogue-a-Tory on 23.04.16 0:19

@aiyoyo wrote:Not just CM who's persistent in keeping missing Madeleine high profile after all these years.
Gerry is master at that game.
He had it in mind from the get go to turn her disappearance into iconic event worthy of anniversary reminders/celebrations involving celebrities and high profile supporters from all over the world coming together to celebrate the event - could be sportings, art or music event.  
Who would have thought Gerry would turn himself into an event organiser just one month into her disappearance busying himself organising monthisary or anniversary celebrations to net high profile people/celebrities to raise awareness hmm money for them?

It's rather bizzare behavior for parents of missing child to be planning long term celebration/event reminders on premise she would still be missing in the long term. Very ODD!

You'd think best hope to find a child would be to make frequent regular simple appeals to common householders to keep a look out, to flash out abductor hiding cell. Abductor is hardly likely to be rubbing shoulders with high profile people/elebrities and their hiding place most certainly won't be adjacent to a celebrity mansion.

The only good to beget from high profile supporters/celebrities event celebrations is more money for the Fund, nothing to do with the search.  Never come across another set of parents using mingling with celebs method to raise awareness of the missing child money for their 'fighting fund'.
From all appearances they expend more energy organising events, suing people and monitoring internet than they expend energy searching for her.

Tigger's blog is good reminder of Gerry's early days tactics.

http://fytton.blogspot.co.uk/2016/04/the-press-at-work.Daily Express


Sunday June 3, 2007
By Jason Groves

ROCK legend Sir Elton John is being lined up to front a global pop concert, to carry the message of missing Madeleine McCann’s plight to every corner of the earth.

It is hoped the singer will headline a huge series of worldwide events to mark a special Madeleine Day that her distraught parents are planning in the effort to find the vanished four-year-old. Sir Elton’s popular appeal is guaranteed to attract a swarm of other film and music superstars keen to offer support to parents Gerry and Kate McCann.

The couple, having promised not to return home until they are reunited with Madeleine, are now planning a series of visits to European and North African cities, to distribute posters and widen the appeal for information.

Sir Elton has played an emotional DVD of Madeline at his concerts, but now believes a larger effort would do more to raise awareness of her predicament.

Gerry McCann, 38, said: “One of the ideas is maybe getting all the people who have publicly supported us to come together. I don’t just mean from the UK but from different parts of the world. We want a big event to raise awareness that she is still missing."

“We would look at high-profile people who have already pledged support. It will be some sort of focus around an anniversary, to tell people that Madeleine ’s still missing. I think it would be later this year, once media attention has dropped, to bring it back up, hopefully, for a short period.
“It wouldn’t be a one-year anniversary, it will be sooner than that. What we’re doing at the minute has its role but doing that down the line in a few months won’t have anything like the same impact. We might have a sporting event, something arts, something music
.

"We’ve had backing from sporting people up to now. We have had backing from certain musical celebrities as well. We’ve got some other musical contacts that we are exploring, who are happy to offer support.

“We’re not saying it would necessarily be one big concert, it might be that on a certain day they are playing her DVD.


“What we want at the current time is maximum message out there now, about her disappearance but then just events to bring it back up occasionally just to remind people, if she’s not found.”
A month after the sleeping Madeleine was snatched from her bed, Gerry and Kate McCann have betrayed the first signs that their hopes of finding her alive are starting to fade.

The couple confessed that they are haunted by the harrowing thought of her being held captive by a pervert. Still desperately clinging to Madeleine ’s pink Cuddle Cat, 38-year-old Kate said: “We don’t know where she is. We’d like to think she’s still in Portugal, she might still be in Portugal.

“But we know there’s a possibility she’s gone over the border – or several borders. We know there are bad people out there, but we know there are also a lot of sad people. We hope it’s the latter.”
Gerry added: “Of course we believe Madeleine is still alive but you would be incredible if you hadn’t considered the worst scenario, that she’s dead.

“Kate and I discuss it – not a lot, but we talk about hope, and that while there’s some we will not give up. At the minute, there’s loads of hope.”
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Gerry, Kate & Elton, now there's a threesome

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Post by maebee on 23.04.16 0:44

@jeanmonroe wrote:Ka£e and Ge££y McCann have issued a 'legal warning' to anyone 'caught selling' the book.

Madeleine McCann’s parents threaten legal action on people 'caught selling' Gonzalo Amaral's book in UK
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The book is flying off the shelves on Facebook. The McScams have created a monster who is now biting them back.





