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Justin Welby, Keep it in the family

Post by sallypelt on 09.04.16 10:37

Archbishop of Canterbury's shock over biological father revelation

The Archbishop of Canterbury has discovered that his real father is Sir Winston Churchill's last private secretary.
The Most Rev Justin Welby, who believed his father was Gavin Welby, said it was "a complete surprise" to find through DNA evidence that his biological father is the late Sir Anthony Montague Browne.
His mother, Lady Williams of Elvel, 86, described the revelation as "an almost unbelievable shock", but added she recalls going to bed with Sir Anthony "fuelled by a large amount of alcohol on both sides".
In a statement, she added: "It appears that the precautions taken at the time didn't work and my wonderful son was conceived as a result of this liaison."
Mr Welby said the discovery was made recently, and in a statement of his own, he said: "In the last month I have discovered that my biological father is not Gavin Welby but, in fact, the late Sir Anthony Montague Browne.
"This comes as a complete surprise."
He added: "This revelation has, of course, been a surprise, but in my life and in our marriage Caroline and I have had far worse.
"I know that I find who I am in Jesus Christ, not in genetics, and my identity in him never changes."
Lady Williams said: "Although, as has already been made public, Gavin Welby and I had a short and, sadly, dysfunctional marriage, neither of us ever doubted that we were the parents of our son Justin, who was born almost nine months to the day after our marriage in America on April 4 1955.
"I still recall our joy at his arrival. So this DNA evidence with which I have now been presented proving that Gavin was not Justin's biological father, so many years after Gavin's death, has come as an almost unbelievable shock."
Mr Welby said his mother Jane Williams and Gavin Welby were both alcoholics, adding that his mother has been in recovery since 1968, and has not touched alcohol for over 48 years.
"I am enormously proud of her," he said.
Gavin Welby died "as a result of the alcohol and smoking" in 1977, when the Archbishop was 21.
Lady Williams, who split from Gavin Welby in 1958, married Baron Williams of Elvel in 1975.
She has described her ex-husband Gavin Welby as "a very strong, possessive character", adding: "At the end of March 1955 he was bullying me to leave my job as personal secretary to the Prime Minister and run away with him and marry him in the United States where his divorce was being finalised.
"At the age of 25, as I was, the pressure became too great and in the end I found myself unable to resist.
"One feature of this pressure is that I was already drinking heavily at times. Although I could then ensure that this did not affect my work, it was later to develop into serious alcoholism during the 1960s which only came to an end when I entered rehab in 1968. I have not drunk alcohol since.
"Although my recollection of events is patchy, I now recognise that during the days leading up to my very sudden marriage, and fuelled by a large amount of alcohol on both sides, I went to bed with Anthony Montague Browne."
She said that after leaving her job and getting married, she did not see Sir Anthony again for a long time.
"After Gavin and I broke up in 1958 Anthony and I met occasionally but although he may have asked how Justin was, there was nothing that gave me any hint that he might have thought he was Justin's father," she said.
In his statement Mr Welby said: "As a result of my parents' addictions my early life was messy, although I had the blessing and gift of a wonderful education, and was cared for deeply by my grandmother, my mother once she was in recovery, and my father (Gavin Welby) as far as he was able."
He said his own experience is "typical of many people", adding: "To find that one's father is other than imagined is not unusual. To be the child of families with great difficulties in relationships, with substance abuse or other matters, is far too normal."
Mr Welby said: "Although there are elements of sadness, and even tragedy in my father's (Gavin Welby's) case, this is a story of redemption and hope from a place of tumultuous difficulty and near despair in several lives."

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Re: Justin Welby, Keep it in the family

Post by Amy Dean on 09.04.16 10:44

I wonder what prompted the DNA test?

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Post by sar on 09.04.16 10:57

most right leaning media keeping cameron's tax affairs off the front pages, decision to spare his blushes this weekend taken last night

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Post by Guest on 09.04.16 11:04

The Daily Telegraph broke the story.  Journalist, Charles Moore, had heard rumours and discussed them with Justin Welby.  He suggested the test.

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Post by Guest on 09.04.16 11:06

@sar wrote:most right leaning media keeping cameron's tax affairs off the front pages, decision to spare his blushes this weekend taken last night
How do you know?

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Re: Justin Welby, Keep it in the family

Post by sar on 09.04.16 11:07

front pages, 

"15 marker match" interesting

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Post by BlueBag on 09.04.16 11:36

@sar wrote:front pages, 

"15 marker match" interesting
Ha!

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Re: Justin Welby, Keep it in the family

Post by BlueBag on 09.04.16 11:37

Ladyinred wrote:
@sar wrote:most right leaning media keeping cameron's tax affairs off the front pages, decision to spare his blushes this weekend taken last night
How do you know?
I thought everyone knew about good days to bury bad news?

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Re: Justin Welby, Keep it in the family

Post by Doug D on 09.04.16 12:15

The Telegraph photo shows the 15 matches and just captures the bottom ‘box line’ on the right hand side, so you can see that is the end.
 
Is there anyone who understands DNA sufficiently to compare what these 15 ‘STR Locus’ results were, giving a 99.9979% probability match, as against the FSS’s 15 matches to MM, (although I'm not sure we ever saw the results classified against a particular test in this way)? 
 


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Post by Richard IV on 09.04.16 12:17

I can`t believe he has just found out, but more likely brought it to light to avoid it being a secret that some journo or blackmailer could use it at some time in the future.

His mother must have known who his Dad was particularly when her son looks like Montague Brown.


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Re: Justin Welby, Keep it in the family

Post by BlueBag on 09.04.16 13:56

Indeed.



He's shocked apparently.

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Post by Cmaryholmes on 10.04.16 14:57

On Saturday morning the BBC devoted quite a large section of their news programme to this item, as if this personal matter were of great significance to the nation. Later on in the same program it was mentioned,very briefly, that a large number, of children have gone missing from Calais, probably taken by traffickers. Compare and contrast the importance given to a highly paid establishment figure with many unknown, uncared for vulnerable children.

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Re: Justin Welby, Keep it in the family

Post by lj on 10.04.16 14:59

So 15 is good for an archbisshop, but not for McCann ???
Interesting!

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Post by willowthewisp on 11.04.16 12:06

@lj wrote:So 15 is good for an archbisshop, but not for McCann ???
Interesting!
Lj, that was a different DNA sample, which was destroyed after a close investigation by John Lowe along with the FSS, that was disbanded by the UK Government shortly after reviews of Detective Policing methods could be improved?

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Post by lj on 12.04.16 15:43

Yes it was sarcasm

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