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Post by aiyoyo on 23.04.16 2:24

Clarence in Australia in transcript form (from tigger's blog)

Good grief, Clarrie isn't coherent at all.  
He's like a bull let loose in a bone china shop.....so many little fragmented pieces, and so many little gems that isn't to his employers (Kate & Gerry) advantage.
The more he talks the muddier the picture becomes.
No one listening to him can fail to recognise he's effectively telling them he manages Kate and Gerry - control their scripts - and helps them control and manage what comes out of the media.  

It boils down to Marketing and PR strategy masquerades as search campaign. Nothing in his talk gives an indication the anniversary forward planning involving keeping her parents in the limelight has anything to do with appeal to her abductor.  Priceless !



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Friday, 22 April 2016
CLARENCE IN AUSTRALIA

‘Good morning everybody, I just flew in yesterday so if I sound a little spaced out at times I do apologize. ...I’m going to try and cover 9 years of  communications activity into about  20 - 25 minutes…’

Yesterday, you could at least have changed your shirt by now. All about presentation.  It’s also going to be more like 45 minutes. As for sounding spaced out, that’s fine, we’re used to it.

‘Why did the story catch fire?  Essentially it was an exceptional story in the exceptional multi-platform environment that we now all operate and work in on a daily basis. In effect Madeleine has in fact become the first missing child case to really take on the capacity and power of the internet and of the 24/7  news cycle that we’re all operating in. ... other case ... but Madeleine not only through her own family’s efforts in the first place became the situation that was able to utilise and capitalise that power that we all have sitting in front of us on the laptop, the PC or on our smartphone.

Why did we get the likes of Beckham coming  in to support us very early …’
Madeleine  is here associated with ‘the situation’ and this made it possible to utilize and capitalize the power of the internet. It sounds more like a commodity.
As for Beckham, he was co-opted before the 11th May, when he made his appeal. On the very day that Gerry spent an appreciable time at Portimaṍ police station giving his second statement. As Clarence Mitchell wasn’t on the job until the 23rd of May, he wasn’t involved in the Beckham connection.

‘ .. there is no evidence to suggest she has come to physical harm, mental situation is a different matter..’

That is a most peculiar statement. Absence of evidence isn’t evidence of absence, as Madeleine was reported by her parents as having been abducted by paedophiles, the likelihood of her being harmed is pretty well 100%.  Mental situation would be no better in my opinion.

‘They could have had, if they’d been able to have a professional nanny service which wasn’t available at the time

Now get this right. There was no listening service, which they knew. But there WAS a professional nanny  evening service and it was free. A lot of guests used it. It was there, really. Every evening. Free.
‘…nevertheless there were situations where information that was only in the official law enforcement domain began to emerge. Tal Y Qual is - was -  a free newspaper which was one of the first to make allegations against the parents about their alleged involvement.  ‘
But what he is saying here is that information from the PJ  was leaked. NOT that it was inaccurate information. Tal Y Qual was the first newspaper the McCanns wanted to sue. However, it was  stony broke and  ceased trading not long after those headlines.

‘We had the Portuguese .... differences why on earth would these crazy Brits want to put their children to bed at 7.30 at night, they should be out with us at the table having wine till midnight. That’s just how it is, and a group of doctors and friends wanted to put their children to bed and they tried to eat off the site where it happened, the Holiday Inn, for some evenings early on in the holiday - the children were fractious so they decided to eat on site close to campus that was one of reasons why they were eating in the Tapas bar the night it happened and then they were mounting this checking system as I say. ‘

I have to help you here. There is no Holiday Inn in PdL. There was the Ocean Club. This little story doesn’t go well with the reason given in ‘madeleine’ – that the walk to the Millenium (part of the OC) restaurant, was long and dangerous. Ten minutes or so along a very busy road. According to Kate, the children were fine and so was Madeleine.

‘..you can be issued a parking ticket and be an arguido - it just means you’re a person of interest in the police enquiry. But that very word arguido developed its own narrative around it and confirmed the prejudices of many [..} of course we have forum debate a multiplier of the wonderful world of the blogosphere, we all blog and I’m sure we’re looking at many, many bloggers here today, absolutely fine, blogging is in fact a fantastic innovation but in the wrong hands, with people who have a set of preconceived notions and prejudices it can be just as destructive as sitting in a mainstream newspaper, so we had to deal with that, the constant monitoring of that. There are still two or three anti McCann forums in existence this day but who still rail against the situation, they are all wrong I might add. ‘

Why exactly do you have to deal with blogs and forums if they give their opinion? Why the constant monitoring?  Most blogs don’t have anything like the readership of a mainstream newspaper, so you’d only need to monitor the ones that do have a larger readership than say The Sun.  I don’t know of  a single blog which does have millions of readers.

And of course, at heart this was a coms campaign - it didn’t feel like it but it felt like daily fire-fighting and essentially I had to sit down with Kate and Gerry and say right, we’ve got to define our central theme here, we’ve got to define our com messages, our key messages, you will need to stick with them in the interviews that you’re doing, I will stick to them in the public communications I’m performing …’

Coms is another PR term. So why did you and the Drs. McCann have to define ‘a central  theme’, define your key message, surely when you’ve lost your child it’s quite simple? We want her back and will do anything, anything at all would be good start. As for choosing the word ‘performing’  - interesting.

Jon Corner, godparent of Madeleine, in Liverpool he was already pumping out HD video material of M from previous birthday parties and events, even before the Portuguese authorities had confirmed that she was missing. There was so much material on Madeleine coming into the BBC newsroom, into the hub that brings in all the social media the user generated content as they like to call it, that the BBC actually had to tell the family to stop sending us the stuff - who is this girl, we don’t even know her and it was only later that morning that finally, grudgingly, confirmation came from Portugal that yes the police were looking at this and a British child had gone missing. So again it was the harnessing of the capacity we all have with access to the internet and the ability to download that became a very quick early factor in why the press established traction so quickly.

This is very interesting. Why should the BBC refuse material that came into the newsroom, because it is clear from the above that all this happened before the BBC sent out a news bulletin on the morning of the 4th of May. Yet Jon Corner had been ‘pumping out’ videos and photos. Now what is the point of that?  A few recent photographs would have done the trick. None of the family or friends have ever mentioned in their statements that the first thing they did was to send whatever they had on Madeleine to the BBC.
Adding that the PJ only confirmed ‘grudgingly’ seems to be part of the standard vilification of all things Portuguese which permeates this speech like raisins in a Dundee cake.

‘…and there were lots of thick pieces being written in London, errm which was also extra pressure because these would appear and suddenly news reporters would follow them up and then I would get demands for access to Kate and Gerry which had to be very carefully controlled as I say  at all times ...’

Yes, we can imagine.

‘….and the anniversary campaigns every year of course the media as we well know, runs on rails, doesn’t feel like it at times, but it does if there’s an anniversary in the diary in the forward planning diary thats the story again, it’s two years, three years, next years ten years if we get that far, so each time, rather than a problem for us it was an opportunity  to capitalise on it by creating something new something that would keep the story alive, but again, on investigative terms from our side, not just the soap opera aspect. ‘

That would be the unlikely or in some cases resurrected sightings of choice as some which are mentioned in the previous post?  We’ll get back to those anniversaries later.

‘…was they were just given this arguido status, which in reality meant that  if they wanted to they could have a lawyer present when the interviews were being done. Kate was at one point advised, having done four interviews, where all the questions were answered,  was advised finally, the fifth time, with this status not to answer anymore because you’ve answered it several times already and you don’t need to incriminate yourself, when it became clear that certain officers were beginning to go down that route without any evidence. But errrm so to this day it is held against her online, why didn’t she answer all these questions at that interview, they never realised that she’d already answered them four times in previous interviews without a lawyer present.’

Kate McCann: three not four statements. Mr. Mitchell. Namely: 4/5/2007, 6/9/2007 and the one where she didn’t answer the questions: 7/9/2007. The Arguida interview.  It is most likely that she was advised not to answer any questions for the simple reason that if only Gerry answered his questions, there would be no conflicting statements made, which is quite important. But to take a number of questions from the arguida interview, these had never been asked before, so Kate McCann could never have answered them.  

When asked whom she phoned after the facts, she did not reply. When asked if she phoned “Sky News”, she did not reply. When asked about the danger of phoning the media, alerting them about the abduction, which could have an effect on the abductor, she did not reply.
When asked if it is true that her twin children have difficulty in falling asleep, that they are restless and that it upsets her, she did not reply.

When asked whether or not it is true that sometimes she felt desperate over her children’s behaviour and that it upset her very much, she did not reply.

When asked whether or not it is true that in England she considered the possibility of handing over Madeleine’s guardianship to a relative, she did not reply.

‘…Kate and Gerry didn’t want to sit on their hands in Portugal they felt that while the work we were doing in terms of the public coms was helpful in terms of trying to maintain a track on the story, they wanted to do more. They felt that they should go on a little tour of Europe so they went round all the places that either .... or associated with them from their medical training days, funnily enough, they did some medical training in New Zealand, before Madeleine was born so they didn’t come this far, but we went to Brussels, we went to Berlin, we went to , went to Rabat in Morocco and of course we went to Rome and they began to campaign for the introduction of a child rescue alert, campaign of the European Parliament and we actually got a parliamentary vote supporting that in the first year, which was great and it helped to keep again, was one of the creations they wanted to genuinely achieve but it helped us develop the story. We sought the Prime Minister’s support when David Cameron was leader of the opposition and we met him since and we also met three home secretaries to urge them to help unlock some of the delays that were happening in Portugal. We wanted a full review of the work that has been done in Portugal, it’s been done by the British police and ultimately we got the Sun on board and News International was a campaign partner for that and finally with an open letter on the front page we managed to get the review .
Getting that review wasn’t easy. But thanks to Rebekah Brooks, who isn’t mentioned in dispatches here, they got it. As PR goes, this is nicely phrased to give the impression they met the PM privately. I think that is highly unlikely. Kate McCann was once at 10 Downing Street for a charity function at which a number of other people had been invited. Three home secretaries might include the one who told them that they could offer them a meeting on a consular level, which, as Clarence Mitchell tells us (Vanity Fair interview, publ. February 2008)they refused. It was The Sun and Rebekah who managed to get the review.

‘…got four front page apologies ..Sunday and Daily Express and the Star on Sunday and the Daily Star. The only people who’ve ever had front page simultaneous apologies are the Queen and Elton John  errrm so we’re in illustrious company  […]  As a result, Mr. Desmond and his lawyers were relieved of nearly a million pounds between them for Kate and Gerry and their friends who were variously libelled in various stories and we also had a settlement out of court with the News of the World of their publication of Kate’s diary..’

Unfortunate name dropping here – just before the infamous injunction was all over the internet.
And we have monitoring continuously online of the various fora and fauna, flora rather, online, some of which is none too pleasant. Errm very briefly, I talk through this, we have at the height of it 400 interview bids on the table at one time, nothing like that now of course but that is a sense of the scale of it. The initial anniversaries required substantial roll-out across all platforms, as I said it’s a multi-platform environment we’re operating on, this is not a simple case of just talking to one or two papers, we had to craft interview opportunities..’
From questions:  47.11 : I’ve had to constantly try and craft something out of nothing at times.’  Especially  for the anniversaries it seems.
‘….we have a team of online supporters who help us with the monitoring as well, a number of women who are very concerned about Madeleine in America actually help us with the monitoring..
Why?
‘We have legal action continuing against a particular former Portuguese police officer, errm Mr. Amaral, who wrote a very unpleasant book, alleging in essence that Kate and Gerry know what happened, that they’ve covered up the truth since then, it’s just not true, it’s fundamentally untrue and therefore .... defamatory[…]  there is a certain amount of attendant media around that that needs to be controlled and managed and finally .... next year will be ten years, doesn’t feel like it, but I’m already getting bids, I had CBS and NBC only last week saying can we do a tenth anniversary interview with Kate and Gerry, which rather pre-supposes we won’t still we won’t still know what happened in a year’s time. So one it’s slightly offensive in its own right..’
The underlined passage may refer to the last line of Mr. Mitchell’s powerpoint presentation in Dubai (Clarence Clarified)  ‘Retained agency in Portugal to enhance engagement with opinion formers and PT commentariat.’ Appears not to have worked so well then.

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Re: Parents have warned anyone "caught selling" ex-police chief Gonzalo Amaral's book in the UK would face legal action.

Post by Bishop Brennan on 23.04.16 5:15

@Lands_end wrote:Dumb assed thing to do if you ask me. I remember the publication "Spycatcher" in the 80s was banned from public sale initially in the 80s. It flew off the shelves from all of the airports around the world as a result.

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If he publishes an English version, the airports in Spain (over 12 million UK visitors per year) and Portugal (over 2 million UK visitors per year) provide a perfect and entirely legal sales outlet. French airports / ports (over 8 million UK visitors) would also be a good location.

As you point out, banning a book generally only makes it more interesting and boosts its sales. Good luck to Amaral.

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Post by Get'emGonçalo on 23.04.16 7:00





Natasha's piece is still top of the popularity ratings.NO ONE is fooled any more.
Some pretend,
Some are paid to pretend, 
Some have pretence thrust upon them

but no one actually BELIEVES > > >

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Post by plebgate on 23.04.16 10:43

I am wondering if we will see KG on LKs sofa any time soon warning The Nation that they will be sued if they dare to sell THE BOOK.  

We have yet to hear from Missing People as far as I know about The Judgement.   I wonder why?

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